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Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 01:41 GMT
#436
Actually I think I misread your point. But still, in that scenario it would currently be 2 scum vs. 3 townies. But then by lynching me it would be even and they win.

Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 01:45 GMT
#440
Agreed LSB, and again, that just proves furthormore what shoudl be obvious by now, Glasse is frickin lying.

For example, I've shown that really the only two-three cases are either
1.Me and Coag are mafia(again, you did bring up he voted me pretty darn quick.)
2.Glasse is mafia alone or even
3.Glasse and Coag are mafia(coag protected glasse, glasse MCED him.)

Lynching Glasse is the safest choice in all of those, especially when you start to use your noggin .
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 01:46 GMT
#442
And coag unvote me.
at least give chance for discussion.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 01:47 GMT
#443
On November 18 2010 10:46 LSB wrote:
Okay to clear things up:

Glasse: Thank you for voting Coagulation
KtheZ: If you doub me, see this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=168344&currentpage=22#435
Coagulation: Sorry for lynching you, but as you can see, it's the best action for the town. If you would vote for yourself, that would be great.
Pandain: Remember case 1. Don't discount that.


But case one assumes they won't mind control anyone.

Its me or glasse guys.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 01:51 GMT
#446
On November 18 2010 10:48 Glasse wrote:
pandain if i could reach through my fucking screen and choke you i would
this is making me angry

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

PROVE why i would be mafia, mr. fake flash.
all you are saying right now isnt really proving anything, just trying to evade the fact that lsb obviously fucking proved you are mafia...




rofl keep saying blank statements without backing them up. Just helps me more

You've faked claimed poorly.
1.The Real shrink would never roleclaim so fast, knowing how important it is.
2. There was no reason not to protect LSB night 1 FOR YORU REASON(LSB is not confirmed) Since he was confirmed(no other tracker.)
3.There was no reason to say the Doctor should RNG, since mafia will probably do that as well(yeah right.)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 01:52 GMT
#449
On November 18 2010 10:49 LSB wrote:
Okay, to explain Case 1 a bit more to you.

Case one
Night two:
Coagulation saves Glasse
Glasse converts Coagulation
Kenpachi converts Pandain
Mafia hits Artanis[Xp]

What happens:
Coagulation is converted. Glasse is still alive.

See?


Exactly. This assumes Glasse is mafia.
Case 3, assumes glasse is mafia.
The Subsection of case 3 (with a 33% win rate) is lynching coag first, when lynching glasse first is the better choice.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 01:53 GMT
#451
On November 18 2010 10:52 LSB wrote:
Pandain. If you want analysis. This is why.

Yesterday I defended two people. You and Coagulation. The only reason why Doctor H backed off from attacking you two was because I hinted that I tracked them.

The mafia knows this two. But for some reason, out of you and coagulation, they choose to try to convert you.
This is because Coagulation was mafia. The Mafia knew that I didn't immediately come to the town and say I found a mafia. So they knew that I tracked you. That's why they tried to convert you.

Wait what. explain this more. I'm confused.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 01:54 GMT
#453
On November 18 2010 10:53 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:48 Glasse wrote:
pandain if i could reach through my fucking screen and choke you i would
this is making me angry

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

PROVE why i would be mafia, mr. fake flash.
all you are saying right now isnt really proving anything, just trying to evade the fact that lsb obviously fucking proved you are mafia...




rofl keep saying blank statements without backing them up. Just helps me more

You've faked claimed poorly.
1.The Real shrink would never roleclaim so fast, knowing how important it is.
2. There was no reason not to protect LSB night 1 FOR YORU REASON(LSB is not confirmed) Since he was confirmed(no other tracker.)
3.There was no reason to say the Doctor should RNG, since mafia will probably do that as well(yeah right.)

2. Actually there is every reason why not to protect me night 1.
The town plan was to protect me. So the mafia wouldn't hit me.
Therefore if glasse choose to protect someone else, he could basically be protecting two people.


But his reason for not protecting you was that you "were not confirmed." So that point is mute.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 01:55 GMT
#457
On November 18 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:48 Glasse wrote:
pandain if i could reach through my fucking screen and choke you i would
this is making me angry

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

PROVE why i would be mafia, mr. fake flash.
all you are saying right now isnt really proving anything, just trying to evade the fact that lsb obviously fucking proved you are mafia...




rofl keep saying blank statements without backing them up. Just helps me more

You've faked claimed poorly.
1.The Real shrink would never roleclaim so fast, knowing how important it is.
2. There was no reason not to protect LSB night 1 FOR YORU REASON(LSB is not confirmed) Since he was confirmed(no other tracker.)
3.There was no reason to say the Doctor should RNG, since mafia will probably do that as well(yeah right.)


dude you have played with me in 2 games before, you know i roleclaim quickly without really thinking about it.
i didnt think they'd shrink lsb night 1 since he was somewhat confirmed and should be protected, so i thought saving my life if they hit me would be better for the town
why shouldnt he rng? mafia probably rng'd as well, nobody knew shit almost

Now your changing your reasoning, you said he wasn't confirmed.
And why in the world would mafia RNG.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 01:55 GMT
#459
On November 18 2010 10:54 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:54 LSB wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:52 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:49 LSB wrote:
Okay, to explain Case 1 a bit more to you.

Case one
Night two:
Coagulation saves Glasse
Glasse converts Coagulation
Kenpachi converts Pandain
Mafia hits Artanis[Xp]

What happens:
Coagulation is converted. Glasse is still alive.

See?


Exactly. This assumes Glasse is mafia.
Case 3, assumes glasse is mafia.
The Subsection of case 3 (with a 33% win rate) is lynching coag first, when lynching glasse first is the better choice.

Subsection 2 is a 100% of loosing if we lynch coag first.

I'm not accepting that. Especially with your scummy analysis. I've even defended glasse a bit after facepalming at your accusations of him.

EDIT
Subsection 2 is a 100% of loosing if we lynch glasse first.

I'm not accepting that. Especially with your scummy analysis. I've even defended glasse a bit after facepalming at your accusations of him.


Subsection 2 of section 3, fyi.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:03 GMT
#463
I didn't catch you hinting you tracked me. Who says mafia did?

Playiing some mega mind games over there haha
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:03 GMT
#464
On November 18 2010 10:57 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 10:55 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:48 Glasse wrote:
pandain if i could reach through my fucking screen and choke you i would
this is making me angry

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

PROVE why i would be mafia, mr. fake flash.
all you are saying right now isnt really proving anything, just trying to evade the fact that lsb obviously fucking proved you are mafia...




rofl keep saying blank statements without backing them up. Just helps me more

You've faked claimed poorly.
1.The Real shrink would never roleclaim so fast, knowing how important it is.
2. There was no reason not to protect LSB night 1 FOR YORU REASON(LSB is not confirmed) Since he was confirmed(no other tracker.)
3.There was no reason to say the Doctor should RNG, since mafia will probably do that as well(yeah right.)


dude you have played with me in 2 games before, you know i roleclaim quickly without really thinking about it.
i didnt think they'd shrink lsb night 1 since he was somewhat confirmed and should be protected, so i thought saving my life if they hit me would be better for the town
why shouldnt he rng? mafia probably rng'd as well, nobody knew shit almost

Now your changing your reasoning, you said he wasn't confirmed.
And why in the world would mafia RNG.



wait i changed my reasoning? he wasnt confirmed. confirmed = 100%. there was still a chance the real detective didnt want to fall in the mafia trap. i feel like we are just going around in circle now because you can't bring anything up other than little meaningless changes(which are actually just different wording) in my arguments


Again, LSB WAS 100% confirmed.
Name one instance he could not be.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:05 GMT
#466
Glasse, so why, if your the real shrink, would you vote for a "possible mafia" when you, if you were the real shrink, would have found a "real mafia"(theoretical me.)
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:06 GMT
#469
On November 18 2010 11:05 Glasse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 11:03 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:57 Glasse wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:55 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:53 Glasse wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:51 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 10:48 Glasse wrote:
pandain if i could reach through my fucking screen and choke you i would
this is making me angry

ffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

PROVE why i would be mafia, mr. fake flash.
all you are saying right now isnt really proving anything, just trying to evade the fact that lsb obviously fucking proved you are mafia...




rofl keep saying blank statements without backing them up. Just helps me more

You've faked claimed poorly.
1.The Real shrink would never roleclaim so fast, knowing how important it is.
2. There was no reason not to protect LSB night 1 FOR YORU REASON(LSB is not confirmed) Since he was confirmed(no other tracker.)
3.There was no reason to say the Doctor should RNG, since mafia will probably do that as well(yeah right.)


dude you have played with me in 2 games before, you know i roleclaim quickly without really thinking about it.
i didnt think they'd shrink lsb night 1 since he was somewhat confirmed and should be protected, so i thought saving my life if they hit me would be better for the town
why shouldnt he rng? mafia probably rng'd as well, nobody knew shit almost

Now your changing your reasoning, you said he wasn't confirmed.
And why in the world would mafia RNG.



wait i changed my reasoning? he wasnt confirmed. confirmed = 100%. there was still a chance the real detective didnt want to fall in the mafia trap. i feel like we are just going around in circle now because you can't bring anything up other than little meaningless changes(which are actually just different wording) in my arguments


Again, LSB WAS 100% confirmed.
Name one instance he could not be.


lets say he claimed, the real stork didnt want to claim incase he would fall in a mafia trap, he could have been mafia


Why would the real stork not claim?
We would have gotten a mafia.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:07 GMT
#471
On November 18 2010 11:05 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 11:03 Pandain wrote:
I didn't catch you hinting you tracked me. Who says mafia did?

Playiing some mega mind games over there haha

Pandain, you have much to learn .

Check out DoctorH's recent game if you want to figure out meta and other stuff.


Do you really think Glasse/kenpachi would have thought of that?
Or even coag/kenpachi?
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:09 GMT
#473
On November 18 2010 11:08 LSB wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 18 2010 11:07 Pandain wrote:
On November 18 2010 11:05 LSB wrote:
On November 18 2010 11:03 Pandain wrote:
I didn't catch you hinting you tracked me. Who says mafia did?

Playiing some mega mind games over there haha

Pandain, you have much to learn .

Check out DoctorH's recent game if you want to figure out meta and other stuff.


Do you really think Glasse/kenpachi would have thought of that?
Or even coag/kenpachi?

Glasse's play in Insane was perfect.
Town wouldn't lynch him
Mafia wouldn't waste a kill on him


Not to be rude, and sure I gues his play fit that, but I don't think that suggests a higher learning in the ways of mafia, especially in meta.

Being able to be annoying(no offense, it was funny sometimes!) =/= Being amazing at mafia.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:12 GMT
#476
So you didn't protect LSB, because you thought the "real tracker" was afraid to claim because he was afraid he would actually have to prove he was the real one(still at least a 50% chance), despite the fact then immediately we would know the other mafia.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:15 GMT
#478
Here, this is getting a bit agressive, and spammy.
How' bout I just make a big post later listing all the reasons why I think I can sufficently prove yoru fake, and then you can attempt to argue against them.
I'll do it tommorow since its roughly 9:15 pm here.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:18 GMT
#480
I'll respond to this LSB. And sure, I'm even thinking about lynching coag.
Would you rather have a chance at instant victory and instant loss?
Or leave it to pure chance?

That's why I'm favoring just settling it between me and Glasse, and using analysis to decide between them, rather than the wifom I would have to use if we lynch Coag.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
November 18 2010 02:23 GMT
#485
On November 18 2010 11:18 Pandain wrote:
I'll respond to this LSB. And sure, I'm even thinking about lynching coag.
Would you rather have a chance at instant victory and instant loss?
Or leave it to pure chance?

That's why I'm favoring just settling it between me and Glasse, and using analysis to decide between them, rather than the wifom I would have to use if we lynch Coag.

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