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On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? =) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?
Ouch. T_T That hurts.
On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)?
Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play.
You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch.
What else can you say? [/QUOTE]
I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago.
Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game?
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On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? =) Are you going to spam to get to 1000?
Ouch. T_T That hurts.
Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play. You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch. What else can you say?
I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago.
Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game?
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On December 05 2010 14:15 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:EBWODP: On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? =) Are you going to spam to get to 1000? Ouch. T_T That hurts. On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play. You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch. What else can you say? I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago. Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game? The problem is that we can't just lynch based on who's inactive anymore. We need to find 3 mafia and you've just named 3 players. Including yourself, that's 4. I went through your posts and I think I found your hint. Why should we focus our search on someone else and not you?
Idk, do the analysis. I want to see you scumhunt KJ. If you really believe you should focus your search on me, then do it. It'll go nowhere, especially if you've found my clue, but if you're scum, all the better right?
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On December 05 2010 15:06 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 14:57 ghrur wrote:On December 05 2010 14:15 kingjames01 wrote:On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:EBWODP: On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? =) Are you going to spam to get to 1000? Ouch. T_T That hurts. On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play. You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch. What else can you say? I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago. Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game? The problem is that we can't just lynch based on who's inactive anymore. We need to find 3 mafia and you've just named 3 players. Including yourself, that's 4. I went through your posts and I think I found your hint. Why should we focus our search on someone else and not you? Idk, do the analysis. I want to see you scumhunt KJ. If you really believe you should focus your search on me, then do it. It'll go nowhere, especially if you've found my clue, but if you're scum, all the better right? No, I don't think you understand what I mean. Think about it from everyone else's perspective. Based on what I think you are, I can't reveal you. But if I were to just conclude that we shouldn't lynch you and everyone should take my word for it, we'll be pegged as mafia. You need to defend yourself to the town, and I cannot do it for you. However, if you promise to help me survive the Night then I'll support you during the Day. If you can assure me that we will mutually support each other then I will reveal everything I know.
I'm not asking you to defend me. I'll defend myself if people try to lynch me. However, until a formal accusation is made, or people start bandwagoning me, I feel no need to formally defend myself.
I can't promise to help you survive. All I can promise is that I won't try and push you during the day. For the night, you're going to have to post all that you know and convince our pharmacists that you're valuable enough to be saved. In that matter, I have no say.
I will support you if you reveal everything you know, but only if that happens.
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On December 05 2010 13:15 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? I said kinda, and why wouldn't a mafia go after him so hard? He had arguably a decent amount of scummy posts day one, and then you apologized crazily. You laughed he used a role wrongly. I dunno....seems cockily teasing to me. You been rather jocular all game actually, besides your posts with him. Your last posts have been pretty spammy, and not to mention you haven't done anything since posting analysis on Decoundo. Dr. H didn't post the final vote counts in the last day post, which is kinda messing with me. Aidnai stopped posting too. Jcarl needs to explain why lynching him would be bad for the town. If its bad for the town, then we don't want to do it, but how would not telling us why benefit the mafia. Don't have much done on Annul, his arguments with KJ scrambled my brains a little, but it was completely irrelevant. And why couldn't Aeres vote fishball either. Peculiar.
I apologized crazily? Idk, I didn't realize that. I was just saying, yeah, he's town after him roleclaiming. I hope I don't come off as cocky...  And I'm acting peculiar because it helps to have different styles for different games right? :p
Aidnai stopping posting seems suspicious to me. That being said, his last post wasn't particularly useful. He also promised an analysis which, as KJ pointed out, never appeared.
As for annul...
+ Show Spoiler [annul] +On November 30 2010 12:55 annul wrote:
btw it is illegal to claim on day 1 ROL Nothing On November 30 2010 13:10 annul wrote:
only time "nothing can be done" is today (if you are right on the role that is), and we cant roleclaim today Nothing On November 30 2010 14:38 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 13:59 Fishball wrote:
Hell, the game just started.
{...}
But if one were to ask me for "advice", I would say I'm more inclined to look at the inactives,
##vote fishball Weakly supported vote which follows the bandwagon started by Orgolove On December 01 2010 06:04 annul wrote:
uh
orgolove could just be changing his vote as a way to get more people onto fishball and off of ROL... i mean without a "vote changer" role existing. Seems like WIFOM speculation to me. On December 01 2010 06:04 annul wrote:
and lol KJ, good to see you and i finally agree that hostile attacks have no place in mafia games Dig at KJ. No point. Drags us off course. Gets a player distracted for what reason? None. On December 01 2010 06:23 annul wrote:
see that is the problem, you do not need to "unnerve" anyone into anything. this is a competitive game yes, but use your competition to win people over on argumentation, not insults, etc. all i am saying is that if you agree with that, finally, then good, we can continue without problems
but i do find it very funny, the above post of yours. timely, indeed.
at least you dont condone it IRL, that is good.
PS not trying to "get the last word" - only commend you for your sudden change of heart in playstyle Continuing with the bickering. No point except to disrupt. Disruption seems good for mafia... On December 01 2010 06:23 annul wrote:
there is a big difference between "that argument is bad because X" and "you make bad arguments"
big big difference Continuing still. On December 01 2010 06:36 annul wrote:
you definitely do not make the first type of statement; or at least you didnt, to me, in sengoku..
but if you dont want to be addressed, then sure, ill stop addressing you. i will grant you the cessation of attack that you did not grant me. <3
so okay, back to this game, did nobody catch what i said about orgolove? maybe hes making shit up about this vote redirection role, to put more peeps onto fishball and off of ROL (or maybe even coag, if he's bussing)? Continuing still, but says "back to the game", but watch this. On December 01 2010 06:51 annul wrote:
to be fair i had no idea you were even signed up for this game, i would have went /out had i known. i dont want to play with you either. it seems that all you are going to do is fight me in every single game we play. no matter what. you were wrong about me in sengoku and so it makes me think that your sole intention is to attack me regardless, whatever color you think i am or whatever color i actually am.
so believe me the sentiment is mirrored from my perspective as well. NOT BACK TO THE GAME. :D Continued bickering, yay? On December 01 2010 09:01 annul wrote:
so explain to me why we have gotten off of fishball?
look at the post i made when i voted him, when i quoted his post and showed the two blatant contradictory ideas. then look at orgolove. he either 1. is bussing fishball or 2. someone actually used that power and wants to save fishball, and the only logical use of this is a mafia use Or that could be wifom and it's really just he was forced to change his vote because of randomness as was shown later. On December 01 2010 11:39 annul wrote:
i think these clues mean that there is a role called "the hammer" that ends the day with the vote no matter what Correcto! On December 01 2010 11:40 annul wrote:
preacher probably refers to a priest role (bodyguard) Wrongo! On December 01 2010 15:29 annul wrote:
wow
drh says that he has hinted to all roles
where is the vote redirection role hint?
vote fishball, then vote orgolove tomorrow The system is corrupt? On December 02 2010 01:22 annul wrote:
opz already has a "vote" on aidnai (through ROL) so you technically need to unvote first.
also, there are 14 votes up and the day isnt over, so whoever hasnt voted must be "the hammer"
its glasse. glasse is the hammer. which is lol because of what happened with him and his profile clues in haunted ;D but glasse is teh hammer.
also i have changed my mind about orgolove. the corruption clue (if he is being honest) was written in all 4 colors, making me think it is a random effect and does not signal town or mafia or blue or miller. makes me think it is a random effect that happens. so orgolove for now is off my hook. i still like the fishball kill though for reasons iterated previously Nothing really. =/ On December 02 2010 02:37 annul wrote:
hahahaha, AND the OMGUS with no other explanation whatsoever.
seriously how is there a better target than this Pushing fishball, still informally. No concrete analysis yet. On December 02 2010 03:01 annul wrote:
yeah, [almost] every single action anyone takes in these games has the implicit "i wanted to" attached to it. Again, nothing. On December 02 2010 05:45 annul wrote:the fishball issue is as follows: Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 14:38 annul wrote:On November 30 2010 13:59 Fishball wrote:
Hell, the game just started.
{...}
But if one were to ask me for "advice", I would say I'm more inclined to look at the inactives,
##vote fishball then, his OMGUS. then, the potential for mafia-controlled vote redirection. then, his lack of contribution whatsoever, even despite him saying "hell the game just started" yeah its been going on for a while - what has he done? a bunch of nothing Reiterating his arguments without anything new... what's the point. If we've read it once, we've probably read it 100 times. Really, this just seems to me the scum idea of "don't give away any information while seeming like you're helping" type deal. On December 02 2010 05:46 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 05:43 Coagulation wrote:
unlynchables that have activated powers upon lynch wat Nothing. On December 03 2010 02:58 annul wrote:
"the hammer almost struck back"
so that means the axe strikes early. (Note: After Decond's role claim) Yes, yes it does. Especially since Decond claimed he was the Axe(executioner) who strikes early. Nothing On December 03 2010 06:56 annul wrote:
hey now im allowed to make garbage posts all the same as you do <3 Spam (ironic coming from me now KJ? <3)  On December 04 2010 04:54 annul wrote:
um
fishball claimed spirit. says he will get more powers when he dies.
why arent we insta-voting him? He never claimed he gets more powers when he dies. He claimed his power ACTIVATES when he dies. Big difference there. Kinda like saying your analysis has bad logic, and you have bad logic. :p And that seems more like a townie role than a mafia role when you think super saint like on mafia wiki. =/ On December 04 2010 04:55 annul wrote:
three options:
1. he is mafia. good lynch
2. he is spirit. good lynch.
3. he is neither. not that good a lynch, but what are the odds he is #3?
##vote fishball Adding nothing new. Same reasons as before. Although, i don't get why he says lynching a spirit is a good lynch... Let's see here: Lynching a spirit means we don't lynch a mafia. Lynching a spirit means the spirit gets limited votes instead of unlimited. Lynching a spirit means we go to night again without much information on who's mafia, and we let mafia retain their KPs... not that good actually unless you're mafia. On December 04 2010 04:59 annul wrote:
he CLAIMED spirit. would a non-mafia, non-spirit claim spirit? Fishball sucks for making this a possible mistake. On December 04 2010 05:05 annul wrote:
mafia would be ridiiiiiiculously overpowered if they got the spirit role. our only way to kill mafia is by the town lynch (and maybe a vig role). Wait, what? Are you basically saying Fishball's a townie yet we should still lynch him? I don't get it. On December 04 2010 05:05 annul wrote:
coagulation
was there a hint to a traitor role? Nothing. On December 04 2010 05:09 annul wrote:
... how is that a hint to a traitor role? sounds like confirmation of the second lover to me. Nothing. On December 04 2010 05:11 annul wrote:
i missed it then.
whatever, who would you rather us kill? opz? Throwing out random names? Cool. On December 04 2010 05:24 annul wrote:
orgolove, you assume that it is a mafia role that nullifies the vote.
i think it is a part of his ability. since he wants to be town lynched, it is a detriment to his ability to make it harder for him to be town lynched. remember the clue says "the SYSTEM is corrupt" in all 4 colors. makes me think its a neutral occurrence. or maybe, even, the first to get to 4 gets a vote taken off of them (as happened last time). Basis for this? Like, hint that matches? On December 04 2010 05:13 annul wrote:
oh. well in that case, how would KILLING him make him town -> mafia? seems like he is already mafia then under that analysis Nothing. On December 04 2010 05:14 annul wrote:
but okay then.
##unvote fishball
##vote ~opz~ Whoa. Wishi-washiness. Wtf happened to your endless days of pushing for Fishball. Because of 3 posts by Coag and Barundar? Really? On December 04 2010 05:35 annul wrote:
##unvote ~opz~
##vote fishball
i still think hes town and would benefit from lynch. Again, what? Changing your votes. And also saying townies benefit from being lynched? No. You had a role description from Jcarl. You don't benefit from being lynched even as spirit; you just get limited posts. I don't understand where you get this lynching townie=beneficial idea. Not to mention, it seems like a ploy to get town to mis-lynch for a day. On December 04 2010 05:36 annul wrote:
Fishball:
Orgolove, Kingjames01, jcarlsoniv barundar coagulation annul
opz:
aeres
is this correct? Easy way to be useful as mafia. On December 04 2010 06:31 annul wrote:
KJ sure knows how to be pro at insults amirite Distraction to try and get town off track again? Idk if he's trolling at this point, but why would townies want to troll? Scum move imo. On December 04 2010 07:39 annul wrote:
is fish at 7 or 8?
i.e., is it over, or is there still a chance to debate this lynch? Uhhh, pointless? On December 04 2010 09:19 annul wrote:
well its over now, he has 8, anything happening now wont count
now that its confirmed, i think fishball played ridiculously well. i think he survives this lynch with more power. i think he has been lying that he wont stay alive with new powers, so that the mafia keeps voting him. Pointless post again. On December 04 2010 10:28 annul wrote:
no. deconduo could only VOTE if he was the hammer.
it is possible for him to not vote in a day cycle. Nothing. On December 04 2010 16:10 annul wrote:
drh = caller? Nothing. On December 05 2010 03:35 annul wrote:
maybe there is a night vig somewhere Nothing. guesses based on nothing. On December 05 2010 04:30 annul wrote:
well we dont know who the night vig hit and who the mafia hit
so maybe the mafia hit the tracker and the night vig took out coag or something
though maybe the mafia controls the night vig But... this only explains 2 deaths out of 3... are you trying to lead us off track? I don't get it. Overall, Annul's posts have been really unhelpful. =/ It just doesn't feel like the same annul from Sengoku. It's hard to tell between apathetic townie right now, or mafia, but the note about "he's a townie, it'd help him if we lynch him" seems EXTREMELY scummy.
See if you agree.
For aeres, I feel aside from a few posts here, he hasn't been scummy:
+ Show Spoiler [aeres] +About the "love" part, my guess is that it implies some sort of symbiosis with the other "lover"; perhaps this manifests itself in the form of being able to PM each other? The Doc did say that certain roles would be able to engage in private messaging.
As for beggar, I'm at a loss as well. You're probably correct in thinking it's an information role, but I wouldn't be able to guess much more than that.
RoL's analysis of Aidnai seems convincing enough. For now, my vote will stay on him, but as usual, this vote is still tentative.
##Vote Aidnai To be honest, my vote on Aidnai was because I was following the lead of a more experienced player (RoL) who seemed to know what he was talking about. Since I've been really busy for the last few hours, I hadn't gotten around to changing my vote, despite that being on my itinerary. I'll unvote for now, but I don't have any solid clues on who to vote for now, so for the time being, I shall abstain.
##Unvote Aidnai
God, it's gonna take a while to end the day. Votes Aidnai only because of following RoL/more experienced player. C'mon, guys, our votes are way too divided right now. We need to find some solid candidates instead of voting purely based on hearsay and OMGUS. He says we should scumhunt instead of going off OMGUS, yet he never does it himself. For lack of a better plan, I'm gonna vote for SouthRawrea to make him talk at the very least, and maybe move the day forward like jcarlsoniv said.
##Vote SouthRawrea
I just wish all this passive agreement didn't make me look like a sheep, because I sure do feel like one right now... =(
Not really too scummy, but votes SouthRawrea for no reason really, and ends up securing the bandwagon for Decond's first axe. After reading Orgolove's post, I'm inclined to agree that Fishball is definitely acting unusually. Perhaps it's not conclusive evidence yet, but this inconsistency with Jcarlsoniv and Fishball is of too much import to ignore. That, and Fishball's not acting in the interest of town, which is a red flag right there. I'm going to vote for him, until/unless future events cause me to rethink this.
##Vote Fishball
I apologize for lurking and not contributing as often as I should, but I've been sick for the past day, so my mind's a bit cloudy. Once I get better, I'll stop the bandwagoning and actually do shit for once. = / Once again votes with other's analyses. Doesn't really do his own on people. ##Vote ~OpZ~ for reasons stated by Walrus-Shopper. Once again votes because of someone else's reasoning. ....Fuck.
Fucking fuck. And an overreaction on the day post. Although, this is explainable because that was really screwed up. >_< And since then, he hasn't posted... which is strangely weird. I feel like he has scummy posts, but I also feel like his other posts are helping to contribute by analyzing the hints. This is different than annul who basically posted nothing, and accused using the same info again and again. Aeres seems more like unsure about who he wants to vote/unsure of his ideas instead of trying to hide information.
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On December 05 2010 16:23 annul wrote:
let me ask you something ghrur
just an immediate response, but for shit like, for example,
"no. deconduo could only VOTE if he was the hammer.
it is possible for him to not vote in a day cycle."
which i said in clarification of someone else making a false assumption... this is a "nothing" post to you. so, tell me, ghrur, what IS a "something" post? if you call this a nothing post then how can i even attempt to respond to your claim that 95% of my shit are "nothing posts"?
I'm sorry, it just seemed that it was pretty obvious that this was the way it worked since it's what decond stated in his roleclaim. People don't need to clarify what can easily be read. Something posts would be things that one logically infers. =/ It's like, my question about PMs is completely nothing, but if I inferred that somebody probably had a role to PM, it'd be something. But suppose that is a something post. Does that make the rest of your posts into something as well? Does that make your posts like,
and where is your analysis of KJ? he had a "pointless argument" all the same with me. why are you not calling him out on the bullshit too?
I'm quite sure Doc and RoL called both of you out on it, but I wasn't calling you out on your argument. I was calling you out on the fact that you started it. There was no need to bring something from Sengoku into this game, especially when it would only cause disruption and anger between you two, unless you were mafia or you really couldn't keep your grudges away. I disagree with both. =/
And do you really want my analysis? You don't seem to trust it one bit. Why make me spam more, and post more nothing when clearly you'd dismiss it in a moment?
maybe you and he are both mafia. in fact that makes sense, since he is now conveniently "going to tell you everything" and how you are now going to "protect him"... hmmmmm
I'm waiting for him to tell me everything, but I can't protect anyone. I'd only support him if he comes up with good analyses. Otherwise, why should I? Hell, I'd push for his lynch after that promise.
+ Show Spoiler +On December 05 2010 16:32 annul wrote:nothing[/quote[ Mistake Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 07:53 ghrur wrote:Op, so PMs aren't allowed. Darn. WELL... that kinda throws a wrench in my plans. nothing Correcting my own mistake. It's nothing, but technically, it's clarification. You agree with my standard then? Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 08:39 ghrur wrote:
I'd suggest we just pressure people through voting and discuss our opinions on who looks suspicious or not. Also, having a plan for town to organize around is NEVER bad. I mean, if we can get a town circle, all the better right? Let's see, so far those who haven't posted:
Barundar
RoL
Jcarlsoniv
annul
Pandain (wut?)
Well, might as well be bold.
##Vote RebirthofLegend posting the inactives like 2 hours after game begins, as if it means something, and then a random vote out of nowhere with no logic or reason? k Uhhh, there's a reason. I stated it right there. Is there a reason, and is there logic behind it? Let's see. Reason = I wanna make "inactives" talk. Logic = "These people haven't posted yet" So yes, there is logic and reason, but the premise was wrong. I posted this much too early, and you're correct on that, but to say there's no logic and reason behind it is wrong. It's just it was flawed because of a flawed foundation. Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 09:59 ghrur wrote:Why would we want to do that? Dr. H is basically giving us unlimited time to get a GOOD lynch in, and you want to rush it? Why? I think we can hit a mafia day 1 giving our low player pool if we really try.  Cmon Decond, I KNOW you have mafia sniping skills. ^_^ just as much "nothing" as my posts he claims are nothing posts Yeah, I've agreed to this before haven't I? Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 11:42 ghrur wrote:On November 30 2010 10:17 deconduo wrote:On November 30 2010 09:59 ghrur wrote:Why would we want to do that? Dr. H is basically giving us unlimited time to get a GOOD lynch in, and you want to rush it? Why? I think we can hit a mafia day 1 giving our low player pool if we really try. Cmon Decond, I KNOW you have mafia sniping skills. ^_^ I was mostly kidding <3 Seems more like we switched alignments. >_> nothing post Actually, that was hoping to get a response out of Decond because I still suspected him at the time. Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 10:10 ghrur wrote:
After that roleclaim and that defense, I'll admit I was wrong. Decond seems town to me now. :p. I mean, no town would admit to misusing that role so quickly. Peace? lol. admission of wrongness, cool, better than being called out for it later i guess Or... I'd actually admit my mistakes unlike some people? I admit when I'm wrong, and I admit when I post nothing. *GASP* THAT MUST BE SO MAFIA LIKE! Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 08:08 ghrur wrote:
Hey look! RoL and I agree despite me never even reading his analyses. ^_^
Well, I guess we have a lynch candidate.
##Vote Aidnai nothing post, bandwagon follower Actually, if you read the post of mine above this, with Decond's post and everything, I give my ideas behind why this is. I don't quote any of his posts, but I say what I felt when I read through his posts. Sorry if I don't keep quotes with my notes, but it is what it is (day9 ^_^). Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 10:55 ghrur wrote:Oh good god. I come back and there's green blood everywhere. Ugh, green is such a nasty color. We need more red blood... + Show Spoiler +or purple blood. ^_^ Purple so sexy yo, it's like gretorp and haunter But damnit man, Decond never even got to post his analysis. >_< nothing post Yes, yes it was. Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 13:51 ghrur wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2010 09:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 08:12 ghrur wrote:On December 03 2010 03:52 kingjames01 wrote:On December 03 2010 03:15 Barundar wrote:As for town night actions we can discuss other targets, but how can they be of use if we don’t know if my scan can be trusted? Fun fact: My ability gives me a read on both the target and people visiting him. So if I target someone who gets sniped I get a read on the mafia, and no matter the returned alignment will be able to point him out. Good reason to scan likely targets. As for surviving, I place my faith in a pharmacology student Okay, this is a good ability for us to build our scum-hunt around. I'm voicing my support for the plan whereby Barundar checks someone of his choice, (keep your target a secret for now Barundar) and announces his findings in the morning. Of course our conversation is public so mafia will try their best to ruin it. What we need is for a Pharmacist to prescribe some medicine to Barundar or whatever it is that you do to keep him safe until the morning. Coagulation is our other DT. We know that one of our DTs tells the truth, the other one lies. Since Coagulation's results are PM'd out randomly, I suspect that he is the one who will have trustworthy results. I'd like for him to be safe as well. There is no real way of ensuring this or coordinating the actions of the Pharmacists though without them claiming. Obviously, Pharmacists should not claim until they absolutely have to. Everyone else, as enlightening as it is, stop with the role-claiming unless you are forced to do so or have a very good reason. Each time someone claims, we have one less place to hide our Pharmacists. I think you guys are relying way to much on pharmacists. So we know they exist, but do we know how many? 1? Maybe 2? I mean, it's a 15 person game, it isn't that big. If Mafia has 2 KPs and aims for both Coag and Barundar, I'm thinking we just lost 1 DT night one. The thing is... why did you guys claim night 1? >_< And Fishball, making Decond would be WAYYYYY to OP to mafia. There are already 3 members, if they only need 4 to lynch every other day, then they can basically screw town over every other day. No way Decond's mafia if his roleclaim is true. Anyway, I feel like we should be scum hunting, but i'm not so sure about my suspects anymore. I say there's no way Decond's mafia. jcarlsoniv, idk, he seems uncharacteristically held back for someone who basically can't die, but on the other hand, there's no way mafia would volunteer to lynch themselves (WIFOM not included in the argument). I'm just keeping a watch on Aidnai right now. =/ I have another thought; I guess I'll wait until morning to make an accusation if anything. :p If you have doubts about my alignment, then your worries will be satisfied assuming everything works out with the checks/lynch. When day rolls around, I ask everyone to hold off voting for me until we have our information from our DT. If something bad happens with the checks, I don't want to be killed off for no reason. Nah, I have hardly any doubts on you right now. Your defense was adequate, your volunteering for lynch is uncharacteristic of mafia, I'm just stupid. xP admission of wrongness, see above Yes, yes it is. See response above. Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 08:12 ghrur wrote:On December 03 2010 03:52 kingjames01 wrote:On December 03 2010 03:15 Barundar wrote:As for town night actions we can discuss other targets, but how can they be of use if we don’t know if my scan can be trusted? Fun fact: My ability gives me a read on both the target and people visiting him. So if I target someone who gets sniped I get a read on the mafia, and no matter the returned alignment will be able to point him out. Good reason to scan likely targets. As for surviving, I place my faith in a pharmacology student Okay, this is a good ability for us to build our scum-hunt around. I'm voicing my support for the plan whereby Barundar checks someone of his choice, (keep your target a secret for now Barundar) and announces his findings in the morning. Of course our conversation is public so mafia will try their best to ruin it. What we need is for a Pharmacist to prescribe some medicine to Barundar or whatever it is that you do to keep him safe until the morning. Coagulation is our other DT. We know that one of our DTs tells the truth, the other one lies. Since Coagulation's results are PM'd out randomly, I suspect that he is the one who will have trustworthy results. I'd like for him to be safe as well. There is no real way of ensuring this or coordinating the actions of the Pharmacists though without them claiming. Obviously, Pharmacists should not claim until they absolutely have to. Everyone else, as enlightening as it is, stop with the role-claiming unless you are forced to do so or have a very good reason. Each time someone claims, we have one less place to hide our Pharmacists. I think you guys are relying way to much on pharmacists. So we know they exist, but do we know how many? 1? Maybe 2? I mean, it's a 15 person game, it isn't that big. If Mafia has 2 KPs and aims for both Coag and Barundar, I'm thinking we just lost 1 DT night one. The thing is... why did you guys claim night 1? >_< And Fishball, making Decond would be WAYYYYY to OP to mafia. There are already 3 members, if they only need 4 to lynch every other day, then they can basically screw town over every other day. No way Decond's mafia if his roleclaim is true. Anyway, I feel like we should be scum hunting, but i'm not so sure about my suspects anymore. I say there's no way Decond's mafia. jcarlsoniv, idk, he seems uncharacteristically held back for someone who basically can't die, but on the other hand, there's no way mafia would volunteer to lynch themselves (WIFOM not included in the argument). I'm just keeping a watch on Aidnai right now. =/ I have another thought; I guess I'll wait until morning to make an accusation if anything. :p "HEY LETS SCUM HUNT BUT UHHHHHH DON'T INCLUDE ME OK" also includes some pretty interesting stuff in paragraph 1, its as if you want to signal you know stuff but cant. mafia much? If there's interesting stuff in paragraph 1, why're you posting it to say I post nothing? And why is it mafia if it seems like I want to signal stuff? Didn't I say I left a hint somewhere in the thread recently about my role? It's because I DO WANT TO SIGNAL STUFF. Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 12:25 ghrur wrote:On December 02 2010 12:21 kingjames01 wrote:You hinted that your DT role is different. Based on your role PM, do you think that this following scenario could work? - The other DT announces himself.
- You check him.
- He checks you.
- You both compare your results in the morning.
Well, there are a few things that could go wrong with this: Mafia has someone to frame people with. One of them is paranoid, not insane. One of them is insane and the other is paranoid. We could have mafia claiming DT because everyone's already checked for, especially if godfather exists or there's he's a paranoid DT. But w/es, I suggest you take whatever you've got. If that's just this plan, than so be it. =/ wifom Uhhh, what? I think you're using it wrong. I was stating possibilities of the plan going wrong due to unknowns, not saying it would OBVIOUSLY be like this, therefore it COULDN'T have been like this. I think you'd be better off saying idiocy because that's much closer, lol. Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 10:20 ghrur wrote:On December 02 2010 10:19 LSB wrote:On December 02 2010 10:06 deconduo wrote:On December 02 2010 10:04 Node wrote:
I can't help but notice that the day ended as soon as aidnai no longer held more votes than southrawrea. So deconduo, you're saying that you suspected south enough to kill him without the majority?
And what do you mean by "I can only vote if my vote hammers"? If 8 people are needed to lynch, I can only vote if theres 7 votes on that person already. The exception being when I use my power. Wait, so did you use your power? Yeah, he used his power. Notice there were only 4 votes for SouthRawrea. as much "nothing" as some of mine Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 02:06 ghrur wrote:
God, how did Barundar die? >_< Didn't he say he had a "pill?" Also, 7-3 now, we're going to need to lynch a mafia today. Let's not rush this lynch. nothing Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 02:13 ghrur wrote:On December 05 2010 02:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
oh shit ghrur for some reason i thought you were dead and i was about to flip on you for cheating hard Hahaha, mixing up the games there Doc. xD nothing agreed. Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? this is pretty LOL to me. you leave a hint, because you intend the town to find it (otherwise why leave hints at all) but if you want town to find it, why not just be forthcoming with it? why risk mafia finding it and understanding it and not the town? maybe because you are mafia yourself? Are you trying to fish for my role here? I mean, it's pretty obvious why you drop hints for town to find, because Mafia wouldn't get them. If I cried out I'M DETECTIVE, would it be better than dropping hints and leading lynches because I'm detective? No, because the former would get me killed in a hurry and the latter would give me a better chance of survival and thus to be useful. Besides, you dropped hints that you had a role in Sengoku, does that make you scum? No! Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? nothing Hey, at least help on the question here. I'm truly interested in when my icon changes again, and I don't wanna sort through tons of flying, artsy buffaloes. Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? =) Are you going to spam to get to 1000? Ouch. T_T That hurts. On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play. You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch. What else can you say? I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago. Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game? im inactive but about to post an analysis on annul calling him out for supposedly providing nothing to the town, cool Yeah, at least I post analyses... despite how pissed off people get at them, despite how they're wrong a lot, and despite that I seem to be making more enemies with each one. Also, interesting soooooooooooooooooooo yeah i can play this game too
Except I don't pick and choose your posts. I take them as a collection. Your goal here was to aggressively counter, like most mafia members would. Take Ace in Insane, take Jimbosilvers in Salem what do they do when they're under suspicion? They aggressively counter attack and try to cast doubt on the person suspecting them. And you know what else they do? They twist words and ignore posts just to make their point. You seem to be ignoring a lot of my posts. Interesting huh? You also seem to be aggressively attacking me instead of pacifically defending yourself.
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+ Show Spoiler [EBWODP] +On December 05 2010 16:23 annul wrote:
let me ask you something ghrur
just an immediate response, but for shit like, for example,
"no. deconduo could only VOTE if he was the hammer.
it is possible for him to not vote in a day cycle."
which i said in clarification of someone else making a false assumption... this is a "nothing" post to you. so, tell me, ghrur, what IS a "something" post? if you call this a nothing post then how can i even attempt to respond to your claim that 95% of my shit are "nothing posts"? I'm sorry, it just seemed that it was pretty obvious that this was the way it worked since it's what decond stated in his roleclaim. People don't need to clarify what can easily be read. Something posts would be things that one logically infers. =/ It's like, my question about PMs is completely nothing, but if I inferred that somebody probably had a role to PM, it'd be something. But suppose that is a something post. Does that make the rest of your posts into something as well? Does that make your posts like, and lol KJ, good to see you and i finally agree that hostile attacks have no place in mafia games into something that helps town? and where is your analysis of KJ? he had a "pointless argument" all the same with me. why are you not calling him out on the bullshit too? I'm quite sure Doc and RoL called both of you out on it, but I wasn't calling you out on your argument. I was calling you out on the fact that you started it. There was no need to bring something from Sengoku into this game, especially when it would only cause disruption and anger between you two, unless you were mafia or you really couldn't keep your grudges away. I disagree with both. =/ And do you really want my analysis? You don't seem to trust it one bit. Why make me spam more, and post more nothing when clearly you'd dismiss it in a moment? maybe you and he are both mafia. in fact that makes sense, since he is now conveniently "going to tell you everything" and how you are now going to "protect him"... hmmmmm I'm waiting for him to tell me everything, but I can't protect anyone. I'd only support him if he comes up with good analyses. Otherwise, why should I? Hell, I'd push for his lynch after that promise. + Show Spoiler +On December 05 2010 16:32 annul wrote:nothing[/quote[ Mistake Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 07:53 ghrur wrote:Op, so PMs aren't allowed. Darn. WELL... that kinda throws a wrench in my plans. nothing Correcting my own mistake. It's nothing, but technically, it's clarification. You agree with my standard then? Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 08:39 ghrur wrote:
I'd suggest we just pressure people through voting and discuss our opinions on who looks suspicious or not. Also, having a plan for town to organize around is NEVER bad. I mean, if we can get a town circle, all the better right? Let's see, so far those who haven't posted:
Barundar
RoL
Jcarlsoniv
annul
Pandain (wut?)
Well, might as well be bold.
##Vote RebirthofLegend posting the inactives like 2 hours after game begins, as if it means something, and then a random vote out of nowhere with no logic or reason? k Uhhh, there's a reason. I stated it right there. Is there a reason, and is there logic behind it? Let's see. Reason = I wanna make "inactives" talk. Logic = "These people haven't posted yet" So yes, there is logic and reason, but the premise was wrong. I posted this much too early, and you're correct on that, but to say there's no logic and reason behind it is wrong. It's just it was flawed because of a flawed foundation. Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 09:59 ghrur wrote:Why would we want to do that? Dr. H is basically giving us unlimited time to get a GOOD lynch in, and you want to rush it? Why? I think we can hit a mafia day 1 giving our low player pool if we really try. Cmon Decond, I KNOW you have mafia sniping skills. ^_^ just as much "nothing" as my posts he claims are nothing posts Yeah, I've agreed to this before haven't I? Show nested quote +On November 30 2010 11:42 ghrur wrote:On November 30 2010 10:17 deconduo wrote:On November 30 2010 09:59 ghrur wrote:Why would we want to do that? Dr. H is basically giving us unlimited time to get a GOOD lynch in, and you want to rush it? Why? I think we can hit a mafia day 1 giving our low player pool if we really try. Cmon Decond, I KNOW you have mafia sniping skills. ^_^ I was mostly kidding <3 Seems more like we switched alignments. >_> nothing post Actually, that was hoping to get a response out of Decond because I still suspected him at the time. Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 10:10 ghrur wrote:
After that roleclaim and that defense, I'll admit I was wrong. Decond seems town to me now. :p. I mean, no town would admit to misusing that role so quickly. Peace? lol. admission of wrongness, cool, better than being called out for it later i guess Or... I'd actually admit my mistakes unlike some people? I admit when I'm wrong, and I admit when I post nothing. *GASP* THAT MUST BE SO MAFIA LIKE! Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 08:08 ghrur wrote:
Hey look! RoL and I agree despite me never even reading his analyses. ^_^
Well, I guess we have a lynch candidate.
##Vote Aidnai nothing post, bandwagon follower Actually, if you read the post of mine above this, with Decond's post and everything, I give my ideas behind why this is. I don't quote any of his posts, but I say what I felt when I read through his posts. Sorry if I don't keep quotes with my notes, but it is what it is (day9 ^_^). Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 10:55 ghrur wrote:Oh good god. I come back and there's green blood everywhere. Ugh, green is such a nasty color. We need more red blood... + Show Spoiler +or purple blood. ^_^ Purple so sexy yo, it's like gretorp and haunter But damnit man, Decond never even got to post his analysis. >_< nothing post Yes, yes it was. Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 13:51 ghrur wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On December 03 2010 09:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 08:12 ghrur wrote:On December 03 2010 03:52 kingjames01 wrote:On December 03 2010 03:15 Barundar wrote:As for town night actions we can discuss other targets, but how can they be of use if we don’t know if my scan can be trusted? Fun fact: My ability gives me a read on both the target and people visiting him. So if I target someone who gets sniped I get a read on the mafia, and no matter the returned alignment will be able to point him out. Good reason to scan likely targets. As for surviving, I place my faith in a pharmacology student Okay, this is a good ability for us to build our scum-hunt around. I'm voicing my support for the plan whereby Barundar checks someone of his choice, (keep your target a secret for now Barundar) and announces his findings in the morning. Of course our conversation is public so mafia will try their best to ruin it. What we need is for a Pharmacist to prescribe some medicine to Barundar or whatever it is that you do to keep him safe until the morning. Coagulation is our other DT. We know that one of our DTs tells the truth, the other one lies. Since Coagulation's results are PM'd out randomly, I suspect that he is the one who will have trustworthy results. I'd like for him to be safe as well. There is no real way of ensuring this or coordinating the actions of the Pharmacists though without them claiming. Obviously, Pharmacists should not claim until they absolutely have to. Everyone else, as enlightening as it is, stop with the role-claiming unless you are forced to do so or have a very good reason. Each time someone claims, we have one less place to hide our Pharmacists. I think you guys are relying way to much on pharmacists. So we know they exist, but do we know how many? 1? Maybe 2? I mean, it's a 15 person game, it isn't that big. If Mafia has 2 KPs and aims for both Coag and Barundar, I'm thinking we just lost 1 DT night one. The thing is... why did you guys claim night 1? >_< And Fishball, making Decond would be WAYYYYY to OP to mafia. There are already 3 members, if they only need 4 to lynch every other day, then they can basically screw town over every other day. No way Decond's mafia if his roleclaim is true. Anyway, I feel like we should be scum hunting, but i'm not so sure about my suspects anymore. I say there's no way Decond's mafia. jcarlsoniv, idk, he seems uncharacteristically held back for someone who basically can't die, but on the other hand, there's no way mafia would volunteer to lynch themselves (WIFOM not included in the argument). I'm just keeping a watch on Aidnai right now. =/ I have another thought; I guess I'll wait until morning to make an accusation if anything. :p If you have doubts about my alignment, then your worries will be satisfied assuming everything works out with the checks/lynch. When day rolls around, I ask everyone to hold off voting for me until we have our information from our DT. If something bad happens with the checks, I don't want to be killed off for no reason. Nah, I have hardly any doubts on you right now. Your defense was adequate, your volunteering for lynch is uncharacteristic of mafia, I'm just stupid. xP admission of wrongness, see above Yes, yes it is. See response above. Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 08:12 ghrur wrote:On December 03 2010 03:52 kingjames01 wrote:On December 03 2010 03:15 Barundar wrote:As for town night actions we can discuss other targets, but how can they be of use if we don’t know if my scan can be trusted? Fun fact: My ability gives me a read on both the target and people visiting him. So if I target someone who gets sniped I get a read on the mafia, and no matter the returned alignment will be able to point him out. Good reason to scan likely targets. As for surviving, I place my faith in a pharmacology student Okay, this is a good ability for us to build our scum-hunt around. I'm voicing my support for the plan whereby Barundar checks someone of his choice, (keep your target a secret for now Barundar) and announces his findings in the morning. Of course our conversation is public so mafia will try their best to ruin it. What we need is for a Pharmacist to prescribe some medicine to Barundar or whatever it is that you do to keep him safe until the morning. Coagulation is our other DT. We know that one of our DTs tells the truth, the other one lies. Since Coagulation's results are PM'd out randomly, I suspect that he is the one who will have trustworthy results. I'd like for him to be safe as well. There is no real way of ensuring this or coordinating the actions of the Pharmacists though without them claiming. Obviously, Pharmacists should not claim until they absolutely have to. Everyone else, as enlightening as it is, stop with the role-claiming unless you are forced to do so or have a very good reason. Each time someone claims, we have one less place to hide our Pharmacists. I think you guys are relying way to much on pharmacists. So we know they exist, but do we know how many? 1? Maybe 2? I mean, it's a 15 person game, it isn't that big. If Mafia has 2 KPs and aims for both Coag and Barundar, I'm thinking we just lost 1 DT night one. The thing is... why did you guys claim night 1? >_< And Fishball, making Decond would be WAYYYYY to OP to mafia. There are already 3 members, if they only need 4 to lynch every other day, then they can basically screw town over every other day. No way Decond's mafia if his roleclaim is true. Anyway, I feel like we should be scum hunting, but i'm not so sure about my suspects anymore. I say there's no way Decond's mafia. jcarlsoniv, idk, he seems uncharacteristically held back for someone who basically can't die, but on the other hand, there's no way mafia would volunteer to lynch themselves (WIFOM not included in the argument). I'm just keeping a watch on Aidnai right now. =/ I have another thought; I guess I'll wait until morning to make an accusation if anything. :p "HEY LETS SCUM HUNT BUT UHHHHHH DON'T INCLUDE ME OK" also includes some pretty interesting stuff in paragraph 1, its as if you want to signal you know stuff but cant. mafia much? If there's interesting stuff in paragraph 1, why're you posting it to say I post nothing? And why is it mafia if it seems like I want to signal stuff? Didn't I say I left a hint somewhere in the thread recently about my role? It's because I DO WANT TO SIGNAL STUFF. Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 12:25 ghrur wrote:On December 02 2010 12:21 kingjames01 wrote:You hinted that your DT role is different. Based on your role PM, do you think that this following scenario could work? - The other DT announces himself.
- You check him.
- He checks you.
- You both compare your results in the morning.
Well, there are a few things that could go wrong with this: Mafia has someone to frame people with. One of them is paranoid, not insane. One of them is insane and the other is paranoid. We could have mafia claiming DT because everyone's already checked for, especially if godfather exists or there's he's a paranoid DT. But w/es, I suggest you take whatever you've got. If that's just this plan, than so be it. =/ wifom Uhhh, what? I think you're using it wrong. I was stating possibilities of the plan going wrong due to unknowns, not saying it would OBVIOUSLY be like this, therefore it COULDN'T have been like this. I think you'd be better off saying idiocy because that's much closer, lol. Show nested quote +On December 02 2010 10:20 ghrur wrote:On December 02 2010 10:19 LSB wrote:On December 02 2010 10:06 deconduo wrote:On December 02 2010 10:04 Node wrote:
I can't help but notice that the day ended as soon as aidnai no longer held more votes than southrawrea. So deconduo, you're saying that you suspected south enough to kill him without the majority?
And what do you mean by "I can only vote if my vote hammers"? If 8 people are needed to lynch, I can only vote if theres 7 votes on that person already. The exception being when I use my power. Wait, so did you use your power? Yeah, he used his power. Notice there were only 4 votes for SouthRawrea. as much "nothing" as some of mine Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 02:06 ghrur wrote:
God, how did Barundar die? >_< Didn't he say he had a "pill?" Also, 7-3 now, we're going to need to lynch a mafia today. Let's not rush this lynch. nothing Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 02:13 ghrur wrote:On December 05 2010 02:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
oh shit ghrur for some reason i thought you were dead and i was about to flip on you for cheating hard Hahaha, mixing up the games there Doc. xD nothing agreed. Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? this is pretty LOL to me. you leave a hint, because you intend the town to find it (otherwise why leave hints at all) but if you want town to find it, why not just be forthcoming with it? why risk mafia finding it and understanding it and not the town? maybe because you are mafia yourself? Are you trying to fish for my role here? I mean, it's pretty obvious why you drop hints for town to find, because Mafia wouldn't get them. If I cried out I'M DETECTIVE, would it be better than dropping hints and leading lynches because I'm detective? No, because the former would get me killed in a hurry and the latter would give me a better chance of survival and thus to be useful. Besides, you dropped hints that you had a role in Sengoku, does that make you scum? No! Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? nothing Hey, at least help on the question here. I'm truly interested in when my icon changes again, and I don't wanna sort through tons of flying, artsy buffaloes. Show nested quote +On December 05 2010 14:06 ghrur wrote:On December 05 2010 13:25 kingjames01 wrote:On December 05 2010 13:02 ghrur wrote:
On another note, my 1000th post is coming up. ^_^ Anyone know when mutas pop? Or lurkers? =) Are you going to spam to get to 1000? Ouch. T_T That hurts. On December 05 2010 12:58 ghrur wrote:
Opz, I understand if you're suspicious of me, but I'm going to tell you, I left a hint somewhere along the way confirming my towniness. If you want me to prove it to you, I can do so during the night. I mean, would a mafia push Decond so hard (like an idiot :p)? Well, you've been pretty inactive. Now it seems like you're asking not to be lynched so that you can make it to the Night. If you WERE in fact Red, this would be a pretty good play. You've basically put us in a really awkward position. We cannot ask you to reveal your clue if it puts us at risk. However, we cannot allow you to just throw out vague hints and give you a free pass through the lynch. What else can you say? I've been inactive because I haven't been able to use TL for around 17 out of the last 21 hours or so. =/ If you want actual inactives, look at Aidnai who's basically disappeared despite him promising an analysis. Look at Node who hasn't even been here since the new day started. Heck, even Aeres who's last post was over 24 hours ago. Besides, I've been actively reading this thread, it's just I don't exactly trust my scumhunting after pushing Decond, suspecting Aidnai, and suspecting jcarl without much results. =/ Would you like me to post my thoughts on the game? im inactive but about to post an analysis on annul calling him out for supposedly providing nothing to the town, cool Yeah, at least I post analyses... despite how pissed off people get at them, despite how they're wrong a lot, and despite that I seem to be making more enemies with each one. Also, interesting soooooooooooooooooooo yeah i can play this game too
Except I don't pick and choose your posts. I take them as a collection. Your goal here was to aggressively counter, like most mafia members would. Take Ace in Insane, take Jimbosilvers in Salem what do they do when they're under suspicion? They aggressively counter attack and try to cast doubt on the person suspecting them. And you know what else they do? They twist words and ignore posts just to make their point. You seem to be ignoring a lot of my posts. Interesting huh? You also seem to be aggressively attacking me instead of pacifically defending yourself.
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+ Show Spoiler [another interesting phenomenon] +On December 05 2010 17:52 aidnai wrote:
Well, I have my analysis on Aeres almost ready to go, and i check the thread to see what's up, and here's Annul vs Ghrur.
Before this argument came up, i had not considered annul, but I already analyzed ghrur (didn't post much of it though) and decided he was town. Reading their arguments, it still looks to me like ghrur is town, and he has done a decent analysis, imo better than his analysis of deconduo. Annul's reaction is... well, definitely a reaction. I want to go through the thread and decide for myself about annul though. He really flew under my radar up until now...
Bottom line: I think we may have a winner here, and to avoid confusion and multiple lynch targets, i will hold off on my aeres analysis for now. I'll post it if Annul vs. Ghrur is not going anywhere.
Post both. Also, yes, it is indeed a reaction. You know what's more interesting? He was DEFINITELY online between the time he last posted and the time of my post. Yet why, annul, did you not post your thoughts on the discussion? Opz asked for opinion. Why did you not give it to him? Why were you lurking instead of actually posting and being helpful? You could've said "GHRUR WAS SCUM" or "GHRUR IS USELESS" before I posted anything. In fact, if you were sure I am indeed scum and you are town, you would have done so and tried to secure a safe lynch for the town. However, you didn't. Instead, you stayed in the background, posted nothing since December 5th, 4:30 despite you being on at: 7:21, 9:35, 10:09, 11:23, 11:34, 13:37 (LOL 1337), and 14:09. Why wait until I call you out at 15:44 and post only at 16:23? There are a plethora of un-analyzed people. You could've easily posted about any of them. You could've posted your opinions on me, Node, KJ, Aidnai, but you didn't. Probably to not draw attention to yourself because, heck, as Divinek has shown, sometimes the easiest way to win for scum is to lurk. With that, good night. I'll be off for the next 9 hours.
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Annul, at least counterclaim fully if you're going to say that you're the insane DT and not KJ. Right now, your counterclaim doesn't even give us enough information to believe you. What clue points to your role? What're your other minor abilities? Why does your role "run out of juice?" Why wouldn't you be willing to fully claim to kill a mafia member? What is the name of your role? Come on, unless you tell us all those, are you seriously expecting us to believe your counterclaim over KJ's claim? Furthermore, your description of a role is nowhere to be found on Mafia Wiki. From the roles seen before, every role has an equivalent on Mafia Wiki. Why would you suddenly get a mash-up of a temporary insane DT followed by random "weaker" powers that you won't even share with us? I think this is just a last ditch attempt to confuse town and escape from your lynch.
##Vote Annul
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On December 06 2010 10:01 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On December 06 2010 09:45 ghrur wrote:
Annul, at least counterclaim fully if you're going to say that you're the insane DT and not KJ. Right now, your counterclaim doesn't even give us enough information to believe you. What clue points to your role? What're your other minor abilities? Why does your role "run out of juice?" Why wouldn't you be willing to fully claim to kill a mafia member? What is the name of your role? Come on, unless you tell us all those, are you seriously expecting us to believe your counterclaim over KJ's claim? Furthermore, your description of a role is nowhere to be found on Mafia Wiki. From the roles seen before, every role has an equivalent on Mafia Wiki. Why would you suddenly get a mash-up of a temporary insane DT followed by random "weaker" powers that you won't even share with us? I think this is just a last ditch attempt to confuse town and escape from your lynch.
##Vote Annul I'm not sure we should base anything on mafia wiki. This is an experimental game to play around with things for insane 2, so who knows what Doc has dreamed up.
That's a good point, but they're basically all there.
Look:
Fishball/Priest
Deconduo/Executioner
Kinda like Coag/Whisperer role except you can't whisper back
Barundar/Radar
Opz/Innocent Child
LSB/Hobo
SR/Psychic
We have yet to get one that doesn't fit anything closely.
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Good job everyone. ^_^ Let's get done with 2 more days and finally end this crazy mini-mafia. :p
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On December 07 2010 08:03 kingjames01 wrote:
The colours in the Night 3 post reminds me of Christmas... =)
I hope everyone gets their actions in soon! I'm really excited to see what happened.
We should coordinate so that everyone is online at the same time. Depending on what my check shows we could then all vote and not give mafia any time to react and form a defense. If we rush the day then we can get into another Night phase.
At the moment, the game is 5 Town to 2 Mafia. We're in very good shape especially since we have 1 player who is very likely to be mafia. I also have my eye another player who's posts have been full of logical holes.
I swear, if you get killed tonight, we're back to square one. I only have one suspect right now. =/
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I'm here KJ, what're your results? And god damnit, Opz died. FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUU.
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On December 07 2010 09:15 orgolove wrote:Show nested quote +On December 04 2010 06:10 kingjames01 wrote:
Someone has a spirit inside them waiting to come out. (1) jcarlsoniv
Becomes a spirit upon death. Retains ability to speak. Ability to vote?
Somebody fell in love.
Somebody has been born anew with the power of love. (2, 3)
Lovers
A child is playing in the yard. (4) RebirthOfLeGenD/~OpZ~
Innocent Child
A man with a black hood stands in an alley.
The man in the black hood found his axe. (5) deconduo
Executioner
Someone just got a pharmacology degree from Liquidia University.
Another student got his Pharmocology degree. (6,7)
Pharmacists
A man begs in the street. (8) Pandain/LSB
Hobo - Watches the town at night and sees all of the actions.
Two men with a third eye, one tells the truth and the other lies (9,10)
SouthRawrea, ?
Psychic, Hypnotist
Somewhere on a wall the words are spraypainted. "Sometimes the day is
over before you think"
Sometimes the hammer strikes back and it almost struck evil (11)
?
Someone got caught speeding in a car. (12) Barundar
Traffic Cop - Uses a Radar Gun to track people and learn their alignments.
A guy has brains on his mind but doesn't know why. (13) orgolove
Zombie - Veteran role
Repetition the new epidemic of Liquidia? (14)
Possibly a disease carrier, a la Insane.
A teacher and a preacher, a mouse and a house all fear or love the hammer (15) Fishball, Coagulation?
Preacher? 3. ghrur 5. Orgolove veteran 6. Aidnai 8. jcarlsoniv 10. deconduo 12. kingjames01 15. Aeres Two of the remaining are pharmacologists. We also have a insane detective, four roles that don't want to be the hammer vote, and a disease carrier (probably mafia).
Decond's dead.
Okay... if we still have 2 pharmacologists, then is jcarl lying? Because we have 6 remaining.
If we have:
1 insane
1 veteran
2 pharmacologists
1 spirit
then we'd have to have 5 blue and 2 red, this doesn't add up, what?
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On December 07 2010 09:53 orgolove wrote:
I think we also have another set of lovers, right?
No... We should have one less blue role than we do... o_o. Wtf is going on?
We've only offed 1 mafia, meaning there are 2 left.
We've got a claim for insane DT, Spirit, and veteran.
There should still be 2 pharmacist's alive by Dr. H's clue.
We only have 6 people.
These add up to 7 roles... what??? What's going on?
Let me collect the posts now:
+ Show Spoiler +SouthRawrea the Psychic was killed.
Psychic - You can sense how many mafia voted for each player that is lynched. You win when the town wins.
Fishball was shot by firing squad. Because he was the Priest, You can not cast the hammer (deciding vote). If someone casts the hammer on you, they will die.
Deconduo the Executioner was killed.You can only vote if you are casting the hammer (the deciding vote). In addition you can end a lynch that has just half of the required votes every other day cycle and lynch the target automatically.
Coagulation the Whisperer,You can send messages to other players anonymously. PM me the message and the name of the message you want sent and I will PM it to them. You can not hint at who you are/use your screenname in the message. You win if the town wins.
Barundar the Radar Tech - You own a special radar that can check if people are mafia. Choose a player at night to shoot a radar gun at. At the end of the night you get a list of people who visited them (including them) and how many of them were mafia.
LSB the hobo - You spend all day drunk in the town square. Because you stay in shady places, you have an idea of what everybody did at night but are too drunk to remember who they were. You know all night actions but not the names of the players who did them. You win if the town wins.
Node the Lover - You have fallen in love with a mafia player and begun a relationship. If that player dies, you die. You can PM each other. You must keep your relationship a secret. In addition, you have the powers of a tracker. You win with the town. Your lover is:
annul
OpZ the Innocent Child - confirmed green
Annul the Treacherous Lover - You have fallen in love with a town player and begun a relationship. If that player dies, you die. You win if the mafia wins. You must keep your relationship a secret. You can PM each other. Your lover is: Node
So yeah, that's 9 dead, 6 alive. We should have 3 reds, so that's 2 reds left and 4 green/blues left. What?
Okay, so after Aeres, we have to lynch one more person, but for now, I'm fine with aeres. The problem comes after Aeres is lynched. But I guess we'll worry about that after?
##Vote Aeres
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Btw, just so town knows, we're basically in mylo.
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On December 07 2010 11:17 orgolove wrote:Show nested quote +On December 07 2010 09:14 kingjames01 wrote:
Also, I received a pill last night which I took. Thanks to the pharmacist who kept me alive. =)
##unvote AeresAt this point, the townie pharamcist can roleclaim. Even if he dies, we can get both mafia using today's lynch and tomorrow's lynch. 1. Did you really send a pill to kingjames01?2. Can your pill be taken immediately after you send it to him?I say this because I received a pill last night, but I am prohibited from taking it until the next day. I think Kingjames just made up the part about receiving a pill.
I'm the townie pharmacist
I sent one to Kingjames last night.
However, I've also sent one to Barundar and Coagulation. Idk why they died. I think Barundar didn't eat it the first night probably because we both (red and green) pharmacists sent one to him. He probably ate the mafia one night 2, and Coag didn't eat my pill or something. =/ And yes, you're allowed my pill to be taken immediately.
Anyway, I said I left a hint. James, mind telling me my hint? you said you thought you found it.
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On December 07 2010 11:25 kingjames01 wrote:
Well, why don't we ask the Town Pharmacist? ghrur, do you mind telling us who you sent your pill to last night?
Hahaha, okay, James is cleared for sure now.
Here's my reasoning:
If he were mafia, then he'd know the red pharmacist.
If he knew the pharmacist role, and he knew the other pharmacist was red, then he would know that I can't protect myself (which at this point, it shouldn't matter as mafia knows too).
If he knows this, then he would've hit me last night as mafia instead of Opz.
However, he did none of those. Therefore, he's cleared in my eyes.
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On December 07 2010 11:28 orgolove wrote:
Hmm.
Was yours in pill form?
ghur, tell me, in what form is your medicine?
My medicine is a bottle of pills. That's about as specific as my role PM gets.
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On December 07 2010 11:30 kingjames01 wrote:This is the post where I figured you out. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=172696¤tpage=21#401Show nested quote +On December 03 2010 08:12 ghrur wrote:On December 03 2010 03:52 kingjames01 wrote:On December 03 2010 03:15 Barundar wrote:As for town night actions we can discuss other targets, but how can they be of use if we don’t know if my scan can be trusted? Fun fact: My ability gives me a read on both the target and people visiting him. So if I target someone who gets sniped I get a read on the mafia, and no matter the returned alignment will be able to point him out. Good reason to scan likely targets. As for surviving, I place my faith in a pharmacology student Okay, this is a good ability for us to build our scum-hunt around. I'm voicing my support for the plan whereby Barundar checks someone of his choice, (keep your target a secret for now Barundar) and announces his findings in the morning. Of course our conversation is public so mafia will try their best to ruin it. What we need is for a Pharmacist to prescribe some medicine to Barundar or whatever it is that you do to keep him safe until the morning. Coagulation is our other DT. We know that one of our DTs tells the truth, the other one lies. Since Coagulation's results are PM'd out randomly, I suspect that he is the one who will have trustworthy results. I'd like for him to be safe as well. There is no real way of ensuring this or coordinating the actions of the Pharmacists though without them claiming. Obviously, Pharmacists should not claim until they absolutely have to. Everyone else, as enlightening as it is, stop with the role-claiming unless you are forced to do so or have a very good reason. Each time someone claims, we have one less place to hide our Pharmacists. I think you guys are relying way to much on pharmacists. So we know they exist, but do we know how many? 1? Maybe 2? I mean, it's a 15 person game, it isn't that big. If Mafia has 2 KPs and aims for both Coag and Barundar, I'm thinking we just lost 1 DT night one. The thing is... why did you guys claim night 1? >_< And Fishball, making Decond would be WAYYYYY to OP to mafia. There are already 3 members, if they only need 4 to lynch every other day, then they can basically screw town over every other day. No way Decond's mafia if his roleclaim is true. Anyway, I feel like we should be scum hunting, but i'm not so sure about my suspects anymore. I say there's no way Decond's mafia. jcarlsoniv, idk, he seems uncharacteristically held back for someone who basically can't die, but on the other hand, there's no way mafia would volunteer to lynch themselves (WIFOM not included in the argument). I'm just keeping a watch on Aidnai right now. =/ I have another thought; I guess I'll wait until morning to make an accusation if anything. :p
Oh jeez you're pro, lol. :p My hint was color.
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