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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
On May 20 2010 10:23 Trezeguet23 wrote: It's only 3 if the 3 leaders pick different people, though you are right, this is the most likely situation. Since Radfield is a sudo confirmed townsman, that makes him a likely YT later in the game. The wording of the battle site though may just refer to the fact that most of us are currently townies so the armies we have given would not have come from the 3 kingdoms.... I doubt the leaders will go for the obvious choices as they should probably go for the numbers and try not to overlap. And the neutral side still probably has the least chance of winning (I think). We should also keep in mind that there could be no YT leader at all, just the members. Should be clear in a night or two. | ||
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Korynne
Canada990 Posts
On May 20 2010 05:11 Caller wrote: i already made one -_- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=114591 Ish. But like, each person is allowed to execute someone only once. And as many kills can go through in a day as you want. =P So like if town knew who the last mafia was (because everyone else has used the kill ability) but they all used up their kill then they can't kill the last mafia and the mafia win. xD | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On May 20 2010 14:04 johnnyspazz wrote: Yeah, I really like that idea too. Although if we go the RNG route, then we should probably all make sure to "vote" on who should be killed (we sort of did that in a way, but I mean voting more directly), so that whoever gets the armies can't just make up some bs excuse for hitting an unideal target without throwing suspicion on him/herself.i like this idea a lot except how do we go about picking the next person to give armies to? we might as well use RNG to decide since i dont really a good way to decide who gets the next hit. That's probably obvious, but I just wanted to throw that out there to make sure it happens =/ | ||
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Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On May 20 2010 15:30 barth wrote: I doubt the leaders will go for the obvious choices as they should probably go for the numbers and try not to overlap. And the neutral side still probably has the least chance of winning (I think). We should also keep in mind that there could be no YT leader at all, just the members. Should be clear in a night or two. It's clear right now, unless Caller likes giving out random rules that have no meaning. If the YT try to recruit a faction leader they die. That means that there is at least a recruiter. And that recruiter is probably their leader, who if I remember correctly is Zhang Jiao. I'm not going to look it up to double-check. Also leaders totally want to overlap. They just want to be the second one overlapping, is all. | ||
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
On May 20 2010 16:35 Scamp wrote: It's clear right now, unless Caller likes giving out random rules that have no meaning. If the YT try to recruit a faction leader they die. That means that there is at least a recruiter. And that recruiter is probably their leader, who if I remember correctly is Zhang Jiao. I'm not going to look it up to double-check. There could be a private vote between yellow turbans (if they know each other in the first place) who to recruit. Considering the historical side however, yeah there probably is a leader. I wouldn`t be surprised if Caller decided to skew it a little to make the game more interesting though. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
1)3 recruiter (Zhang Jiao, Zhang Bao, Zhang Liang), 0 other member [3/0] 2)1 recruiter (Zhang Jiao), 0 other member [1/0] 3)1 recruiter (Zhang Jiao), 2 other members (Zhang Bao, Zhang Liang) [1/2] The reason behind it is not likely for 2/0 and 2/1 combination is that Zhang Bao and Zhang Liang are the younger brother of Zhang Jiao. Although Zhang Bao is the 2nd brother and Zhang Liang being the youngest, they both are equal in rank and significance to the Yellow Turban Revolution. This means that Caller can not favor either younger brothers by giving them different ranks. If Yellow Turban does start off with more than one person then it would be 3/0 or 1/2. If it starts off with the 3/0 then it would be too imbalance. So my conclusion is the 1/2 formation of 1 recruiter and 2 members. This is all based off of Caller knowing his ROTK facts... | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
i am against picking someone new. why would we give our armies to someone new when radfield is 1/1? doesn't make sense to me. it's like not passing the ball back to someone when you're shooting around with a basketball after they make a 3 pointer. you just don't do it. you all are more than welcome to not give him the lynch ability again, but like i said i'm going to be voting radfield unless something changes. am glad to see lunardestiny thinking, especially considering we were on the verge of lynching him. On May 20 2010 14:18 johnnyspazz wrote: ok ill let you know if i'm still neutral by the end of tonight cause i want to kill someone for fun what are you implying? is this a softclaim of a vig role? speak up johnny u can't lead us on and not deliver. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Wei has collapsed… for now. Callers statement On May 20 2010 11:56 Last Romantic wrote: Huh? There was no 'playing' to do, I just got offed Oo; I don't see what I was supposed to do differently edit: also, I thought I took two hits to kill? I'm quite confused. Last Romantic's death post. Perhaps Last Romantic is still in the game? Is that even possible? Could he be resurrected at some point? Perhaps another character in the game might take over the Blue team?? I know absolutely nothing about the Three Kingdoms lore so if there's some sort of precedent that might indicate Cao Cao having additional lives, or Wei getting a new leader fill me in. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On May 20 2010 10:49 Caller wrote: hey assholes, the sooner i get your night actions the sooner we can get this show on the road I thought this was a "strict" 24/48 hour cycle. Or is it more that the day length is fixed at 48hours, but night just ends whenever the actions all get in? | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
On May 20 2010 19:59 Radfield wrote: I'm guessing night is 24 hours long, but if everyone gets in their actions quickly, we can advance to day that much sooner since there's really no reason to prolong night if everyone has their actions in.I thought this was a "strict" 24/48 hour cycle. Or is it more that the day length is fixed at 48hours, but night just ends whenever the actions all get in? | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On May 20 2010 18:10 Bill Murray wrote: what are you implying? is this a softclaim of a vig role? speak up johnny u can't lead us on and not deliver. it was a joke | ||
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johnnyspazz
Taiwan1470 Posts
On May 20 2010 19:49 Radfield wrote: Also, is there a chance that Last Romantic isn't actually dead??? Just trying to put two and two together. Callers statement Last Romantic's death post. Perhaps Last Romantic is still in the game? Is that even possible? Could he be resurrected at some point? Perhaps another character in the game might take over the Blue team?? I know absolutely nothing about the Three Kingdoms lore so if there's some sort of precedent that might indicate Cao Cao having additional lives, or Wei getting a new leader fill me in. i asked the same question earlier in the thread and it seems like caller isn't going to clarify any time soon. i think the two hits thing is like being a veteran, there's no way someone would be given the ability to secretly survive a lynch | ||
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Trezeguet
United States2656 Posts
On May 20 2010 23:27 johnnyspazz wrote: i asked the same question earlier in the thread and it seems like caller isn't going to clarify any time soon. i think the two hits thing is like being a veteran, there's no way someone would be given the ability to secretly survive a lynch Maybe LR is confused about the part where you need a certain number of armies to kill a leader based on how many people are in the clan. IF this is true, he confirms our guess that the 3 faction leaders start without anyone under them since it would take 1 more army than himself to be killed. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
 But seeing as how the blue team collapsed and no one else died, I think we can be confident that the faction leaders only start with the leaders. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On May 20 2010 19:41 Radfield wrote: Even if I am a confirmed townie, I don't think it's any more likely that I'll be drafted into a team, because leaders will be doing there best to not overlap, so they'll be trying to avoid the obvious pick. Obviously there's a bit of WIFOM there though. ...How would you possibly be confirmed by killing Cao Cao? =/ | ||
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barth
Ireland1272 Posts
On May 20 2010 13:56 BrownBear wrote: I'm actually going to take this opportunity to suggest an idea. As long as we seem to be sticking with the "lets kill the faction leaders fast" theme here, in order to keep voting power in our hands, I humbly suggest this tactic: We do not let any person win the day vote more than once. My reasoning is this: If we start going back to the same person over and over to vote for us, then it would stand to reason that some faction leader would notice and decide to recruit that one person. Now, we're giving our armies to one person, but they aren't working for the neutrals anymore, they're working for a faction. If we keep picking different people to choose they daykill, then we have a much better chance of actually having the daykill be in neutral hands, and not in the hands of a faction. Also, can I get a rules clarification in the house? Say that 3 factions are killed off early, and there's only one faction (Green) left, but there are more neutrals than Greens. Does the game end at that point, as Green outnumbers the other (dead) factions, or do the neutrals count as a faction, so it turns into regular mafia, where the neutrals try to figure out the greens, and the greens recruit the neutrals? Also, if a non-YT faction leader is killed, what happens to his recruits? Do they die too, or do they revert to neutral? There is pretty much no chance that Radfield, considering he`s a neutral (btw I think I`m missing why everyone says Radfield is a 100% confirmed townie, killing LR was in everyone`s interest (except LR lol)) that he will be recruited since it`s highly unlikely there would be exactly one leader going for him. edit: So I forgot to conclude. Going for Radfield 2nd day is still the best choice probably, perhaps not so much later on, but now it is. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
Not to mention the possibility you could be a leader of one of the other THREE factions, you are in no way confirmed. Kinda suspicious that someone that has been playing as good as you would make such an obviously wrong statement... But what do I know... =( | ||
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