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Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 09 2010 22:36 GMT
#361
People have already slipped up, just look at the amount of times people have put words in my mouth about things that I haven't said. Remember that time I caught both Dr.H and L on Day 1 in that game because they kept slipping up trying to undermine my awesomeness by stating things that just weren't true?

:D
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 09 2010 22:39 GMT
#362
in the one with the gambinos and genoveses?
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
August 09 2010 22:39 GMT
#363
wait, it was sumiyoshi.
University of Kentucky Basketball #1
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 09 2010 22:44 GMT
#364
Yea I think that's the one. But the most damning thing about all of this is that not only have they argued with me, but not a single one of them has come up with a new idea or direction to go on. All this complaining about blue roles dying and no positive input on doing something to help. Do these sound like pro town moves to you?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 22:45 GMT
#365
On August 10 2010 07:44 Ace wrote:
Yea I think that's the one. But the most damning thing about all of this is that not only have they argued with me, but not a single one of them has come up with a new idea or direction to go on. All this complaining about blue roles dying and no positive input on doing something to help. Do these sound like pro town moves to you?

You of all people should know that no blue confirmation plan is necessary for town to win.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 09 2010 22:49 GMT
#366
On August 10 2010 07:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I am detective.
When I am dead, go after:

Ace: Mafia
Bill Murray: Mafia / Ass

Sorry to town for playing like shit this game. GJ Ace for defenestrating the town with a scummy plan that couldn't be argued against effectively without the blues giving themselves away. The greens will see it as harmless and jump in, isolating, identifying and FoSing the blues who will be hurt by it. Very clever.



I lol'd.

Let me get this straight...

You are a detective right? But you must wait TWO days to act?

L
O
L

So you can't use your powers at all on Night 1, but somehow using it on Night 2 makes it all better? But you admit you played like shit this game, as if that's a reason to take sympathy on you.

Ignoring your play though this is what your entire role looks like:

You are a detective. Your penalty is that you can't act until Night 2.

Yea, ok. Whatever. If this is true then we all might as well stop playing this game because all our roles would be so bad I don't think Hessmyrr would have even created the game. Town would have no chance due to the possibility of starting off with a good shot of 2 mislynches (2 Day 1's) and the chance of 2 power roles getting clocked before we get it straight.

You're bullshitting.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 09 2010 22:50 GMT
#367
On August 10 2010 07:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 07:44 Ace wrote:
Yea I think that's the one. But the most damning thing about all of this is that not only have they argued with me, but not a single one of them has come up with a new idea or direction to go on. All this complaining about blue roles dying and no positive input on doing something to help. Do these sound like pro town moves to you?

You of all people should know that no blue confirmation plan is necessary for town to win.


And once again you're putting words in my mouth. Show me where I said I'm making a blue confirmation plan. Hell, show me ANYWHERE where I've said I'm valuing blue roles over green?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
August 09 2010 22:52 GMT
#368
I believe he said his actions dont get registered til two days after, which is long time for such a small game, Id imagine mafia have some harsh penalties to compensate. Like no KP :D one can hope.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 22:52 GMT
#369
On August 10 2010 07:50 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 07:45 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
On August 10 2010 07:44 Ace wrote:
Yea I think that's the one. But the most damning thing about all of this is that not only have they argued with me, but not a single one of them has come up with a new idea or direction to go on. All this complaining about blue roles dying and no positive input on doing something to help. Do these sound like pro town moves to you?

You of all people should know that no blue confirmation plan is necessary for town to win.


And once again you're putting words in my mouth. Show me where I said I'm making a blue confirmation plan. Hell, show me ANYWHERE where I've said I'm valuing blue roles over green?

I'm not talking to you anymore, you haven't been responding to me honestly or straight forwardly all game long; everything I post, you answer to something I haven't said.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 22:53 GMT
#370
I can't post my role PM due to roles so I will paraphrase.

My checking takes longer than usual because I am Cautious Detective.

If I submit a check night one, I get the result at the end of night 2 / start of day 3.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 22:53 GMT
#371
*due to rules
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 22:54 GMT
#372
On August 10 2010 07:49 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 07:35 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I am detective.
When I am dead, go after:

Ace: Mafia
Bill Murray: Mafia / Ass

Sorry to town for playing like shit this game. GJ Ace for defenestrating the town with a scummy plan that couldn't be argued against effectively without the blues giving themselves away. The greens will see it as harmless and jump in, isolating, identifying and FoSing the blues who will be hurt by it. Very clever.



I lol'd.

Let me get this straight...

You are a detective right? But you must wait TWO days to act?

L
O
L

So you can't use your powers at all on Night 1, but somehow using it on Night 2 makes it all better? But you admit you played like shit this game, as if that's a reason to take sympathy on you.

Ignoring your play though this is what your entire role looks like:

You are a detective. Your penalty is that you can't act until Night 2.

Yea, ok. Whatever. If this is true then we all might as well stop playing this game because all our roles would be so bad I don't think Hessmyrr would have even created the game. Town would have no chance due to the possibility of starting off with a good shot of 2 mislynches (2 Day 1's) and the chance of 2 power roles getting clocked before we get it straight.

You're bullshitting.

You're right, it does suck. That's why I thought maybe we had a mute role that knew a mafia day 1.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 09 2010 22:54 GMT
#373
On August 10 2010 07:52 bumatlarge wrote:
I believe he said his actions dont get registered til two days after, which is long time for such a small game, Id imagine mafia have some harsh penalties to compensate. Like no KP :D one can hope.


That's the thing, the mafia don't have any penalties.

@Pyrr: You know if you really wanted to save yourself you'd be trying to convince the rest of the town to change their vote. Not me. But you don't even seem like you care about living so if you die to a lynch it's your own fault. Toodles ^_^
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 09 2010 22:56 GMT
#374
On August 10 2010 07:29 Ace wrote:
Keep trying to scare people into penalties = blue sniping bullshit LSB. I also never said I don't want to take care of BM, I just find Pyrr far more scummy. Like I said this is very simple If your assumption is true then tell me what everyone's role is right now. None of you can because you don't know. I've asked this a good what, 7 times now?

I also don't care about Pyrr's claim because I think he's scummy. If Pyrr wants to save himself he can just role claim before the lynch if shit gets that bad. Otherwise my vote stays - he's made way too many mistakes on Day 1 to be playing this bad.

Also I did not chainsaw defend Bill Murray, get your terms straight if you want to be taken seriously and not looked at as scum. LSB when are you actually going to contribute anything to the town instead of trying to attack me?

You were answered multiple times Ace: nobody cares WHICH blue role people have. Knowing they are blue is bad enough.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 09 2010 22:57 GMT
#375
you dont KNOW who's blue. I've already proved it by showing the examples Hessmyrr used. READ THE THREAD.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 09 2010 23:01 GMT
#376
On August 09 2010 23:14 citi.zen wrote:
I wonder about these apparently conflicting statements:

Show nested quote +
On August 08 2010 09:23 Ace wrote:
Majority of mafia games are no PM ^_^

With basically no information needless to say we are in a bad position to start off. But fear not! Based on reading my role PM I can make some guesses as to what's possibly a good idea. I think my role, while not powerful is potentially good enough to almost break the game if my hunch is correct. Let me think about what other possible penalties are available.

Versus this one:

Show nested quote +
On August 09 2010 07:07 Ace wrote:
The problem here is that Pyrr made up Bill Murray's penalty for him, and BM being who he is ran with it. So far Pyrr has twice tried to undermine me without really thinking straight. Thanks to Jayme though for actually making some sense.

P.S. - I don't care if I die, I don't get mad or take this game seriously.

Anyway here is the full plan now that we have more people here.

1.) Knowing what I know about my own role PM, I know my role is almost surely weak. As in if I ever acted out my role the town would lose because it not only stops me from role claiming but I'm the worst person in this game to get this kind of role. The only way this role would work is if I had a hidden condition the mod didn't give me. Being that I can't know that and even if I did it would still be somewhat underpowered...
[...]

I am not ready to push for a lynching of Ace, but these sort of conflicting statements are not giving me any comfort, especially in conjunction with the claim that we need to state our penalty, but not the roles, so we can "figure out how the game is balanced". You need both pieces as far as I can tell. The only thing the penalties tell me thus far is some people have "actions" and others do not - which seems to be quite valuable for the mafia while not helping the town a great deal.

Still waiting on your conflicting statements to be reconciled.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Pyrrhuloxia
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States6700 Posts
August 09 2010 23:01 GMT
#377
On August 10 2010 07:54 Ace wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 07:52 bumatlarge wrote:
I believe he said his actions dont get registered til two days after, which is long time for such a small game, Id imagine mafia have some harsh penalties to compensate. Like no KP :D one can hope.


That's the thing, the mafia don't have any penalties.

@Pyrr: You know if you really wanted to save yourself you'd be trying to convince the rest of the town to change their vote. Not me. But you don't even seem like you care about living so if you die to a lynch it's your own fault. Toodles ^_^

If I don't get lynched, you just kill me tonight before I can use my role. If I die, people see why your plan was scummy and apparently that's the wake up call this town needs because they've been ignoring logic from LSB and I.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 09 2010 23:02 GMT
#378
It's not conflicting at all. I've got something that's potentially game breaking but could also make the town lose.

What's conflicting about that?
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
August 09 2010 23:02 GMT
#379
On August 10 2010 07:57 Ace wrote:
you dont KNOW who's blue. I've already proved it by showing the examples Hessmyrr used. READ THE THREAD.

Cute. I replied, and you know it. Those examples were easy to read.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
August 09 2010 23:03 GMT
#380
On August 10 2010 08:01 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 10 2010 07:54 Ace wrote:
On August 10 2010 07:52 bumatlarge wrote:
I believe he said his actions dont get registered til two days after, which is long time for such a small game, Id imagine mafia have some harsh penalties to compensate. Like no KP :D one can hope.


That's the thing, the mafia don't have any penalties.

@Pyrr: You know if you really wanted to save yourself you'd be trying to convince the rest of the town to change their vote. Not me. But you don't even seem like you care about living so if you die to a lynch it's your own fault. Toodles ^_^

If I don't get lynched, you just kill me tonight before I can use my role. If I die, people see why your plan was scummy and apparently that's the wake up call this town needs because they've been ignoring logic from LSB and I.


*yawn*

Stop talking to me and appeal to the town. I'm not changing my vote. Talk to everyone else and make your case if you're so innocent. Come on, this is basic Mafia gameplay 101. Stop playing like shit and man up.
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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