EPTannul votes fishball
Coag votes fishball
Fish votes RoL
ghrur votes RoL
SR votes coag
jcarl votes coag
RoL votes aidnai
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barundar
Aidnai
deconduo
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
annul votes fishball Coag votes fishball Fish votes RoL ghrur votes RoL SR votes coag jcarl votes coag RoL votes aidnai Not voted: barundar Aidnai deconduo pandain kingjames01 Node SouthRawrea Glasse/Aeres | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
I’ve read this + Show Spoiler + On November 30 2010 13:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: To discuss the other roles in the OP I don't think there was an additional lover. I think this acted as a conversion role. "born anew" implies a change in roles from one alignment to other, and since there is no third party and I doubt a mafia got converted by a townie, I think it means one of the mafia just recruited a townie against us. The way the town/mafia ratio is set up it doesn't give us initial start counts or anything, just tells us how much mafia there are in the game, assuming the conversion can't fail then it would be three regardless. I imagine the mafia can choose as to when they do it and the person they choose retains their power this would give the mafia incentive to WAIT on the conversation, but then it might be OP, so there might only be a certain amount of time they can wait for the conversion, but its mere speculation. ... So to summarize, I think there is a mafia conversion power in the lover, judging by how it was used. A Vigi variant in the hooded man, and a possession power in the spirit role. What's everyones thoughts on beggar? Some sort of information role? I’m going to vote for Aidnai for now, his post does seem to paddle through the same sentences a few times on a closer look. #vote Aidnai PS: Pandain time to post :-) | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
I was also kind thinking that the conversion process might even be taking someone and turning them into a traitor variation where the mafia knows who but just like the normal lover role they are linked? This would give the mafia more power in a majority lynch game at least until one of the two lovers dies. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
I think why everyone is saying about the ghost is probably true. It make sense that a power will be activated upon death. Thing is, would this be town or mafia power? I'm hoping what someone said about the hooded figure being a mason is true, that would be interesting, and the clues make sense. I'm not sure if the clues were meant to lead us to mason, and instead it could just be Mafia KP. No idea what to make of the lover born anew. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On November 30 2010 20:39 Barundar wrote: So if I understand this lover/sibling mechanic right, we have a group of players, not necessarily mafia, who will always try to swing votes away from each others? But they do not know if each others are town or mafia? Will make it harder to interpret vote swings >_< I’ve read this + Show Spoiler + On November 30 2010 13:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: To discuss the other roles in the OP I don't think there was an additional lover. I think this acted as a conversion role. "born anew" implies a change in roles from one alignment to other, and since there is no third party and I doubt a mafia got converted by a townie, I think it means one of the mafia just recruited a townie against us. The way the town/mafia ratio is set up it doesn't give us initial start counts or anything, just tells us how much mafia there are in the game, assuming the conversion can't fail then it would be three regardless. I imagine the mafia can choose as to when they do it and the person they choose retains their power this would give the mafia incentive to WAIT on the conversation, but then it might be OP, so there might only be a certain amount of time they can wait for the conversion, but its mere speculation. ... So to summarize, I think there is a mafia conversion power in the lover, judging by how it was used. A Vigi variant in the hooded man, and a possession power in the spirit role. What's everyones thoughts on beggar? Some sort of information role? I’m going to vote for Aidnai for now, his post does seem to paddle through the same sentences a few times on a closer look. #vote Aidnai PS: Pandain time to post :-) About the "love" part, my guess is that it implies some sort of symbiosis with the other "lover"; perhaps this manifests itself in the form of being able to PM each other? The Doc did say that certain roles would be able to engage in private messaging. As for beggar, I'm at a loss as well. You're probably correct in thinking it's an information role, but I wouldn't be able to guess much more than that. RoL's analysis of Aidnai seems convincing enough. For now, my vote will stay on him, but as usual, this vote is still tentative. ##Vote Aidnai | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
annul votes fishball Coag votes fishball RoL votes aidnai barun votes aidnai aeres votes aidnai Fish votes RoL ghrur votes RoL SR votes coag jcarl votes coag Not voted: Aidnai pandain kingjames01 Node SouthRawrea deconduo Still needs 5 more votes to lynch anyone, so no danger for a while. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
This is just a theory based on how the lovers role works in general games. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
The role on mafia wiki that most resembles a beggar: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Hobo | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On November 30 2010 23:43 Barundar wrote: Who do you plan on voting for then? The role on mafia wiki that most resembles a beggar: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=Hobo Not too sure yet, still a lot of stuff going around and I don't want to place a vote just yet. The 'Town Drunk' is also another name for a roleblocker, he visits someone during the night and gets drunk with them, preventing them from taking any night actions. Its another possibility. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On December 01 2010 01:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies Now this is interesting. The "two men" part clearly means there are two players that this refers to. Having a "third eye" is often meant to imply some sort of extrasensory perception, a method of seeing past what normal people are capable of. In the case of Mafia, I would think the Third Eye allows the player to see the true alignment of a player. One Eye lies, one tells the truth. Perhaps this means that one of the Third Eyes is sane, and the other is insane. Of course, I doubt that in a game as crazy as the Doc wants it to be, there would be two roles that are identical in function and opposite in results. These "Third Eye" people must have some sort of difference in their roles besides the obvious "liar / truth-teller" dichotomy. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 01 2010 01:27 Aeres wrote: Now this is interesting. The "two men" part clearly means there are two players that this refers to. Having a "third eye" is often meant to imply some sort of extrasensory perception, a method of seeing past what normal people are capable of. In the case of Mafia, I would think the Third Eye allows the player to see the true alignment of a player. One Eye lies, one tells the truth. Perhaps this means that one of the Third Eyes is sane, and the other is insane. Of course, I doubt that in a game as crazy as the Doc wants it to be, there would be two roles that are identical in function and opposite in results. These "Third Eye" people must have some sort of difference in their roles besides the obvious "liar / truth-teller" dichotomy. Not necessarily. They could be exactly the same role, and one of them is sane, while the other is insane, but neither of them knows which one they are. This will cause a lot of mind grapes. | ||
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Archas
United States6531 Posts
On December 01 2010 01:35 jcarlsoniv wrote: Not necessarily. They could be exactly the same role, and one of them is sane, while the other is insane, but neither of them knows which one they are. This will cause a lot of mind grapes. I'm aware that that possibly exists, but from what I know of the Doc's intentions here, he wants this whole GAME to be a mindfuck in terms of roles. Insane Mafia didn't have exact repeats of roles, and the Doc himself compared that game's intent to this one, so I don't feel like he'd dull the variety by inserting two near-identical roles when he could have two roles that are similar, but have subtle differences aside from the insanity factor. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On December 01 2010 01:40 Aeres wrote: I'm aware that that possibly exists, but from what I know of the Doc's intentions here, he wants this whole GAME to be a mindfuck in terms of roles. Insane Mafia didn't have exact repeats of roles, and the Doc himself compared that game's intent to this one, so I don't feel like he'd dull the variety by inserting two near-identical roles when he could have two roles that are similar, but have subtle differences aside from the insanity factor. I dont think so. The idea of two detectives, one sane one insane seems pretty reasonable in this sort of setup. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
On Aidnai, this might be mafia slip-ups: On November 30 2010 06:53 aidnai wrote: How are we supposed to muster up 8 votes when there's three mafia? Seems a little crazy... On November 30 2010 06:59 aidnai wrote: Oh jeez nevermind, I seem a little crazy... I thought there was only 9 townies (12 total)... yet another reading comprehension fail. Anyway, gl everyone, hope I don't get killed night one again -_- Notice how he make himself more guilty than the mistake entitles, and drop a “I’m town” hint. | ||
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Somebody fell in love. Somebody has been born anew with the power of love. (2, maybe 3) A child is playing in the yard. (4) A man with a black hood stands in an alley. The man in the black hood found his axe. (5) Someone just got a pharmacology degree from Liquidia University. Another student got his Pharmocology degree. (6,7) A man begs in the street. (8) Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies (9,10) 10 role clues given so far. That leaves 2 more if only town clues are given, 5 more otherwise. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love. Another student got his Pharmocology degree. was posted at the same time and could be related. Say 1 person "fell in love", and decided to fall in love with person 2, who was our Pharmocology student. By choosing person 2, person love gained his power of pharmocology. | ||
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jcarlsoniv
United States27922 Posts
On December 01 2010 02:34 Barundar wrote: You forget that was posted at the same time and could be related. Say 1 person "fell in love", and decided to fall in love with person 2, who was our Pharmocology student. By choosing person 2, person love gained his power of pharmocology. That's possible. I'm not sure he would give someone two roles though? Not sure. | ||
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