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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 22 2010 06:39 GMT
#60
/in. Or put me on the replacement list!
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 28 2010 22:38 GMT
#104
Ok, do we know how Murrayitis works? Is it the same as a mafia shot, cause I would suspect not.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2010 00:39 GMT
#157
On October 29 2010 09:37 NB wrote:
my opinion on who should get to be major:
if Mr.A is major, after that night he still survive => he must be mafia => got lynched on the next day
in another word voting for major is like voting for someone who should die in the next day.
Noticed that if the major is just town, Mafia could easily kill him on day 1 no problem :3....

Also i wana confirm: after 1 major die, could we vote for a new one or we just move on without 1?... i love the idea of voting for a new one.


I'm pretty sure mafia can't kill mayor until the bodygaurds are dead. However, the mayor can be lynched.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2010 00:47 GMT
#162
Along with buma, keep in mind that this is not a typical mafia game. Read your PM role carefully to make sure there isn't something different about youre role and a typical mafia game role.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2010 01:02 GMT
#178
Since we're all blue (well, the town is), won't it be difficult for the mafia to know who to focus down, esp since they don't even know what roles there are? I'm just questioning since even if you role claim, it doesn't really do anything bad for the town.

I'd actually argue the other way. If we all role claim, we are able to check what other people do during the night action and see if it fits into their role. Also, the mafia won't know what roles there are, so their going to have to make their roles up. The biggest flaw in this is that then, the mafia will know what roles there are and who they are, but if we are able to weed the mafia out fast enough, its an easy town victory.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2010 01:05 GMT
#180
On murrayitis: One of my biggest concerns is that murrayitis is "highly contagious" (according to Artanis post). This suggests that if you are infected, any night action you do that involves going somewhere else will probably infect that other person.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2010 01:12 GMT
#184
Ok, so this is how I think mafia kp is set up- mafia can hit 2 people normally, just like any regular mafia game. then, there is one mafia member who can infect 1 person with murrayitis.

I'm a bit confused on your earlier post on murrayitis. So is it that once infected, the person dies the next night, kind of like the poison from a poisoner?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2010 01:13 GMT
#185
God dang it. DH beats me in everything...
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2010 01:38 GMT
#195
Pandain, what can you provide as the mayor that you couldn't provide as what you are now?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2010 01:43 GMT
#198
So I only heard from DH about the mass roleclaiming idea. To me, I feel that its more advantagious to the town than it is disadvantagious, but I want to hear from more of you guys about it.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 29 2010 02:02 GMT
#202
Now that I think about it, I'm more unsure about the mass roleclaiming thing I suggested. My main concern is that there isn't a concrete way to confirm anyone. And, as Fishball stated, nothing is preventing the mafia from making roles up that have passive abilities, or claim vigi.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 30 2010 04:23 GMT
#733
Ok, after reading through the thread, I'm leaning towards voting for DrH, and will vote for him as of right now.

1. If DrH is mafia, it will be able to tell. He provides so much about his role that its impossible to retract, or even fit under the role while being mafia.
If we believe everything that DrH said, he is able to coordinate town. Although he may not be able to PM, if there is a role that allows for the extension of PMing (masons?), he can coordinate even better.
It might even be good that DrH can't PM- everything he does will be done in this thread, and he can be closely examined.

(The only concern I have is that DrH is pretty good at manipulation- but I feel that he won't be able to backtrack what he said, and it will be easy to find inconsistencies in his posts)

2. There may as well be a doctor (or even better, a plague doctor) in the circle to protect him, which will basically provide the same thing as bodyguards.
If Fishball is mafia, he already has a lot of power. He can manipulate the circle probably really easily, esp since according to him, the majority is inactive, and if they decide to come back, it is easy for them just to listen to Fishball and do whatever he says.
We don't know what Fishball can do. He claims his role is of utmost importance, but isn't able to tell us what that role actually is.


3. I feel that Pandain won't be able to provide anything as mayor. He hasn't put out a plan yet; and probably can't do anything proactive with his role.
As people stated earlier, Pandain is transparent. Which is good to check on Pandain, but would be a waste of a Mayor.
Hes not the best scum hunter I've ever known... I'll leave it like that.
The only reason I'd even consider voting for Pandain is if I was a super afraid person of experienced players that are mafia taking the mayor role.



People I'm concerned with:
Coagulation- I don't think I've read a good post by him yet.
Glasse- comes out of nowhere, and states that he can't be killed? And tries to take the mayor role? Why would anyone with the role of being not able to be killed want even more protection?
Ace- Well, I don't really have anything against him. It's just that I've never seen him play, but I've heard hes good and hes a veteran player- so I'm wary.


Circle Claiming-
I don't think the circle should claim to the thread yet; I don't really think I have a reason on this, except that I feel that its risky. If this circle is pure town- its the only form of communication town has that is known right now. Giving mafia the members makes it easy to break the circle up.
One thing to consider though- It's very likely that mafia is in this circle, so other mafia will know who is in this circle and what they are talking about. This gives an advantage to the mafia. The mafia knows whos in the circle and the town doesn't, that sets the town really behind because the town won't know who is able to PM etc.


Hopefully this is enough to only have 1 post today (in real life time)...
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 30 2010 06:56 GMT
#824
I'm taking my vote off of DrH and putting it on Fishball.
After all the WIFOM talk, theres one more thing to consider. If DrH was mafia, he could claim that he poked another mafia player, who has the ability to detect who follows him. So when the plague doctors go to "confirm" DrH, mafia is getting a list of all of the plague doctors.
Fishball seems less dangerous compared to what DrH can do if hes mafia. Fishball has to be able to stay consistent in the PMs in the circle and in the thread, and we will be able to check on him in two ways, especially with his activity level.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2010 01:29 GMT
#1130
Well, if youngminii survived the lynch... I would say that he needs to roleclaim or we get a dt to check him. If its a blue role that avoids lynching- he needs to say so now and I feel a complete roleclaim is necessary from him. And even if he says hes blue- dt should check him.
Him being mafia would probably be a bit OP since then the only way that young could die would be by vig hit or another town KP role (unless he can only avoid lynching once...)- either way, young should be scrutinized.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2010 01:33 GMT
#1132
Is the bodygaurd's only extra function to prevent any mafia hits on the mayor?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2010 14:23 GMT
#1231
But youngminii knows why he didn't get lynched, right? Wouldn't it be more benefitial to the town if young told us if this was a one time thing or a permanent thing for avoiding a lynch? If he doesn't tell us, town lacks the information, and because of how young has been posting, we may consider another day to lynch him. But that would be a waste of time if young is immune. I'd say young is most likely mafia if he doesn't answer whether or not this was one time or permanent or multiple.

So young, how often can you dodge a lynch (one time, multiple times, permanently, etc.)?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2010 16:19 GMT
#1243
I'm pretty sure that DC didn't roleclaim bodygaurd. I think his role has something to do with knowing what each role does; at least that was what I got out of it. Maybe he is bodygaurd, but I'm pretty sure DC is smart enough to spoil it to the mafia.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2010 22:37 GMT
#1369
@Ace
I didn't try fishing out his entire role. I am just seeing if he knows if he can dodge lynches, and if so how many. I thought it was beneficial to town, as we would understand more of the game mechanics + reason why the young lynch didn't go through + future reference if we decide to lynch young again.
That being said, I'm not afraid of being checked. I would almost encourage it.

@Lexpar's post
Hmmm... Everyone is negative about this post, and so am I. But maybe its part of his role; or something happened between the two. Pretty much unlikely, as that would mean that his role is able to PM or that his role is shown to the mayor, but its insane mafia. Clarify please, Lexpar,
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2010 23:34 GMT
#1460
On November 01 2010 08:29 Node wrote:
I'm mostly worried about the presence of a suicide bomber in the game, but I suppose I can't do much else seeing as I'm not in a PM circle.

DCLXVI is going to die tonight.


Is this for certain? Do you know how hes going to die? Is it possible for a doctor or a medic or whatever role its called in this game to protect him so he doesn't die?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2010 23:49 GMT
#1481
So three people died tonight, Remember that one post of Artanis where he said that mafia has 2+1 KP? That must mean that mafia had access to that extra 1 KP. Whether or not that can be accessed every day, we do not know (it might be that they can only have extra every other day or something like that), but maybe we can find out what role that gains that extra 1 KP. I think its the Giant Potato, but its hard to tell in the night post.

On November 01 2010 08:19 infinitestory wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:10 LSB wrote:
During the night, hardly anyone can sleep. It wasn't just all the trick or treaters, everyone was busy doing something.

One poor dude? He arrived at the wrong person’s home (some idiot kidnapped the people) and proceeded to become gagged and tied up. As he staggered around looking for help, another person decided to take his clothes, and replace them with a weird smelling rag. At least other people came and helped him, after prodding him for two hours. That poor guy

Annul decided to stalk his favorite person. However, after he put on his black clothes, black mask, and black gloves. Someone helped him by wrapping a black scarf around his neck. Killing him.
Afterwards a completely different person arrived, played on the tire swing for a while, and left.



I'm pretty sure both bolded parts are the describing Annul and his death. So someone switched places with him (kidnapped?). I think we have to be careful of the guy who switched places with him. If we get any references to similar activities between one person and Annul, we can almost gaurantee that that person is mafia.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
October 31 2010 23:54 GMT
#1491
@Node
Why were you informed that BB would die so late last cycle, but now you are informed that DXC is going to die so early in this cycle?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 00:01 GMT
#1499
On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing


not very smart


If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up.

If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well:
if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits

this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really.

since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it?


Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/
I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 00:08 GMT
#1505
On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing


not very smart


If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up.

If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well:
if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits

this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really.

since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it?


Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/
I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death.


what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get


First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 00:17 GMT
#1512
On November 01 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 09:08 Misder wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing


not very smart


If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up.

If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well:
if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits

this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really.

since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it?


Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/
I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death.


what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get


First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this.


Everything points to DXC being town in this case. No I don't know 100% that he is town. But if Node is telling the truth it seems the people dying are blues, not reds. If Node is a mafia lying about his role it doesn't make sense for them to single out red targets, it doesn't set up a possible play for the mafia in all likelihood (unless there is a mafia role that kills other mafia)

What is risky? Not having DXC die?


The risk that it may be a set up by the mafia (less likely now, discussed later in the post). And that it would be a waste (remember, his role says that DXC is going to die, which implies that there is no way to save him).
Note that I wrote my post before I read Node's latest posts. So Node seems to be hinting that there is a list that the mods have that kills people one by one. Quickstriker was first, then BB, then DXC. This seems like a random list, as Quickstricker was inactive and not a target that mafia would want to kill, and BB was pretty inactive too and also not a target that mafia would want to kill. DXC is someone that mafia would want to kill as he softclaimed bodygaurd, but if we follow the pattern, it isn't the mafia that chooses this list. This also implies that Node is town, and isn't setting this up.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 00:20 GMT
#1514
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 00:25 GMT
#1522
On November 01 2010 09:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 09:17 infinitestory wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:08 Misder wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing


not very smart


If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up.

If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well:
if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits

this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really.

since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it?


Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/
I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death.


what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get


First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this.


Everything points to DXC being town in this case. No I don't know 100% that he is town. But if Node is telling the truth it seems the people dying are blues, not reds. If Node is a mafia lying about his role it doesn't make sense for them to single out red targets, it doesn't set up a possible play for the mafia in all likelihood (unless there is a mafia role that kills other mafia)

What is risky? Not having DXC die?


Everything points to DC being town, except:
1) he softclaimed bodyguard (by correcting Artanis on the definition, no less), when there was no good reason to do so. He then pretty much said it was intentional by saying "Artanis just confirmed my role." There's no good reason to do this as a townie.
2) He softclaimed bodyguard, and a (the only?) bodyguard just died.


His softclaim of bodyguard has yet to be confirmed by him. If he has a reason to do it as a townie I'd like him to tell us. He certainly has explaining to do, as well as Aeres, considering Annul was a bodyguard.

Show nested quote +
On November 01 2010 09:17 Misder wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:10 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:08 Misder wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:01 Misder wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:57 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 08:53 Glasse wrote:
Yea but now that our medics are suspicious of him he could easily waste his life on a single worthless blue(there has to be some stupid roles that don't do anything) for nothing


not very smart


If he isn't suicide bomber he could simply be trying to set the bomber up.

If mafia thinks we aren't going to send blues at the target Node set up then they just kill him confirming his "role". A win/win situation for mafia. Consider this as well:
if he is mafia he would obviously know the alignment of every player (who is red and who is blue), keeping the targets he picks who will die that night blue in every case keeping up the illusion that he is predicting mafia hits

this is a very easy role to fake for mafia. too easy really.

since you've already claimed node why not just tell us the name of it?


Adding on to this, it may even be a ploy to get medics (im just gonna call them that from now on) to protect DXC in which somehow the mafia members find out the doctors :/
I suggest that no one protect DXC and we find out tonight what causes his death. Theres got to be a cooralation between BB death and DXC death.


what makes you think that would let us find out what caused his death? that's just an excuse for letting a town player die for the sake of information we might not get


First of all, you don't even know that DXC is town. We don't even know if we can actually protect DXC. Even worse, if mafia set it up so that there is a bomb placed there that night which kills everyone that visits him, that would be detrimental. Ok, maybe we won't be able to determine the cause of the deaths, esp since there are no clues (I forgot about that). But to me, it just seems to risky. We have no info. We suspect that Node could be faking his role. I'm even thinking that the +1 KP comes from a predetermined mafia kill at the start of the day, and that if Node is mafia, he would know about this.


Everything points to DXC being town in this case. No I don't know 100% that he is town. But if Node is telling the truth it seems the people dying are blues, not reds. If Node is a mafia lying about his role it doesn't make sense for them to single out red targets, it doesn't set up a possible play for the mafia in all likelihood (unless there is a mafia role that kills other mafia)

What is risky? Not having DXC die?


The risk that it may be a set up by the mafia (less likely now, discussed later in the post). And that it would be a waste (remember, his role says that DXC is going to die, which implies that there is no way to save him).
Note that I wrote my post before I read Node's latest posts. So Node seems to be hinting that there is a list that the mods have that kills people one by one. Quickstriker was first, then BB, then DXC. This seems like a random list, as Quickstricker was inactive and not a target that mafia would want to kill, and BB was pretty inactive too and also not a target that mafia would want to kill. DXC is someone that mafia would want to kill as he softclaimed bodygaurd, but if we follow the pattern, it isn't the mafia that chooses this list. This also implies that Node is town, and isn't setting this up.


I feel that he is likely town. Considering the potential danger of his role if he is mafia it's best to keep an eye on his posts closely, but I don't have any strong suspicions about him and I think his response to my initial proposition of the possibility that he could be mafia was fairly strong.

It could be an RNG'd list but I feel like it might be some sort of conditional kill. BrownBear's death said "he died for being good" that seems important to me and makes it seem unlikely that he was killed purely randomly.


About the list- how can it be conditional? If everything Node says is true... then BB was "next in line". Unless its based on # of posts or when they post, then the mods wouldn't have been able to choose the next target on the list cause they can't predict the future actions.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 00:29 GMT
#1529
On November 01 2010 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
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On November 01 2010 09:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town?


Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me.


Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet...

I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game.

On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis.


I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked.


Did you receive any other night actions?

Something stopped my poke from going through to jcarlsoniv.


This is not unlikely. Mafia knew that DH was going to try to confirm himself tonight by night action. So if there is a roleblocker in the game, mafia would probably make the easy decision to block him.
On the other hand, DH is still not confirmed...
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 00:31 GMT
#1533
On November 01 2010 09:27 Lexpar wrote:
I think that because I'm alive. I am therefore I think?

We can trust DocH. We should work with him.


Any reason for this?
DH, do you know the role of Lexpar?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 00:40 GMT
#1539
On November 01 2010 09:29 Aeres wrote:
Just saw this in the voting thread:

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On November 01 2010 09:27 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Day 2
Jcarlsoniv: 1
Elder Vote


Nice. Now we should make a list of who posted since night.
Aeres
NB
Glasse
DH
infinitestory
kitaman
Node
Pandain
deconduo
Meapak
ghrur
Lexpar
cubEdln
Ace
Fishball
jcarls
Misder

This list is long, and probably useless as the person can not post and PM Artanis/LSB but someone has something against jcarls. Is Elder a confirmed town, or could a mafia have that role?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 00:41 GMT
#1542
On November 01 2010 09:35 Ace wrote:
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On November 01 2010 09:31 Misder wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:27 Lexpar wrote:
I think that because I'm alive. I am therefore I think?

We can trust DocH. We should work with him.


Any reason for this?
DH, do you know the role of Lexpar?


I think Lexpar might have something that can detect if the Mayor is scum?


I don't think thats right, since how can he detect it if he is dead? And whats preventing mafia from killing Lexpar Night 2 which would trigger the catalyst of detection?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 01:20 GMT
#1561
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On November 01 2010 10:17 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 07:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
you'll see very soon that the information I'm providing will be beneficial to the town and we'll see real results in numbers. I can back this up.


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On October 30 2010 07:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
there are other things to my power that will prove beyond any doubt that I am a pro-town player. they may not take affect immediately but everything will be quite clear when I am elected and roleclaim


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On October 30 2010 06:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
did you even read the thread? i am going to prove that I am my blue role as soon as I am elected.


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On October 30 2010 09:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I can demonstrate my role is exactly what it is one I am able to use it. If this is not the case then feel free to lynch me.


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On October 30 2010 09:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why does that make you nervous? I can prove to the entire town that I am town aligned. If I don't do that, simply lynch me.


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On October 30 2010 09:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I am saying I am 100% able to prove I have a not scummy role and if I am found in any way to be lying, the town can lynch me. You don't have to take me at my word but this is a huge gambit I'm taking with a very small payoff if I am mafia.


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On October 30 2010 06:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm the only candidate aside from node who is claiming to offer 100% proof that I am not mafia when I'm elected, just saying





As much as I think Coagulation is scummy, he does have a point...
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 02:38 GMT
#1624
My analysis on Coagulation
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On October 22 2010 18:27 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 21 2010 16:14 orgolove wrote:
One thing. How the heck will you know if we PM or not? Aren't even mods not allowed to see people's PM's?



mods can see pms btw

Info that doesn’t pertain to the actual game.

On October 29 2010 11:21 Coagulation wrote:
Hi guys.

im torn between voting for Bumatlarge or Pandain for mayor!



No info on why he thinks both are equal. And I think this was when there was only two major candidates anyways.

On October 29 2010 12:44 Coagulation wrote:
bumatlarge. as a campaigning candidate for mayor what is your political stance on bandwagoning
are you pro Bandwagon
or Anti bandwagon

plz explain

Question that I don’t think actually matters for a mayor. It’s not like the mayor can start a bandwagon. And he doesn’t explain why this is crucial to his decision. And he doesn’t even ask Pandain the question, his other candidate that he’s considering to vote.

On October 29 2010 18:52 Coagulation wrote:
maybe im missing something but if fishball is in a town circle like he claims he is and this town circle has no security from reds at the moment why would we want him elected mayor. doesnt his town circle just greatly increase the chances of scum influence on the town.

like we vote for Bum or pandain there is a 1 in 39 chance of mafia influenced mayor
we vote for fishball there is a 7 in 39 chance of mafia influenced mayor


This post may have some substance, as he now has a stance against fishball. However, as kingjames pointed out right after this post, his math is wrong (as in hes assuming that everything is random).

On October 29 2010 20:42 Coagulation wrote:
ok i understand what your saying but there is still a higher chance of mafia gaining influence through fishball being elected as mayor

isnt his "circle" about as relevant as the general town circle at this point? considering he has no idea what the alignment of his circle members are. also we have no idea if he even has a circle.
is there even a way we can verify this before the vote??

It just seems to me like an unnecessary security breach for mayor.
why risk voting up to 7 scum into power when we can play the odds and take a much safer route of voting 1.

Continuing the same thing as the post above. Again, he tries to make a point. Flawed, as jcarls points out the post after, but its something at least.

On October 29 2010 23:52 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 29 2010 23:04 Fishball wrote:
On October 29 2010 20:42 Coagulation wrote:
ok i understand what your saying but there is still a higher chance of mafia gaining influence through fishball being elected as mayor

isnt his "circle" about as relevant as the general town circle at this point? considering he has no idea what the alignment of his circle members are. also we have no idea if he even has a circle.
is there even a way we can verify this before the vote??

It just seems to me like an unnecessary security breach for mayor.
why risk voting up to 7 scum into power when we can play the odds and take a much safer route of voting 1.


I DO NOT HAVE A TOWN CIRCLE.

Where the hell does this come from? Since after Ace starting using this term.
I repeat, we have a pre-made CIRCLE. People in this circle DOES NOT KNOW each other's role or alignment.



re-read my post. I referred to your circle ONLY as "circle" I am well aware that you dont have a town circle that was the whole basis of my post.

Defends himself. And he is correct that Fishball was overreacting.

On October 30 2010 00:07 Coagulation wrote:
How about instead of blowing up about imaginary references to your CIRCLE in my post you answer the question that you completely avoided.

why would we want to risk a chance of 7 people possibly being scum manipulating town with mayor when we can go with the much safer odds of only 1 person possibly being scum.


Same question as before. jcarls answered this as stated before.

On October 30 2010 00:12 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 00:06 annul wrote:
(dark background, wispy white smoke, dramatic thunderclaps and epic scary voiceovers)


pandain? (*bad picture of pandain roaring like a panda bear*) whaddanub! i hear lying as town is pro.

bumatlarge? (*bad picture of bumatlarge flashing fangs and raging against chains on a wall*) whaddanub! i hear dying night 1 as the suicide bomber is a pro move.

fishball? (*bad picture of a fish out of water*) whaddanub! who the hell names themself fishball?

is this who you want to lead your town?

(shift to a light background, with sunlight and sun rays, blue sky. dramatic music suddenly shifting to great happy tunes (think of the polyphonic spree) and the voiceover changes to that hot asian girl who did map voiceovers for MLG)

annul? (*good picture of annul flexing and the light shining off of his body, halo-style*) whaddapro! he knows how to lead towns! also, this time he is actually town and actually wants mayor for good reasons! annul wouldn't be so bold as to try the same strategy twice in a row, especially starting on day 1, unless he had a great plan, with bold leadership, to deliver the town to massive victory! annul's active, reading every post and playing the game as it should be played. a vote for annul is a vote for victory!


(imagery shifts one last time to a side-view shot of annul at his keyboard, head-turned and smiling, legs crossed, in full dress wizard robes (think: "business suit" of the wizarding world))

im annul v. and i support this message


i know i shouldnt base previous exploits from previous games on a fresh game but i honestly feel you have a snowballs chance in hell of being elected after Halloween mafia..

Starts basing things off of a previous mafia game. This was before the mod warning, but still…

On October 30 2010 00:26 Coagulation wrote:
We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.

pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.

i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red.


Makes a stance on his choice of mayor. Yay.

On October 30 2010 00:32 Coagulation wrote:
I think it would be in towns best interest to avoid placing an extremely skilled manipulator such as annul in the mayor seat when he could potentially be a red.

Consistent from what I’m assuming. I don’t know what happened in the previous mafia game, but I assume that annul did some crazy manipulation. Although annul is one of the newer players of mafia, he may be good at mafia in the eyes of Coagulation.

On October 30 2010 00:34 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 00:30 CubEdIn wrote:
Do we HAVE to vote for a mayor? I don't like all these arguments.


Can we worry about the more pressing issue? Meaning, who dies in the day1 lynching?


yeah i honestly feel like i dont trust ANYONE that wants to be mayor..

No reasoning behind this statement. Why not trust Pandain who you defended, or buma, who you also were considering?

On October 30 2010 00:40 Coagulation wrote:
doesn't the mayor choose day 1 lynch??

Question that was answered before. That’s ok once in a while.

On October 30 2010 01:35 Coagulation wrote:
wait whos jerkin off smurfs?

An irrelevant post.

On October 30 2010 01:55 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 01:44 Fishball wrote:
On October 30 2010 00:07 Coagulation wrote:
How about instead of blowing up about imaginary references to your CIRCLE in my post you answer the question that you completely avoided.

why would we want to risk a chance of 7 people possibly being scum manipulating town with mayor when we can go with the much safer odds of only 1 person possibly being scum.



I'm at work. I answer what I can given the time that I have, but I have always come back and address the rest. This is not dodging. People who have played with me in previous games will know.

I think you meant 6 people, as I said there are only 6 people in this group. Now why would Mafia include 6 of their 9 buddies in this circle? Why 6? Not 3, not 4, but 6?
Assume what you say is true, all 6 of us are Mafia, how exactly would we "manipulate" town? What stops the other solo Mayor and his "non-circle" buddies to manipulate town? Different scenario, but the outcome can very well be the same.

Everyone can debate about the "truth", but no one can argue about that fact that I did offer information, and I want/need protection. With me being Mayor, doesn't make me a dictator. I still need the help of the town to provide valuable input.



im not saying there are 6 mafia in your circle as opposed to any other number im just saying there are 6 ''chances'' that mafia are in your circle as opposed to there only being 1 chance of a mafia getting voted in as mayor if we elect someone outside your circle.

there are alot of scenarios obviously that can play out but i just want everyone to understand that there is an added risk to you being mayor. as for whether your ability as mayor + your plan with your circle outweigh those risk's is up for debate.

my problem is this. If we elect you as mayor.. you will have communications with people outside of this thread(pm) that will influence the game and could be extremely vital to scum hunting.

I would rather have a mayor that has transparency.. any communications he makes will be public so we can keep an eye on him.



More on the circle. Surprisingly, I think it’s good input, and consistent.

On October 30 2010 02:44 Coagulation wrote:
may, may not, in fact, almost certainly

well you got the politician thing down perfectly.


Unimportant post.

On October 30 2010 06:15 Coagulation wrote:
Doc you are all over the place with votes man
I will think about voting for you because i think you are very experienced however
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On October 30 2010 00:26 Coagulation wrote:
We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.

pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.

i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red.


I feel like if DocH Is a red we would never know.

Inconsistency here. DH is the one of the better manipulators in mafia… This basically contradicts his post. Neither does he say why being experience outweighs being manipulative, esp. since he totally put down Fishball, an even more experienced player.

On October 30 2010 07:08 Coagulation wrote:
How do we know the person who is "verifying" your confirmation of your role isnt just a Scumbuddy of yours?

Good question, assuming this is directed towards DH.

On October 30 2010 07:10 Coagulation wrote:
Maybe Godfather Will verify so no one can DT check him properly
thats possible right?

Again, good question.

On October 30 2010 07:27 Coagulation wrote:
DocH You basically said YOU WILL PROVE your town and then basically said "MAYBE DEPENDING ON WHAT HAPPENS I WILL PROVE IT IM NOT SURE"

I dont think pandain would be the greatest mayor
However
i would rather pandain then Annul and his manipulation if he is RED
and i would rather pandain then fishbowl and his "EXTREMELY SHY?? circle"
I would really really like for you to make me feel comfortable voting for you for mayor. but your doing a bad job so far.

Makes a good point on DH’s campaign. Completely didn’t compare Pandain with buma though (don’t know if this was before buma said hes going to retract his candidacy)

On October 30 2010 07:29 Coagulation wrote:
FISHBOWL =FISHBALL Sorry. Wheres This guys circle at?? wouldnt they claim by now??

Poses a question, and not a bad one.

On October 30 2010 08:07 Coagulation wrote:
Because hes not trying really really super hard to be mayor i figure hes just a good honest townie offering to take the spot and do his best.

you guys are gonna start tearing each other to shreds over the role makes me think you got something else going on.


On October 30 2010 08:09 Coagulation wrote:
actually to be honest i would rather we nominate ACE OR ANYONE that isnt TRYING to be mayor

Kinda consistent to what hes saying before. Although I feel that Ace would be as manipulative as annul…

On October 30 2010 09:42 Coagulation wrote:


DocH
Anyone that doesn't fucking vote for you must be scum?
Are you fucking serious ?

i voted for Pandain because it was a choice between Him And Fishball at the time (bum withdrew his candidacy before i voted or I would have voted him for my placeholder instead of pandain)
I posted many reasons why i chose pandain over fishball MANY Logical reasons.
i will repost them for you ****This was before you had decided to run for mayor

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On October 30 2010 01:55 Coagulation wrote:
On October 30 2010 01:44 Fishball wrote:
On October 30 2010 00:07 Coagulation wrote:
How about instead of blowing up about imaginary references to your CIRCLE in my post you answer the question that you completely avoided.

why would we want to risk a chance of 7 people possibly being scum manipulating town with mayor when we can go with the much safer odds of only 1 person possibly being scum.



I'm at work. I answer what I can given the time that I have, but I have always come back and address the rest. This is not dodging. People who have played with me in previous games will know.

I think you meant 6 people, as I said there are only 6 people in this group. Now why would Mafia include 6 of their 9 buddies in this circle? Why 6? Not 3, not 4, but 6?
Assume what you say is true, all 6 of us are Mafia, how exactly would we "manipulate" town? What stops the other solo Mayor and his "non-circle" buddies to manipulate town? Different scenario, but the outcome can very well be the same.

Everyone can debate about the "truth", but no one can argue about that fact that I did offer information, and I want/need protection. With me being Mayor, doesn't make me a dictator. I still need the help of the town to provide valuable input.




I would rather have a mayor that has transparency.. any communications he makes will be public so we can keep an eye on him.




Is that not a reasonable reason considering the two choices?? maybe not the greatest reason but I FEEL CONFIDENT we are not getting FUCKED BEHIND OUR BACKS.

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On October 30 2010 00:26 Coagulation wrote:
We need someone who is good at mafia but terrible at manipulation.

pandain is probably the best candidate under these parameters. he is an extremely organized and tactical scum hunter his analyses skills are good and he has a good level head about what needs to be done.

i have also noticed that he is a terrible lier and his posting style makes his motives extremely transparent. this would make it much easier for us to spot a slip up if he is mafia. and greatly increases the chances that he would fail at getting away with scum moves if it turns out he is a red.



Is that not a reasonable reason?? YOU SAID THE SAME THING EARLIER.

Now i am sticking with pandain because he is most likely not a red trying to gain control of town based on the fact that he is not campaigning relentlessly.


Pandain is more then capable of using what tools he has at his disposal to help coordinate a good town strategy and i doubt he would run for mayor if he thought his role wasnt capable of contributing greatly as mayor.. and I FEEL HE is the most TRUSTWORTHY candidate so far BASED ON HIS ACTIONS IN THIS GAME. I Dont get the same feeling from you when your Threatening "FOS" On anyone that doesnt vote you..


IM NOT VOTING on WHOS PROMISING SOME BULLSHIT IF THEY GET MAYOR (town circle?? where??)
IM VOTING ON WHO I TRUST THE MOST IN MY GUT

IS THAT REASON ENOUGH?




Gets a bit mad in this post. However, I don’t think this is a bad thing. He’s strong and on the offensive.

On October 30 2010 10:43 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 10:38 ghrur wrote:
On October 30 2010 10:33 Pandain wrote:
*sigh*
Pandain:
1. I can prove I'm legit if elected.
2.I'm apparently very transparent
3.Relies on open discussion and debate.
Dr. H:
1.Can prove he's legit if elected
2.Is not transparent, is a master mafioso and a mayer Dr. H I would fear above all
3. Relies on secret pm circles which can easily be infiltrated. Same problem goes with Fishball, they would spend days trying to find mafia which might not even exist.

DTS should check mayoral canidates, most likely to find a mafia(at least one mafia must've run, else they're just handing us the game on a platter.)

Since so many people claimed valuable roles while running for election, those people must be at the top of the priority list for medic protection. And as of now, Fishball's "circle" hasn't said anything, so I'm beginning to become highly suscipcious of Fishball.

Again, if you are in Fishball's circle, say so now. You don't have to say your role or anything, just say if you are. If no one does, I am going to lynch Fishball day 1.


You can prove you're legit if you're elected?
How?


i think mayor can be dt checked.
dont quote me tho

Puts his input, but not sure about it. He could have just asked the question to the mod. But made an extra post saying basically nothing.

On October 30 2010 11:28 Coagulation wrote:
dr h and pandain it would be nice if you guys could talk about something relevent to the town and disregard this little pissing contest you guys have going on right now.

Wants to clean up the thread. Kinda funny since he has made some irrelevant posts himself.

On October 30 2010 11:40 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 11:18 Artanis[Xp] wrote:

Also, it'd be great if we could get a few more people on the replacement list. If you're following the game and want to be on it, please PM me.


I dont know why anyone in their right fucking mind following this shit storm would want to join in.

Irrelevant to the game.

On October 30 2010 12:24 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 12:20 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:18 infinitestory wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:16 Glasse wrote:
On October 30 2010 12:13 NB wrote:
so we have 3 main candidates: Panda, dish, doctor... Who of you will promise to protect me from scums? :3


I will protect you as i can't be killed during the game!. I will always be there for you! Vote for me!


wait, WHAT?


You heard it, even god would not be able to kill me!


this sounds legit.

Post that isn’t needed.

On October 30 2010 13:18 Coagulation wrote:
why are you responding to it?
just wondering.. obviously hes just fucking around.

Inconsistent again. He himself responded to Glasse.

On October 30 2010 14:20 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 14:05 kingjames01 wrote:
On October 30 2010 13:56 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On October 30 2010 13:55 kingjames01 wrote:
On October 30 2010 13:51 infinitestory wrote:
Just thought of another way DrH might fake the role:

Suppose his claim about the poking is correct, including that the poked knows DrH did the poking. But say DrH were a mafia and the 1 person infected with Murrayitis. This "poke" could be the method by which he transfers Murrayitis... and the person poked would still confirm that DrH poked him, thus establishing credibility. The plague doctors would immunize the people DrH tells them to, possibly including any reds that end up infected.

This possibility has me extremely paranoid if only because it gives the reds such a gigantic advantage. The only ways I can think of to beat this scenario are very WIFOM.


DAMN. That's so true. I was so excited to figure out the connection that I forgot to stay suspicious. IF Bill Murry died while using Sticky, then it's VERY LIKELY that Sticky is infected with Murrayitis. If Sticky pokes someone that would pass it on... Then DrH pretends to be notified.


You're speculating on mod logic based on the storyline of a past game

pretty far out there if you ask me. this is getting way too meta.


I disagree. Your role is "Sticky". You admitted that yourself. It cannot be denied that the theme of the game revolves around Bill Murray. My logic isn't based on the storyline of a past game. It's based on finding connections around the theme:

- Bill Murray died in Haunted Mafia giving rise to Murrayitis
- Bill Murray died in Mafia XXXI holding a sticky named Sticky
- There is an actual role called "Sticky"
- Sticky's ability involves poking people

On October 29 2010 06:46 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
Day 1

Rise and Shine! It is now Day 1! And no one is infected by Murrayitis... Yet.


If no one has Murrayitis yet, then no PERSON has Murrayitis yet. However, a Sticky might. That Sticky is you.

the plot thickens.

however i cant help but notice that he revealed his role honestly ( as far as we know it was pretty much confirmed by the fact that we found a logical link to it in another game that fits perfectly?)
then there is still the chance hes mafia sticky.
but I cant see a scum willingly giving up this kind of info like that.

I hate the way drH plays but his story is starting to come together. i still worry that he is too fucking good at this game to chance him possibly gaining such an advantage as a red.



Good. Tells his stance on DH after DH told the town his role. A little inconsistent to what he said earlier though, about manipulation.

On October 30 2010 14:30 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 14:22 Fishball wrote:
Even if I don't get the Mayor at the end, I still might reveal my role at that point, but this requires more consideration.



I think you are much better off not being mayor

If a red slips into power as mayor and you are truly pro town as you say you are we are gonna need someone who can organize as a backup plan.

I think you would be best suited as our ace up the sleeve in case mayor gets compromised.

Sure, makes a good point.

On October 30 2010 14:39 Coagulation wrote:
Hosting a game has nothing to do with playing in this game. all bitching about something like that is gonna do is create drama that town doesnt need to deal with.

Not useful post.

On October 30 2010 14:43 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 14:33 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
watch the mafia keep grasping at straws to try to make me look bad and red when I've done more to show i'm town than anyone in this game

and then they want to vote for pandain lololol


I told you why I voted for pandain.
and frankly from last game you pretty much showed me you have no problem being mafia and cramming town talk down my fucking throat without thinking twice. so im still skeptical.

He did say why he voted for Pandain, so, hes consistent here.

On October 30 2010 14:58 Coagulation wrote:
rofl

Irrelevant.

On October 31 2010 08:53 Coagulation wrote:
LOL THE BOOGER THROWER

Irrelevant.

On October 31 2010 13:39 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 31 2010 12:39 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
SUP ALL!

Going to start reading now O_O!



PUT YOUR FLAME RESISTANT PANTS ON.

Irrelevant.

On October 31 2010 14:10 Coagulation wrote:
Dodging a lynch sounds alot like a scum role.. anyone else think so?

Makes a point, and poses a question. Don’t think its bad.

On October 31 2010 19:08 Coagulation wrote:
OK i have caught up on reading

1. DOCH naturally I still cant trust you 100% until I can see some of your claims of verifying yourself come to light. I really hope your not a red otherwise we may as well just bend over and let you get to fucking.

2. you have a moron for a bodyguard

3. Node is asking for invites to the circle? i would think twice before letting people who request in. looks like 1 red was already in the circle. he dies and now Node starts asking to get in?(could be mafia trying to get a man back inside)
looks bad but not gonna dwell on it too much yet..

4. pandain I dunno what the hell you are talking about. Im not gonna keep my mouth shut if someone looks scummy just because they are not around to defend themselves.


Makes good points. Well, except for 2 as DXC technically didn’t say he was bodyguard.

On November 01 2010 06:02 Coagulation wrote:
concerning bodyguards
1. there are 2 bodyguards and mods lied to us (mods lie to us then thats bullshit)
2. there is 1 bodyguard and one of them lied. i dont think that would necessarily be scummy considering it can take heat off the real bodyguard and confuse mafia and keep the real bodyguard safe.

lets not do anymore roleclaims guys. we are handing so much info to the reds its not good at all.
if you got a role that needs to be revealed think on it for a day or two first.






Good point, and I agree.

On November 01 2010 06:32 Coagulation wrote:
dt needs to investigate pandain for sure considering he was running for mayor.

also the other people who wanted elected mayor
bumatlarge
fishball
annul
ghrur
glasse
node

also worth keeping an eye on node who is asking for people to invite him into circle.


Talks about how need to check mayor candidates. Not bad.

On November 01 2010 06:57 Coagulation wrote:
well regardless we need to get to the bottom of the youngminii thing somehow i think thats the point hes trying to make. i still feel like there is a good possibility that his ability is either a red ability or he was saved by a red allie. i dont want this to just blow under the radar

Sure, a valid point.

On November 01 2010 07:12 Coagulation wrote:
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On November 01 2010 07:01 Lexpar wrote:
If I die tonight Doc H is almost definitely scum.


just the fact that you posted this comment nullifies itself

Technically not useful, but kinda makes a point.

On November 01 2010 07:15 Coagulation wrote:
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On November 01 2010 07:14 Glasse wrote:
Hey guys if i die tonight Glasse is almost definitely blue.


why on earth did we not make you mayor.

Not helpful.

On November 01 2010 07:32 Coagulation wrote:
ya hes in a circle that is allowed to pm he however isnt give the role/alignment of the people with him.

Answers a question.

On November 01 2010 09:53 Coagulation wrote:
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On November 01 2010 09:25 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:24 jcarlsoniv wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:22 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
On November 01 2010 09:20 Misder wrote:
@DH
Earlier, you said you were going to poke the person you thought is most likely town. So why do you think that jcarls is town?


Agreeable posts, good analysis, cool headed and logical. He didn't make a big roleclaim or bring a lot of attention onto himself and seemed for that reason to be a good target for me.


Awwww that's the nicest thing anyone's ever said about me! ... on the internet...

I didn't realize I was actually an important player in this game.

On November 01 2010 08:15 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I would like to announce that last night I poked jcarlsoniv. I did not receive a PM from Artanis or LSB meaning the poke was successful and jcarlsoniv does not have murrayitis.


I cannot confirm this Dr.H, I did not receive a PM from the mods saying I was poked.


Did you receive any other night actions?

Something stopped my poke from going through to jcarlsoniv.



how fucking convenient.







Yay for being pissed off and not putting analysis. Although this is consistent to how he was acting before DH was elected.

On November 01 2010 10:17 Coagulation wrote:
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On October 30 2010 07:11 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
you'll see very soon that the information I'm providing will be beneficial to the town and we'll see real results in numbers. I can back this up.


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On October 30 2010 07:12 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
there are other things to my power that will prove beyond any doubt that I am a pro-town player. they may not take affect immediately but everything will be quite clear when I am elected and roleclaim


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On October 30 2010 06:17 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
did you even read the thread? i am going to prove that I am my blue role as soon as I am elected.


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On October 30 2010 09:27 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I can demonstrate my role is exactly what it is one I am able to use it. If this is not the case then feel free to lynch me.


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On October 30 2010 09:07 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Why does that make you nervous? I can prove to the entire town that I am town aligned. If I don't do that, simply lynch me.


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On October 30 2010 09:23 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
I am saying I am 100% able to prove I have a not scummy role and if I am found in any way to be lying, the town can lynch me. You don't have to take me at my word but this is a huge gambit I'm taking with a very small payoff if I am mafia.


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On October 30 2010 06:16 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
i'm the only candidate aside from node who is claiming to offer 100% proof that I am not mafia when I'm elected, just saying




Imo, makes a good point.

On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote:
im not saying doch is red
im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie

im saying he had a campaign of bullshit.

Sure, agreed.

On November 01 2010 10:23 Coagulation wrote:
he claims he had thought about being roleblocked. yet he still claims 100% proof the whole time hes campaigning ITS CONVENIENT he happens to leave that out of his campaign

Same as above.

On November 01 2010 10:25 Coagulation wrote:
DOCH is not a shitty player there is no fucking way he got blindsided by something as simple as a ROLEBLOCK.

Same as above.

On November 01 2010 10:34 Coagulation wrote:
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On November 01 2010 10:31 Glasse wrote:
On November 01 2010 10:20 Coagulation wrote:
im not saying doch is red
im not saying that mafia wouldnt have anything to gain by discrediting him if he is a townie

im saying he had a campaign of bullshit.


i'd like to point out that there is always less than 10% truth in any elections.


so wait.. your not a god???

Unhelpful.

[/b][/blue][/u]
Conclusion: After going through his posts, he doesn’t really seem scummy to me anymore. Aside from multiple irrelevant, unhelpful, and sarcastic posts, he does bring up good points. I think there are times where he makes a statement, but doesn’t back it up, which he should do. Other than that, I feel that Coagulation is actually blue.

I’m probably doing Pandain next, unless someone else wants to do it.
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When I’m doing analysis like this, do I have to go through all of the posts, and put my thoughts on them? It’s really time consuming esp when its someone that posts a lot…
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 02:58 GMT
#1644
Well, we now know almost certainly that DH is vulnerable. Now the question is whether or not protecting him is the right thing, as again, there is speculation on whether or not hes mafia or not. Right now, I'm pretty torn. People are right on how there really is no way to gaurantee that DH will have an opportunity to confirm himself. Then again, he's making good analysis and making everything up is pretty hard to do... unless he got his mafia buddies to help. Maybe (speculation again...) he made up the role, and he and his mafia made it based on Bill Murray on purpose to make it sound believable. It's really stretched, but a possibility. Anyone know who pointed out the link between Sticky and the stick of Bill Murray?

I wonder if mafia knew that annul was a bodygaurd. It seems so out of there. Why would mafia try to go for annul in the first place? It's not like he made any amazingly good posts that would screw up mafia.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 03:06 GMT
#1658
On November 01 2010 12:01 Glasse wrote:
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On November 01 2010 12:01 Artanis[Xp] wrote:
I'd like to take this opportunity to say that LSB and I will never outright lie about something. If something is false in something I said, there will almost always be hints to it. This is not a game where the town has to battle both the GM and the mafia.


so there was only 1 bodyguard...

drh is vulnerable then


Well, as bumalarge pointed out, Artanis didn't outright say there was only 1 bodygaurd. He said that town could only afford 1 bodygaurd. That doesn't mean that there isn't someone that isn't hired doing the job.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 01 2010 04:06 GMT
#1723
I'm going to bring this up again, why do you think mafia chose to kill annul? Do you think they found about him being the bodygaurd? Cause I don't see another reason why mafia would kill him. He didn't make any amazingly good post that would screw mafia over did he?
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
November 03 2010 00:00 GMT
#2283
Sorry town. I was 40 mins too late. Good luck!
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