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On August 07 2010 17:40 Bill Murray wrote:
i'm not red bro
you need to drop that

On August 07 2010 18:24 Bill Murray wrote:
you tried to steal my plan
if anything, your plan is like my plan, except it is worse because it risks a lot of blues potentially, whereas mine risks one.

respond to why we should lay all our cards out on the table when there are roleblockers, framers, and ninjas lurking out there, and convince me, and i'll back off. i want this whole planning stage to end, really, so we can start scumhunting

On August 07 2010 18:33 Bill Murray wrote:
I just hope I'm not lynched for being an idiot and trying to help the town

On August 07 2010 18:57 youngminii wrote:
Anyone get the feeling these guys are scum and are arguing with each other to distract town from any real progress?

Just sayin, 'cause when I opened this thread I felt like I had stepped into a clusterfuck of a warzone.

On August 07 2010 19:08 Bill Murray wrote:
ok, but since you "modified" my idea, you've ruined it.
you are letting a roleblocker ruin a circle potentially
the way i am doing it limits it to 1 person who needs to be pmed, the way you all have modified it makes it to where multiple people have to do multiple things. you all are also indicating to him where to go, which doesn't confirm shit.

it needs to be called BEFORE and BY the person. We can't say "Go to house A" or we won't know who the fucking tracker is in the first place. Your "idea" which suspiciously came RIGHT after mine is like the mafia-influenced variant of my idea. It enables multiple people to know where to go.

What I want the tracker to do is to roleclaim and to call his shot. Mafia won't do this unless they want to trade a roleblocker or framer for a tracker, which they won't want to. I'd take that trade. I really don't believe a ninja would want to get mixed up in that shit, either.

On August 07 2010 19:15 Bill Murray wrote:
your plan isn't good.
let me explain this in language even a 14 year old would understand:

watcher watches player a
tracker tracks player a
framer frames player a
roleblocker blocks player a

watcher sees tracker, framer, roleblocker, but doesn't know who is who

This is my plan:
watcher watches the claimed tracker who says he's visiting player a
tracker visits player a = we trust him
tracker doesn't visit player a = we discuss lynching him

On August 07 2010 19:16 Pandain wrote:


ahaha, if that happens, that's the best thing ever. We get BOTH of the special roles for mafia. The watcher will know everyone, and basically we can medic protect the watcher and then lynch the other 3. Sure, we might lose a tracker but we'll get a framer and a roleblocker. Better evidence please.

On August 07 2010 19:19 Bill Murray wrote:

you act like we'll KNOW they're mafia. We won't.

On August 07 2010 19:22 Bill Murray wrote:
blues ignoring plan but reds not ignoring it, fakeclaiming blue, and raping us....

not like that ever happens....
or happened last game....
na,
no way, jose

On August 07 2010 20:04 XeliN wrote:
I have to say Bill and Pandain if you guys end up both being mafia I'll be exceptionally suprised, would show some great dedication to faking conflict this early in the game.

On August 07 2010 20:06 Pandain wrote:


watcher has to deal with these people
-1

Hmm... unless someone else can offer anything, this may be right. The chance of there being two dts is enough to be taken seriously.
Thoughts about this? I'd like to try to save the plan if possible?

On August 07 2010 20:20 Pandain wrote:
With the State of the Pandain Plan in question I still know that I can rely on my original plan, getting people to talk. With that, I'm going on vacation. I should have internet there so I'll be posting, dw. But don't know if I'll be back in time for the vote.

So I'm voting Roffles. I'm sorry man, you can't just make one post so far, and that one post saying you don't care about anything anyone's saying. That doesn't help anyone at all. With that, I'm voting him.

On August 08 2010 07:54 Foolishness wrote:

If you argue that the town will benefit from killing someone with a big ego, I'm sure you could contend to get him lynch. I'd surely vote for him; I think you could get a few more.

On August 08 2010 08:29 Foolishness wrote:
I'm voting to keep BM alive.

On August 08 2010 11:51 Bill Murray wrote:
i told you all we should have lynched foolishness or someone who is actually red

On August 08 2010 12:39 tree.hugger wrote:

You two are suddenly working together? Wait, what?

And I've never been in a game where we got red with the first kill. There's a ton of factors that make it really difficult to pull off, but mainly it's just that we don't have good evidence on anyone. And that's no matter what you know, or (more likely) think you know about Foolishness or anyone else. We'll have more evidence after tonight, I guess.

I don't think Foolishness is mafia, and I don't think you've proved it in any way.

On August 08 2010 13:08 Foolishness wrote:

Aren't you supposed to be arguing with BM? I recall you making multiple posts about how when BM flips red I'm for sure his mafia buddy. Which is strange as a whole since BM has been actively opposing me for a while now...but I guess that's just cause he realized you were obviously townie so he turned to look at the next best player who could be mafia and here I was!

Say, have you dared to notice how this thread has been dominated by the same 10ish people? I mean surely you have to have realized that you've been holding conversations in the thread with the same people over and over and over again.

I only happened to take notice when I decided to make a list of the inactive/lurkers. And I got 16-20 people on that list, give or take.

And now I beg to wonder...when you, BM, Divinek, Pandain, and youngminii are through killing each other off, how you going to find the rest of the mafia? Do you even have any idea who among the lurkers is probably innocent and who's suspicious? Probably not because you're busy formulating the town plan and looking at the active players (there's nothing wrong with this at all, I'm just saying how it is).

Now it seems very reasonable to me (and I'd hope a few others) that all you goody active players just toss your ego's aside for a moment and take care to notice of the fact that good players who are normally active are pretty much mia this entire game (i.e. Chezinu, Infundibulum, DTA). Not to mention some veteran is smurfing under the name VayeshMoru. Perhaps we should be looking here since when the lot of you are finish killing yourselves off the town is going to be screwed. And I do realize that there's a better chance I'm going to invent a perpetual motion device tomorrow than of this happening, but I guess I just secretly hope someone takes note of this and learns from it.

I don't see any reason why this game isn't a repeat of the one BM hosted. Mafia sit back and do nothing and watch town kill themselves. Yes I realize it got a tad bit complicated in the middle but still.

I know you're probably thinking at some point "Well hey Foolishness, you are normally more active that you're currently being why should we pay more attention to Chezinu than you?" Truth is, I don't have time to deal with all your "town plans" that probably aren't going to work and your suspicions against me. I got a job to do, I'm weeding out mafia members among the lurkers. And that's what I do best. It's day one and I don't got much to go on since nobody is pressuring any of the lurkers, but I'd like to think I'm getting somewhere with it. And there are more than enough people that can vouch that I'm active in PM land.

You go do what you do. I'm going to go do what I do. I'll talk to you when it's necessary and I have information. If you or BM or anyone keep taking one-liner shots at me in the thread, don't expect a response, I don't have the time.

On August 08 2010 15:08 Bill Murray wrote:

i doubt all 3 of us will be alive (if foolishness is town with us), honestly