TL Mafia XXII - Page 3

On April 18 2010 16:03 flamewheel91 wrote:

I used a sorting hat!

On April 18 2010 05:25 Zona wrote:
A message to assassins:
Although your goal in this game is to eliminate your fellow assassins, for all other aspects of the game, you should start off playing pro-town (at least until the town has an overwhelming advantage). It is in your own self-interest to do so. Why? It's in YOUR OWN SELF INTEREST to prolong the game as long as possible. And at least initially, it looks to me that mafia has the numbers advantage, if you as assassins are ignored.

Why? First of all, notice the odds. Likely 5-7 mislynches allowed for 8 successful lynches. It's not easy for the town to go >50% success in lynching, so if we don't do well here, it's likely mafia will win early, reducing the amount of time you have to reach your own personal goal. So helping the town with your votes helps you prolong the game and increase your OWN PERSONAL CHANCES OF WINNING.

Also - HOLD YOUR KILL unless you are sure your target is another assassin. Why? First, you only have 2 chances to screw up - so if you use your kill casually you could waste your killing abilities and be left impotent and relying on the chance that others will somehow kill your opponents for you. FURTHERMORE - EACH OF YOUR SCREWED UP KILLS HELPS EITHER THE TOWN OR MAFIA TOWARDS WINNING, and reduces the amount of time you have to win yourself. So don't deprive yourself of time by killing casually. Only in desperate times (when one of mafia or town are visibly dominating) will you have to employ your kill to try to balance the numbers so that the winning side won't immediately win and end the game for you as well.

since your bombs don't activate until you die, go ahead and place some bombs early - but try not to get killed early either! If you're going to die early you might as well hold back on your bombs, as they will then act as early-game vigilante hits.

On April 19 2010 09:10 KF91 wrote:
Wow, a lot to catch up on -.- But here we go:



Very true. But I really don't think that's the trend that is happening in this game. Mostly because people are generally lazy during Day 1; there's nothing to work with usually and posting could result in a lynch. I'm leaning more towards the inactivity = suspicion of mafia, but I guess that would put me in the spotlight as well since I haven't posted that much since the game started.



I'm sorry I'm talking about BM's plan again, but I just wanted to share a bit more of my thoughts...

Hmm... BM could be an assassin, but you never know with him because he's so... random XD (Not saying you're bad though BM! :D) I still see the flaws in BM's plan (Mostly because some people will not follow through with who they're supposed to kill), and I believe we should not follow through with it.

But if by some chance the majority does agree with this plan, we should only implement it for Day/Night 1. As the game progresses, I think it would be harder to role claim with that plan, mostly because, it would be very easy for any blue/red/assassin to frame others.

These questions are mostly directed at BM, but anyone could answer them if they want: How would medics/DTs/Mad Hatters do their job with your plan?



Hmm... Looking at the time stamp between Caller's post and your post, I'm assuming you've had time to read his post before making a reply.

Looking at what you said, combined with Caller's post, an inexperienced mafia would be posting to get out of inactivity so he does not get lynched and would look like an inexperienced townie trying not to get lynched. After Caller's post, an inexperienced mafia would not be willing to act along with what he said. But at the same time, you have posted and given not that much opinion yourself and agreed with other people for the most part (Which is what Caller described a mafia would do). It kinda looks like you're trying to avoid the spotlight of attention, but at the same time, you're messing up so people are noticing you even more.

So this is the list of people "inactives" who have posted after Caller's post:
- Fishball (Haven't expressed much thoughts, but according to him, he's only been up for about 2 hours)
- TheLardyGooser (Pushing for a new plan)
- tree.hugger (Talks about Abenson)
- Roffles (Just woke up from OSL tiebreakers)

Actually from what I can see, I think there's a higher chance that the mafia will be hiding in the inactives at this current time.

And to Jugan: What's all this hate towards me? :O You claim that I was bashing on you, but I wasn't; I was just responding/expressing my thoughts in response your post.

I have some suspicion against nAi at this point, but it's not concrete enough for me to vote him. I'll vote once a bit more comes it. Or if nothing suspicious happens, I guess we could just pick a random inactive and lynch him? :/

On April 19 2010 09:11 Roffles wrote:

Sounds logical and safe.

And tiebreakers. 7 hours FML.

On April 19 2010 09:02 nAi.PrOtOsS wrote:
Also with the amount of information we have currently which is absolutly nothing, the best thing we can do is to just pick the most inactive person and vote him off. If there are multiple inactive people then we should vote off the most experienced inactive people, because if they are mafia they are the least likely to make mistakes later on in the game.

On April 19 2010 09:29 Radfield wrote:



As far as I'm concerned this is a terrible way to go about this. Don't just say "Caller's scummy". Give us some reasons, lay down some facts. As far as I can tell, both Caller and Zona have seemed legit enough for me, at least for Day 1. Why are you so quick to vote for these players when they could be an asset in the future, and when it makes much more sense to vote out some of the least active players. Lets not do the mafia's job for them.

On April 19 2010 11:46 IntoTheWow wrote:
Right now it seems like anyone making a plan is getting lynched. We should definitely learn a lesson from this : p

As Radfield said, we should make a plan right now and set a basis not on who to vote, but how to. Based on what, or with what in mind.

On April 19 2010 14:56 DarthThienAn wrote:
1. there are way too many useless posts in this thread -.-. it's really annoying to read through 1-2 pages of Jugan arguing with the mods about his posting quality... (nothing against you, just one of the more recent examples). I has a life, I can't spend it ALL reading this thread.

2.


I'd like to highlight this... makes me think Inf and Nai are connected? Why else would he bother to defend Nai so specifically? To me, Nai is just another inactive, I probably would have worded my post as like "why are we killing inactives?" or "why are we killing one specific inactive? There are too many to decide from" etc. etc.

3. Also, I didn't mind Caller's first few posts from a few pages back... then again, I don't really know what those terms mean ^^. But at least he's contributing.

4. Ace seems to be an arrogant elitest jerk, but that doesn't really tell us anything about his allegiance =p.

5. I voted for myself in the other thread for 2 reasons: I don't know who to vote for, and I don't think we'll get a majority anyway. Plus, the MKs should take care of more inactives than we want in the first day =[ (iirc still like 4+ left??). If we want to lynch someone in addiction to the anticipated MKs, that will give us more info, but... tis a nother possible townsperson =[. Normally, I would say lynch someone random for sure, but the whole modkilling changes things. after all, i doubt the mafia members would be dumb (or uninterested) enough to get modkilled for inactivity.