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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 20 2010 19:21 GMT
#881
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


What kind of cereal?

Also, it would help if you actually quotes what rage said in your argument because sometimes it's a little tedious to keep having to go back and figure out what he said (as opposed to you loosely summarizing it)
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
April 20 2010 19:22 GMT
#882
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


well since your post implies nothing else but mind reading capabilities, who's my #1 suspect according to you.. or wait.. who am I gonna kill tonight with my mafia powarz?

I'm sure that wall of text was as much of a 'game' as the one before it. I'm just not sure what this one is trying to achieve. I hope you're a detective pretending to be a dumb townie
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
April 20 2010 19:25 GMT
#883
Hi guys, sorry this is on short notice, but I probably will not be back in time for the deadline and the next day post. Please direct all night actions and changes to night actions to citi.zen (still send me a copy though for mah books!). Sorry again, and I'll see you guys soon.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 20 2010 19:33 GMT
#884
On April 21 2010 04:22 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


well since your post implies nothing else but mind reading capabilities, who's my #1 suspect according to you.. or wait.. who am I gonna kill tonight with my mafia powarz?

I'm sure that wall of text was as much of a 'game' as the one before it. I'm just not sure what this one is trying to achieve. I hope you're a detective pretending to be a dumb townie

oh no, this one isn't a game. this one is fully serious.

explain to me the flaws with the logic you used last time, or can you not explain them?
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 20 2010 19:34 GMT
#885
On April 21 2010 04:21 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


What kind of cereal?

Also, it would help if you actually quotes what rage said in your argument because sometimes it's a little tedious to keep having to go back and figure out what he said (as opposed to you loosely summarizing it)

the bot has everybody's posts, just take a look at that. I don't want to be accused by "you're cherry-picking, etc." I want people to see it for themselves.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 20 2010 19:35 GMT
#886
On April 21 2010 04:33 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:22 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


well since your post implies nothing else but mind reading capabilities, who's my #1 suspect according to you.. or wait.. who am I gonna kill tonight with my mafia powarz?

I'm sure that wall of text was as much of a 'game' as the one before it. I'm just not sure what this one is trying to achieve. I hope you're a detective pretending to be a dumb townie

oh no, this one isn't a game. this one is fully serious.

explain to me the flaws with the logic you used last time, or can you not explain them?


Caller would you mind displaying and analyzing some of rage's contradictions as proof to help yourself out?
Even a Savior couldn't fix all problems. www.twitch.tv/xJugan
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 20 2010 19:40 GMT
#887
by the way, meeple is also suspect for
a) voting 3rd
b) rapidly switching votes... to 3rd
c) commentating on the result of the lynch
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 20 2010 19:40 GMT
#888
On April 21 2010 04:35 Jugan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:33 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:22 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


well since your post implies nothing else but mind reading capabilities, who's my #1 suspect according to you.. or wait.. who am I gonna kill tonight with my mafia powarz?

I'm sure that wall of text was as much of a 'game' as the one before it. I'm just not sure what this one is trying to achieve. I hope you're a detective pretending to be a dumb townie

oh no, this one isn't a game. this one is fully serious.

explain to me the flaws with the logic you used last time, or can you not explain them?


Caller would you mind displaying and analyzing some of rage's contradictions as proof to help yourself out?

oh there's no contradictions. Just follow the logic, though. Give me another explanation for what he did.
Watch me fail at Paradox: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=397564
DarthThienAn
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2734 Posts
April 20 2010 19:42 GMT
#889
On April 21 2010 04:40 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:35 Jugan wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:33 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:22 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


well since your post implies nothing else but mind reading capabilities, who's my #1 suspect according to you.. or wait.. who am I gonna kill tonight with my mafia powarz?

I'm sure that wall of text was as much of a 'game' as the one before it. I'm just not sure what this one is trying to achieve. I hope you're a detective pretending to be a dumb townie

oh no, this one isn't a game. this one is fully serious.

explain to me the flaws with the logic you used last time, or can you not explain them?


Caller would you mind displaying and analyzing some of rage's contradictions as proof to help yourself out?

oh there's no contradictions. Just follow the logic, though. Give me another explanation for what he did.


The calm response? Maybe he's a calm guy =o.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 20 2010 19:44 GMT
#890
On April 21 2010 04:42 DarthThienAn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:40 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:35 Jugan wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:33 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:22 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


well since your post implies nothing else but mind reading capabilities, who's my #1 suspect according to you.. or wait.. who am I gonna kill tonight with my mafia powarz?

I'm sure that wall of text was as much of a 'game' as the one before it. I'm just not sure what this one is trying to achieve. I hope you're a detective pretending to be a dumb townie

oh no, this one isn't a game. this one is fully serious.

explain to me the flaws with the logic you used last time, or can you not explain them?


Caller would you mind displaying and analyzing some of rage's contradictions as proof to help yourself out?

oh there's no contradictions. Just follow the logic, though. Give me another explanation for what he did.


The calm response? Maybe he's a calm guy =o.

that's the problem, though. He's too calm as if he knows more than he's letting on.
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Jugan
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States1566 Posts
April 20 2010 19:45 GMT
#891
On April 21 2010 04:40 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:35 Jugan wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:33 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:22 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


well since your post implies nothing else but mind reading capabilities, who's my #1 suspect according to you.. or wait.. who am I gonna kill tonight with my mafia powarz?

I'm sure that wall of text was as much of a 'game' as the one before it. I'm just not sure what this one is trying to achieve. I hope you're a detective pretending to be a dumb townie

oh no, this one isn't a game. this one is fully serious.

explain to me the flaws with the logic you used last time, or can you not explain them?


Caller would you mind displaying and analyzing some of rage's contradictions as proof to help yourself out?

oh there's no contradictions. Just follow the logic, though. Give me another explanation for what he did.


well I meant why don't you show us what he did instead of loosely summing it up so we don't have to look for it and then on top of that might misinterpret it.
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RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
April 20 2010 19:47 GMT
#892
On April 21 2010 04:33 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:22 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


well since your post implies nothing else but mind reading capabilities, who's my #1 suspect according to you.. or wait.. who am I gonna kill tonight with my mafia powarz?

I'm sure that wall of text was as much of a 'game' as the one before it. I'm just not sure what this one is trying to achieve. I hope you're a detective pretending to be a dumb townie

oh no, this one isn't a game. this one is fully serious.

explain to me the flaws with the logic you used last time, or can you not explain them?


I can easily, like I could last time. However last time explaining how my ideas benefited town without accusing you netted me a more serious accusation. If I refute these ones, you might just use your same terrible logic to say THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECT MAFIA TO SAY again, no matter the content of my post.

I'll explain myself if others really think it's necessary, but I think a lot of people know already know how I would reply (not cause I'm mafia EL OH EL, just cause it's very easy to see how stupid that post was).

I guess you're just trying to prove my point about self levelling accusations.
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 20 2010 19:52 GMT
#893
On April 21 2010 04:47 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:33 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:22 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


well since your post implies nothing else but mind reading capabilities, who's my #1 suspect according to you.. or wait.. who am I gonna kill tonight with my mafia powarz?

I'm sure that wall of text was as much of a 'game' as the one before it. I'm just not sure what this one is trying to achieve. I hope you're a detective pretending to be a dumb townie

oh no, this one isn't a game. this one is fully serious.

explain to me the flaws with the logic you used last time, or can you not explain them?


I can easily, like I could last time. However last time explaining how my ideas benefited town without accusing you netted me a more serious accusation. If I refute these ones, you might just use your same terrible logic to say THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECT MAFIA TO SAY again, no matter the content of my post.

I'll explain myself if others really think it's necessary, but I think a lot of people know already know how I would reply (not cause I'm mafia EL OH EL, just cause it's very easy to see how stupid that post was).

I guess you're just trying to prove my point about self levelling accusations.

go for it
prove it easily please
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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 20 2010 20:04 GMT
#894
On April 21 2010 04:47 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:33 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:22 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:15 Caller wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:08 RaGe wrote:
On April 21 2010 03:01 Caller wrote:
Rage, congratulations, you just confirmed my suspicions of you as mafia.

Consider the facts:

every single piece of evidence I tossed at RaGe was flimsy and easily torn apart by simple, reasonable, logic. In fact look at my post history:

Let's say RaGe is pro-town. Thus he would consider his ideas to be pro-town as well. Thus, anybody that goes against his ideas would be considered anti-town and thus a lynch candidate, or they're a stupid townie. Despite reality and statistics, people generally consider me a good player, so they automatically remove me from the idea of "stupid townie" even though that is usually my role.
Thus the only apparent choice is that I'm anti-town and should therefore be lynched. This is especially because if RaGe truly was pro-town, and I not only go against him but accuse him with basically nonsense and nulltells, that this means that clearly I am mafia and he should advocate for my lynch.

But we already know that several people consider me to be pro-town despite my complete lack of intelligible contributions. Going after me may be risky, especially because it draws attention to yourself. Now what would a townie think?

a) who cares if I die, I have no role anyways, might as well go after Caller b/c he might be mafia godfather or smth!!!!oneoneone
or
b) this is too risky, if I die I might give too much information away, better to play it safe

Remember what I said about how town and mafia play? Most inexperienced mafia tend to play it safe when they can. For instance, notice how Ace (before he went trollcore) was willing to put (well, not himself) but a lot of effort and also draw attention to himself (by the way he still hasn't analyzed my posts, can I pay money for that?) when he accused me. I defended myself, but anyone can see that I instinctively concluded that because he disagreed with me, and I'm pro-town, and he's an intelligent player, that therefore he must be anti-town. Everybody does this when faced with an accusation that's flimsy. Everybody. Even the most experienced players tend to get pissed off when this is the case.

Yet what does RaGe do? He calmly dismantles my argument and then proceeds to pretend like I've done nothing wrong, aside from going against everything he thinks is pro-town (promoting unity or whatever horsehydro-evacuatedremainder he mentions of being pro-town. He himself has mentioned how he hasn't played in a while, so he's probably not pulling something sneaky here. And yet he proceeds to assume that I'm town, because he doesn't go after me at all and is like "you have a few reasonable points, etc." Why would anybody in their right mind do this? Look what even Jugen did when I accused him. He proceeded to burst a blood vessel in his criticism of me, even though it was pretty inarticulate and didn't really do anything to my credibility. Yet RaGe just kind of pretends it doesn't happen without any sort of retaliation. Unless you're the gosuest townie in the world, I think it's pretty easy to conclude what RaGe's true affiliation is.

Please, regardless of who dies tonight, check this man out.


lmao

are you serious

ofc im serious everytime i make a wall of text im cereal


well since your post implies nothing else but mind reading capabilities, who's my #1 suspect according to you.. or wait.. who am I gonna kill tonight with my mafia powarz?

I'm sure that wall of text was as much of a 'game' as the one before it. I'm just not sure what this one is trying to achieve. I hope you're a detective pretending to be a dumb townie

oh no, this one isn't a game. this one is fully serious.

explain to me the flaws with the logic you used last time, or can you not explain them?


I can easily, like I could last time. However last time explaining how my ideas benefited town without accusing you netted me a more serious accusation. If I refute these ones, you might just use your same terrible logic to say THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT I EXPECT MAFIA TO SAY again, no matter the content of my post.

I'll explain myself if others really think it's necessary, but I think a lot of people know already know how I would reply (not cause I'm mafia EL OH EL, just cause it's very easy to see how stupid that post was).

I guess you're just trying to prove my point about self levelling accusations.

I feel it's necessary for you to prove your innocence. So please do.
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
April 20 2010 20:04 GMT
#895
On April 21 2010 04:40 Caller wrote:
by the way, meeple is also suspect for
a) voting 3rd
b) rapidly switching votes... to 3rd
c) commentating on the result of the lynch


You're barking up a non-existent tree Caller... Statistics don't imply anything.

And yeah my suspicions of Rage are pretty much dissolved by now... Not to say he's completely scot-free but much less so than before.
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 20 2010 20:08 GMT
#896
lol did my joke really turn into this? i was just kidding about the color on his name
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Foolishness *
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3044 Posts
April 20 2010 20:10 GMT
#897
On April 21 2010 05:08 Bill Murray wrote:
lol did my joke really turn into this? i was just kidding about the color on his name

Well of course it did! It has absolutely nothing to do with Rage's suspicious attitude or his non committal posting or his hesitant responses to Caller's arguments!
geript: "Foolishness's cases are persuasive and reasonable but leave you feeling dirty afterwards. Kinda like a whore." ---- Manager of the TL Mafia forum, come play!
Bill Murray
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States9292 Posts
April 20 2010 20:12 GMT
#898
you're funny
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Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
April 20 2010 20:14 GMT
#899
On April 21 2010 05:04 meeple wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 04:40 Caller wrote:
by the way, meeple is also suspect for
a) voting 3rd
b) rapidly switching votes... to 3rd
c) commentating on the result of the lynch


You're barking up a non-existent tree Caller... Statistics don't imply anything.

And yeah my suspicions of Rage are pretty much dissolved by now... Not to say he's completely scot-free but much less so than before.


# WishyWashy voting (+10)
# Third person on a wagon is likely to be mafia (+15)


Day 2+ mafia errors

* Gloating (any form of "complaining" about how bad the previous night was, how the doctor/cop was killed, etc.) Similar to "congratulating the doctor".

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meeple
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Canada10211 Posts
April 20 2010 20:28 GMT
#900
On April 21 2010 05:14 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 21 2010 05:04 meeple wrote:
On April 21 2010 04:40 Caller wrote:
by the way, meeple is also suspect for
a) voting 3rd
b) rapidly switching votes... to 3rd
c) commentating on the result of the lynch


You're barking up a non-existent tree Caller... Statistics don't imply anything.

And yeah my suspicions of Rage are pretty much dissolved by now... Not to say he's completely scot-free but much less so than before.


Show nested quote +
# WishyWashy voting (+10)
# Third person on a wagon is likely to be mafia (+15)


Show nested quote +
Day 2+ mafia errors

* Gloating (any form of "complaining" about how bad the previous night was, how the doctor/cop was killed, etc.) Similar to "congratulating the doctor".



1) I changed votes because we needed a lynch
2) Yeah this doesn't mean anything
3) I do this frequently... look at previous games
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