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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 09 2011 02:07 GMT
#541
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 09 2011 02:09 GMT
#542
sorry Kenpachi, you kind of gave away the fact that you were the veteran earlier in the thread, otherwise we would have hit you.
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darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 09 2011 02:09 GMT
#543
WTF. Dude, i think my clues pointing towards shannn were good. UGH!
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 09 2011 02:10 GMT
#544
On February 09 2011 11:09 GMarshal wrote:
sorry Kenpachi, you kind of gave away the fact that you were the veteran earlier in the thread, otherwise we would have hit you.

hey i thought you guys would rather see it as my moment of brilliance
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 09 2011 02:10 GMT
#545
/dance

Lawl at Kenpachi letting slip that he's a veteran. We would have hit him tonight if it weren't for that.

Day 4 we really didn't need to actually do anything. I'd already managed to put doubt in darmousseh, and town basically imploded on itself. I just sat back and enjoyed the view.

As an aside, what is it with mini mafia games and me getting mafia? That's 3 / 4, or 4 / 5 if you consider the teacher role in battle royale the "mafia" of that game.
whole lies with a half smile
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 09 2011 02:11 GMT
#546
Mistakes in the game
Town mistakes
  • Not reconizing how fast Jackel58 was bussed. Once Mr. Wiggles posted his analysis, Jackel58 was dead. It is as simple as that. The clues clearly pointed to him, so obviously all the mafia would have bussed Jackel58
  • Not talking and replacing analysis with clue hunting. DO NOT rely solely on clue analysis when the only person who actually could do the clue analysis was killed. In addition, what's up with the "no talking at night" thing? All it did was hurt the town horribly since there wasn't enough activity to do actual analysis
  • Not doing analysis. Seriously. No one did analysis.
  • Not killing GMarshal. Seriously. He is obivous Mafia. Clearly he doesn't want to help town. All he does is bandwagon and say "lol I'll follow your clue analysis since I don't want to do it myself"

And many more. I'll post a more detailed analysis later.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 09 2011 02:12 GMT
#547
I seriously spent like an hour going through johnathan swift and gulliver's travels and the clues, but couldn't find the connection.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 09 2011 02:12 GMT
#548
On February 09 2011 11:10 Node wrote:
/dance

Lawl at Kenpachi letting slip that he's a veteran. We would have hit him tonight if it weren't for that.

Day 4 we really didn't need to actually do anything. I'd already managed to put doubt in darmousseh, and town basically imploded on itself. I just sat back and enjoyed the view.

Lol. And Gmarshall thought you guys were going to lose.

As an aside, what is it with mini mafia games and me getting mafia? That's 3 / 4, or 4 / 5 if you consider the teacher role in battle royale the "mafia" of that game.

This game I just picked people that had very different wikipedia articles. For example, Shann and Jackel58 weren't going to be on the same team day 1. Mr Dinosaurs seemed far enough away from everyone else.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-09 02:14:00
February 09 2011 02:13 GMT
#549
On February 09 2011 11:12 darmousseh wrote:
I seriously spent like an hour going through johnathan swift and gulliver's travels and the clues, but couldn't find the connection.

SR says it best
Original Message From SouthRawrea:
Ah you see I made the assumption that you'd make the clues more obscure and metaphorical as you were perhaps having afterthoughts about the Day 1 lynch and how easily that was found.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 09 2011 02:14 GMT
#550
I think the day 2 clues were really weak sorry LSB but that really misled me. Magic set = entertainment?
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 09 2011 02:14 GMT
#551
Day 3 I was convinced that the puzzle would screw us over, when Node was picked I was overjoyed although I really expected town to stick to the plan, which would have made it much harder to win.

And yeah I suck as mafia, I really need to learn how to play well as a red
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
February 09 2011 02:15 GMT
#552
Also, me posting the basic clues against Jackal right after Mr. Wiggles was complete coincidence. I facepalmed a bit when I saw that I'd been beaten to the punch. I figured Jackal was going to be outed pretty much no matter what -- at least that was the correct thing to think.
whole lies with a half smile
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
February 09 2011 02:16 GMT
#553
So fail town...don't even know why you moved away from Node/Dar issue and voted shann...-_- I even called it day 1 (node/gmarshal) lol. GG mafia
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 09 2011 02:16 GMT
#554
Random PM with DrH

Original Message From darmousseh:
Show nested quote +

Hi DrH. First off

Node is mafia and now that I know that it means that you will become #1 suspect after tonight regardless of the outcome.

I don't believe you are mafia because that would be retarded to group yourself with node so I believe the final mafia is hiding.

After going through the read several times, my highest suspicion is gmarshal. There might be a possible connection between heart of darkness and gmarhsl's character johnathan swift, but i haven't had any luck. The closest connection i can find is from a satire swift wrote called "a modest proposal". Also the way gmarshal is playing is very carefully. Read through his posts.

"heart of darkness" "a modest proposal" returns some results, but nothing to connect the clues entirely just yet.

The clues though look like they could be describing a scene from a book.

The only other person kenpachi doesn't seem to fit at all.


There is no connection between jonathan swift and heart of darkness. Do you understand that everything that has happened, that you have done, makes perfect sense if you are mafia?
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 09 2011 02:18 GMT
#555
On February 09 2011 11:14 darmousseh wrote:
I think the day 2 clues were really weak sorry LSB but that really misled me. Magic set = entertainment?

Yeah. The thing was you had to figure out that the 4 pictures corresponded to the four parts of the story. Specifically pointing to one thing.

Sort of like Jackel, I picked on thing and built a theme around it

On February 08 2011 14:08 darmousseh wrote:
In the jackal clues, LSB found a single event from the wikipedia and expanded.
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 09 2011 02:23 GMT
#556
On February 09 2011 11:18 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 11:14 darmousseh wrote:
I think the day 2 clues were really weak sorry LSB but that really misled me. Magic set = entertainment?

Yeah. The thing was you had to figure out that the 4 pictures corresponded to the four parts of the story. Specifically pointing to one thing.

Sort of like Jackel, I picked on thing and built a theme around it

Show nested quote +
On February 08 2011 14:08 darmousseh wrote:
In the jackal clues, LSB found a single event from the wikipedia and expanded.


When I thought about gulliver's travels I saw the lego reference, but I wouldn't describe his hate of the yahoo as xenophobic since yahoos are humans (metaphorically). At that point I gave up since I didn't see anything with music or magic.
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 09 2011 02:25 GMT
#557
On February 09 2011 11:23 darmousseh wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 09 2011 11:18 LSB wrote:
On February 09 2011 11:14 darmousseh wrote:
I think the day 2 clues were really weak sorry LSB but that really misled me. Magic set = entertainment?

Yeah. The thing was you had to figure out that the 4 pictures corresponded to the four parts of the story. Specifically pointing to one thing.

Sort of like Jackel, I picked on thing and built a theme around it

On February 08 2011 14:08 darmousseh wrote:
In the jackal clues, LSB found a single event from the wikipedia and expanded.


When I thought about gulliver's travels I saw the lego reference, but I wouldn't describe his hate of the yahoo as xenophobic since yahoos are humans (metaphorically). At that point I gave up since I didn't see anything with music or magic.

Ahh I see.

Just remember, clue analysis by itself is bad (especially since it was pretty obvious I wasn't gonna give you another freebee). You have to do posting analysis, and it would have been pretty clear that Gmarshal was mafia.
Try reading over his posts. They jump at you as being non-commital and not very helpful right?
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
February 09 2011 02:27 GMT
#558
worst play of my life

wont be playing mafia for a while
RIP Aaliyah
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 09 2011 02:31 GMT
#559
MVP post right here

Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 14:55 Node wrote:
So, seeing as we know that Jackal is red, here's some analysis of what he's done and what that implicates.

On January 29 2011 13:22 Jackal58 wrote:
Pandas eat bamboo. If Q was pissed at pandas he'd just make them all disappear.
I'm not seeing anything but the wall/gravel connection yet. And that's not all that strong.


Light defense of Pandain here.

On January 29 2011 13:25 Jackal58 wrote:
From Wiki:
The thunder god of the Mortal Kombat universe, also known as Lord Raiden, is a protector of Earthrealm. Raiden commands many supernatural abilities such as the ability to teleport, control over lightning, and flight.

A reference to the missing bodies?


Puts some suspicion on Raiden / CubEdIn. As far as I can tell he's the only one to mention this character.

On January 30 2011 05:03 Jackal58 wrote:
Yep. I see points of the story in my wiki link. But I also can see points of the story in everybody's wiki link. Except Pandains. Haven't been able to make any connections to pandas.


Again, light defense of Pandain. But it's not like he lied here, we know that the post didn't apply to pandas at all.

On January 31 2011 07:47 Jackal58 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +

On January 31 2011 06:40 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 30 2011 23:15 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 30 2011 13:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On January 30 2011 10:59 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 30 2011 09:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
##Vote Jackal58

The only connection to Jonathan Swift is that he wrote a satire called "A Modest Proposal" which advocated eating children in poor Ireland to solve the hunger problem. That could be connected to the disappearance of bodies but its verrrrry tentative.

Jackal58 is the strongest clue connection aside from Shann I guess. But Shann could really fit anything and Q doesn't jump out as me as much as Carlos the Jackal does.

I already discounted J. Swift. If you want to include what he wrote Gulliver's Travels has lots of stuff in it that matches up with things in the day post.
I don't know if LSB went that far.
Are links on the wiki pages used to generate clues?

And if you're all going to go with Pirates=Terrorists you might want to describe this "chainsaw defense" to me. I might need it.


A couple things wrong here:

A. Saying "I already discounted J. Swift" as though you are some sort of authority on who can or can't be related via clue. I said there was another tentative connection through that work which is a pretty famous one in actuality. In fact GMarshall even quotes "A Modest Proposal" in his profile.

B. You assume "pirates" is the important aspect of the story. There are always red herrings. Very rarely (if ever) will anyones chosen profile fit all aspects without one being contradictory. Otherwise the game is too easy.

C. The Chainsaw Defense is defending yourself by attacking someone else (typically your accuser). Basically you have to find someone that fits the story better than you do.

I was responding to your perceived implication of my apparent attempt to connect Jonathan Swift to the clues.If you wish to include A Modest Proposal in the list of things a clue could point to feel free. If that's how you guts are doing clue analysis this game is going to be a slam dunk for red.

I'm disappointed. I thought the chainsaw defense was going to be something much more exciting.


i don't understand your response

so we should utilize only your connection of J Swift. and not consider any others? if anything its more likely he'll connect AMP than gullivers travels since that work is quoted in gmarshall's profile. it would be stupid not to consider it


Goddamit I HAVE MADE NO CONNECTION TO SWIFT!!!!!!
Stop putting words in my mouth.


He pretty vehemently denies having put suspicion on Swift / GMarshall.

In the end, he didn't really lead us anywhere, as pretty much anybody can analyze clues. But I'm a bit more suspicious of GMarshall now, as Jackal seemed incredibly determined to make sure that there was no link present between them. I'll also keep an eye out for clues related to Pandain, but there's definitely nothing concrete here.

Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 09 2011 02:56 GMT
#560
I tip my hat to Node. His play was brilliant. GMarshall was exceptional as well. They both bussed me with conviction and with no hard feelings. I think I may have encouraged it a bit. But Node you were brilliant. You played Dr.H like Sherlock's violin.And town pushed the self destruct button.
Life can only kill you once.
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