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Original Message From Pandain: GIVE ME THOUGHTS NOW YUM YUM YUM YUM MONSTA DEMANDS BRAIN FOOD Yum Yum ==> Food Food ==> Sausage Sausage ==> "Franks" Frankenstein Frankenstein also has no thoughts, meaning he would require others to feed him thoughts. He also has no tact, which in text would be represented with proper punctuation and capitalization and would demand such items without properly asking. k 1 down 60 to go | ||
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On October 13 2010 10:28 NB wrote: host, would you like me to pm this to you or you can answer this on the thread? also about red's roles, could they have more than 1 person for each role? i mean 5 invisible men ect? If a role is denoted by ? of ? then the total number (and hence the number remaining) are unknown, and as such the host will not just give you the answer. It could even be 0 (though probably not as that's not any fun). It's planned by the host as part of the game balance, meaning that there are not 31 Frankensteins for example. If Frankenstein is lynched he's dead. So leave Pandain alone. | ||
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Ironically Pandain's PM indicating he's Frankenstein reminded me this thing even started lol | ||
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![[image loading]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Mjollnir.png) Wikipedia In Norse mythology, Mjǫllnir (also spelled Mjöllnir or Mjölner, pronounced /ˈmjɔːlnɪər/ or /ˈmjɔːlnər/ in English) is the hammer of Thor, a major god associated with thunder in Norse mythology. Distinctively shaped, Mjöllnir is depicted in Norse mythology as one of the most fearsome weapons, capable of leveling mountains. ... Mjöllnir simply means "crusher", referring to its pulverizing effect. Mjöllnir might be related to the Russian word молния (molniya) and the Welsh word mellt (both words being translated as "lightning"). Describing the image Drawing of a 4.6 cm gold-plated silver Mjöllnir pendant found at Bredsätra on Öland, Sweden. The original is housed at the Swedish Museum of National Antiquities. Narrator Night 1 Qatol turned around to defend himself but was met with a hammer. The silver instrument bashed his skull to pieces and the tall figure laughed maniacally as Qatols head crumbled into dust. Narrator Night 2 He sat under a stoop, clutching his brown bag of liquor, hoping the rain would end soon. The drizzle quickly became a storm and soon lightning followed it. A single bolt of lightning stuck the ground in front of coag, illuminating a huge man in front of him. Coagulation heard a sound like metal scraping against the ground and he looked to the man who was holding a huge hammer. Coagulation's eyes widened in fear but he couldn't run before the huge hammer struck the side of his skull, crushing his head into a fine powder. Seems like a clear cut case to me. Lynch Artanis. | ||
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On October 17 2010 15:09 Nemesis wrote: It's not the clear cut. Artanis only joined the game during night phase 1. That means none of the clues in day 1 could relate to him. As for this day's death, it could indeed point to him. But it could also point to the same person that day1's clue referred to with the lightning part added in as a red herring. Hmm. That explains the discrepancy between Night 1 and Night 2 -- the "hammers" used in both seemed to have a different descriptive quality, and the dude Artanis replaced had no profile at all. However, the recent post seems to allude very heavily to the Mjöllnir and thus Artanis. But good eye on the replacement bit. | ||
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Day 4 clue: It was a quiet night at the Mothman Movie Theatre and thegilaboy was the only person in attendance for a midnight screening of The Rocky Horror Picture show. Or so he thought. The movie ended and he walked down the stairs of the dark theatre room, hearing a clanking behind him. He turned to see an enormous shadow. Feeling threatened, thegilaboy leaped out and struck the large figure. Even though he possessed superhuman strength, the bones of his fist broke easily as he punched what seemed to be impenetrable armor. The figure simply picked thegilaboy off the ground and snapped his neck with one hand. He was found sitting upright in a chair with both of his eyes missing. ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/110371.jpg?1286727138) Seems like a strong clue, and additionally he's quietly slipped a vote on Kenpachi without making a single post in this thread since the Day 4 post (idk when he last posted, I didn't search before then, but he only has 14 total posts total). This seems substantially stronger than what's on Kenpachi. | ||
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Color-codes: Mafia and Vampire for ease of discernment, and town-aligned (includes gravedigger/creeper). Bold for power-roles. I have verified all votes and their counts myself and noted discrepancies with Dr. H's count. Reminder :: Player Subs (Old Player, New Player)
Day 1 Lynch: Masq Official Mistakes:
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Night 1 Kills: bumatlarge, LSB, youngminii, RebirthOfLeGenD, NB Day 2 Lynch: Veldril
Mod-kills : Kpyolysis32, ~OpZ~, ZaplinG Night 2 Kills: coagulation, Pandain, BrownBear, ShmotZ Day 3 Lynch: (Bill Murray, Glurio) Votes
Mod-kills: Jodogohoo, l0st_romantic, TheMunkey, seRaPh, TheRick Night 3 Kills: Artanis[Xp], Lucktar, orgolove, kingjames01, thegilaboy, YummyBlaBla, Lexpar Day 4: MetalFace Official Mistakes: Kenpachi won 11 - 9 Votes:
Mod-kills: Hittegods, (LastArgument, XeliN), chesshaha, Neos Night 4 Kills: Aeres, jaminz, CubEdIn | ||
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Day 4: MetalFace Official Mistakes: Kenpachi won 11 - 9 Votes:
Mod-kills: Hittegods, (LastArgument, XeliN), chesshaha, Neos Night 4 Kills: Aeres, jaminz, CubEdIn | ||
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Also, for this: CubEdIn got up late at night to fix himself a midnight snack. He opened the refrigerator and felt a chill on the back of his neck. There was nothing behind him that he could see, but as he concentrated more there seemed to be a faint outline of a human form. Before he could examine it further, or run, he was stabbed through the chest by a blade he would never see. This sounds like it would match the dude with the DT pic in their profile, but I forget who's pic that was, and IIRC they died. It could also be an extremely vague reference to QuickStriker -- someone who strikes quickly. Not nearly as strong as my Artanis find though.. will look more deeply into these and their voting patterns tomorrow to see if there's something there. Things to look for: obviously the first day vote is very telling. The second day vote doesn't say much (maybe who pushed fastest to get the ball rolling? But IIRC it was rolling that night anyway..) but the third and fourth days were close enough that they should be enlightening. ~night | ||
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However, I think the clue is very fitting. Nice find. | ||
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Format: <Masq - Veldril> <vote> <timestamp> <voter> Remember, Vampire, Mafia and Town with bold meaning power roles. (player X, player Y) means player sub from X to Y. * = Suspicious vote + Show Spoiler [Votes] + 1 - 0 Masq: October 11 2010 14:31 Glasse 2 - 0 Masq: October 11 2010 14:42 CubedIn 3 - 0 Masq: October 11 2010 14:49 Nemesis 4 - 0 Masq: October 11 2010 14:59 aztrorisk 4 - 1 Veldril: October 11 2010 15:40 (Bill Murray, Glurio) 5 - 1 Masq: October 11 2010 16:37 Yogy 6 - 1 Masq: October 11 2010 17:26 Neos 7 - 1 Masq: October 11 2010 17:41 spydR 8 - 1 Masq: October 11 2010 23:02 Lexpar 8 - 2 Veldril: October 12 2010 00:07 jcarlsoniv 9 - 2 Masq: October 12 2010 00:22 zerroth 9 - 3 Veldril: October 12 2010 02:22 Lucktar 9 - 4 Veldril: October 12 2010 02:33 jodogohoo 9 - 5 Veldril: October 12 2010 03:45 YummyBlaBla 9 - 6 Veldril: October 12 2010 03:58 Kenpachi 9 - 7 Veldril: October 12 2010 03:59 annul 10 - 7 Masq: October 12 2010 05:10 Aeres 10 - 8 Veldril: October 12 2010 05:40 jaminz 10 - 9 Veldril: October 12 2010 07:48 youngminii 11 - 9 Masq: October 12 2010 09:00 LSB *11 - 10 Veldril: October 12 2010 09:14 SouthRawrea 11 - 11 Veldril: October 12 2010 09:25 Masq 12 - 11 Masq: October 12 2010 09:25 Pandain *12 - 12 Veldril: October 12 2010 10:16. grandmoose 12 - 13 Veldril: October 12 2010 14:26. bumatlarge 13 - 13 Masq: October 12 2010 19:02 Veldril *13 - 14 Veldril: October 12 2010 19:31 HeavOnEarth 14 - 14 Masq: October 12 2010 22:18 Hyperbola *14 - 15 Veldril: October 12 2010 22:19 oddo123 15 - 15 Masq: October 12 2010 23:36 seRapH 16 - 15 Masq: October 12 2010 23:38 Flicky 17 - 15 Masq: October 13 2010 00:36 Therick 17 - 16 Veldril: October 13 2010 02:36 Thegilaboy 17 - 17 Veldril: October 13 2010 02:47 kingjames01 16 - 18 Switch to Veldril: October 13 2010 03:14 Lexpar 16 - 17 Unvote Veldril October 13 2010 03:30 (Bill Murray, Glurio) 16 - 16 Unvote Veldril October 13 2010 03:33 jaminz 17 - 16 Masq October 13 2010 04:21 TheMunkey 18 - 16 Masq October 13 2010 04:55 (Bill Murray, Glurio) 19 - 16 Masq October 13 2010 05:05 Coagulation 19 - 17 Veldril October 13 2010 05:52 MetalFace 18 - 17 Unvote Masq October 13 2010 06:49 Pandain *19 - 16 Switch to Masq October 13 2010 06:55 jcarlsoniv 20 - 16 Masq October 13 2010 07:51 orogolove 21 - 16 Masq October 13 2010 08:00 Hittegods 22 - 15 Switch to Masq October 13 2010 08:09 bumatlarge 23 - 15 Masq October 13 2010 09:04 Pandain 24 - 15 Masq October 13 2010 09:19 kitaman27 25 - 15 Masq October 13 2010 09:26 SiNiquity 25 - 16 Veldril October 13 2010 09:26 ShmotZ 26 - 16 Masq October 13 2010 10:45 Kpyolysis32 25 - 17 Switch to Veldril October 13 2010 11:22 (Bill Murray, Glurio) 25 - 18 Veldril October 13 2010 12:20 NB 26 - 18 Masq October 13 2010 12:43 AirbladeOrange 27 - 17 Switch to Masq October 13 2010 12:45 ShmotZ 27 - 16 Unvote Veldril October 13 2010 12:53 Jodogohoo Cliffs: 11 - 10 Veldril: October 12 2010 09:14 SouthRawrea 12 - 12 Veldril: October 12 2010 10:16. grandmoose 13 - 14 Veldril: October 12 2010 19:31 HeavOnEarth 14 - 15 Veldril: October 12 2010 22:19 oddo123 19 - 16 Switch to Masq October 13 2010 06:55 jcarlsoniv The top 4 voted for Veldril when there was still a very good chance he would take the lead over Masq, and jcarlsoniv bailed to Masq after it became clear that he was going to get the majority vote. Note that bumatlarge also switched from Veldril to Masq shortly thereafter. Also, players that voted for neither party (and are still alive):
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On October 24 2010 11:17 kitaman27 wrote: Well I am not and would be interested in hearing your reasoning  What're your thoughts on the clue relationship to your profile? | ||
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On October 24 2010 13:19 Nemesis wrote: Nono, I meant for the first day clue since vampires only have 3 kill points, that only 3 of the clues can point to vampires and the other 3 has to point to mafias. Oh haha. Makes much more sense. | ||
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On October 24 2010 13:23 kitaman27 wrote: I voted for Masq, a vampire, and Artanis[Xp], a mafia. Both votes could have swung either way. Why would I push to lynch one of my own kind? Also I have voted for who I suspect, not always with the bandwagon. You voted for Masq towards the end, when it was -very clear- that he was going to get lynched. So this isn't as convincing as you make it out to be. I'll give you Artansis as your vote's somewhere in the middle, and I don't feel like doing a full-blown analysis of that vote right now. If you look back at my clue analysis I have called out both Aeres, a mafia, and MetalFace, a vamp. Again, why would I attack a teammate? If you can find a post of mine that wasn't pro-town, point it out. You "called out" MetalFace along with several (putting it lightly) other people... On October 22 2010 05:45 kitaman27 wrote: Here is a stream of consciousness analysis for the day four clues. I admit some of the relations may be weak, I just listed anything that could possibly pick out that would match a clue. Possible clues: "metal dragging on the ground" "huge claws" + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/67408.jpg?1286845235) For starters, there is this giant flying metal thing with claws hanging out of it belonging to SiNiquity. "Metal" could also be a reference to the user name of MetalFace "Claws" could belong to the tiger Hobbes contained in Node's profile ...and I couldn't find any post where you called out Aeres. Could you point me to it? Others have been slipping by for weeks now, while this is the first time I've been even remotely suspect. Enough town has been targeted and modkilled, I just don't want you guys to waste another and fall even further behind. If there is a dt or even a mad scientist that wants to analyze the clue, then I wouldn't be opposed to prove my innocence. So don't lynch active players? :\ And the invisible man is still out, so you'd probably come up mafia even if you were rolechecked tonight. | ||
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On October 12 2010 09:20 kitaman27 wrote: Aeres is a homophone for Aeris, but to be honest, I just don't really see the omnislash reference being that concrete. Several empty posts. + Show Spoiler + On October 14 2010 05:00 kitaman27 wrote: 8 total wouldn't really make much sense considering in order for the scum to win, they have to kill of 10 or 11 of the opposing faction so that would cause the town win condition to be reached first (unless the scum outnumbered the town of course) On October 14 2010 10:12 kitaman27 wrote: Is it safe to assume the players that just joined after the modkills absorb the role of the player they replaced? On October 14 2010 10:49 kitaman27 wrote: Well he claimed to everyone, so I would assume so. On October 17 2010 10:15 kitaman27 wrote: How about we just encourage spammers to quit spamming rather than lynching town members. On October 17 2010 13:18 kitaman27 wrote: Perhaps a ghost stopped the poison or they poisoned a frank? Good post tying a clue to deconduo. Did we ever resolve this clue? He came up in my Day 1 lynch list suspicions. Completely unrelated, but excellent taste in poetry sir deconduo. + Show Spoiler + On October 18 2010 12:30 kitaman27 wrote: Quality analysis. Looking back, here is one thing that should be added to the list. That clue seemed to be the least obvious to me, but coffee and "Aflred Hitchcock Memorial Hospital" were the two things that stood out. I couldn't find anything to do with coffee either, but I discovered something that may have to do with the second part. In deconduo's profile there is a poem: I typed it into google and the first link that came up was: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Song_of_J._Alfred_Prufrock Alfred Hitchcock.....Alfred Prufrock? I think it is unlikely that it is a mere coincidence. Empty posts. + Show Spoiler + On October 19 2010 13:18 kitaman27 wrote: Wow so BM wasn't lying when he claimed JOL. This is starting to get ugly. Cmon people, we are losing way too many to stupid modkills by not voting. On October 20 2010 13:07 kitaman27 wrote: Wow four scum kills and neither side really has a huge advantage over the other. We might not be in such a bad position after all. I take it that Orgolove was poisoned? Stream of consciousness analysis. Makes very loose connections, doesn't really push for any one in particular. + Show Spoiler + On October 22 2010 05:45 kitaman27 wrote: Here is a stream of consciousness analysis for the day four clues. I admit some of the relations may be weak, I just listed anything that could possibly pick out that would match a clue. Possible clues: "metal dragging on the ground" "huge claws" + Show Spoiler + For starters, there is this giant flying metal thing with claws hanging out of it belonging to SiNiquity. "Metal" could also be a reference to the user name of MetalFace "Claws" could belong to the tiger Hobbes contained in Node's profile Possible Clues: "headbutt" "gigantic man" oddo123 contains an image of Fabio Grosso, an Italian soccer play who scored the game winning goal in the 2006 World Cup Final, a game remembered for the infamous Zinedine Zidane headbutt. XeliN's profile contains a Hulk-like figure that could be considered gigantic. KtheZ has a Duke Nukem quote, which could also fit the description of a gigantic man I assume poison? Or something to do with shopping? Not sure. Possible Clues: "Mothman Movie Theatre "Rocky Horror Picture" "Sumerhuman strength" "Impenetrable armor" This may be a better match for XeliN's Hulk, as he possesses both superhuman strength and impenetrable armor. + Show Spoiler + ![[image loading]](http://www.teamliquid.net/userfiles/48393.jpg?1273422600) I couldn't really find any references to Mothman or Rocky. Possible Clues: "Baseball bat" This is the clue that is getting the most attention since it appears so obvious. One may think it is too obvious, but if Hittegods is indeed scum, he has no other profile information to make a clue out of. Another possible reference is to jaminz who has a Sandlot quote (awesome baseball movie) by the The Great Bambino himself. Possible Clues: "roar" "no lions or tigers" The first thing I think of is "Lions and tigers and bears, oh my!" But it appears our two bear references got killed off that night. Can a clue point to a scum that got killed that night? chesshaha is from Boston, which is associated with Bruins, but that is too far of a stretch for even my standards. I can't really find any other animals, except a monkey, which doesn't really make a loud roar. Empty posts. + Show Spoiler + On October 22 2010 06:38 kitaman27 wrote: Can a mod verify that Kenpachi was just fixing a typo or is it too late?  Points out flaw in Kenpachi's defense. + Show Spoiler + On October 23 2010 06:00 kitaman27 wrote: Not that I don't believe you, but he did vote for you at a point where an extra vote wouldn't change the lynching results. Your posting history is stereotypical mafia IMO. Lot of "nothing" posts, some loose analysis here and there but don't really push anything, lots of questions or answering easy questions to feign activity. And in defense of yourself, you over-exaggerate"calling out" Aeres and MetalFace as well as the importance of your vote on Masq. At this point I'm quite confident you are not town. | ||
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You seem reasonable, so I'm going to level with you. There's a clue that resembles your profile on several levels (picture, quotes). Is this dead certain? No, as you pointed out the obvious baseball bat clue for Hittegods was a red herring, which is why I was interested in your defense. You made several strong claims which I didn't really recall from the thread (but as memory is hazy and this thread is huge, I went to double check). I'm glad the Artanis one did check out, and that does make me believe that you're far less likely to be mafia. You'll have to forgive me for not doing it myself - after doing the day 1 lynch I really didn't want to look at the vote thread any more. The most exonerating piece of evidence, though, would have been a push for Masq either at the beginning, or in the middle when he still had a real chance of being lynched. Does the fact that this doesn't hold condemn you? No - heck I even voted after you. But without it I didn't feel that it really added to your defense. So I proceeded onto your next claim: If you look back at my clue analysis I have called out both Aeres, a mafia, and MetalFace, a vamp. But you didn't ever really call either player out. Here's Aeres: On October 12 2010 09:20 kitaman27 wrote: Aeres is a homophone for Aeris, but to be honest, I just don't really see the omnislash reference being that concrete. And MetalFace you mentioned only in passing, a single line in a post naming many other names (yes, mine included). Neither of these makes for a strong defense, yet you represent them as such. I know town and mafia can swing either way with regard to posting / voting patterns (WIFOM and all that jazz), and I'm not basing my decision on useless banter as everyone, myself included, is guilty of that. But the over-exaggeration just doesn't sit right with me. It seems dishonest. So level with me. Why overstate calling out these players? | ||
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On October 25 2010 05:56 kitaman27 wrote: Fair enough, I didn't realize until after I posted it that my discovery of Aeres's clue wasn't posted in the thread. I wasn't even thinking of that other post. About two days ago after looking back at the clues here is what I noticed: I pm'd someone with the clue since they said in a pm that they knew someone who knew a Dt. (I'm not sure if they want to reveal themselves to confirm or not, but it would be appreciated). They replied with a simple "thanks" and I never heard back. Then two days latter Aeres pops up dead with no further mention of his name. I'm not exactly sure what they did with the clue I gave them, whether they checked him or somehow leaked it or if Aeres being targeted just happened to be a coincidence, but I realize now that it was a mistake to not mention it here. I wanted proof from a dt or mad scientist before I went after him since he seemed clean from his posts, but I never heard back. I admit you can call pointing out the MetalFace reference weak, but if I was vampire, why wouldn't I just omit it? No one would ever notice if I did. I guess it comes down to whether you want to go after someone who is actually trying to defend himself or someone who has been skating by for days as a lurker. hmm. I'm trying to concoct a scenario where it would make sense to lie about calling out Aeres publicly, only to backtrack on that and lie about calling him out in a PM, and that just doesn't make sense. So I believe the PM bit. The question then is would scum out someone in PM land and not publicly? The whole scenario seems far-fetched. Why? To build up some kinda trust relationship? At the same time, you PM someone you suspect player X, they say "thanks" and a couple days later player X gets killed by vampires (as player X was mafia), and then don't think to mention it? :\ Guess that hinges on why the PM bit was established in the first place, which if you wanted public would have already divulged. In any case, this is enough to convince me. There's still the clue, but perhaps new evidence will help connect it to another player. | ||
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Color-codes: Mafia and Vampire for ease of discernment, and town-aligned (includes gravedigger/creeper). Bold for power-roles. I have verified all votes and their counts myself. Reminder :: Player Subs (Old Player, New Player)
Day 1 Lynch: Masq Official Mistakes:
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Night 1 Kills: bumatlarge, LSB, youngminii, RebirthOfLeGenD, NB, l0st_romantic, Day 2 Lynch: Veldril
Mod-kills : Kpyolysis32, ~OpZ~, ZaplinG Night 2 Kills: coagulation, Pandain, BrownBear, ShmotZ Day 3 Lynch: (Bill Murray, Glurio) Votes
Mod-kills: Jodogohoo, l0st_romantic, TheMunkey, seRaPh, TheRick Night 3 Kills: Artanis[Xp], Lucktar, orgolove, kingjames01, thegilaboy, YummyBlaBla, Lexpar Day 4: MetalFace Official Mistakes: Kenpachi won 11 - 9 Votes:
Mod-kills: Hittegods, (LastArgument, XeliN), chesshaha, Neos Night 4 Kills: Aeres, jaminz, CubEdIn Day 5 Lynch: HeavOnEarth
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Day 1 Lynch: Masq Votes
Night 1 Kills: bumatlarge, LSB, youngminii, RebirthOfLeGenD, NB | ||
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On October 26 2010 09:54 kitaman27 wrote: Not that it really matters, but I think seRapH got hit by a JOL rather than modkilled. He got both hit by a JOL and mod-killed for voting for jodogohoo the day jodo was banned. | ||
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Night 1 Kills: bumatlarge, LSB, youngminii (death by JoL), RebirthOfLeGenD, NB, l0st_romantic, | ||
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On October 27 2010 10:46 ghrur wrote: Mafia, claim to me through PMs. It won't hurt you at all because I am town (I can prove it), and town cannot win by killing off more of you guys. What? lol. | ||
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Sucks that we're in the middle of the week now so I have less time to do this stuff, so I'm counting on you. Post clues directly related to these (or at least seemingly) from other days. It may also be helpful to have a collection of resolved clues (or so we believe), such as the Artanis hammer clue and the MetalFace Juggernaut clue. We need to be certain of our lynch tonight, and these are our starting points. | ||
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On October 27 2010 13:10 ghrur wrote: Oh, that's my concern too until I realized Mafia know each other.  And me being green? As I said, I can prove it, and analyze my posts. I'm green as can be You can't prove it outside of breaking the rules (i.e. photoshopping PMs, letting other players login to your account to verify your PMs, etc). Hmm. That explains Pandain's death actually. I completely forgot about that. In any case it should not be a concern here. On October 28 2010 05:53 annul wrote: wow. well, if spydr and zerroth are actually mafia, then they have just conceded. mafia has no possible way to win the game. Mafia never had a chance of winning the game once they dropped below 3. Note that no vampire can be killed with at least one town member alive, else the town wins. Mafia have one hit, so they can kill at most one vampire, and they can only do this once every town member has been eliminated. Best case scenario is vampires use their 2 hits to eliminate remaining town, and mafia uses their 1 hit on vampire. But then it's 3-2 vamps so vamps win. | ||
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1. deconduo 2. ghrur (sub for d3_crescentia) 8. Divinek (sub for CKSide) 9. KtheZ 10. oddo123 12. quickstriker 14. kitaman27 15. zerroth 22. SiNiquity 25. AirbladeOrange 33. Flicky 36. KhrisKruel 37. spydR 38. Hyperbola 47. jcarlsoniv 48. annul 52. Glasse 58. Node 4 of these are Vampires. 2 of these are Mafia. 14 of these are Town. | ||
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On October 28 2010 10:52 zerroth wrote: what good does telling you guys who we picked to kill off? It can certainly only help | ||
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