EPTMini Mafia V: Clues and Puzzles - Page 12
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
you don't contribute anything or weigh in on what we're talking about with any weight and just pop up to question your accuser i'm not 100% sold but if tomorrow there is any connection to you, you're getting lynched | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On February 02 2011 05:20 DoctorHelvetica wrote: your posts are the scummiest besides cubedin you don't contribute anything or weigh in on what we're talking about with any weight and just pop up to question your accuser i'm not 100% sold but if tomorrow there is any connection to you, you're getting lynched I didn't think what's his name, Carlos, was mafia. I thought the clues were too easy but everyone was so gung ho about it and I wasn't 100% sure myself so I didn't say anything. After he flipped red the only people i'm pretty sure aren't mafia are wiggles, shann and node now just cause they were so quick to jump on Jackal. You'll probably somehow tie me to the clues like you tried to do today. I mean, bridge? to a magic set? really? That's not even part of Catcher in the Rye... =p I still don't trust you cause this could all be some big mafia ploy which i wouldn't put past you. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
I think Kenpachi hasn't contributed jack shit. + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2011 13:04 Kenpachi wrote: Sounds like a move by Gaara. If you dont know, Gravel is like sand and where is gaara from!? Sand Village On January 29 2011 13:07 Kenpachi wrote: Plus, The way Gaara uses his powers is to crush his victims with sand BUT THEN,that doesnt match with little bloodshed because its a very messy power. a clue we should look at is the bloodstained note. On January 29 2011 13:08 Kenpachi wrote: if there are random splotches of blood though, im sure Gaara is our prime suspect. Rambles on about Gaara + Show Spoiler + On January 29 2011 13:47 Kenpachi wrote: nope. Im a Shinigami that likes to massacre people for the heck of it. Just responds to people's statements/makes non committal statements of his own. On January 30 2011 09:54 Kenpachi wrote: aw.. am not sure which one to vote for Jackal or darmousseh. Theyre the strongest suspects imo and i just remembered i wear an eyepatch (pirate) LOL On January 30 2011 09:55 Kenpachi wrote: ##vote darmousseh I mentioned the gravel first so ill stick to you Votes darmousseh solely on the gravel thing, giving the shitty reason of "I mentioned it first" + Show Spoiler + On January 31 2011 11:25 Kenpachi wrote: DrH On January 31 2011 11:27 Kenpachi wrote: I would believe DrH is townie this game and he would probably not have martyred Jackal if he was Mafia so yea Medic should protect DrH Tells medic to save you [+ Show Spoiler + QUOTE]On February 01 2011 11:26 Kenpachi wrote: Well did anyone notice "Beethoven" in the openning picture? maybe thats the music sheet o_O On February 01 2011 11:32 Kenpachi wrote: It looks like a movement in Beethoven's conerto No 5. The Main theme in Movement 1 is similar to the first line of the sheet Talks about the music sheet even though LSB said it didn't matter + Show Spoiler + On February 01 2011 11:46 Kenpachi wrote: then in this case, DrH is the only one related to music. I think this is way too obvious and the killer must have listened to the etude or something On February 01 2011 12:03 Kenpachi wrote: That alien that died i think is the Yossarian.. Random stuff/Defends you If TL mods were looking at his posting history he'd be banned with the number of one liners he has. I'm more scummy than that? Get out of here | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
How's that for a stance? | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On February 02 2011 05:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote: chainsaw defense doesn't directly defend himself but focuses on his bad campaign uses the classic "im so sure im green/when i flip green you'll be sorry" which makes wishy washy players doubt classic and obvious Yet, when I did that in the other games, I always turned out town. Go figure. Also, It's not chainsaw defense. I'm defending myself by saying that the way he is tying clues to Raiden is [way] more far-fetched then the ones pointing at DrH. And you can go defend yourself, you can say that they're not related, but if you try to turn it on me, then you better have some very good reasons to do so. Basically, you're turning it on me because I voted for you. That's all. You have no other reason other than "you're playing badly", and I'm playing badly, not because I stretched out on the clues analysis like your buddy, but because there's no possible way I'm town? Really? That's the reasoning? I don't mind it when people defend themselves, but when they do that by trying to turn it around on whoever FoSed them, it's a sign of scum. Sad part is, people probably won't consider you as a target even after I flip green, so you don't have much to fear anyway. I didn't participate at all during day one, I didn't even vote and risked being Mod-killed, even though I was online, because I was simply too busy and forgot I was playing in this. You really think that if I was scum, my partners wouldn't PMed me or something? Anyway, LSB could just like that song OR that movie and thought it was obscure enough to use it as a clue. The fact that it's right there in your face when you google for apocalypse now radiohead, is too much of a coincidence. I'm sorry, it just is. And couple that with the music sheet, house of cards, it points to you more than it points to ANYONE ELSE in this game. And trust me, I looked. And I'm saying that, if the only other option that town found was that they point to motherf*ing RAIDEN, GOD OF THUNDER \o/, then the town deserves to lose. ^_^ And yeah, I'm a radiohead fan, not a "hardcore" one, but I don't see what that has to do with the game. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
But to get any of these you have to go and research their albums which I think is too much of a stretch, I suspect that the clues are drawn straight from the Wikipedia pages. Foe this reason the clues pointing at Cube convince me much more. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On February 02 2011 05:42 chaoser wrote: ##Vote Kenpachi How's that for a stance? I must say that your analysis does say a lot about kenpachi and indirectly about DrH. Your reasoning about Node is logical afterwards but at the time you were laying low and not saying anything makes it seem that you just couldn't defend yourself with. Giving reasons out afterwards is a bit easy to defend yourself with because you can take into the account of the events that happened afterwards. In either case it's still going to make you a strong suspect. You don't talk / go into the discussion on the people that is being discussed here and that's that DrH and Cubed are being suspected of being mafia by eachother. It's like the saying, if it's too good to be true it is. The music sheets and all makes it sound too easy to target me or DrH. Cubed however takes a bit of analyse like Jackal. You say it was too easy to find out that Jackal was mafia, but did you forget that some clues are just there to throw us off. Like gravel in the first post or the bodies. Jackal however had 1 key clue (a group name). The rest is a bit of speculation which supports the clue indirectly. This time we don't really know the key clue yet BUT we do have 2 strong leads which can imply what the key clue is. There are only 2 strong theories so far about the suspects DrH and Cubed. The first one being is games. The day 2 picture = arcade game about pressing the music at the right time like guitar hero (or w/e the name is). - The picture about drop the bomb / apocalypse = about a movie where he thinks he's a god which points at Raiden a character of a video game. - Lego = hobby/game - The poker cards = game - The music sheet = games always have music This tells me the snow image is just a fake clue. That's it about Cubed. For DrH the post can also mean to him because: - Day 2 image = game about music - Drop the bomb or something others have said -> it's tied to Radiohead which is -> tied to Thom Yorke. - Lego -> I have no clue about yet - snow -> the fake clue - Cards -> house of cards another lyric of Radiohead -> Thom Yorke - Music sheet -> music -> Thom Yorke. Don't know which one was the fan lyric. Both have strong ties to the images directly or indirectly through their key clues which is either game or music. You people decide. I haven't decided yet but will be tommorow (when's the deadline for voting?). Also what were the voting of everyone? I'd like to know. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
 so someone needs to step up (including myself). If we can't find better clues I would vote for cubed not only because the clues seem to fit him the most, but because he is acting very awkwardly even if he is an aggressive townie. Something makes me think it's someone else though. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
Node - chaoser Jackal - DrHelvetica - MrWiggles - shannn - Node - darmousseh darmousseh - Kenpachi - Jackal (mafia) Missing votes: - CubedIn - GMarshall - Paindain | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Furthormore originally I thought the youtube video was a good find, but its fan made and the other pictures don't relate to him really at all. Finally, on a non-clue standpoint, Dr. H is one of the few people I feel is really pro town. He voted Jackal early, warded me against trying to get someone else lynched, and overall has been pretty pro town. But actually I think the clues might point to someone else: Q, from Startrek. The first picture, which says "drop the bomb, exterminate them all." Q in several Star trek episodes, notably "Neverending Trial", said that Humanity should be destroyed. Usually he had a request, "Do this or be destroyed" but the basis is the same. The second picture, with aliens, well that's pretty obvious. An obviously non human entity is killed by other humans. Note the strange creature is even holding what appears to be a laser gun. As for the picture of tracks, in the snow. I think this might be related to him in that he could do anything. Such as teleport, turn invisible, and so forth. So when you see tracks but no person, that immediately pops into my mind. The fourth picture is obvious as well. A magic card set, and Q can do things which appear as magic. The fifth picture I believe is the red herring. It was set to cast suspicion most notably upon Dr. H. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On February 02 2011 06:54 Pandain wrote: Honestly this is a bit wifom, but I think the music clue is way too obvious. Especially after LSB got a little "called out" for being a bit too obvious on the Carlos the Jackal thing, then having a music sheet be a clue for a musician? That's too obvious. Furthormore originally I thought the youtube video was a good find, but its fan made and the other pictures don't relate to him really at all. Finally, on a non-clue standpoint, Dr. H is one of the few people I feel is really pro town. He voted Jackal early, warded me against trying to get someone else lynched, and overall has been pretty pro town. But actually I think the clues might point to someone else: Q, from Startrek. The first picture, which says "drop the bomb, exterminate them all." Q in several Star trek episodes, notably "Neverending Trial", said that Humanity should be destroyed. Usually he had a request, "Do this or be destroyed" but the basis is the same. The second picture, with aliens, well that's pretty obvious. An obviously non human entity is killed by other humans. Note the strange creature is even holding what appears to be a laser gun. As for the picture of tracks, in the snow. I think this might be related to him in that he could do anything. Such as teleport, turn invisible, and so forth. So when you see tracks but no person, that immediately pops into my mind. The fourth picture is obvious as well. A magic card set, and Q can do things which appear as magic. The fifth picture I believe is the red herring. It was set to cast suspicion most notably upon Dr. H. I like that you cast suspicion on me. I'm not going to defend myself because there is nothing that I can gain by defending myself. I am Q I fit all clues no matter what. Day 1 clues I can fit them all. Day 2 I can fit them all. Like I said previously. Anything but I mean anything can be related to me. Everyone who is pointing their suspicion towards me is a suspect of being mafia. Why you ask? Simply because if I were to follow your own post I'd have this. On February 02 2011 06:54 Pandain wrote: Honestly this is a bit wifom, but I think the music clue is way too obvious. Especially after LSB got a little "called out" for being a bit too obvious on the Carlos the Jackal thing, then having a music sheet be a clue for a musician? That's too obvious. | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
The idea that Jackal's death was bussed is still very much in my head. The way I see it happening is like this. Wiggles and Node provide really solid analysis of the clues and the mafia, seeing that he'd probably get lynched, jumped first to bus him before any townie could vote for him. When he flipped Red, the first person (Dr. H) could always fall back on "why would I bus my own teammate day 1 when no one else had voted for him yet" even though in reality, he was already on the chopping block, mafia just wanted to seem pro town. With Kenpachi's little remarks about how Dr. H is the most pro-town, people would start to think, yeah, maybe he IS pro town and not mafia at all. If you notice, wiggles, node, and shann already put a lot of pressure on Jackal already in the beginning. Dr. H was too busy talking about pandas and whether they eat people or not and all of a sudden busts out with this: On January 30 2011 09:50 DoctorHelvetica wrote: ##Vote Jackal58 The only connection to Jonathan Swift is that he wrote a satire called "A Modest Proposal" which advocated eating children in poor Ireland to solve the hunger problem. That could be connected to the disappearance of bodies but its verrrrry tentative. Jackal58 is the strongest clue connection aside from Shann I guess. But Shann could really fit anything and Q doesn't jump out as me as much as Carlos the Jackal does. when his previous posts had all been talking about pandas with Pandain and darmousseh | ||
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shannn
Netherlands2891 Posts
On February 02 2011 07:03 chaoser wrote: I'm horrible with clues, especially this one since I have no idea where to start. That's why I'm doing more analysis of posts and why I voted Node even though there weren't anything in the clues that talked about him. And that why I'd prefer Kenpachi to be lynched given my read through of his posts. If i had to pick between Dr.H and Cube though, I'd pick Dr. H just cause of the semi connection he has to Kenpachi. If he flips red, we probably have our last mafia. The idea that Jackal's death was bussed is still very much in my head. The way I see it happening is like this. Wiggles and Node provide really solid analysis of the clues and the mafia, seeing that he'd probably get lynched, jumped first to bus him before any townie could vote for him. When he flipped Red, the first person (Dr. H) could always fall back on "why would I bus my own teammate day 1 when no one else had voted for him yet" even though in reality, he was already on the chopping block, mafia just wanted to seem pro town. With Kenpachi's little remarks about how Dr. H is the most pro-town, people would start to think, yeah, maybe he IS pro town and not mafia at all. If you notice, wiggles, node, and shann already put a lot of pressure on Jackal already in the beginning. Dr. H was too busy talking about pandas and whether they eat people or not and all of a sudden busts out with this: when his previous posts had all been talking about pandas with Pandain and darmousseh Yes I agree with you. If Kenpachi does flip red then DrH is automatically red and Kenpachi hasn't really contributed much of his own analysis which you have pointed out. It's also interesting to note that if you read my above post of the votes that was done then you can see that Kenpachi and Jackal both voted the same guy which is darmousseh (Gaara). It supports your theory but it still doesn't get you off the hook yet. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On February 02 2011 06:25 GMarshal wrote: DoctorHelvetica may have a point with the fact that almost anything can be tied to him if we stray too far away from just the main Wikipedia page related to Thom Yorke, I mean look at it this way if you look at the album In Rainbows you get "15 step" which could easily be related to the tracks in the snow, bodysnatchers which can be tied to the Lego aliens, House of cards, which was already mentioned. A musics score which can obviously be related to a band. But to get any of these you have to go and research their albums which I think is too much of a stretch, I suspect that the clues are drawn straight from the Wikipedia pages. Foe this reason the clues pointing at Cube convince me much more. Fair enough, I agree to what most people say, it's not 100% fool-proof. But to me, at least, it sounds more clear than the ones that are pointing to me, which can be applied to Q just as well (as I posted previously). Also, I didn't do a lot of research at all. I read what people said, I saw the music sheet, and I remembered that House of Cards was a Radiohead song, so I just googled Apocalypse Now (i didn't see the movie, but someone pointed out that the image was from it) and Radiohead, and I got the video. It was literally less than one minute "research", and it's far easier to get at than most people make it seem. And the song name is a song name, not a lyric, that would be indeed very obscure. And if you think about it, it's possible that the clues DO point at radiohead song titles (15 step / House of cards / etc), and that's the connection, while one of them doesn't, like the legos. You can't just dismiss that as a possibility, that's all. And if I had to pick between the top two suspects (me and drh) who should I pick? | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
I won't actually do modkills this game, since I realize that if Mafia is inactive, the clues can just pown them But I am looking for replacements I'mma quote this from LSB cause i'm reading through the thread. Is he implying mafia were inactive? | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On February 02 2011 07:00 shannn wrote: I like that you cast suspicion on me. I'm not going to defend myself because there is nothing that I can gain by defending myself. I am Q I fit all clues no matter what. Day 1 clues I can fit them all. Day 2 I can fit them all. Like I said previously. Anything but I mean anything can be related to me. Everyone who is pointing their suspicion towards me is a suspect of being mafia. Why you ask? Simply because if I were to follow your own post I'd have this. Except it really doesn't. Like last day really didn't fit you at all, besides that they both killed people/were bad. It fit Jackal like a key, and so does this day. And you could defend yourself every day, even if mafia, by saying "Well since my character can do anything, all clues can point towards me." When really they can't. Like the music clue, for instance. | ||
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darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
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