On November 19 2010 11:50 Glasse wrote:
well i did not forget that, i didnt know that

if i was mafia i would've converted one of you, which didnt happen as i'm alive and there isnt 2 mafia in the game right now

thats not misleading, that's been fucking proven because i'm flash and you were visited by the yakuza that sacrificed

Convienant.
And again, your misleading. If you had tried to convert, there was a good chance it would fail if I protected the right person.

And again, great arguments. What do they rely on? That your flash. What do mine rely on? Cold hard reasoning, which also happen to support the fact I'm flash.

You could negate anything by saying something. If KtheZ was a rolecop and found you were mafia, you could negate that by saying "no, cause I'm rolecop". Which is what your doing right now,

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 02:53 GMT

#662

So please, KtheZ, why am I "confirmed mafia"

Pandain

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November 19 2010 02:53 GMT

#663

On November 19 2010 11:52 Glasse wrote:

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On November 19 2010 11:49 Pandain wrote:

On November 19 2010 11:47 KtheZ wrote:

On November 19 2010 11:41 KtheZ wrote:

On November 19 2010 11:37 Pandain wrote:

On November 19 2010 11:29 KtheZ wrote:

On November 19 2010 10:58 Pandain wrote:

On November 19 2010 10:57 Glasse wrote:

On November 19 2010 10:56 Pandain wrote:

On November 19 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote:
wtf what you are saying doesnt even make sense?

if i was original mafia i could convert someone as well as kill someone, lsb was killed last night BUT conversion was not used because kthez or you arent mafia teamed with me, and i'm not dead due to failed conversion.

therefor someone that was converted is the last mafia, which means you, town win because i shut you down easily with events that happened in the game.

LOGIC SIR, LOGIC

And how was I converted?
Let me guess, you tried to convert me. which no townie would have known.
That's the only way that could happen.

Another slip, my friend.

if i tried to convert you and failed I WOULD FUCKING BE DEAD, WOULD YOU PLEASE FUCKING UNDERSTAND THAT?

Yakuza, can convert someone to mafia during the night, but sacrifices themselves while doing so. If that person is under shrink protection you will still die and they won't be converted. If you are protected by a doctor, the conversion will still go through and you will not die.

Point taken.
However, then obviously no one was converted.
So you're still lying, eh?
Either that or spouting stuff which has nothing to do with what your talking about.

Pandain, if noone was converted, the game would have ended. Its really obvious you're mafia.

Man frickin use your mind.
No one was converted because glasse is mafia.

Let me lay this out for you.

Night two:Glasse mc's coag
coag protects glasse
Kenpachi fails to convert me, dies.

Glasse gets coag lynched so then he can get to late game basically confirmed and get me lynched.
Night three they hit lsb because they can't let him reveal that glasse is mafia.

omfg

That reasoning is extremely far-fetched. Are you telling me that coag would rather protect a RANDOM person than LSB, who had claimed?

Kenpachi visiting you before he committed suicide is enough proof its you.

Although Glasse, I'd like to note that both mafia ARE able to MC on the same day

Wait this isnt even RIGHT. Coag was shown to be YAKUZA (there probably would be a diff name if he was a converted person)

Agian, that is not the case.
Jeezes

how would you know? in every other games with this kind of abilities it ends up saying 'mafia [town role] or traitor if its 3rd party

cause i know the rules

Pandain

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November 19 2010 02:55 GMT

#667

On November 19 2010 11:53 KtheZ wrote:
Because kenpachi visited you when he committed suicide. Simple as that.
Plus, if you really were yourself, why would you conveniently decide to protect yourself when it was vital that LSB remain town?
In fact, didnt you read my posts in the beginning that it probably is better for shrink to get MCed rather than doctor or detective?

I've already explained this.

I was pretty likely to be MCED(had caught kenpachi, most likely they wouldn't LSB because they would figure he would be protected like the first night)

in addition, it isn't good for shrink to be mced.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 02:56 GMT

#669

On November 19 2010 11:54 Glasse wrote:

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my great argument rely on game events that actually happened and not a bunch of shit you are throwing up in yuor posts. also how is anything you are saying proving that you are flash? It proves that you are mafia doing a terrible job at defending himself to me

how 'bout instead of saying my arguments are shit you debate them with arguments that don't rely on "I'm flash."
do it.

Pandain

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November 19 2010 02:57 GMT

#670

On November 19 2010 11:56 KtheZ wrote:

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it's better than tracker or doctor.

Ya, which is why I protected LSB night one, (unlike what glasse supposedly did.)
But I figured again, if they're going to try to convert me(because i guessed kenpachi), why would I just protected LSB for that 10% chance they'll actually try for him.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 02:58 GMT

#672

On November 19 2010 11:57 Glasse wrote:
you were pushing pretty hard that we should all defend lsb, which you did as a doctor on day 1. at day 2 it was even more vital that you protected him and you knew that, you would've protected him if you didnt get converted

Again, do you really think mafia would've tried to MC lsb despite the fact I had correctly guessed kenpachi and the fact it was even more obvious he was confirmed(thus more likely protection for him.)

my plan would work unless they were retarded.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 02:59 GMT

#673

Rofl was that really your argument?

Pandain

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November 19 2010 03:00 GMT

#675

I proved you wrong. Your argument relied on the falsity that mafia can't mc twice.
and most of my argument doesn't.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 03:02 GMT

#677

Restate your "proof" then.

Pandain

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November 19 2010 03:03 GMT

#679

On November 19 2010 12:02 Glasse wrote:

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give me a min to find it through the pile of crap you've been posting :3

Again, way to take a simple request and turn it into an insult at me.

And why would you need to find it? Don't you know it?

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 03:10 GMT

#681

Those who can't argue anymore often resort to insults...

And again, IT DOES NOT SAY THE ROLE YOU ARE WHEN YOU ARE CONVERTED
another misleading statement.

So again, KtheZ, why am I "confirmed mafia"

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 03:13 GMT

#683

Because this is another game.
Again, your using the same logic Ace did in insane mafia with the tracker/watcher stuff.

This is deondou's game.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 03:15 GMT

#685

Ace basically said to kitaman in insane mafia that his claim was false because his role of tracker was different from the normal role.
your using the same logic as him, when he was mafia.

Different game, different rules.
so again, kthez, why am i "confirmed mafia"

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 03:21 GMT

#686

Seeing as you have no more arguments, Glasse, you must realize that it comes down to what you fear:
Cold hard analysis. And I trust it will be on my side.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 03:23 GMT

#687

I expect two things:
1.KtheZ to unvote me, seeing as I'm not longer what glasse claims is "confirmed mafia"
2.Glasse to do an analysis on me, to show his side.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 03:26 GMT

#689

I'm fuckin spamming because I'm about to die.
And I always spam anyways, ask anyone. It's something I'm working on, but me about to die certainly doesn't help.

so is that your argument? The first sentence has been proven irrelevant, as that assumes I am lying. so circular reasoning, I'm lying because I'm lying.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 03:28 GMT

#691

Glasse, you said nothing in that post besides blatant wifom and unverifiable stuff. And then you say I'm trying to prove myself when I'm just laying out what we know.

And obviously there's no way to even know if you didn't send your night action or not.

so stop with that wifom crap.

Pandain

United States12989 Posts

November 19 2010 03:29 GMT

#692

Here, I was hacked during the time I posted there. I wasn't actually playing.

You see! I'm innocent!

(this is what I'm talking about...)