Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows Mafia - Page 7

On July 03 2010 04:32 Radfield wrote:



Also, I believe Roffles claimed he has a one time use ability, that once he uses it it's gone. At the time I assumed that meant Tree Stump.

On July 03 2010 04:17 Radfield wrote:
Lets think about this some more.

So you guys are claiming the twins obviously, and yet somehow the twins have AK powers? Seems moderately unlikely. Another option is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's.

-Neither of them have been checked
-They both claim they aren't allowed to nameclaim, but now have claimed Weasleys, and most importantly they've claimed after everyone else.
-They obviously checked Thegilaboy, but Lakris could've checked him for them and passed that info along before he died.
-They got Lakris lynched, which would be a bold move if they're DE's, but not an unheard of one.
-They both shot Amber[light]

Most importantly, killing one of you, and having him flip blue means the other is legit. That basically means that either Thegilaboy/Jspazz are mafia, or Me/Korynne(roffles) are mafia. Obviously at that point I would know that Thegilaboy/jspazz are mafia, but what I know is irrelevant. However, everything is easily be cleared up with Jeejee's investigation. He checks Jspazz, who either turns up red(lynch him), or green(lynch me).

I think the most likely scenario right now is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's. I honestly can't see how we not lynch one of them at this point. Obviously if we do lynch it's gonna be Opz, since Jeejee claimed detective, and Opz is possibly claiming TreeStump(?), which means he won't get lynched anyways. If you are the Treestump Opz, you should claim, as I'm pretty sure we win then.

I'm in no hurray to lynch at this point though, we've got a lot of time to talk this out, so consider this an IN THREAD vote for Opz.

Most importantly, killing one of you, and having him flip blue means the other is legit. That basically means that either Thegilaboy/Jspazz are mafia, or Me/Korynne(roffles) are mafia. Obviously at that point I would know that Thegilaboy/jspazz are mafia, but what I know is irrelevant. However, everything is easily be cleared up with Jeejee's investigation. He checks Jspazz, who either turns up red(lynch him), or green(lynch me).

I think the most likely scenario right now is that both Jeejee and Opz are DE's. I honestly can't see how we not lynch one of them at this point. Obviously if we do lynch it's gonna be Opz, since Jeejee claimed detective, and Opz is possibly claiming TreeStump(?), which means he won't get lynched anyways. If you are the Treestump Opz, you should claim, as I'm pretty sure we win then.

-Neither of them have been checked

-They both claim they aren't allowed to nameclaim, but now have claimed Weasleys, and most importantly they've claimed after everyone else.

-They obviously checked Thegilaboy, but Lakris could've checked him for them and passed that info along before he died.

-They got Lakris lynched, which would be a bold move if they're DE's, but not an unheard of one.

-They both shot Amber[light]

On July 03 2010 05:48 YellowInk wrote:
They did this because they're playing a numbers game. I was highly unlikely to cover Jayme for various reasons. Had Jugan or Jayme spoken up before the lynch, things could have gone much differently.

On July 03 2010 06:39 YellowInk wrote:
Here's what we know:
(1) Short of some some obscenely game bending magic (eg the real Harry Potter was not permitted to role claim for any reason), Amber[Light] is Harry Potter by virtue of the claim.
(2) ~OpZ~ and JeeJee are either both death eater or both toan aligned. They outted nagini, a horcrux death eater, in the early game.
(3) Radfield can pardon and has access to investigatory powers.
(4) Korynne(Roffles) has claimed Aberforth for which Radfield vouched by cluecheck the following day.
(5) Thegilaboy(Subversion) has claimed to be Flitwick vouched for by JeeJee cluecheck.
(6) johnnyspazz was named Ginny by ~OpZ~, but in JeeJee's recent clue review did not include a check on johnnyspazz so I am unclear on this point
(7) I have been confirmed by all 3 investigators.

It is unclear whether (2) was intentional. If it was not, note that it was Radfield that called them out on it and brought it quickly to a head. This means there is a possibility that either ~OpZ~ or Radfield could be a death eater where the other's actions pressured them into communally slaying nagini.

If we assume there at least two death eaters left, this means either clue checks can be fooled or one among Radfield/~OpZ~ is death eater. If we assume clue checks can be fooled by precisely one among two death eaters, it means that someone who hasn't been clue checked is a death eater along with someone who may or may not have been clue checked.

People who have not been clue checked:
~OpZ~
JeeJee
johnnyspazz? (Please clarify this point)

Regardless, this puts us back to square one since it forces ~OpZ~/JeeJee to be death eater.

Therefore I suggest we lynch either ~OpZ~, JeeJee, or Radfield. So now I ask, is there any way any of you can provide evidence beyond any reasonable doubt that you are town aligned? ~OpZ~, what was the 'ultimate defense' you spoke of earlier?

If there are any flaws in the above logic or information, now is the time to poke holes.

On July 03 2010 11:42 YellowInk wrote:
Just so it doesn't get lost in the muck (I know they're both not here right now, but will be back soon), I'm waiting on a reply from JeeJee/~OpZ~ regarding if they had checked johnnyspazz. I wouldn't mind having a full list of who they checked by day organized all nice and neatly either.

On July 04 2010 03:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
Of the choices to lynch I think Johnnyspazz would be the best. I still think figuring out how TGB's checks are actually coming out would be great. Lynching Jspazz would confirm TGB's checks though regardless, unless he's naive then everything is just coming up townie I believe...

Lynching radfield seems counter-intuitive to how we've been playing. I don't feel like he's been playing anti-town, and he has never exercised a pardon. Does that mean he can't pull one out soon? Guess not, and if he is a DE then after tonight and/or once I'm gone pardoning will become really powerful. Do we want to keep pardons openly available late-game?

On July 04 2010 03:27 Thegilaboy wrote:
Spazz seems like a fine target. If he flips green/blue that will confirm that I am indeed a naive DT, meaning my other checks are worthless as well

I know Korynne is trying to catch up with the game, but would be nice if we heard from her soon since there hasn't been much from Roffles before he left. Last we got from him was the big argument with Jugan being a bad townie.

On July 04 2010 03:27 Thegilaboy wrote:
Spazz seems like a fine target. If he flips green/blue that will confirm that I am indeed a naive DT, meaning my other checks are worthless as well

I know Korynne is trying to catch up with the game, but would be nice if we heard from her soon since there hasn't been much from Roffles before he left. Last we got from him was the big argument with Jugan being a bad townie.

On July 04 2010 03:13 YellowInk wrote:
People who make arguments like this are especially suspect. I don't blame Radfield, assuming he's town, for calling you a death eater. This choice is mostly up to Amber, though.

On July 04 2010 04:16 Radfield wrote:



Unless of course the GF gets a townie result even on clue checks. So the key here is whether someone flips Voldemort or not. Us lynching a player and him flipping VM would not impicate anyone else.

But GF getting a townie result does with being a godfather, given that the whole point of a godfather is that you are immune to being checked.

This would mean that basically every check all game is fallible though.


@Yellowink: That plan sounds fine. I will double up with thegilaboy since he doesn't get clue checks, and investigate either Opz or Jeejee, doesn't really matter which one.

On July 04 2010 05:47 YellowInk wrote:
I always play calm and cool. Since most people have probably been able to figure this out about me by now, anytime you see me 'lash' at anyone (which happens regardless of my alignment), it is a calculated effort. That you can choose to defend yourself in this fashion undermines the very emotion of the original outburst. Unless I am to underestimate your skill, my previous statement stands.

On July 04 2010 05:31 johnnyspazz wrote:
if you guys want to really waste a lynch on me fine
but if i flip green, then you guys need to check amberlight because he's the only one that hasn't been checked. just because he claimed harry potter doesn't mean jack shit. so far this game is already crazy and theres a chance bm didn't include harry in the game.