EPTThen again, as stated, he is a way more experienced player than me, but I still don't see the logic in the way he makes some of his accusations.
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
Then again, as stated, he is a way more experienced player than me, but I still don't see the logic in the way he makes some of his accusations. | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On April 21 2010 05:28 meeple wrote: 1) I changed votes because we needed a lynch 2) Yeah this doesn't mean anything 3) I do this frequently... look at previous games 1) this by itself isn't bad 2) oh yes it does 3) you did this twice when you were still alive the first time you did it you were medic and gave it blatantly away when you said the grace of a lucky medic the second time you did it you just said well that sucks and were townthis time you said "dang we lost one of our kp, etc." a bit different this time, eh? the other two games you played you were either dead or banned | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On April 21 2010 05:37 Falcynn wrote: Wait...so Caller's argument against Rage is that Rage is way too calm in his defending of himself and as a result must be mafia? I realize I'm a total noob and am probably being premature with this but I'm giving a FoS (am I using this term right? just looked it up on that mafiascum wiki) to Caller, because it seems like he's purposely trying to sow discord with these "rules" he's using to spot mafia. Then again, as stated, he is a way more experienced player than me, but I still don't see the logic in the way he makes some of his accusations. if rage would just explain his thought process, which he claims is really easy, then he would have been done a long time ago. but instead he refuses to do so and instead claims that i'm just making stuff up. if you actually read my analysis of his thought process and compare that with his attitude that seems like he knows more than he actually does, then you might be able to see where I'm coming from. also, didn't you play mafia a while ago? Why are you playing the noob argument? | ||
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Falcynn
United States3597 Posts
So yeah, not noob, just really bad at this game. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On April 21 2010 05:39 Caller wrote: 1) this by itself isn't bad 2) oh yes it does 3) you did this twice when you were still alive the first time you did it you were medic and gave it blatantly away when you said the second time you did it you just said and were town this time you said "dang we lost one of our kp, etc." a bit different this time, eh? the other two games you played you were either dead or banned It's not any different... and when I was a medic I didn't save that guy, so it wasn't like I was gloating about saving the guy. I was just congratulating the guy who did... which is ok isn't it? This time I say we lost a potential kp because we did... you're totally over-analyzing this | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On April 21 2010 05:50 meeple wrote: It's not any different... and when I was a medic I didn't save that guy, so it wasn't like I was gloating about saving the guy. I was just congratulating the guy who did... which is ok isn't it? This time I say we lost a potential kp because we did... you're totally over-analyzing this a) doesn't matter, you still gave yourself away. b) try and cover up your freudian slip more | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On April 21 2010 05:52 BloodyC0bbler wrote: You know, whenever caller makes a semi amount of sense that I think I might agree with him, I have to rethink that he can do such a thing. Bad caller, you should stick to your nonsensical ways so i can write you off everygame. sowwy On April 21 2010 05:56 Ace wrote: Hey guys, just to let you know Caller is Mafia. You should already be lining up to vote for him next day. I bet if I RC Rage tonight and he turns up innocent, Mafia would kill me and Caller would be like omg Rage killed Ace becuz he was unto him!!!!!one! sweet can i pay money to rolecheck this caller person to confirm he's mafia | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
On April 21 2010 04:00 Jugan wrote: Looks like I get to find out if I'm the miller tonight. How so? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
he thinks hes dying. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
Night ends in 30 hours give or take, right? | ||
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citi.zen
2509 Posts
On April 21 2010 06:08 IntoTheWow wrote: I don't think he's going to be targetted, but oh well. Night ends in 30 hours give or take, right? Nights last 24h, so the morning post will be up about 4 hours from now, 10:00 KST. | ||
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32277 Posts
Thanks citi.zen. | ||
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Jugan
United States1566 Posts
i'm getting modkilled tonight lol | ||
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KF91
Canada221 Posts
In a normal situation, a mafia (More the inexperienced mafia) that is being blamed would feel more nervous and therefore would post short, erratic posts trying to defend themselves. But what Rage has been doing is almost the complete opposite of that. His posts are composed well and I think that he defended himself correctly. As to his "Well if x acted like this in a previous mafia game, and y is now acting similar to x, he is mafia too!" statements, I believe that it has now come up twice in his posts. Once to defend himself (About the nai incident) and not to try to accuse Rage. Although I believe posting behaviours of individual people are important to consider (How BM points out how I must be scum because of my shortened post length, or even how BM isn't completely spamming every other minute in this game), I don't think entire situations where completely different people are involved should be used as precedent case. Also Caller, the whole 3rd/4th to bandwagon theory. I'm not going to argue about the fact that it happens 75% of the time, but currently it looks like that's all the basis you have to be suspicious of people (Most recently, of meeple). Although his commentary on the lynch should be analysed more throughly with previous posts and posts to come, I don't think your points 1 and 2 should really play into a basis of suspicion. Shouldn't posting behaviour be considered more important than the order of votes casted for a lynch? | ||
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Caller
Poland8075 Posts
On April 21 2010 06:29 KF91 wrote: As to what's been happening with Caller and Rage, I think Caller is either overreacting or he's mafia. Personally, I believe that a person who can defend themselves without freaking out seems more green than red. In a normal situation, a mafia (More the inexperienced mafia) that is being blamed would feel more nervous and therefore would post short, erratic posts trying to defend themselves. But what Rage has been doing is almost the complete opposite of that. His posts are composed well and I think that he defended himself correctly. As to his "Well if x acted like this in a previous mafia game, and y is now acting similar to x, he is mafia too!" statements, I believe that it has now come up twice in his posts. Once to defend himself (About the nai incident) and not to try to accuse Rage. Although I believe posting behaviours of individual people are important to consider (How BM points out how I must be scum because of my shortened post length, or even how BM isn't completely spamming every other minute in this game), I don't think entire situations where completely different people are involved should be used as precedent case. Also Caller, the whole 3rd/4th to bandwagon theory. I'm not going to argue about the fact that it happens 75% of the time, but currently it looks like that's all the basis you have to be suspicious of people (Most recently, of meeple). Although his commentary on the lynch should be analysed more throughly with previous posts and posts to come, I don't think your points 1 and 2 should really play into a basis of suspicion. Shouldn't posting behaviour be considered more important than the order of votes casted for a lynch? posts like this is why i'm running my one lynch mafia  | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
dude, dont get yourself modkilled. That leads to mafia game bans. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On April 21 2010 05:37 Falcynn wrote: Wait...so Caller's argument against Rage is that Rage is way too calm in his defending of himself and as a result must be mafia? I realize I'm a total noob and am probably being premature with this but I'm giving a FoS (am I using this term right? just looked it up on that mafiascum wiki) to Caller, because it seems like he's purposely trying to sow discord with these "rules" he's using to spot mafia. Then again, as stated, he is a way more experienced player than me, but I still don't see the logic in the way he makes some of his accusations. Main reason I don't think Callers mafia is because of the jpak vote. As far as the mafia were concerned, jpak was pro-town, possibly a blue. They had every reason to jump on the bandwagon and take him out. We were down one vote, Caller was around, and certainly could have put us to the limit. Not only did he not, but he was adamantly against the vote, and seemingly disappointed that Jugan switched last minute to put it through. Also, he's stirring shit up, and as far as im concerned, that's good at this point. So who did vote for jpak? Presumably the mafia would be more than happy to bandwagon on to jpak in an effort to lynch a townie. I would guess a fair percentage of the mafia are in this list. BloodyC0bbler Fishball Radfield (*gasp* voter number three!) KF91 CynanMachae d3_crescentia Osmoses [NyC]HoBbes Abenson RebirthOfLeGend meeple Zona incognito scamp madnessman Foolishness Infuldubulm Dartheinan Lardy Gooser Jugan The problem is that I feel there was also a good pro-town reason to vote out jpak. But at least this gives a list of more suspect people. Additional Bandwagonners: Dartheinian and Lardygooser both hopped on and off the RoL train Meeple, Infuldubulm, and scamp all jumped on and off the Rage wagon Also, special consideration has to go to Jadefist for voting Jpak after the deadline Very Inactive people: nbtnbt5, Jadefist, Fulgrim, love1another, motbob | ||
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