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SouthRawrea
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November 12 2010 02:58 GMT
#12
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SouthRawrea
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November 26 2010 20:41 GMT
#241
I encourage people to reread their roles and ask about changes because I've noticed and asked (a) change(s) regarding certain role(s). I will not post the one(s) I've found to avoid revealing my role in the case where the information I've obtained is only available to the person with the role.
SouthRawrea
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November 27 2010 01:41 GMT
#285
On November 27 2010 09:21 kitaman27 wrote:
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On November 27 2010 05:41 SouthRawrea wrote:
I encourage people to reread their roles and ask about changes because I've noticed and asked (a) change(s) regarding certain role(s). I will not post the one(s) I've found to avoid revealing my role in the case where the information I've obtained is only available to the person with the role.


Ya it looks like the mods might have copied/pasted without modifying the entire role for Salem. We really shouldn't put up with their laziness.

Also, it might be beneficial to post if anyone has pm'd you fishing for role claims, as it would make sense for a mafia to try, now that DrH has posted a medic was so willing to give it up.


Well I've gotten no PMs because I've made it pretty clear that it should be a secretive thing that should be done to avoid having mafia inference peoples' roles through the information available to them.


On November 27 2010 08:21 Glasse wrote:
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On November 27 2010 08:07 Glasse wrote:
hi, don't waste a blue role on me, not worth it. (medic, dt, other stuff we have)

meatshield represent.



OH MY GOD

stop the pm spam, this meant green, not crazy thing with multiple hits


i'm useless so i'm a meat shield


If claiming green at the beginning of the game as WIFOM strategy was useful, everybody would do it. None of this please. NONE.
SouthRawrea
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November 27 2010 16:31 GMT
#335
On November 27 2010 17:04 DarthThienAn wrote:
Didn't you guys know? Protactinium is schizophrenic. That's why he said "we".

Seriously though, for those of you wondering, I'm voting for DrH currently because I think he's full of crap. Here's how I see it:

1) An actual medic roleclaimed to him: conclusion - medic is silly in the head, unless he's pulling shenanigans and claimed to someone else to bait mafia. Why? You don't know DrH's alignment, why would you RC with nothing in the game to look at? Simply because he's a "better player"? That's ridiculous -_-.

2) A mafia player claimed to him as medic - I'll agree that it's a little silly for mafia to RC medic, unless they plan on doing something fast. It would give DrH the power to "protect" certain players from mafia hits, by saying "protect this person". If that person gets hit, then the mafia gets outted.

3) A townie/non-medic claims medic - someone thinks they're good and is fishing. Otherwise, it's retarded.

4) DrH, mafia, lying, wants to make a huge ploy to become trusted in the town/get the names of some blues. And the "he'll attract too much attention" arguments don't apply here, because any mafia willing to attract attention is confident enough that they'll be able to handle/deflect it. I think this is more likely than the other 3 options, thought 1 is close. But with nothing to go on so far, this is my vote for now.

Also, I'd like to throw in that Protactinium's first post is retarded. I'd be happy to vote for him as well.


Considering the plays we've seen so far in this game, I would have to say that options 1 and 3 are highly possible. I feel like we're in the Maritimes with all the fishers we have: we've had TWO green claims in thread as well several PMs going around with claims which are presumably being used to gather info from newer players who may respond to them honestly. Fishing is most helpful for groups of players (i.e. Town circle or mafia) as you can have more information about a single thing to converge in your group. I feel that the most likely options here is that DrH is fishing for information regardless of role, that a new player legitimately claimed to him or someone else is fishing. Only 1 of these 4 (implied) options is mafia related and I feel that this is much too early in the game to quell this as we may actually have a town circle eventually form here (with DT checks and whatnot). I do encourage people to limit the amount of information given to DrH and ANYONE really to also limit the threat if they are actually mafia. Good? Now we need a different vote.
SouthRawrea
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November 27 2010 22:15 GMT
#376
He's not just looking for slipups but reactions. Also with mass PMs like this he begins establishing contacts immediately in the game causing to be a sort of convergence point of information.
SouthRawrea
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November 27 2010 23:31 GMT
#383
I feel that youngminii at this point in time has still been inactive for unreasonable amount of time for a game barring extraordinary situations. As my vote on DTA won't seem to have any effect for this day, I will be switching my vote to this inactive.
SouthRawrea
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November 27 2010 23:39 GMT
#385
Haha noww you show up.
SouthRawrea
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November 28 2010 00:05 GMT
#390
Okay it doesn't really matter to me which inactive gets lynched. In all honesty this second vote switch is happening because of some activity in PM land which has me convinced that many of the reasons to vote Kenpachi are squishy like jello while BrownBear has yet to respond. Youngmini has also begun talking and as rushed as his post may be, at least he isn't inactive. Vote goes to Brownbear.
SouthRawrea
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November 28 2010 01:29 GMT
#443
Okay please please please! Some of you really need to touch up on your reading skills. The Chaos Ensuant DID know who he was (read the role description). Also please consider the fact that it is highly likely that there is more than 1 chaos ensuant. Also try not to overstate things. (Ex: I heavily defend myself from attacks)
SouthRawrea
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November 28 2010 01:34 GMT
#449
On November 28 2010 10:30 DarthThienAn wrote:
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On November 28 2010 10:29 SouthRawrea wrote:
Okay please please please! Some of you really need to touch up on your reading skills. The Chaos Ensuant DID know who he was (read the role description). Also please consider the fact that it is highly likely that there is more than 1 chaos ensuant. Also try not to overstate things. (Ex: I heavily defend myself from attacks)

I think what was meant is that no one but the CE knew who he was. So ie. Kenpachi is mafia, mafia don't know BB's role, mafia all jump on BB to save Kenpachi.

Just throwing out a hypothetical situation.


Ah I'm such a hyprocrit. D: I was raging about the role thing with annul.
SouthRawrea
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November 28 2010 03:24 GMT
#457
Looks like you're calling all the shots. You can choose who the medic protects and you're the only one that's giving advice to a DT for checks. Question: Why announce in public for the medic claimer to protect you when you can just PM them? Isn't that a little strange? Also some more confusion lies with how you only consider yourself a maybe for a DT check while Darth is priority #1. DT claiming to you is a big nono because if you're a traitor or godfather it could be lights out for town on Day 2. Also the whole DT mouthpiece thing isn't entirely trustworthy and I think that the mouthpiece should claim in public rather than solely to you if such a situation does end up occuring.

This whole medic claiming to you thing is becoming less trustable to me. I consider that either a slip-up or a pointless action of WIFOM that would've already been considered by mafia as if you are a townie, then you are a threat to them. So which is it?
SouthRawrea
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November 28 2010 04:05 GMT
#459
Rather than saying nothing is certain, I was saying that there was a good chAnce that you're not townaligned and that if you're mafia that they may have elected you as elder because you're experienced and because of the pivotal role you have in the town ATM. (It makes sense for the end of day 1 to be a deadline for a choice for elder and that's what it seems to indicate in the role description)
SouthRawrea
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November 28 2010 04:12 GMT
#461
Kaykay as long as we're super careful about this we shouldn't be able to put ourselves at more of a risk than we already have with the damn medic claim. Remember: super careful D:
SouthRawrea
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November 28 2010 04:17 GMT
#463
It's okay we're both clarifying in PM land.
SouthRawrea
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November 28 2010 14:43 GMT
#492
Scaramanga you obviously don't know how effective PMs have been in this game so far as you've been AFK FOR THE ENTIRE GAME. Don't run your mouth about something you've yet to be involved in. Also with a comparison between your analysis and Pandain's you can see one of them is obviously lacklustre and had little effort put into it. I advise that you either try again or avoid referring back to your own analysis in the future. (As I've seen in previous games. It really is painful to watch someone telling the rest of the town to read a shit analysis that they've already read and have it be the basis for the rest of the person's play). Basically what you said about Coag was: He has done nothing useful ergo he is mafia.
SouthRawrea
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November 28 2010 20:04 GMT
#528
I suggest that we move on.
SouthRawrea
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November 29 2010 00:27 GMT
#541
Just don't announce it here is what he is saying okay?
SouthRawrea
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November 29 2010 00:28 GMT
#542
EBWODP:
Nvm I get it.
SouthRawrea
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November 29 2010 02:10 GMT
#565
Lol I saw the ninja edit. .
The mafia's kills were strange though, I can only assume that Barundar and Aidnai were attempts at blue snipes while Deconduo was the kill of an active player who might have been on to something with his experiment regarding people switching votes to BrownBear everytime someone voted for Kenpachi. I suggest we start with possible DT mouthpieces to speak up if there is one at this point in the game.
SouthRawrea
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November 29 2010 02:16 GMT
#568
On November 29 2010 11:14 Kenpachi wrote:
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On November 29 2010 11:10 Amber[LighT] wrote:
This I received from Ghrur... I don't know if he was trying to keep me away from others, but he did provide a "list" he was suspicious of:

Hey, nights about to end, and we're about to get some new information, but before that happens, can I ask you what you think about Town's reasoning on who's mafia? I understand that I draw suspicion because I basically cemented Brownbear's lynch, and if we look at him as a townie, it's like, yeah durrr people who voted BB. But the thing is, I don't think that's actually a totally fair assumption to make. I mean, did you see Protact's way of "fishing?" I think it's the scum's way of getting in touch with the chaos ensuant. Then, guess what, Protact just happened to vote FOR Kenpachi to maybe help save Brownbear?

Anyway, I think it makes sense that mafia DID get in contact with BB, and in that case, we shouldn't be focusing on who voted BB, but who voted Kenpachi. This includes:
Barunder
Protactinium
Node
KtheZ
Youngminii

I'd say Node and Youngminii are fairly quiet, which both makes me think they could be lurking mafia. However, I'd like to get your opinion on this because while it makes sense, the rest of the town seemed to have just glossed over it. =/


Thanks for not killing me though, Ghrur. ^____^

You either got protected or he might be mindfucking you. Or he was planning on killing you the next night but i think this is quality info


Protection= impossible. 1 Bomb max + 3NK + No vig until N2. = 4 deaths
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 29 2010 03:10 GMT
#578
Alright I'm not entire sure of the legitimacy of DrH's town circle but I've had a DT come to me with my correct role so I will act as his mouthpiece for the remainder of this game. Basically in PM land at this point we've been looking for a secure way of connecting with DrH's circle without putting risk to both groups.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
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November 29 2010 22:21 GMT
#612
On November 29 2010 12:22 annul wrote:
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On November 29 2010 12:12 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 29 2010 12:10 SouthRawrea wrote:
Alright I'm not entire sure of the legitimacy of DrH's town circle but I've had a DT come to me with my correct role so I will act as his mouthpiece for the remainder of this game. Basically in PM land at this point we've been looking for a secure way of connecting with DrH's circle without putting risk to both groups.


Well that is some progress at least. However, I won't completely trust this after annul raping us in Haunted...





;D

... ;D

that said, the other, more probable alternative way this could fuck town over (other than him being godfather i mean) is that he is actually mafia and his "DT" is either another mafia player and/or doesnt exist. in a game like this with only 1 mafia team, sacrificing 1 member for completely fucking the town circle is a good play, especially if he can get a few other blues out of the deal.

this was bad in haunted because the red teams wanted to kill the other red team and NOT the town, but here with only 1 red team and their target the town, those blues will fall pretty quickly to a play like that.


Please do tell how this is more probable? I do agree that there is a chance but the most probable? DT checks DrH's identity and then reveals his identity. How is it a sensible strategy to then put two mafia members at risk for a town circle that no one trusts at this point? As well, there are no other DT mouthpieces at this point to counterclaim which would've been perfectly sensible to do after I claimed to be a DT mouthpiece seeing as how its unlikely that there would be 3 DTs in a game of this size. I never said I needed the identity of DrH's medic either. So what? I get 1 potential blue out of this whole ordeal for 2 reds at the end?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
November 29 2010 22:22 GMT
#613
To avoid any misunderstandings: I do agree that there is a chance from your standpoint*
EBWODP
SouthRawrea
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November 30 2010 21:26 GMT
#694
Since noone is really doing much, I'd like to put the spotlight on Glasse. I've been a little wary of you from the beginning.

On November 27 2010 08:07 Glasse wrote:
hi, don't waste a blue role on me, not worth it. (medic, dt, other stuff we have)

meatshield represent.

Seriously, what on earth is this? It's not like you really took it back the next post either? I realize that people have PMs on this and if there is anything useful in them such as motives or intents feel free to share them.

On November 28 2010 06:53 Glasse wrote:
wow pming drh is a bad thing i guess

he just posts everything rofl

Why would posting information publicly be bad? Assuming that you're not revealing your role or anything too important, you'd really have nothing to be afraid of regardless of who is posting it unless you have something to hide which you don't. You're green right?


On November 28 2010 09:43 Glasse wrote:
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On November 28 2010 06:55 Coagulation wrote:
On November 28 2010 06:53 Glasse wrote:
wow pming drh is a bad thing i guess

he just posts everything rofl



well hes going about it in an extremely pro town way


yea now that i actually read them that's kinda true :3


Just catching his mistake or scumslip.

On November 30 2010 23:17 Glasse wrote:
Alright i can't be on for the rest of the vote ends so i'm going to vote myself due to me thinking kenpachi is town and he's an easy bandwagon for scum.

I'll try to be more active in the future, lots of work to do at college these days.


If you were fully aware that you were going to be inactive for the rest of the vote, why not give reasons for why you are suspicious of certain other people instead of effectively abstaining by voting yourself?

Aside from the PMs which I should probably ask DrH about in PMland, there's been nothing but early game spam, an immediate (and pointless) green claim that really suits no purpose but to distance yourself from the discussion and a potential scumslip. Now I know he might not be on to defend but it seems that he has a failed attempt to clear himself from suspicion, disregards any town discussion but posts semi-regularily to avoid being one of the inactive lynch candidates. In a slow game like this, the best way to hide as mafia is to not discuss anything important. Alot of the scum are in hiding this game and Glasse stands out as scum who's made an early game slipup. To me, he is a better lynch candidate than Kenpachi and so I'm voting him.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
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December 01 2010 01:38 GMT
#828
WTF
SouthRawrea
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December 01 2010 01:39 GMT
#829
What on earth happened while I was gone.. Seriously What!??
SouthRawrea
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December 01 2010 02:52 GMT
#844
Well if Dr.H is lying, then we've got two Mafia members: him and his medic. We've enough reason to trust him completely though.
SouthRawrea
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December 01 2010 13:07 GMT
#876
On December 01 2010 12:04 jcarlsoniv wrote:
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On December 01 2010 12:03 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
btw southrawrea has already been confirmed by a dt, you can roleclaim to him

i've been sharing literally everything with southrawrea and the dt. there is no information i have that they don't.


If this can be confirmed by South, that would be lovely.

So at least you are being kept in check by them. How do you feel about a mass claim Doc?


I don't quite understand what needs to be confirmed but yeah I was dt checked N1 and DocH has been sharing his info with me. (Be back in about 8 hours TT.TT)
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
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December 02 2010 01:04 GMT
#931
Oh damnnnn
SouthRawrea
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December 02 2010 01:08 GMT
#934
Whether or not the town takes it upon themselves to care is ehhh... :/
SouthRawrea
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December 02 2010 01:27 GMT
#952
Wait, so both Chaoser, Pandain, me and Radfield are the godfather?
SouthRawrea
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December 02 2010 02:26 GMT
#975
Vigilante: If you do exist in this game, it is now or never. Claim to DrH or me. It is a necessity that we ascertain the existence of a Paranoid Villager in order to understand what resources we have left at our disposal. No CC could possibly clear you as well. To my knowledge there are probably players who have not yet claimed who are under suspicion. At this point in time I'm beginning to think that there might not be one. I also encourage you, kavdragon in particular to roleclaim via PM. I know you've been extremely inactive but basically you can ignore the first day if you're still trying to readup everything. I highly suggest trusting DrH at this point. Also, inactives: Please wake up. Shits picking up and if you're town, I suggest you pitch in. (If I end up having a really delayed post its because I forgot what I was gonna say part way through.)
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
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December 02 2010 20:53 GMT
#1038
On December 03 2010 04:16 Kavdragon wrote:
Durp.

Radfield has only really spent his time defending himself, and has continued to not post anything of benefit to the town.


I was supportive of lynching inactives during the very beginning of this game but as I have realized, "inactive" describes half of the town. At this point we've had quite a few replacements as well which results in a very slim amount of people actually having a decent-sized post count (without even considering benefical posts) barring spam. While inactive may be unhelpful to town, I suspect that there are about 3 mafia hiding within the inactive pool while the others are either defending themselves right now or sheeping along. Ideally we want to find the active mafia, get the town involved in discussion thereby reducing the number of inactives and providing material for analysis, and rinse and repeat until victory. While I'm not saying that your judgement is incorrect, I'd rather search for mafia-esque behaviour rather than lack of town behaviour now. My apologies for using "inactive player" and "player who fails to contribute anything useful" interchangeably.
SouthRawrea
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December 02 2010 20:54 GMT
#1039
EBWOP: This is not directed at you directly Kavdragon, I just forgot to take that quote out.
SouthRawrea
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December 03 2010 23:14 GMT
#1100
Okay well there are 0 No votes. I honestly don't really care anymore who we lynch today. People keep changing their minds. Are we satisfied with Youngminii then?
SouthRawrea
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December 04 2010 03:10 GMT
#1129
Glad I didn't switch permanently .
SouthRawrea
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December 05 2010 21:15 GMT
#1186
I've been absent for today but it seems like the town has actually picked up the ball. I don't see a point in trying to convince the town to lynch anybody else as I suspect youngminii as well not to mention there are countless votes on him. Let's burn the witch.
SouthRawrea
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December 06 2010 04:32 GMT
#1228
So should we choose to lynch the hatter, we should not reveal who the bombs are on but stick with the decision just so we don't get the mafia turning on us. Keep in mind that the bombs were placed in accordance with who we thought was scummy. I'm almost positive now that one of the targets is mafia. So IMHO, there's 1 near-certain scum + one player we thought was scummy and then 2 lynches vs lynching 1 scum + 3 guesses. The difference is that we save a night at the cost of the MH's life. Unless there's something I'm not factoring in here, this seems to be our best option. I'd like the majority of people to comment on this before we go through with it.
SouthRawrea
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December 07 2010 01:36 GMT
#1248
We have no choice on a lynch for today. He can only choose at night.
SouthRawrea
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December 07 2010 02:42 GMT
#1251
Wait wtf is going on... How are we lynching someone and the MH at the same time? KtheZ you sure you know what's going on? One of the bombs is on Radfield. So our choices are to lynch him or the MH who has a bomb on Rad(the second bomb will not be disclosed so that the mafia don't try and sway the town to change their votes). No survival for him.
SouthRawrea
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December 07 2010 02:56 GMT
#1252
Or maybe I'm confused now. D:
SouthRawrea
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December 08 2010 01:02 GMT
#1314
OH LOLLL I VOTED AFTER THE GAME FINISHED
SouthRawrea
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December 08 2010 01:37 GMT
#1341
On December 08 2010 10:05 kitaman27 wrote:
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On December 08 2010 10:02 SouthRawrea wrote:
OH LOLLL I VOTED AFTER THE GAME FINISHED


I demand a modkill. This game is under protest.

You were dt checked day one right?



We actually had a clutch Godfather pick. We initially picked Protactinium but two hours before day start we switched to me and Artanis got back a vet report from me day 2 (technically cuz it's after Night 1. Day 1 is the game start technically but the first DT check was used on me).
SouthRawrea
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December 08 2010 04:45 GMT
#1355
It was fun .
SouthRawrea
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December 08 2010 20:47 GMT
#1363
On December 08 2010 23:32 Amber[LighT] wrote:
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On December 08 2010 10:38 Incognito wrote:
On December 08 2010 10:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On December 08 2010 10:21 Incognito wrote:
On December 08 2010 10:12 Kavdragon wrote:
Yeah, i think that this game will be quoted as a textbook example of how town circles can go wrong. I think that the mafia got a little lucky with the GF being DT checked day one, but they still deserved the win. Regardless of how badly the town played (yeah, me too), I think that the mafia did a decent job. Well played.

GG.


This is a textbook example of how town circles can go wrong. So was TL Mafia XXX. So was TL Mafia XXVIII. The list goes on.

Regardless, town and mafia both played a mediocre game. And when both sides play a mediocre game, that usually means the mafia wins. DH was the only person reasonably able to do anything. Mafia succeeded at infiltrating the town circle and thought the game was over by then. As seen from Day 3, clearly, it was not. Mafia played a passive game and were weak in the thread. But maybe they didn't have to be since town was also weak there too.

and haunted mafia where annul raped the town through the town circle


On a further note: Theres only 3 games I remember where a town circle actually benefited the town. One was TL Mafia 4, where town circle destroyed the game Night 1 because mafia didn't read the rules. The second was Mafia V, where Town lynched red 7-8 times in a row (can't remember exactly, but it was almost a perfect game). However, in this game, town circle benefited from the fact that all the top tier players were town-sided. The third game was Mafia XX, where mafia played a passive game and information in the town circle was strictly kept between 3 players. The funny thing about that game, though, was that the mafia knew who the town circle was but couldn't do anything to stop them. That game also had too many strong blue roles. The moral of the story is: town circles only work well when information is kept strictly guarded AND the game has abnormal circumstances like described above. Otherwise, just don't try it.


You gotta give credit for DrH pulling the strings getting 2 town circles set up. I wish he would post what actually happened the first couple of days. When he PMed me I was ready to help since I assumed he was pro-town and I really had nothing to lose. I was upset that I got targeted on Night 2

It's funny I had Radfield pegged from the start, and I told DrH not to give him too much information. I probably should have taken a step back and considered SouthRawrea, but we never had much contact so he wasn't someone I was thinking about.

I am disappointed with some of the poor play, particularly of the blues in this game. There are 2 things you shouldn't do:
-Never claim medic if you're the medic in the thread. How will you be protected? You're handing blue roles over
-Don't ever think you're more useful staying in the shadows with a +2 life role. What's the point in that? Youngminii got lynched because mafia knew that was the best way to eliminate him. Either that or keep him to the end. The sad part is I handed YM to the mafia with my exchange with ghrur. I did the analysis for them and it should have been clear when he didn't die immediately to realize he was blue and use him as a voice for the town. It was poor of me to not connect those dots.

Veterans and medics should NEVER role claim, or at least be careful of how they claim. You can claim without actually claiming, especially in a PM-based game.


Yeah I had to be careful of you because DrH told me that he trusted you the most. I wanted you dead before DrH.
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