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is anyone else trying to figure this out? The hidden word might start with a capital W to the left of the w I have there now... very intriguing.
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is anyone else trying to figure this out? The hidden word might start with a capital W to the left of the w I have there now... very intriguing. | ||
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On August 09 2010 06:55 BrownBear wrote: This actually brings up a good point. This plan hinges on one person surviving the night, as well as being active enough to notice the plan and agree to it. It's highly likely he'll survive the night. If he's not paying attention, though... at best the plan is useless, at worst mafia can turn it against us somehow. People just have to not be stupid and claim too early until things are confirmed. Maybe that is asking too much, though. | ||
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Bill Murray and Foolishness are the two obvious reds to me. They were best buddies, I pointed out Foolishness chainsaw defending BM twice, and all of a sudden they are bluffing against each other. Simple enough. If BM flips red and you don't take out Foolishness, fuck you town, you deserve the loss and more. Need a recap? BM begged for all blues to claim to him BM kept pushing for plans involving blues claiming to town before anything confirmed goes down. BM was fishing for Pandain's role in PM. Foolishness isn't playing his town or blue style at all. He was furiously defending BM right at the start of the game, despite BM's style being about the exact opposite of what Foolishness usually likes to see when playing as town. BM was too busy pushing his sketchy plans to do any scumhunting day 1. He claimed Divinek was mafia, then backed off, voted for love1another and didn't make any hard push for anyone else. As soon as day breaks, he attempts to rewrite history by saying he was pushing for Foolishness's lynch but no one would listen. Watch him fail to seriously go after Foolishness on Day 2 and respond accordingly. If Foolishness gets lynched and flips red before Bill Murray, DO NOT trust BM regardless of what part he played in killing Foolishness. If Foolishness and BM flip innocent feel free to bash on me and I'm sorry. So if BM flips red and then Foolishness flips red, who to look at next then? Hesmyrr: laid low, came out and put a FoS on BM while voting to save BM. I know Foolishness told the hatter to put a bomb on Hesmyrr; ignore this. Low risk of hatter following that, Foolishness didn't give a reason why, even if a hatter did that the hatter might not die for a while so it could keep him alive longer. Really, the post didn't seem to have any real intended effect, just the surface effect of putting the two players at odds - kinda like BM's quick FoS on Hesmyrr and some other player. BrownBear: BM's first post subtly defended BB. He tried to help BM shoot down LSB's plan by pointing out small technicalities when BM's plan is nothing but one big huge liability. BM points out that a BB post is scummy as fuck and prompty goes no where with this line of reasoning. Posts about the same time as Foolishness during the time BM starts to get saved in the voting thread. Foolishness says "What if BM doesn't get lynched (for whatever reason)? BrownBear says "Are we really lynching BM day 1?" Neither care to engage the argument on merits. BB and Foolishness both seem to be awfully focused on what happens to BM - I am too, but it's because he's scummy. No one should be so trust worthy of other players so early that they are willing to defend them so much; that's why it's weird that BM uses his first post to say that the mafia probably haven't posted yet. Also, he PM'd me to say he is suspicious of BM but doesn't want to vote for him, which echoes Hesmyrr. LSB: He was the first person I suspected; I don't suspect him anymore, though. BM's first post seemed to defend either him, or BB, or maybe both. I thought it was odd that he said that killing and inactive usually hurts town but argued for it anyway. He also posted from the perspective of mafia saying something "doesn't seem like a plan the mafia would fall for". I like his plan, though. I don't think mafia would propose competing plans. If they did, it would be to confuse people so no plan happens but LSB has been really key in organizing and PMing so people can get on the same page. If the plan falls apart and backfires and some loophole gets revealed, take a look at him, but I think he's okay now. bumatlarge was on my list for helping with the divinek thing but I'm not too on to him anymore. So my list is actually down to four - big dissapointment, I know. I love the posts from Chezinu and his clone. Unfortunately they are very anti-town so you'll have to figure that out with DT or Ninja checks or lynches. | ||
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On August 09 2010 09:34 Hesmyrr wrote: I want to mention that with exception of RoTK Mafia, my play style (if you can call it that) has been consistently to make post with content and avoid meaningless fluff posts - resulting in low activity rate. Well my argument really is maybe .05% about inactivity but thanks for the strawperson anyway. On August 09 2010 09:34 Hesmyrr wrote: I like how you assume that at least three mafia would come out of woodworks to rescue BM, who in that junction is widely criticized and whose negative flip, should that be true, will put massive suspicion on his defenders. Foolishness defended BM when he was under light criticism and but stopped when I pointed out his double chainsaw defense in favor of BM. I like how you mangle my argument into "at least three mafia would come out of the woodworks to rescue BM" when actually I pointed out how both you and BrownBear attacked Bill Murray with your words while, under further scrutiny, defending him with your actions. You have nothing to worry about, though, if I am wrong about the first two, so don't get to worried. | ||
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Okay, I am sending this to you in case I die. You are not the only person I am sending this to. All I ask is that if I die, can you post this message? Think of it as my will. I will reveal this tomorrow. I played along with Foolishness because I need to survive. If I do not die, just don't do anything with this, Please. I'll whip it out Day 2 if my plan went well. I also suspect Divenk/Misder are mafia http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/v..._id=139517¤tpage=11#202, read below he sounds fake. If your mafia, we'll w/e I'd probably be wrong about Foolishness Message below Foolishness sounds scummy ------------------------------------------------ yessir. Here's what we can do first. Get a list together of everyone that's commented on your plan. We want to find people who have pointed out minor flaws in your plan without saying much else (most likely mafia). People who actively criticize your plan are probably town (they don't want the town to enact some stupid plan), and people who try to improve your plan are probably town as well. If someone makes a moot post pointing out a flaw or passively agreeing to it, they are top suspect. Obviously it's night time and not a lot of people are around so we're not going to have a lot of data, but it'll be a start. Let me know what you find. We'll then figure out someone for you to start PMing with. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Sure, I'll help you Of course, you're going along with the plan right? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Hello, I am Foolishness I am asking you to help me in finding the mafia among the lurkers. I have sent this PM to you because I think you can help me out. It is crucial for us, as the town, to use PMing to our advantage to weed out the mafia members. Although no plan is foolproof, I ask if you are willing to PM other players in order to get them to slip up. There are some people that would act differently if I were to PM them, since I am apparently a figurehead for this game. There's also a limit to the amount of people I am able to keep track of through PMs (and right now it's a lot). The benefits are great, and as long as you run things by me the risks are small. I look forward to hearing from you Foolishness ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Hello, I am LSB. I am asking you to follow this plan for night one http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/v..._id=139517¤tpage=43#845 I have sent this PM to everyone playing Mafia XXX. In order for us to succeed, we need to work together. Although no plan is foolproof, I ask that you go though and review it. We could not find any way that the mafia could slip and disrupt it. I believe the plan speaks for itself. The benifts are great, and the risks are small Feel free to PM me if you have any questions LSB | ||
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On August 09 2010 11:05 Foolishness wrote: I took a hit last night So I guess instant analysis is: 1. Mafia, lying. 2. Vet 3. Medic didn't follow plan 4. Ninja 5. Bus Driver didn't follow plan, redirected Medic onto you. 6. Mafia got hit by vigi that is suspicious of how different Foolishness is acting this game, somehow got protted (see 4 or 5) Yep, I don't know much. All these blues make it harder for town to figure shit out lol. | ||
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On August 09 2010 11:19 Foolishness wrote: Okay now why don't you pick the most likely choice out of that list. imo... 1. Mafia (since you are so scummy), then 4. Ninja (pming 8 people asking them to do things they could do in the thread - seems like blue fishing but could be enemy ninja fishing, mayyybe the scummy anti-town play is to keep the mafia of your tail since you are usually a huge threat to them), then 2. Veteran (maybe you are playing so different to appear like ninja/blue to soak up a hit - this makes little sense though because you usually get hit day 1 while playing pro-town). | ||
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On August 09 2010 11:43 Foolishness wrote: I didn't ask for your opinion. I said to pick the choice that was most likely. Even if 2 DTs came out and said I was clean and a Tracker followed me and I didn't visit anyone and even if the GF was already dead I know you'd still accuse me of being mafia. Don't tell me things I already know. See, I'm trying to find the truth is all. So I have to be open to various possibilities. And if I think it is appropriate to highlight the 3 most likely things and rank them in order likelihood, I will do that instead of tunneling. Have I zeroed in on BM? Yes. I maintain he should be lynched first, and all my other conclusions span from there. I feel this is a better town strategy than going after people randomly, and trying to scumhunt as if there is only one mafia out there at a time. I feel that I lessen the risk of town messing up by remaining focused on how I came about my list and following that logical progression with lynches. And it is also interesting that 2 of my 4 suspects have claimed to be targets of mafia (or other) violence in the night. We will have more information coming in so I am open to that. | ||
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Like I said in the thread 1 red 2 ninja 3 vet This situation mayyybe upped the likelihood of ninja over red, but that's wifom in the end. Either way, I bet he's dead soon because of how much it makes him look like a ninja. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: What do you think is most likely? Vet, ninja, red or dumbass blue? | ||
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On August 09 2010 11:53 Chezinu wrote: Ok, I going to half way give up the challenge set before me and speak ooc. "Just don't let Chez know we were talking" lololol that was so obvious you two were talking. Did you know out of everyone in this game only you, LSB, and Xelin were pming me. Of course, I bugged the Scribe but my stalking ways weren't too pleasant. So interesting how you seem to post at the same time of day as your clone. | ||
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On August 09 2010 12:00 BrownBear wrote: How exactly did I claim blue? I just said I was roleblocked. The role write up says that even if a green or ninja gets waxed they will be told. | ||
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On August 09 2010 12:08 Chezinu wrote: Ok, let's have the conversation in public. I visited the scribe last night and saw nothing, yet the scribe claims to have visited someone last night. I think I'm seeing our plan's chance of success rapidly sink. | ||
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I'm also beginning to fear that Chezinu's real name is Jonathan Söderström. | ||
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On August 09 2010 12:19 DarthThienAn wrote: It's okay I still haven't read pages 25-40, but it doesn't seem like I've missed much. :D PLEASE READ THE THREAD. Ugh. | ||
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On August 09 2010 12:26 DarthThienAn wrote: I have an idea. My suggestion is that we coordinate better if we know what units we have on the field. The mafia will be forced to lie, and if we coordinate early enough there is no way we can lose all of our good pieces. Every game where I've seen people nameclaim or roleclaim I've seen the town win as far as I can remember. Do you guys want to win? I am very competitive. I know I like to. I will risk my life for you guys. Feel free to claim to me. If everyone would just trust me this one time, we could have an epic game. Basically, I'm waiting to hear about more of what went down Night 1. >>. Fucking BM. Initials fit him so well. | ||
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On August 09 2010 12:36 DarthThienAn wrote: Hmm.. I don't really see the mafia opted out of a roleblock. It's like a 1/3 chance of getting a blue, and with LSB's plan all over the front page last night, they definitely wouldn't pass they opportunity up.. Eh could happen if my list was right :/ how bout we lynch BM and sees about it? Yes, I think so. | ||
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