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On December 01 2010 06:23 annul wrote:
see that is the problem, you do not need to "unnerve" anyone into anything. this is a competitive game yes, but use your competition to win people over on argumentation, not insults, etc. all i am saying is that if you agree with that, finally, then good, we can continue without problems
but i do find it very funny, the above post of yours. timely, indeed.
at least you dont condone it IRL, that is good.
PS not trying to "get the last word" - only commend you for your sudden change of heart in playstyle
Are you kidding me... STOP addressing me. We'll hash this out in the Sengoku post-game.
I've told you before, your continued spam just makes it easier for the mafia to stay hidden. If you really care about winning for the Town, then do some actual scum-hunting rather than distracting us from what matters.
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On December 01 2010 06:23 annul wrote:
there is a big difference between "that argument is bad because X" and "you make bad arguments"
big big difference
Yes, there is. I use the first statement, you use the second. That's the difference.
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so back on topic...
On December 01 2010 05:38 Aeres wrote:...On what?
probably on the big wall of text about ghur being scum pandain posted right above orgos last post..
sorry pandain orgo is apparently too busy "defaulting his vote to coag" to listen to scumhunting.
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you definitely do not make the first type of statement; or at least you didnt, to me, in sengoku..
but if you dont want to be addressed, then sure, ill stop addressing you. i will grant you the cessation of attack that you did not grant me. <3
so okay, back to this game, did nobody catch what i said about orgolove? maybe hes making shit up about this vote redirection role, to put more peeps onto fishball and off of ROL (or maybe even coag, if he's bussing)?
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Fishball, I would like to know what you think about lynching Aidnai today. Please explain your reasoning in great detail. I would also like to Ghrur to give his reasoning one way or the other against Aidnai.
Also Orgolove, don't spread our votes like that. The two biggest candidates so far are Aidnai and Fishball. I would like this day to end today at some point so we can continue moving forward. I think the Ghrur analysis is decent but I think Aidnai is better for a kill right now.
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On December 01 2010 06:36 annul wrote:
you definitely do not make the first type of statement; or at least you didnt, to me, in sengoku..
but if you dont want to be addressed, then sure, ill stop addressing you. i will grant you the cessation of attack that you did not grant me. <3
so okay, back to this game, did nobody catch what i said about orgolove? maybe hes making shit up about this vote redirection role, to put more peeps onto fishball and off of ROL (or maybe even coag, if he's bussing)?
Annul, this is something that should be taken into account later on. We can say HEY I DONT THINK THAT IS LIKELY all we want, time will prove if that role really exists, its an unnecessary risk on his part to claim something stupid to justify changing votes when on day 1 hes not going to be heavily criticized for it. The biggest thing I would say against his vote change is WHY would he go for Coagulation without giving good reasons. We have better suspects and spreading votes in a majority lynch game is retarded and anti town. I would encourage him to put more thought into who he is voting for.
As for any of the votes on me, I am really not worried about dying during the day, I am sure I will die at night though so I figure talk my ass off now while I can. I think we just put the mafia in a hard spot and I will elaborate after I get a response from fishball/ghrur like I requested above, then I will explain my reasoning and my remaining suspicions for the mafia team.
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On December 01 2010 05:44 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 04:48 orgolove wrote:
So. I was given express permission to post this (i.e. it's not a roleclaim) by DrH.
I was given PM notification that my first vote was invalidated and I have to switch my vote.
There are 2 possibilities:
1. There's some hidden mechanic in the game that nullifies a random vote each day (not likely)
2. or there is a blue/red role that can invalidate a vote
I'm leaning towards #2. Given the power of such a role, and given that it was done to reduce the number of votes in the co-leader to be lynched, I think it is likely that it is a mafia role.
So for now, I'm forced to switch, so I'm changing my vote to the default:
##Vote: Coagulation
But I consider Fishball to be highly, highly suspect.
*Note: I know that reds can now use this information as an excuse to change their votes later on. But if we can catch 1 mafia in day 1, I think it is all worth it. Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 04:50 orgolove wrote:
My name is listed as the first name to vote, and the first name for Fishball. But I was actually the second vote for Fishball.
Thus, consider this: the vote-nullifier looked at this list, and took off the first name that voted for Fishball - again pointing to his possibility as a red. Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 05:06 orgolove wrote:
Note that I'm not arguing for a policy lynch on coagulation here - I think it's pretty clear that he's a blue.
Instead of focusing on him, I'd concentrate more on the existence of a vote-switcher and Fishball. I think it is very interesting that you are suggesting that a Vote Nullifier role exists in this game. DrH has not hinted at such a role yet. However, there are still possibly 2 roles that have not been described. This could be a ruse to change your vote and cast suspicion. Under that assumption, you seem to be encouraging the lynch on Fishball without having to 'get your hands dirty.' ##Vote orgolove
On December 01 2010 06:36 annul wrote:
so okay, back to this game, did nobody catch what i said about orgolove? maybe hes making shit up about this vote redirection role, to put more peeps onto fishball and off of ROL (or maybe even coag, if he's bussing)?
What the hell? I said it first... If you can't come up with your own analyses, then just quote them. I know you read it because you addressed part of it. Do you have to constantly try to prove to everyone that you're scum?
This is seriously going to be the last game I play with you.
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On December 01 2010 06:44 Pandain wrote:
Why aidnai?
I will say just trust me on this, but there has been a couple of posts showing how he has done a few major scum tells, in the post that I voted for him with I actually quote the best example of it, but literally all of his posts are textbook. I have also made a bet with fishball, if I am wrong about Aidnai you guys can kill me tomorrow, that is how confident I am.
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to be fair i had no idea you were even signed up for this game, i would have went /out had i known. i dont want to play with you either. it seems that all you are going to do is fight me in every single game we play. no matter what. you were wrong about me in sengoku and so it makes me think that your sole intention is to attack me regardless, whatever color you think i am or whatever color i actually am.
so believe me the sentiment is mirrored from my perspective as well.
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On December 01 2010 06:47 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 05:44 kingjames01 wrote:On December 01 2010 04:48 orgolove wrote:
So. I was given express permission to post this (i.e. it's not a roleclaim) by DrH.
I was given PM notification that my first vote was invalidated and I have to switch my vote.
There are 2 possibilities:
1. There's some hidden mechanic in the game that nullifies a random vote each day (not likely)
2. or there is a blue/red role that can invalidate a vote
I'm leaning towards #2. Given the power of such a role, and given that it was done to reduce the number of votes in the co-leader to be lynched, I think it is likely that it is a mafia role.
So for now, I'm forced to switch, so I'm changing my vote to the default:
##Vote: Coagulation
But I consider Fishball to be highly, highly suspect.
*Note: I know that reds can now use this information as an excuse to change their votes later on. But if we can catch 1 mafia in day 1, I think it is all worth it. On December 01 2010 04:50 orgolove wrote:
My name is listed as the first name to vote, and the first name for Fishball. But I was actually the second vote for Fishball.
Thus, consider this: the vote-nullifier looked at this list, and took off the first name that voted for Fishball - again pointing to his possibility as a red. On December 01 2010 05:06 orgolove wrote:
Note that I'm not arguing for a policy lynch on coagulation here - I think it's pretty clear that he's a blue.
Instead of focusing on him, I'd concentrate more on the existence of a vote-switcher and Fishball. I think it is very interesting that you are suggesting that a Vote Nullifier role exists in this game. DrH has not hinted at such a role yet. However, there are still possibly 2 roles that have not been described. This could be a ruse to change your vote and cast suspicion. Under that assumption, you seem to be encouraging the lynch on Fishball without having to 'get your hands dirty.' ##Vote orgolove Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 06:36 annul wrote:
so okay, back to this game, did nobody catch what i said about orgolove? maybe hes making shit up about this vote redirection role, to put more peeps onto fishball and off of ROL (or maybe even coag, if he's bussing)? What the hell? I said it first... If you can't come up with your own analyses, then just quote them. I know you read it because you addressed part of it. Do you have to constantly try to prove to everyone that you're scum? This is seriously going to be the last game I play with you.
That last part is unnecessary, you were warned in other games to stop being a condescending douche, now please follow suit and play the fucking game. I am tired of this whiny sensitive bitching bullshit. Everyone stop crying play the game and nut the fuck up.
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On December 01 2010 06:50 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:I will say just trust me on this, but there has been a couple of posts showing how he has done a few major scum tells, in the post that I voted for him with I actually quote the best example of it, but literally all of his posts are textbook. I have also made a bet with fishball, if I am wrong about Aidnai you guys can kill me tomorrow, that is how confident I am.
Um... I don't see how any of his posts are even slightly scummy. Please point this out to me, I guess I'm slow.
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Vote tally so far:
Aidnai - 3
Voters: Aeres, Barundar, RebirthOfLegend
Coagulation - 3
Voters: jcarlsoniv, orgolove, SouthRawrea
Fishball - 2
Voters: annul, Coagulation
RebirthOfLegend - 2
Voters: Fishball, ghrur
ghrur - 1
Voters: Pandain
orgolove - 1
Voters: kingjames27
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C'mon, guys, our votes are way too divided right now. We need to find some solid candidates instead of voting purely based on hearsay and OMGUS.
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WTF Aidnai has THREE VOTES?
Aeres tell me why aidni is scum, point out posts. Cause ghrur is far a better canidate than aidnai, as well as coag who is getting lynched because "he's the worst player hurr durr"
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Pandain do I really need to repost or can you scroll up?
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On December 01 2010 07:06 Barundar wrote:
Pandain do I really need to repost or can you scroll up?
You shouldn't jump into conversations and pretend to contribute when you haven't really added anything to this game so far.
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On December 01 2010 02:17 Barundar wrote:I’m starting to think that the man in the black hood is mafia aligned. It doesn’t make sense in a chaotic mafia to have mafia without any special powers. We have clues on 5 players in the initial post, and the relationship between mafia and town is 1 to 5. This leads me to believe we got 4 town clues and 1 mafia clue straight off the bat, and my guess is the hooded figure is the bad one. The fact he is pulling out an axe makes me scared to write this :-(. On Aidnai, this might be mafia slip-ups: Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 06:53 aidnai wrote:On November 30 2010 06:36 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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The day will end when majority lynch has been reached. For the day to end a single person must have 8 votes on them to be lynched. The day begins now. How are we supposed to muster up 8 votes when there's three mafia? Seems a little crazy... Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 06:59 aidnai wrote:
Oh jeez nevermind, I seem a little crazy... I thought there was only 9 townies (12 total)... yet another reading comprehension fail.
Anyway, gl everyone, hope I don't get killed night one again -_- Notice how he make himself more guilty than the mistake entitles, and drop a “I’m town” hint.
This? This is why your lynching him? Because he made a mistake? Son Person whos probably older than me if I had a penny for every time someone made a mistake in mafia I'd be a rich man. Heck, I misread my role pm one time. (that was funny.)
You're reading at stuff that isn't there, and saying he hopes he doesn't get killed again is not scummy at all.
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No please do split up your votes 
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On December 01 2010 06:52 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 06:47 kingjames01 wrote:
This is seriously going to be the last game I play with you.
That last part is unnecessary, you were warned in other games to stop being a condescending douche, now please follow suit and play the fucking game. I am tired of this whiny sensitive bitching bullshit. Everyone stop crying play the game and nut the fuck up.
Oh, RoL. I was NEVER warned in ANY game and I eagerly await your rebuttal. What you're thinking of is the post-game discussion of Insane. The comment came from a player who made a really bad move and took offense to generic advice that was not even addressed to him. The ensuing discussion revealed that my opinion was a valid one.
I respect that you've been around, but I will not back down just because of your posting history. So if you're going to try to mediate, keep your insults to yourself.
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