Penalty Mafia - Page 17

On August 09 2010 14:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
"Secondly you've done a very fast flip to vote on Bill Murray with no good reasoning."

I don't need good reasoning, I'm about to get killed when someone who has lied to town all day is getting off scott free and the guy he was trying to kill doesn't give a shit.

On August 09 2010 15:22 Jayme wrote:


This is the only point with you I'm willing to agree with. It's pretty much a cardinal rule that a townie is not to lie...ever. The thing is you basically pushed said blue rule on BM and he went with it.

My penalty is that I look extremely guilty.

On August 09 2010 14:21 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
"Secondly you've done a very fast flip to vote on Bill Murray with no good reasoning."

I don't need good reasoning, I'm about to get killed when someone who has lied to town all day is getting off scott free and the guy he was trying to kill doesn't give a shit.

On August 09 2010 07:07 Ace wrote:
The problem here is that Pyrr made up Bill Murray's penalty for him, and BM being who he is ran with it. So far Pyrr has twice tried to undermine me without really thinking straight. Thanks to Jayme though for actually making some sense.

P.S. - I don't care if I die, I don't get mad or take this game seriously.

Anyway here is the full plan now that we have more people here.

1.) Knowing what I know about my own role PM, I know my role is almost surely weak. As in if I ever acted out my role the town would lose because it not only stops me from role claiming but I'm the worst person in this game to get this kind of role. The only way this role would work is if I had a hidden condition the mod didn't give me. Being that I can't know that and even if I did it would still be somewhat underpowered...

2.) The town has to have a Vigilante or some kind of night killing role. It would be damn near impossible to confirm innocents if all the town players have penalties. However here's where our only known advantage at the moment comes in:



This tells us 2 things:

The town roles have penalties and the scum don't. Even with a safe fake claims from the mod we know this to be true and I'll get back to this soon. Secondly we know Bill Murray is bullshitting and this makes me even more suspicious of Pyrr. Bill Murray can't have a post restriction because the op says there aren't any!. So why are people seriously pointing fingers at me for nonsense when the "proof" Bill Murray is offering is banned by the very OP of the game? Good question if I do say so myself.

Back to the penalty claims. If any townies have penalties then you'll know based on your OWN role PM which penalties should make sense when we all claim them. We should all reveal our penalties in a way that doesn't make it blatantly obvious what our roles are since even Vanilla Townies have penalties. For example this is my penalty in a nutshell:

Anything I do must be telegraphed to the rest of the player base if it is a valid action.

If you're town-aligned and you have a similar penalty you should be able to understand what that means. If you don't as more people claim their penalties we'll start to make sense of this. The idea here is that penalties that the town have should make sense in the game because we know our roles are weakened. With this in mind once everyone penalty claims before anyone else dies then we have all 13 players information. Once someone dies and their roles is revealed we scratch their penalties out we can start making sense of what other penalties would be in the game that could possibly make it balanced.

Oh before I forget so you guys don't try and kill me off of some bullshit.

## vote Pyrr

On August 09 2010 18:14 Ace wrote:


stop squirming.

I've already said I'm of the idea we'll deal with Bill Murray later. I find you more suspicious though. You had the motive, situation and the behavior to do something any anti-town player would have done on Day 1 with Bill Murray in the game.

On August 09 2010 14:19 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
You wanna know my penalty?

I can perform a certain action but it doesn't go through until two mornings later.

On August 08 2010 09:23 Ace wrote:
Majority of mafia games are no PM ^_^

With basically no information needless to say we are in a bad position to start off. But fear not! Based on reading my role PM I can make some guesses as to what's possibly a good idea. I think my role, while not powerful is potentially good enough to almost break the game if my hunch is correct. Let me think about what other possible penalties are available.

On August 09 2010 07:07 Ace wrote:
The problem here is that Pyrr made up Bill Murray's penalty for him, and BM being who he is ran with it. So far Pyrr has twice tried to undermine me without really thinking straight. Thanks to Jayme though for actually making some sense.

P.S. - I don't care if I die, I don't get mad or take this game seriously.

Anyway here is the full plan now that we have more people here.

1.) Knowing what I know about my own role PM, I know my role is almost surely weak. As in if I ever acted out my role the town would lose because it not only stops me from role claiming but I'm the worst person in this game to get this kind of role. The only way this role would work is if I had a hidden condition the mod didn't give me. Being that I can't know that and even if I did it would still be somewhat underpowered...
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On August 09 2010 23:03 LSB wrote:
Guys, focus on BM
I am guilty of this myself, letting my personal feelings get in the way. But we right now can't afford to start diverting votes from BM in order to start bashing Ace or Pyrr.
We've determined that BM is either A) Mafia, or B) a townie that just wants to make our lives difficult. Either way, this is Anti-Town.

As for Ace's plan

Pyrr obviously has a blue action. Looks like this plan made blue sniping a lot easier for the scum

On August 09 2010 23:23 zeks wrote:
agreed, lynching BM should be our first course of action - will make things easier when we decide to out Ace or Pyrr