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SouthRawrea
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Last Edited: 2010-07-06 23:43:26
July 06 2010 23:42 GMT
#45
I would like to request to be in this game.
SouthRawrea
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July 13 2010 21:04 GMT
#89
They belong forever in my heart.
SouthRawrea
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July 15 2010 02:32 GMT
#118
I'd be fine with 25 but let's wait a little longer and see if we can get a few more to fill the spots please :D.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 00:07:24
July 17 2010 00:06 GMT
#181
Isn't that how it's normally played though? You can't really have counter-claims without knowing how many of each role there are. You can have 1/2 the people claim infested terran without knowing how many there are supposed to be, you don't know if any are lying or not. They could all be telling the truth :/

Edit:
On July 17 2010 09:05 Foolishness wrote:

Depends. At least do we know the mafia count?

The whole "let's not reveal how many of each role" is a rather recent thing on TL. Although I'm probably in a very small minority when I say I don't like it and think that role count should be revealed.


I'd have to agree.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 17 2010 01:48 GMT
#198
We should like.. have a village bonfire where we eat marshmallows and tell spookie stories in the afternoon.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-17 23:12:20
July 17 2010 13:57 GMT
#274
####Vote Abstain
SouthRawrea
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Last Edited: 2010-07-19 00:59:45
July 19 2010 00:59 GMT
#490
My take on this is we should take it easy Day 1 and just individually take note of inactives/suspicious individuals until we get our power roles in action tonight. Sure we may end up lynching one of the Reds and it does indeed help to lynch scummy players in order to lessen the number suspects in a future lynch but Random Lynching on Day 1 also allows Reds to gain a foothold in swaying the opinions of players in a future 50/50 situation (ex: Player X is active since Day 1 and seems to be pro-town but is in actuality a mafia. Both him and a Player Y, a cop, counter-claim each other with conflicting reports several days later and the town is given a 50/50 shot at lynching the right person but the other cop hasn't been speaking as much in fear of revealing the fact that he is a cop to the mafia through unintentional, implicit clues. The rest of the village trusts Player X because he seems to be more Pro-Town than Player Y.) and we risk the possibility of lynching one of our power roles early on. Just my 2 cents on why I voted to abstain from lynching.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 19 2010 23:04 GMT
#553
Talking at night is stupid D:. It takes away from what the game is supposed to be.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 21 2010 01:55 GMT
#801
Sorry about that, I was kind of busy today but then again I'm not really sorry. Something unexpected came up. I just read over the entire thing (wow this thing expands quickly) and I'm going to say that I'm not quite used to this style of mafia where there's large periods of silence and posts start flooding in for a while.
I would like to point out that it may have been a good idea for a single "vet" to out himself. Here is where a detective would announce himself as vet. If there were any others, they could simply send a PM over to the alleged vet and ask if they are actually a different role posing as vet and alert them that they're going to counter-claim them. The "fake" vet could then ask the entire thread for any "vet" counter-claims because if there were another one, it'd basically give the village a 50/50 or on a double lynch a 100% chance of getting the mafia. However because the fake and real vet already know of each other, there would be no probable counter-claims. Once that has been established, the "fake vet" could then ask for role claims to be sent to him in the form of PMs and ask the doctor PMs to protect him in case the mafia is on to his scheme. He could then lead the village and have possible suspects in case the real roles PMed to him die. A little too late for it but I thought it'd be a good plan for maybe a future game now as it'd benefit the village I believe.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 21 2010 02:19 GMT
#807
Um this is getting a bit too heated in my opinion but this may all just be coming from the fact that chaoser is furiously trying to get the town's suspicion placed on Subversion or he's reading wayyy too much into the words typed out by Subversion. This is his first game and I can emphasize with him because you don't quite think out every thing you type especially in your first game. If I try to help my team (because I've played a couple of forum games before) I generally type furiously without reading over what I've typed and trying to think how that would read to another player. Also, I'm pretty sure Subversion hasn't mentioned you. I do think you're trying too hard to tunnel him (not sure if that term is used here). However, it's not like you're voting him or anything which makes me inclined to think that you're just trying to defend yourself and help the village in general. I don't see why you'd go for Subversion instead of an inactive such as me.

##Vote Chaoser

I would abstain but we can afford a mislynch now and we have a bit of information to work with especially because the detectives have their reports and we have a claim. This generally works in our favour as there hasn't been a lucky kill for the mafia and there is alot more text to read upon for scumtells. Also we get more info now. (Not quite sure how this works in my head but I imagine a detective claim from someone getting lynched day 2 is much more convincing than one on day 1 especially because they have a report now)

SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-21 02:40:38
July 21 2010 02:39 GMT
#811
On July 21 2010 11:30 chaoser wrote:


You'll notice that 1) In my previous post I stated I no longer was that suspicious of him. 2) I'm not even voting for him anymore 3) I was initially arguing for BrownBear's lynch. So wrong on all three counts. Thanks for trying to misrepresent me though.



1) It could very well possible you act that way because of the pressure beginning to build on you now shown with 2 votes +mine. 2) Addressed that already. 3) WUT
On July 21 2010 11:01 chaoser wrote:
I didn't like the initial bandwagon on BrownBear

On July 21 2010 11:30 chaoser wrote:
I was initially arguing for BrownBear's lynch.
Explain #3
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 21 2010 23:40 GMT
#990
Maybe there's a fool in the game with the simple objective of trying to get lynched? Also, getting a fool/mafia vibe from DTA that can happen in the event that both are present in a game. Gonna assume there isn't one unless BM added one in secretly and consider DTA for lynching as well. I'll actually bandwagon if a lynch occurs later or perhaps start it on another day just because as I'm continuing to read, some of my suspicions are beginning to coincide with some of those who suspect him. Overall though, not a huge suspect on my list.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 22 2010 00:04 GMT
#1005
On July 22 2010 08:52 chaoser wrote:
think that's the vote, modified BM's to be more recent, well good bye town, take note of last minute votes on me


Will do. Also thanks for keeping tabs of votes. I've actually very recently been considering other candidates for the lynch but I'm not prepared to go for a double lynch at the moment nor am I inclined to change my vote on you. If you have any info or suspicions and you're not mafia then please go ahead and tell us just before the day ends. Every little bit helps. Sorry for voting you out of the game so early (assuming it happens in 5hours).
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-07-22 01:43:23
July 22 2010 01:41 GMT
#1075
Edit: Removed because what I wrote made no sense.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 22 2010 01:48 GMT
#1087
On July 22 2010 10:41 Subversion wrote:
Look, I've already softclaimed blue.

Which was obviously a mistake since I gave mafia information, I was told that was stupid via PM and I agree.

It is NOT useful to lynch someone who has a valuable town skill!

I guarantee you lynching me is not going to give you information, and is really going to set you back. Please fucking think about this now. I am NOT the best candidate. Lynching me is hugely risky, on account that I am telling the truth.

Things we know about me:

Claim blue
Am noob - 1st mafia game essentially
Vote based on one stupid remark, and a well defended day 1 vote

Things we know about DTA:

Claims not mafia, no claim of anything useful
Highly skilled and experienced player
Vote based on detailed post analysis and him playing out of character

You lynch me, and I'm mafia, then you "apparently" have youngminii too. Any mafia is good so thats okay, although I disagree about youngminii. I really don't feel he's been a major supporter of mine. You lynch me, and I'm innocent, you lose a blue player, and gain zero information.

You lynch DTA and he's mafia, then you have chaoser too. Since they did a little band together and vote for me trick, and chaoser seemed to jumkp on my bandwagon awfully fast. You also lynch a highly skilled and threatening player. You lynch him and he's innocent, you lose a vanilla townie who doesn't seem to be putting much effort into the game anyway, based on what people expect from him due to prior games.

I am NOT the best lynch candidate, and the evidence against me is dismal.



Wait why even claim blue? DTA is first on the lynch priority it seems for now. I don't quite see why chaoser would automatically be mafia if DTA is either. Sure they band-wagoned a bit but what kind of mafia would do that inside the official thread? I think you're jumping to conclusions here but I do believe that you're blue. Medic on him just in case? It seems more likely to me that one of them may be mafia and they could be utilizing the fact that the other player wants to stay alive as well and are thus band-wagoning on to you. I agree that you're not the best lynch candidate though.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 22 2010 01:55 GMT
#1093
I recieved a PM and I would just like to make a public apology about removing one of my posts and I will place it's content as best as I can remember in this post. It went something like this.

We should let DTA stay alive an extra day if he is the mad hatter in order to place an extra bomb and lynch him tomorrow.

I then went back to page one to read about it an realized that the people he placed his bombs on would die when he was lynched as well so I removed the message in a hurry. Sorry for not only placing a stupid message but for editing my post. Please spare me the mod-kill D:. Hopefully someone read my post and can confirm this. It was up for a couple minutes I believe.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 22 2010 02:08 GMT
#1116
On July 22 2010 11:00 Subversion wrote:
Also, I don't know what wifom means


WIFOM= Wine in front of me

Not sure how to explain it but it basically is the situation where you're thinking this could be a green or a blue hiding himself as a green to not get killed or a green hiding himself as a blue hiding himself as a green to protect the blues or a blue hiding himself as a green as a blue as a green.. etc
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 22 2010 02:10 GMT
#1119
On July 22 2010 11:09 Subversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 22 2010 11:08 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 22 2010 11:00 Subversion wrote:
Also, I don't know what wifom means


WIFOM= Wine in front of me

Not sure how to explain it but it basically is the situation where you're thinking this could be a green or a blue hiding himself as a green to not get killed or a green hiding himself as a blue hiding himself as a green to protect the blues or a blue hiding himself as a green as a blue as a green.. etc


lolz, worlds most confusing paragraph xD


I try <3
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 22 2010 02:17 GMT
#1133
On July 22 2010 11:13 chaoser wrote:


THIS is WIFOM

Sigh, I don't even know what to think anymore. At this point I feel like none of us are mafia ;_;. Since both DTA and Subversion are soft claiming blue, I don't mind if I get lynched. I'm only green btw.



Subversion hard claimed blue.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 22 2010 03:00 GMT
#1181
Gonna leave my vote the way it is. Gonna sleep for tonight gotta get up early tomorrow.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 23 2010 00:07 GMT
#1434
On July 23 2010 08:00 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Also, some collected important info:

+ Show Spoiler [Day 1 Votes] +

Hyperbola (6)
Divinek
Pandain
SiNiquity
bumatlarge
Brownbear
Subversion

Youngminii (5)
XeliN
Amber[Light]
Roffles
Infundibulum
Jayme

Abstain (6)
LaXerCannon
tricode
SouthRawrea
chaoser
protactinium
zeks

DTA (3)
d3_crescentia
Pyrrhuloxia
tree.hugger

ketomai (2)
citi.zen
lakrismamma

Amber[Light] (1)
DTA

BloodyCobbler (2)
OpZ
Foolishness
LaXerCannon (1)
Misder

Citi.zen (1)
rastaban

SiNiquity (1)
Hyperbola

Pandain (1)
BloodyCobbler

Infundibulum (1)
youngminii


+ Show Spoiler [Day 2 votes] +

DTA (10)
Pyrrhuloxia
XeliN
zeks
Subversion
LaXerCannon
rastaban
OpZ
Protactinium
chaoser
Pandain

chaoser (8)
youngminii
Roffles
SouthRawrea
misder
citi.zen
BrownBear
Divinek
SiNiquity

Subversion (7)
tree.hugger
bumatlarge
jayme
Amber[Light]
Infundibulum
DTA
d3_crescentia

Amber[Light] (1)
Bloody Cobbler

Abstain (2)
lakrismamma
tricode



People who overlapped on Hyperbola and DTA lynch votes:
Pandain
Subversion

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Hyperbola's "Death Post"
On July 19 2010 08:08 Hyperbola wrote:
Guys, really?
Okay so I'm pretty much lynched because you people can't take a joke. So I'm leaving this as my legacy:

People I think are mafia or atleast seem fishy:

Brown Bear

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On July 19 2010 06:29 BrownBear wrote:
Ahhhh shti!

I am back, sorry. Is it too late to avoid modkill?

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On July 19 2010 06:30 BrownBear wrote:
###Vote: Hyperbola

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On July 19 2010 06:31 BrownBear wrote:
Whew, looks like I got back in time. Sorry about that. Time to go read the thread.

Really dude? Jumping on a bandwagon before even reading the thread?

youngminii

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On July 18 2010 21:01 youngminii wrote:
Actually, I'm not going to overlook it. Why would you place a vote on me 'just in case'? Especially after you heard BC say I was a strong player (which citi.zen evidently disagrees with)? You have these two guys criticising my post when it's not even serious, you jump on this bandwagon and then put a placeholder vote on me just in case?

Does this not strike you as scummy at all? Overly scummy but scummy nonetheless? In fact, I think this is the scummiest post I have seen all game (not that long). However, I don't think you're really that bad at this game and even a mediocre scum wouldn't do that kind of mistake. Will need confirmation on other more experienced TL mafia players on your meta.


You are entirely too defensive when a person puts a vote on you as a placeholder. Either you are scum or a very nervous blue.

You also endorse no lynching on the first day to appear to be "pro-life" and "for the town". I really don't see your reasoning behind this because a random shot in the dark of inactives or suspicious players can in fact nab a red. And if it doesn't you only lose a green because a blue would at least roleclaim or try to join up with trust circles to avoid getting lynched in this manner. (Divided blues that don't make connections are really hindering the town).

SiNiquity

I had absolutely no evidence against you before but now you are starting to stink of scum

at first you took my accusal of you as a joke and brushed it off, but when people started accusing me of being mafia you saw an opportunity and went into action to provide as much evidence as you could find against me by even looking into past games. Then you just completely shut your mouth and is now waiting for the situation to close to start talking again (afraid you'll say something to bring attention to you and me being the perfect scapegoat).

Also your previous posts were really try-hard in my opinion. You contributed absolutely nothing by typing up lengthy posts that just summarized what everyone said. Besides that you clarified and discussed some rules of the game and such. You want to make it seem like you are contributing and keep a neutral and non aggressive stance like a reporter so no one would suspect you.

This could just be your playstyle but it seems like a very cautious red one to me.

LaXerCannon

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On July 18 2010 09:30 LaXerCannon wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:04 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
If we randomly pick someone, we have a better chance of getting a blue then a red. Why don't we try voting for who we think is red? It's not like the game will automatically get easier for us as it goes on, since there aren't any clues. Also, at this point everyone's votes are spread out so we are nearly guaranteed an innocent lynch. Getting everyone to agree to vote for the random could be awfully tough.

IF we wanted to do the random thing, we could tie it in advance to something numerical in one or both of the playoff games tonight. Like number of factories made by WeMade players, or that number divided by two, or taking the number of letters in each winning player's ID and looping back to 1 if it goes over 30. It wouldn't be random, but we could independently agree on it, and none of us could influence it in advance. We don't know the distribution of red/blue/green in the list so it is almost as good as random unless the reds get us to agree on a bad number (like maybe they get us to agree on something times 2, which would never land on the first person on the list).


We can take this step further by listing inactives in reverse order and numbering them from 1-X, use a number we obtain from the second paragraph and count through the list, looping when needed.

I'm getting carried away here...

I think lynching an inactive player is the best course of action.

I also think we should get a list of players who are new to this mafia game so we know who they are. A new player who's scum can easily hide under that mask; I think it's best we can monitor them from the get go.

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On July 18 2010 09:33 LaXerCannon wrote:
##Abstain in case I can't find it within myself to wake up early tomorrow to post (no other time >_>)

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On July 18 2010 11:38 LaXerCannon wrote:
On July 18 2010 10:40 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 10:13 SiNiquity wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:59 youngminii wrote:
On July 18 2010 09:51 Bill Murray wrote:
EVERYONE abstaining? I guess it'd no lynch. Didn't expect that to happen!

Okay so everyone should abstain imo. If you have any objections to this idea, please raise it asap because we need everyone to switch their vote to abstaining. Even one vote = lynch and that will be very suspicious of the person who left their vote by 'accident'.

##Unvote Pyrr
##Vote Abstain

I'm not sure I like it. The inactives will get modkilled, no one gets lynched, the mafia kills 2 more people, and then we're back at square one, no?


On July 18 2010 10:16 Jayme wrote:
No-Lynch?

Oh hell no absolutely not.

I don't understand how a no-lynch is beneficial to the town if you're going to kill an inactive anyway. You learn absolutely nothing from it, you don't even have a CHANCE at hitting a red, and you're basically wasting a whole day on nothing.

No lynch is a terrible idea.

If we lynch someone on the first day without any good reason there's a solid chance (12/15) that we'll hit a townie. That's 80%. There's also a better chance of lynching a blue than there is of scum. A no lynch is a gift that we should utilize instead of RVS.


Bad idea, there's no incentive for town to post -> silent town = dead town

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On July 18 2010 16:13 LaXerCannon wrote:
playoffs are done for today! my next post will be in....around 16-18 hours.

First LaxerCannon recommends lynching inactives but then goes ahead and abstains. Then he goes on again about how we should just line up inactives to lynch and doesn't change his vote. Then he vanishes. This is fishy for two reasons. First the obvious contradiction, and second, the effort to try and direct suspicion away from him. He keeps pushing the idea to lynch random inactive people while the town debates over a few suspects and really does nothing but push the town in the wrong direction: not analysing the game but killing off quiet people. Then he talks about playoffs and keeps endorcing random picking ideas. That is wayy too anti-town to be a blue. And if he's green he doesn't care about the game much.

-------------------------------------------------------
this is all I have now and hope I at least contributed to the game before I die

sorry about trying to have fun guys :/

j/k

~peace



+ Show Spoiler [DTA's "Death Post"] +

On July 22 2010 12:14 DarthThienAn wrote:
chaoser, I don't mind dying. Prefer not to, but it's all good if I do.

People to look out for when I flip green: Pyrr. Subversion (still got it out for him). youngminii. tree.hugger who fed me the connection between Sub and youngminii. And if those two are guilty then check out Pandain and citi.zen too.

People who haven't been posting that I remember:
d3
zeks
Jayme
Laxer
Amber (maybe?)

I forget who else and can't be bothered to check right now.




Most useful post during the entire night. + <3s. Saved me from backtracking again. I still say night posting is kind of dumb.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 23 2010 00:29 GMT
#1437
I mean it ruins the whole mafia game in a way. In old-school mafia in real life the people would like put their heads down while the night roles did stuff and no one would talk. It's dumb because it ruins the game's vibe I guess.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 00:29 GMT
#1755
Whoa intense.. wasn't the night supposed to end later? O.o I thought nights were 24 hours.

Anyhow, let us assume that BC is town-aligned.
If he were a blue role such as medic he may just be claiming to be hit to avoid having the mafia go for him during the night and instead go for another player to increase the chances of them hitting a blue role. This however is quite risky because BC runs the chances of being lynched. Although he may be a blue role that was actually saved in the night.(I'll come back to this in a second) In any case the prior can be ruled out as it's very unlikely.

If he were a veteran this is a town-favouring claim as it doesn't suggest that he is veteran but it clears him to the extent that claiming veteran does without the negative effects of helping the mafia find the blues.

If he were a normal villager, this is pretty self-explanatory as he's just telling the truth. If he were a saved blue/green, by announcing that he was saved he could come in contact with the doctor that saved him. In order for this to happen though, the vigilante would have to come out and announce who he shot. We could then build a circle of trust in the village making it much easier to lynch people as we would have a confirmed villager, a doctor claim or two (if the second is a mafia then we have a lynchee if the other doctor dies) and a confirmed vigilante as the mafia would need 3 KP for this scenario to be pulled off. Of course the doctor claim(s) would only come after the vigilante claim. The results are obvious if there is a cc, double lynch. If there is no cc, then we are cleared. The real vigilante should not be afraid to cc if a fake one claims either as if he does, he gets to use his life for one guaranteed mafia's life which is superior to his shooting skill as he might hit a villager and he essentially gets another shot after using his first one on BC. Once that is cleared up we would have a cleared villager and we could have claims going to him.

If BC was mafia however:
Vig would claim. If we get a cc, DL both of them and as mentioned before, the Vig would be making great use of his life but BC would be neither confirmed or unconfirmed. You would expect that the real vig would be the one saying that he didn't shoot and the fake would say that he did but it may work in the reverse as the mafia might want to take out the vig if they feel he is a dangerous player. In any case, the town definitely benefits from a vig claim.

So read over this, give thoughts and if they are positive, vig claim please.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 00:31 GMT
#1756
Was just putting out those scenarios to encourage the other vig if Tricode is fake to cc Tricode. We also need time to give everyone a chance. Everyone roleclaiming at this point in the game is a bad idea I believe. It's much too early I think.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 18:47 GMT
#1918
On July 25 2010 03:37 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 03:34 SiNiquity wrote:
Well with 2 / 2 KP roles have claimed (Tricode Vigilante and Citi.zen Mad Hatter), and with no counter claims up to this point, it seems likely that they're both innocent. The only scenario I can imagine where even one of these players isn't innocent is if:

1. Mafia knew the identify of the other KP role (else this player could blow the whistle at any time).
2. Knew that the other KP role would be inactive today (maybe they posted something to this effect).

As far as I can tell, the only way 1. could be accomplished is if they had already infiltrated a DT circle. This then requires

3. Knew that the DT would be inactive today (as the DT would also know 1.)

I searched and it seems Misder is the only one that hasn't posted since the Tricode / Citi.zen claiming party and has hinted he would probably be inactive this go-around. I think everyone else has at least posted, though a few only dropped in some one liners just saying they were either active or trying to catch up and didn't reference Tricode / Citi.zen directly, so it could be they missed it.

Am I missing anything, or barring this outlandish scenario are Tricode and Citi.zen clean?


Yeah, pretty sure. I had been thinking about this for a while now(past 20 minutes) and I was thinking up a couple of ideas. Would it be good for everyone just to pm roleclaim to either Tricode/Citizen.

I mean, they're both clean. This could really really help us. And in the chance that a mafia will counter claim to be a kp town, than we have 3 suspects to deal with.

DONT ROLECLAIM YET, NEED FEEBACK



Sorry I'm back, I slept in today. This has caught my eye though because I have no choice but to counter claim Citi.zen here as if I claim later, I will become less and less believable which is not really good to the town assuming that one of us is the mafia which is most likely. Again, sorry for not being on early enough to respond to his claim. It should be fine as long as the DTs have not yet claimed to Citi.zen.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 18:52 GMT
#1920
So far I've been trying to slip under the radar so I don't get lynched early on or killed at night. I've actually only placed one bomb thus far as I was a little hesitant to kill place two people at risk even if I suspect them. My only one at the moment is on chaoser but that was placed yesterday after seeing that he didn't get lynched. I decided to abstain from placing a second bomb because of the first vote placed on me by Bumat... I felt threatened. :/

## Vote Citizen for now
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 20:24 GMT
#1943
Look..I've been busy for the past few days anyways. Do you want me to go take a picture of everything that I've been doing in the backyard in the pouring rain? Just one yes is all I need. This is my first time ever playing a forum mafia game and I'm not used to this way of posting extremely long posts and having every single word scrutinized. The few times I've played the game people would say their reports, and chat in a chatbox. Not to mention this is filled with much more text. I've never even encountered the Mad Hatter role. If you look at the game EpicMafia, although they have like 50 roles, they don't have a single one that I know of that resembles the one in this game. I figured that it was a town-favoured role that was only supposed to be used later in the game when you had a higher chance of hitting the mafia with your bombs. Hence why I only placed one on the person I was most suspicious of at the time. What we could be doing here is giving citi.zen all the info he needs if he is mafia to win the game for that side. DT claims especially.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 20:48 GMT
#1950
On July 24 2010 13:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:

southrawrea
+ Show Spoiler +


On July 17 2010 10:48 SouthRawrea wrote:
We should like.. have a village bonfire where we eat marshmallows and tell spookie stories in the afternoon.



On July 17 2010 22:57 SouthRawrea wrote:
####Vote Abstain



On July 19 2010 09:59 SouthRawrea wrote:
My take on this is we should take it easy Day 1 and just individually take note of inactives/suspicious individuals until we get our power roles in action tonight. Sure we may end up lynching one of the Reds and it does indeed help to lynch scummy players in order to lessen the number suspects in a future lynch but Random Lynching on Day 1 also allows Reds to gain a foothold in swaying the opinions of players in a future 50/50 situation (ex: Player X is active since Day 1 and seems to be pro-town but is in actuality a mafia. Both him and a Player Y, a cop, counter-claim each other with conflicting reports several days later and the town is given a 50/50 shot at lynching the right person but the other cop hasn't been speaking as much in fear of revealing the fact that he is a cop to the mafia through unintentional, implicit clues. The rest of the village trusts Player X because he seems to be more Pro-Town than Player Y.) and we risk the possibility of lynching one of our power roles early on. Just my 2 cents on why I voted to abstain from lynching.



On July 20 2010 08:04 SouthRawrea wrote:
Talking at night is stupid D:. It takes away from what the game is supposed to be.



On July 21 2010 11:19 SouthRawrea wrote:
Um this is getting a bit too heated in my opinion but this may all just be coming from the fact that chaoser is furiously trying to get the town's suspicion placed on Subversion or he's reading wayyy too much into the words typed out by Subversion. This is his first game and I can emphasize with him because you don't quite think out every thing you type especially in your first game. If I try to help my team (because I've played a couple of forum games before) I generally type furiously without reading over what I've typed and trying to think how that would read to another player. Also, I'm pretty sure Subversion hasn't mentioned you. I do think you're trying too hard to tunnel him (not sure if that term is used here). However, it's not like you're voting him or anything which makes me inclined to think that you're just trying to defend yourself and help the village in general. I don't see why you'd go for Subversion instead of an inactive such as me.

##Vote Chaoser

I would abstain but we can afford a mislynch now and we have a bit of information to work with especially because the detectives have their reports and we have a claim. This generally works in our favour as there hasn't been a lucky kill for the mafia and there is alot more text to read upon for scumtells. Also we get more info now. (Not quite sure how this works in my head but I imagine a detective claim from someone getting lynched day 2 is much more convincing than one on day 1 especially because they have a report now)



On July 22 2010 08:40 SouthRawrea wrote:
Maybe there's a fool in the game with the simple objective of trying to get lynched? Also, getting a fool/mafia vibe from DTA that can happen in the event that both are present in a game. Gonna assume there isn't one unless BM added one in secretly and consider DTA for lynching as well. I'll actually bandwagon if a lynch occurs later or perhaps start it on another day just because as I'm continuing to read, some of my suspicions are beginning to coincide with some of those who suspect him. Overall though, not a huge suspect on my list.



On July 22 2010 12:00 SouthRawrea wrote:
Gonna leave my vote the way it is. Gonna sleep for tonight gotta get up early tomorrow.



On July 23 2010 09:29 SouthRawrea wrote:
I mean it ruins the whole mafia game in a way. In old-school mafia in real life the people would like put their heads down while the night roles did stuff and no one would talk. It's dumb because it ruins the game's vibe I guess.




Welcome to southrawrea, the classic case of a mafia member “being active”. I’m not sure how he has been missed this long as well, almost all his posts are useless, rehashing old information someone has said, or obvious filler posts to distract people from how inactive he has been. Considering he hasn’t been very active overall, and coupled with the style of posts he is making, I am sure he is mafia, and IMO someone we should consider lynching. If anyone doubts it, go read all his posts for yourself, you will see what I mean. If you refuse to go read his posts, take the sample I have given and make your decision off that.





Not sure how this is completely representative of all my posts. You're missing a few actually. The type of mafia I'm used to is more fast paced and over a short period of time. I'm not entirely good with the analytical thing where you link the posts of people from 50 pages back and stuff which is what the "better" players seem to be doing.

Also at citi.zen if you really are the Mad Hatter, why not announce who you placed your bombs on? If they're really innocent, no problemo and if they're mafia they'll think twice about shooting you and we have someone to lead.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 20:52 GMT
#1953
Also I impose a question upon all of you. Would you guys be alright if this vote does end up killing me and chaoser to allow me one extra night to place another bomb, essentially allowing us a triple lynch as my action does come before the mafia? This is if voting continues along the same pattern. A couple bandwagoners here and there at the moment but there could be more. Of course if we did this we would need to come up with a couple more lynch candidates.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:00 GMT
#1957
On July 25 2010 05:35 SiNiquity wrote:
I would very much like to see your backyard

Ok just five minutes, need enough battery power on my camera and I'll PM you with it.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:02 GMT
#1960
On July 25 2010 06:01 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:00 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 05:35 SiNiquity wrote:
I would very much like to see your backyard

Ok just five minutes, need enough battery power on my camera and I'll PM you with it.


can i see it too?


I'll put it in the thread then.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:03 GMT
#1961
Might get one of the left over material in the front too. We're basically building a retaining wall. I've been kinda busy from 2 hour a day volunteer work but that's not a big deal really.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:04 GMT
#1962
Wait.. hallelujah.. found my phone usb cord.. gonna send my phone pic first just to confirm something is going on and then I'll get good pics on my camera.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:15 GMT
#1963
Okay phone failed.. camera battery keeps dying. Gonna take my time because it seems I'm taking the stupid charger off too soon. I'll get a pic up in 15 mins tops.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:26 GMT
#1968
Here we go.. Here we gooo!
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SouthRawrea
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July 24 2010 21:27 GMT
#1969
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


What makes even less sense is how would the supposed mafia be against a wall? They've got 1 blue role and have lost no one so far. Not to mention we don't have any real clues as to who they are except suspicious behaviour. We've missed our lynches consistantly.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:33 GMT
#1971
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Oh and took the pictures as well I suppose.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:42 GMT
#1974
So you're thoroughly convinced that I'm mafia for some reason it seems. Why does it seem like you're not even considering Citi.zen as a mafia suspect?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:44 GMT
#1975
Oh and thank you but it's a work in progress.. we had to rip out part of the deck. put new sod down.. tear out the old shack there for tools.. which is why there's still a concrete slab. After the interlock is done we get rid of the concrete. Moved in almost 2 years ago.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:46 GMT
#1978
Um pictures died for some reason.. they shouldn't have. I used Photobucket. Direct links for anyone that wants to see them
http://s274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/Vismaster1994/?action=view&current=DSC02097.jpg
http://s274.photobucket.com/albums/jj246/Vismaster1994/?action=view&current=DSC02096.jpg
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:47 GMT
#1979
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 21:53 GMT
#1986
On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.



I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:06 GMT
#1992
On July 25 2010 06:57 Tricode wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:53 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:50 Tricode wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:47 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:46 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:31 zeks wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:25 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
On July 25 2010 06:17 zeks wrote:
#vote SouthRawrea

Mafia is essentially against a wall so they pushed their most inactive member out to die



How does that make any sense

mafia is against a wall so they sacrificed someone who was going to be lynched anyway? if southrawrea is red it doesn't buy the mafia any extra time if he gets lynched


1. His claim is an effort to save himself and get our main man citi.zen killed in the process
2. SouthRawrea is obviously expendable
3. Town organization is becoming a LEGIT THREAT - we've forced the action on them so now they came up with an aggressive reply with South claiming.

Scum probably wrote his posts up for him rofl



Okay, I can see this line of thinking now.

However, so far 1, seems to be backfiring since South has already garnered several votes. And i doubt he had his posts written for him; they're not persuasive at all.

Put yourself in the mafias shoes. If citizen is really the hatter, how would you disrupt the plan? The strategies i detailed in my longish post on page 96 (i think its 96) involving false DT claims would be much more powerful and harder to combat than sending out SouthRawrea to meekly claim that he's the real Mad Hatter. Like I said before, never assume the mafia are idiots.

The other possibility no one has mentioned is that BC and Tricode are both red and we have 2 Hatters (possible yes... realistic probably not)


Oh wow.. never even considered 2 hatters... uh...


There is only 2kp roles. So it's unlikely that there are 2 mad hatters when I'm the vig.

Also instead of defending yourself, you seem to like to show your hard work that is irrelevant to this game and does not prove anything other then your busy.



I just defended myself against zeks didn't I D


You just asked Zek "why don't you suspect citizen", that isn't really a reason why not to look at you still. You were just trying to bounce off your FoS to citizen instead of defending yourself and giving valid reasons in why we should trust you over citizen.


What I was implying was a mafia partnership going on and honestly if there really is only one Mad Hatter. It's either me or him. FOS is on both of us. I was merely FOSing Zeks as well. Now I could ask why doesn't Citizen give reasons to trust him but I'll humour you here. There are no real reasons why you should trust anybody as that is an unreasonable question. All you can do in mafia is show why the other person is guilty. It's like court without any evidence for the defense to use. I'm trustworthy because everything I've said so far is consistent though. I think it's best really to wait for citizen to come on to say something because so far he's been much too quiet. I know how that is though.. might be busy at the moment.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:08 GMT
#1993
Let's wait t'ill he gets on and let the accusations come on to me? I've deflected Zek's to a point where it seems possible that he's in cahoots with citizen. No one has really raised a case against me yet except for inactivity. which I've explained already.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:22 GMT
#1999
Just as extra confirmation that he is the Hatter. If he says something stupid that would make no sense like placing a bomb on someone that is most likely a blue carelessly then I get him for the scumslip obviously.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:25 GMT
#2001
On July 25 2010 07:18 lakrismamma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 04:46 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


Thanks for appearing after I went to sleep, its nice to know I get to wake up to stuff like this.
Now, if you read the bolded text you can easily see a mistake in your reasoning. In the case of multiple DT mouths talking to citizen, rather than him clear his legimacy, your having him instant 100% cleared and his dt clears the others....If he is red, you just handed him the entire dt list, good job. Best plan so far. IF he is legit, we have no way of proving this. Regardless, your plan requires 100% trust pretty well in him.

As for why I haven't analyzed misder? So what? I opted to snag people I saw obviously coasting/acting scummy. You know, rather than fingering me for who I didn't analyze, maybe you should spend time analyzing said person. Hell if you think you believe they are scum, maybe you should give a reason why other than "I think"

Trying to put suspicion on me for who I didn't analyze is like saying "You contributed, but because your scum list and mine don't overlap 100% you must be red" instead of contributing yourself.



¨
Citi.zen was cleared if no other claimed mad hatter. If he is clear then his DT should be clear if it is as he says? Now the situation is different.

Misder was more of an observation. Im not so sure you are mafia now. Since I get to choose between citi.zen and Southrawrea south is far more likely and that would prove you right,

Will you believe in citi.zen if South turns out red?


Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 05:24 SouthRawrea wrote:
Look..I've been busy for the past few days anyways. Do you want me to go take a picture of everything that I've been doing in the backyard in the pouring rain? Just one yes is all I need. This is my first time ever playing a forum mafia game and I'm not used to this way of posting extremely long posts and having every single word scrutinized. The few times I've played the game people would say their reports, and chat in a chatbox. Not to mention this is filled with much more text. I've never even encountered the Mad Hatter role. If you look at the game EpicMafia, although they have like 50 roles, they don't have a single one that I know of that resembles the one in this game. I figured that it was a town-favoured role that was only supposed to be used later in the game when you had a higher chance of hitting the mafia with your bombs. Hence why I only placed one on the person I was most suspicious of at the time. What we could be doing here is giving citi.zen all the info he needs if he is mafia to win the game for that side. DT claims especially.


Sure play the newbie card. What you really is trying to do here is make citi tell where he has his bombs right?


Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 05:48 SouthRawrea wrote:


Not sure how this is completely representative of all my posts. You're missing a few actually. The type of mafia I'm used to is more fast paced and over a short period of time. I'm not entirely good with the analytical thing where you link the posts of people from 50 pages back and stuff which is what the "better" players seem to be doing.

Also at citi.zen if you really are the Mad Hatter, why not announce who you placed your bombs on? If they're really innocent, no problemo and if they're mafia they'll think twice about shooting you and we have someone to lead.


WTF!! This is so mafia why should he tell where he placed his bombs. Only mafia has the need to know if the bombs are placed on them or not. You practicly told us you are mafia.

##unvote
##vote southrawrea


Also.. fine go show me where I last played a forum mafia game.. right nowhere. Now this is where WIFOM comes into play. If I were mafia, and not a noob as you claim, wouldn't I know that it would be scummy to ask for where the bombs are placed if he really was the Hatter? More substance less jumping to conclusions please.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:32 GMT
#2008
On July 25 2010 07:29 lakrismamma wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 03:52 SouthRawrea wrote:
So far I've been trying to slip under the radar so I don't get lynched early on or killed at night. I've actually only placed one bomb thus far as I was a little hesitant to kill place two people at risk even if I suspect them. My only one at the moment is on chaoser but that was placed yesterday after seeing that he didn't get lynched. I decided to abstain from placing a second bomb because of the first vote placed on me by Bumat... I felt threatened. :/

## Vote Citizen for now


Wow I didn't see this until now. Why would he vote for now when its either him or citi.zen that is mafia. Notice where all the signs are pointing people!


Why would I say "for now" if I were mafia? Neither makes sense. I just wanted to make it sound a bit dramatic. You know.. like... The supervillain is thwarted.. for now.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:38 GMT
#2013
On July 25 2010 07:29 youngminii wrote:
This is ridiculous, I can't believe this many people are actually voting for citi.zen. Let me say it one more time.

There is more information to be gained if SouthRawr is lynched than if citi.zen is lynched. Also, you are a mafia noob, not just a mafia, not just a noob.


That's not the only factor involved though. There is also likelihood based on who we're associating with. Don't we gain info on three total deaths if citi.zen is the mad hatter? There is much more potential info there then the 2 people we know will show up if I die. Also, if I were the mafia how do you gain info on Chaoser? Your supposed evidence that you gain is all circumstantial because of the nature of WIFOM. You sir are and idiot .
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:41 GMT
#2018
On July 25 2010 07:33 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 06:20 chaoser wrote:
You know, I was thinking. The worst case scenario that could happen is SouthRawrea is Bomber, me and him die. Citi.zen is suicide bomber, has blues to hit, kills a bunch. I'm still ready to die with southrawrea, just saying...


I would just like to quote this again for people who are like, if south flips MH, we can just kill citi.zen the next day. If he's suicide bomber, it doesn't matter


On July 25 2010 07:37 zeks wrote:
I will personally vote for citi.zen first as soon as the next day starts if SR flips anything other than red.



Way to post something after it has been proven to be an invalid option.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 22:50 GMT
#2034
On July 25 2010 07:44 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 07:38 SouthRawrea wrote:
On July 25 2010 07:29 youngminii wrote:
This is ridiculous, I can't believe this many people are actually voting for citi.zen. Let me say it one more time.

There is more information to be gained if SouthRawr is lynched than if citi.zen is lynched. Also, you are a mafia noob, not just a mafia, not just a noob.


That's not the only factor involved though. There is also likelihood based on who we're associating with. Don't we gain info on three total deaths if citi.zen is the mad hatter? There is much more potential info there then the 2 people we know will show up if I die. Also, if I were the mafia how do you gain info on Chaoser? Your supposed evidence that you gain is all circumstantial because of the nature of WIFOM. You sir are and idiot .

Mad hatter bomb deaths don't give any information. They give NOTHING. They are just needless deaths and bombs should be saved for the late game.

Also, do you know what WIFOM means? I gave solid evidence linking you and chaoser, there's nothing WIFOM or circumstantial about it.


I'm saying if I were mafia what if I were just chose someone random so that when I died and it showed I was mafia, people like you would jump on Chaoser's vote. Or if I were mafia and chose Chaoser but pretended it was someone random so that I could refute your argument like this. Or if I were mafia and chose someone random but pretended to choose Chaoser -> someone random so you would lynch them. You go around claiming people are noobs but it seems to me you're the real noob here.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 23:04 GMT
#2060
On July 25 2010 08:01 youngminii wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 08:00 chaoser wrote:
On July 25 2010 07:57 bumatlarge wrote:
I still find it extremely silly for citizen to be red as he wouldnt benefit much from just killing a KP role and he would die eventually.


It's not silly if he is Suicide Bomber and in the rush of his claim, blues claimed to him. Then when the real one comes forward, hopefully the real one gets lynched, bombs go off, lots of people die. Now he gets to laugh and blow himself up with a few blues.

Yeah let's all just go find the smallest, tiniest possibilities and argue from that point of view.


It's not small if you consider the fact that the mafia would most likely send their Suicide Bomber forward to claim other than some random because he can blow people up after he gets the votes to go his way which is simple with your mafia crew voting with you?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 23:08 GMT
#2069
On July 25 2010 08:06 zeks wrote:
Someone explain to me how citi.zen can take out multiple roles - maybe I'm missing something here

He doesn't need to be medic protected
He's been DT checked?


Allegedly DT checked ACCORDING TO HIM.. which means nothing lol. Nice.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 24 2010 23:10 GMT
#2072
brb heading to a relative's house.. I'll be posting there.. I'd love to refute your post young but can't atm.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 00:12 GMT
#2167
Back. Grandparents wanted me to eat even though I already did >.>
I really don't understand how Youngminii thinks all his arguments are perfect. You're saying things that are illogical. Why would the mafia want to save me if I'm the "noobie mafia" that you say that I am.
On July 25 2010 08:07 youngminii wrote:
I call upon every player in this game to vote for either citi.zen or South. One of them is confirmed mafia. There is no hiding under this "I think they're all innocent" nonsense. Pick one.

But more importantly, pick SouthRawrea.

There are four possible outcomes:
If we lynch citi.zen the Mafia: Then we've taken out one red. We have a town member to form a circle around (SouthRawrea), and this player is 100% new to forum mafia.

If we lynch citi.zen the Mad Hatter: Then ASSUMING citi.zen's already given the second DT party (his inactivity cough) AND if we rule out the possibility of TWO DT groups claiming to him, then we have a town circle with a DT. Two people needlessly die and if you all really think that citi.zen's scumhunting abilities are so good, then why don't you trust him on his SouthRawrea hunt?

If we lynch Southrawrea the Mafia: Then we gain a whole load of information with many implications (unfortunately no one listens to me anymore). We've got BC backed into a corner, we've got chaoser (imo) and a few more, AND we have a huge townie group with TWO DTs working together.

If we lynch Southrawrea the Mad Hatter: Then chaoser dies. Only one death compared to two if citi.zen's Mad Hatter. I do think he's mafia and maybe you would too (directed at tree.hugger) if you got off your high horse and read my analysis posts once in a while.

***

God I can't believe how fast you all just follow tree.hugger's bias 'situation report'.


This especially.
Even if I am 100% new, I can pick up pretty quick especially if I get this circle to help me out. Also, we get rid of one of the mafia's top members who could possibly have power over the DTs if he really got those claims.

If he's blue, he should at least tell us if one of his bomb targets at this time is me so that the vilage knows what voting him would do. We then have many scum to pick on as you have pointed out so well. (Chaoser for example) and we get me supposing that I am mafia.

If I'm mafia, I as well as a few others have already said why your line of reasoning was wrong. We do in fact gain more info from killing citizen as mafia rather than me.

If I'm town, we get Chaoser who you ALREADY believe is red and we still have our Mad Hatter to place bombs while being directed by a new town circle. As well, because I'm such a noob, mafia may be reluctant to kill me immediately tonight which gives us a chance to get order in the town.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 00:20 GMT
#2170
I don't have to LEAD completely. Once I have a few confirmed people in a town circle, I can check if what I'm doing is good or bad with them.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 00:31 GMT
#2175
So I never quite caught on to this but what was this entire Double lynch movement about?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 00:34 GMT
#2178
Nice last ditch attempt to sway people.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 00:35 GMT
#2180
Also, Pandain, you must post the contents of our PMs. They're of the utmost importance for tommorow if I die tonight.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 00:38 GMT
#2185
He could be trying to setup mafia to be credible in the future by claiming that they are these people.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 00:39 GMT
#2187
On July 25 2010 09:36 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 09:35 SouthRawrea wrote:
Also, Pandain, you must post the contents of our PMs. They're of the utmost importance for tommorow if I die tonight.


Oh yeah, turns out he's not just canadian but also canadian-korean.


Boom case and point. Now we wait.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 00:52 GMT
#2204
On July 25 2010 09:50 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 25 2010 09:47 youngminii wrote:
I'm actually kind of scared if he flips red because I'll most likely get lynched tomorrow. Why did I put myself in a situation like this lol


I'm starting to think there are no mafia and BM is just picking the kills at night


That would be an epic game lol.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 01:00 GMT
#2222
Day over now?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 01:06 GMT
#2238
Thank you for your cooperation, see you guys next day. Anyone in particular I should place a bomb on? I've already got a candidate in mind at this time but just for the future...
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 01:18 GMT
#2263
IT WASNT ME I SWEAR
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 01:23 GMT
#2284
I have a plan that will save us townies..
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 21:44 GMT
#2467
Hello, I would just like to inform you that all posts were written of my own volition and were written by me . I would like to begin by stating, damn this didn't work out the way I wanted it to. You see: I'm not actually Mad Hatter. I'll explain it all in the day. Not mafia either by the way.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 22:06 GMT
#2480
Kk don't wanna get killed so BloodyCobbler is actually the Mad Hatter claimee. He PMed me on day 2 (if I can count) telling me that he placed a bomb on me. He then explained that he PMed me because if I were mafia I wouldn't be able to kill him without getting killed. I trusted him because of this reasoning. I initially counter-claimed late when he msged me but yeah.. people started voting me even more so I tried to get Citi.zen lynched. This way I would know if Cobbler was telling the truth. Last night's green claim completely threw me off because Citi.zen was in my position except with a DT. I'm so fucked in the head right now .. sorry if I completely ruined the game. It must be the dynamics of a game so big or just the fact that I'm so damn stupid. Not sure if I screwed up in any other way while I was inactive.. :/
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 25 2010 22:08 GMT
#2481
Anyhow brb dinner.. eating out for a birthday. I'll reply soon enough though.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 01:53 GMT
#2543
On July 26 2010 07:17 Pandain wrote:
South, Post the PM's.

One sec.. there's no rules against PM posting right? I vaguely remember something BM said.
Also, I wouldn't be in this stupid problem if someone claimed green sooner >.>
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 01:59 GMT
#2546
So post PM or not?
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 02:05 GMT
#2548
Claim in the thread that you are the Mad Hatter (represent me against Citi.zen) I've placed a bomb on you and essentially if you're mafia and you're trying to kill me, you'll die from the bomb I placed on you.

We can use this as a mutual trust system. I'll leave you to your own posts but I'll help you from the sidelines.


Sorry copy/paste only seems to bring out blank spaces so I typed it out manually. Also my bad.. can't count days.. I think it might've been Day 3... I was kinda lost for the first few of IRL days.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 02:11 GMT
#2554
Okay, you're doing a great job, we've got Zeks in the bag too once Citi.zen flips red unless he's green or another role in which case the two of us are done for most likely. Of course since there is still a possibility that you're mafia, it might not be bad if you and I get lynched later.

In a seperate PM..
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 02:19 GMT
#2561
One second here. Vote BloodyCobbler and zeks.. get both Mad Hatters? Isn't that more logical at this point in time? I would also like to call Cobbler out on this.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 02:21 GMT
#2565
Well how the hell did I get caught up in all of this. Shit. I should've ignored the god damn PM or outted him earlier.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 02:28 GMT
#2578
On July 26 2010 11:27 flamewheel wrote:
Please edit that message out, Subversion. You are dead.


Burn
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 02:31 GMT
#2581
You're just gonna lynch me anyways. Screw that Zeks.. Well hopefully someone believes me because I've just dug my self a deep-ass grave.
##Vote Zeks
##Vote BloodyC0bbler

Because I have no clue what the hell is right anymore. This is stupid.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 02:32 GMT
#2584
On July 26 2010 11:31 Subversion wrote:
lol. can't wait for your little "red list" to be total crap.

no more posting to me plz, im dead.


No more posting in reply to people posting to you. You're dead.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 02:33 GMT
#2587
Didn't bold

##Vote Zeks
##Vote BloodyC0bbler


I can't believe I got played like this still. Shit.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 26 2010 02:39 GMT
#2590
On July 26 2010 11:34 zeks wrote:
waiting on your scum buddies to vote me


No scum buddies though so probably not gonna happen >.>
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
July 27 2010 02:23 GMT
#2780
## Vote for Double Lynch

Just as planned.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 02 2010 14:55 GMT
#3369
Woooo~ 3/10
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
August 05 2010 01:08 GMT
#3730
Woooo that was fun.
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