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SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 30 2010 02:06 GMT
#101
Black hood guy-> Mason?
Axe -> George Washington?
George Washington = Mason
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
November 30 2010 02:42 GMT
#102
On November 30 2010 10:17 deconduo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 09:59 ghrur wrote:
Why would we want to do that? Dr. H is basically giving us unlimited time to get a GOOD lynch in, and you want to rush it? Why? I think we can hit a mafia day 1 giving our low player pool if we really try. Cmon Decond, I KNOW you have mafia sniping skills. ^_^


I was mostly kidding <3


Seems more like we switched alignments. >_>
darkness overpowering
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 30 2010 03:21 GMT
#103
On November 30 2010 08:24 aidnai wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 07:53 ghrur wrote:
Op, so PMs aren't allowed. Darn.
WELL... that kinda throws a wrench in my plans.

Were your plans for this game similar to your plans for salem mafia?

Ok, seriously though, we have so little information (no role list, no mayor, no roleclaiming)...Obviously number 1 priority is scumhunting, not some crazy town circle or whatever. But what do we talk about? There has to be some kind of discussion going to reveal scuminess. If everyone is just spamming, we'll never get anywhere.

Personally, I think roleclaiming and forming a town circle should not be our focus right now. A town circle may form in a few days around a DT once some checks have been performed (assuming we have a DT). But to debate about it day 1 is silly, and if someone tries to take over the town and put themselves at the center of the town circle etc day 1, I'd be VERY suspicious of them.

So, anyone else have thoughts on discussion points for day one?

##vote aidnai
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 30 2010 03:26 GMT
#104
On November 30 2010 09:54 kingjames01 wrote:
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On November 30 2010 09:43 Node wrote:
The spirit "waiting to come out" implies a role that needs to be "activated". Usually the requirement for that is death, but you never know. Maybe a "revenge vigi" of sorts?

Person(s) falling in love seems to refer to this role, for those who haven't seen it before.

Annul posted the most likely role for the kid in the yard.

The man with the black hood could be just about anything. Probably not a very benign role, though.

The pharmacology implies doctor, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a twist on it. What form that would take, I don't know.


Ah, I agree with your interpretation of the spirit role. Someone probably has an ability that is activated upon death.

I'm going to have to disagree about the pharmacology role. Pharmacology degrees are not awarded to doctors but pharmacists. DoctorHelvetica works in health and would not make that mistake. Again, I think that means there is a Pharmacist role. What that means, I don't know.

To expand on this, I would think the pharmacist role probably is a nerfed medic. Something like give a pill one night, saves them the next night? So it actually would require a higher level of skill to use.
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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2010 03:37 GMT
#105
i must have missed it but where did drh say no PMs?
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
November 30 2010 03:38 GMT
#106
On November 30 2010 12:37 annul wrote:
i must have missed it but where did drh say no PMs?


"8. There are to be NO private messages this game. However Private messaging, including IMs / IRC, is allowed between Mafia and some special roles. "
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kingjames01
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada1603 Posts
November 30 2010 03:41 GMT
#107
On November 30 2010 12:26 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 09:54 kingjames01 wrote:
On November 30 2010 09:43 Node wrote:
The spirit "waiting to come out" implies a role that needs to be "activated". Usually the requirement for that is death, but you never know. Maybe a "revenge vigi" of sorts?

Person(s) falling in love seems to refer to this role, for those who haven't seen it before.

Annul posted the most likely role for the kid in the yard.

The man with the black hood could be just about anything. Probably not a very benign role, though.

The pharmacology implies doctor, but I wouldn't be surprised if there was a twist on it. What form that would take, I don't know.


Ah, I agree with your interpretation of the spirit role. Someone probably has an ability that is activated upon death.

I'm going to have to disagree about the pharmacology role. Pharmacology degrees are not awarded to doctors but pharmacists. DoctorHelvetica works in health and would not make that mistake. Again, I think that means there is a Pharmacist role. What that means, I don't know.

To expand on this, I would think the pharmacist role probably is a nerfed medic. Something like give a pill one night, saves them the next night? So it actually would require a higher level of skill to use.


Yeah, that would be a really hard role to play correctly. It definitely would make sense though if it existed in an experimental game. In essence, it is the opposite of the Poisoner role which kills the following night.

It's been confirmed that we actually have 2 of these roles. Since we only have 15 players, we probably do not have a true medic/doctor in addition to our 2 Pharmacists.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 30 2010 03:45 GMT
#108
yeah, at first I was thinking the spirit role mentioned was going to be a die then come back to life (possibly confirmed) but if it was confirmed that would make two 100% town roles if the description that someone linked of the child was correct. In such a small game that seems really OP, especially if there is medics.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 30 2010 03:46 GMT
#109
Oh and if I am correct on the pharmacist role it means we can't block any of the kills tonight, so whoever is the most active will die, or anyone who is confirmed. So anyone important should avoid claiming, because if I am correct it means you will die and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.
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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
November 30 2010 03:49 GMT
#110
Hmm. Fishball really didn't respond like a blue at all to coagulation's advances. And considering coagulation's typical behavior, he doesn't seem like a red. -_- though I'm all for removing clutter, it'd be great if we take out a red in day 1.

##Vote Fishball
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 30 2010 03:54 GMT
#111
My vote on Aidnai wasn't a joke, I think that post and the rest of his that I read are scum tells, calling for activity, posting a fluff "aright guys lets be productive/analyze, etc" post, calling for me to not be inactive like 5 minutes into the game without being active.

He is legitimately a good choice right now and I want us to kill Aidnai.
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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2010 03:55 GMT
#112
btw it is illegal to claim on day 1 ROL
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 30 2010 04:07 GMT
#113
ebwop: As far as fishball goes, its two posts and hes a difficult guy to read but I will figure him about before day 3 as long as hes active

To discuss the other roles in the OP I don't think there was an additional lover.
On November 30 2010 09:43 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Another student got his Pharmocology degree.
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love.



I think this acted as a conversion role. "born anew" implies a change in roles from one alignment to other, and since there is no third party and I doubt a mafia got converted by a townie, I think it means one of the mafia just recruited a townie against us. The way the town/mafia ratio is set up it doesn't give us initial start counts or anything, just tells us how much mafia there are in the game, assuming the conversion can't fail then it would be three regardless. I imagine the mafia can choose as to when they do it and the person they choose retains their power this would give the mafia incentive to WAIT on the conversation, but then it might be OP, so there might only be a certain amount of time they can wait for the conversion, but its mere speculation.

the hooded man I am torn on, its either a special power mafia role (the later references to it make it sound more sinister) or its a DT, maybe a DT with more than 1 KP. The description of it sounds like either the grim reaper or an executioner. After the latest comment about it I would lean towards executioner.

The reason I am conflicted about the alignment related to that role is because with that spirit role it sounds an awful lot like Amber's role from Insane Mafia, although I think since its a Spirit maybe he can choose to take over another players body? IE, kill that player and gain their role whatever it may be. If the game is as crazy as DrH suggested I think that would be a solid guess because if the child assumption is correct I can't see it being any sort of confirmed role in such a small game.

So to summarize, I think there is a mafia conversion power in the lover, judging by how it was used. A Vigi variant in the hooded man, and a possession power in the spirit role.
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 30 2010 04:07 GMT
#114
On November 30 2010 12:55 annul wrote:
btw it is illegal to claim on day 1 ROL

Where did I role claim?
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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2010 04:10 GMT
#115
On November 30 2010 12:46 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Oh and if I am correct on the pharmacist role it means we can't block any of the kills tonight, so whoever is the most active will die, or anyone who is confirmed. So anyone important should avoid claiming, because if I am correct it means you will die and there is nothing that can be done to stop it.


only time "nothing can be done" is today (if you are right on the role that is), and we cant roleclaim today
Fishball
Profile Joined December 2005
Canada4788 Posts
November 30 2010 04:59 GMT
#116
On November 30 2010 12:49 orgolove wrote:
Hmm. Fishball really didn't respond like a blue at all to coagulation's advances. And considering coagulation's typical behavior, he doesn't seem like a red. -_- though I'm all for removing clutter, it'd be great if we take out a red in day 1.

##Vote Fishball


Hell, the game just started.

What exactly do you want me to do? And what do you mean "I didn't respond like a blue at all"? There is a specific way on how a blue responds? Well I surely didn't know that!

For an immediate Day 1 lynch, I could really care less who wants to vote for who. But if one were to ask me for "advice", I would say I'm more inclined to look at the inactives, especially in such a small game like this.

As for why I voted for RoL; Well, I feel like it. If I were a Day Vig, I would have used my kill on him right now. Why? Because I feel like it... So if you follow your senses and vote for me, I won't have a problem with that at all.
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annul
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2841 Posts
November 30 2010 05:38 GMT
#117
On November 30 2010 13:59 Fishball wrote:
Hell, the game just started.

{...}

But if one were to ask me for "advice", I would say I'm more inclined to look at the inactives,


##vote fishball
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
November 30 2010 07:00 GMT
#118
On November 30 2010 13:59 Fishball wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 30 2010 12:49 orgolove wrote:
Hmm. Fishball really didn't respond like a blue at all to coagulation's advances. And considering coagulation's typical behavior, he doesn't seem like a red. -_- though I'm all for removing clutter, it'd be great if we take out a red in day 1.

##Vote Fishball


Hell, the game just started.

What exactly do you want me to do? And what do you mean "I didn't respond like a blue at all"? There is a specific way on how a blue responds? Well I surely didn't know that!

For an immediate Day 1 lynch, I could really care less who wants to vote for who. But if one were to ask me for "advice", I would say I'm more inclined to look at the inactives, especially in such a small game like this.

As for why I voted for RoL; Well, I feel like it. If I were a Day Vig, I would have used my kill on him right now. Why? Because I feel like it... So if you follow your senses and vote for me, I won't have a problem with that at all.

I don't even know what to say about that. But if you would like, I would bet my life that Aidnai is mafia and if I am wrong we can kill me tomorrow. Sound fair? I'd make the bet!
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Barundar
Profile Joined May 2010
Denmark1582 Posts
November 30 2010 07:36 GMT
#119
Really happy this is starting! Was traveling home yesterday, and I got class now, so should be able to contribute in a few hours when I've read up during class...
Bartundar
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
November 30 2010 07:38 GMT
#120
thats a pretty big gamble there ROL
town will be pretty fucked if he turns out town and then we lynch you for no reason other then "oops" and you flip town.

just keep that in mind.. its generally never a good idea to allow any kind town lynching a townie being an acceptable strategy..

otherwise im all for flipping him if you got some scumtell your basing this off of.

I really feel that if doch would make anyone on the signup list mafia it would be 100% fishball
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