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Ok, I'll analyze Scaramanga then.
On April 18 2010 18:47 Scaramanga wrote:
Been a tad busy sorry guys, my brothers been in the hospital for tonsillitus so im catching up now
Egh, could be bullshit, could not be bullshit. All I know is that he made another 100 posts to this day on TL after this one.
On April 18 2010 18:57 Scaramanga wrote:
Oh and lets lynch BC L O L
Useless
On April 18 2010 20:35 Scaramanga wrote:
Bill are you retarded? If someone is an assassin and they need to kill the other assassin why would they kill who you asked, they are more likely to just kill someone randomly or not at all, worst plan ever
Repeats the same objection a lot of people before him raised
Useless, but interesting. Might have been protecting himself against a BM lynch on Day 1, cause thats just all this post accomplishes.
On April 18 2010 20:57 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 20:42 Ace wrote:On April 18 2010 20:18 Osmoses wrote:
Ace, if newbies weren't allowed, there'd be no games, period. Your bitching doesn't help anyone get better. Actually I wasn't even talking about the newbies. But if you want to be included in that list it's fine by me. I thought you'd be number one on that list ace ^^
Worthless
On April 19 2010 22:06 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 09:00 Roffles wrote:
Yeah, just gonna chime in a little here. I disagree on lynching an inactive. I'd rather gamble and kill off someone suspicious than take a guess at an inactive. As someone earlier mentioned, if people are inactive, then as the game drags on, people aren't going to take their word at all. Why not just gamble now and take a shot at someone who seems suspicious now? Go big or go home. Games in the past that ive played all point to lynching big players that look suspicious pays off some of the time but most turn out town, then you're left with inactives which allows mafia to sit there, do fuck all and get away with it
The interesting thing about this post was that it happened after Radfield accused TheLardyGooser.
On April 19 2010 23:01 Scaramanga wrote:
Jesus fucking christ, reading through this is like pulling teeth, I'm voting to lynch Jugan as his non senseical crap looks exactly like what 0cz3z used to do to confuse the town when he was mafia and i suggest that everyone else dose the same
Edit: I would just like to let you all know that watching one piece >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reading this shit
This was the post right after that. Proposing a new lynch candidate after thelardygooser suspicion.
On April 20 2010 14:59 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2010 12:00 Jugan wrote:On April 20 2010 11:51 [NyC]HoBbes wrote:Jugan- I wasn't the one who filed a complaint against you. If if makes you feel like more of a man, however, I could start complaining to everyone about how emotionally damaged you've made me, and how I'm clearly a shell of my former self. Anything to make you feel better.  Nah man, when you insult someone, you have to be ready to accept an insult back. I'm sorry some people couldn't handle some "shady" insults, I just figured it was better some things other people are saying: "Okay basically you're going around sucking peoples dicks" or "Fuck all of you. You are all noobs." or " This game is shit. lets watch one piece" If me calling you a donkey truly hurt your feelings then I'm sorry for calling you a donkey. I just felt you were completely ignorant to events that transgressed and I sought to rectify it. I didn't call you a donkey to make my dick feel bigger, I called you a donkey because I felt you were acting like one. I doubt ANYONE complained about me, and if someone actually did, I apologize to them. However, they could have told me directly if they had a problem with me. I personally think that flamewheel is just trying to shape the game into something HE thinks is fun, when he is in fact ruining a lot of the fun aspects of it (especially being too lazy to start the game off with clues). It's just sad he's making me into the scapegoat, but that's okay, my posting has been a bit abrasive. I never said this game is shit i said that reading through the thread is like pulling teeth and less enjoyable than watching one piece majorly due to the fact that every 3rd post was you trolling and talking utter shit, let me find some examples Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 08:52 Jugan wrote:
I just wanna say i got the role that i usually am guys. i wanna see the clues already :O so bored Show nested quote +On April 18 2010 11:08 Jugan wrote:
i say we lynch the KF91 guy. he's annoying. Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 07:18 Jugan wrote:On April 19 2010 07:12 Ace wrote:
That last post just wreaks of scum. Ok Caller have it your way. I'll just chill for a bit, let your posts sit there for oh lets say ~2-3 hours and then come back and post a compilation analysis of them. The idea of you making a bet based on lynching someone else to prove something about another player when none of that is even in question right now just dug your grave.
I'll wait 3 hours. why not make it 4 or 5. or even 6 or 7. or maybe 3... 3 days! Wtf is this? Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 10:13 Jugan wrote:On April 19 2010 10:08 Osmoses wrote:
2. Ace and Caller are supposed to know what they're doing but they're shitting all over each other. I suspect at least one of them may be scum. I think it's just two big egos duking it out. The power of the E-PENIS! note: this post went up while I was crafting my previous one. Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 10:58 Jugan wrote:
except that one of them was in a response to a post that was made while I was crafting my original post.
Which I might add I NOTED in that post. GG. Offensive gging? What? Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 12:02 Jugan wrote:On April 19 2010 12:00 Incognito wrote:
Didn't expect to play a game right now, been busy over the past month, but was asked to sub in. Anyway, just started reading the thread. But I have thoughts from what I've seen so far. Expect a large post coming up within the next two hours. yay <3 incognito. I think the plan should be to lynch that KF91 guy. Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 12:09 Jugan wrote:On April 19 2010 12:06 IntoTheWow wrote:On April 19 2010 12:02 Jugan wrote:On April 19 2010 12:00 Incognito wrote:
Didn't expect to play a game right now, been busy over the past month, but was asked to sub in. Anyway, just started reading the thread. But I have thoughts from what I've seen so far. Expect a large post coming up within the next two hours. yay <3 incognito. I think the plan should be to lynch that KF91 guy. Reason? reason: I don't like him, and he hates goats. Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 12:36 Jugan wrote:On April 19 2010 12:21 IntoTheWow wrote:Hard to take you seriously  My vote is as series as it gets, mate. Show nested quote +On April 19 2010 13:27 Jugan wrote:On April 19 2010 12:55 IntoTheWow wrote:
Ok I went throught the list of players and searched this thread for posts by them. I no particular order, people who make no posts, or only one liners in it:
KF91 (barely posted, always 1 or 2 lines)
RebirthOfLegend
Jugan (all 1 liners)
Scaramanga (couple of 1 liners, pre-game)
RaGe (only sign up post)
[NyC]HoBbes (2 posts, with 1-3 lines)
Fulgrim (1 post, 2 lines)
JadeFist
krndandaman
nbtnbt5 (only 1 post asking how get info on day 1)
Incognito (just subbed in, said he would make a big post)
love1another (only 1 or 2 posts, and he already voted)
jpak (only 1 post: "see you on day 1" when it was already day 1)
motbob (only 2 posts, 1-2 lines)
Ok, so I think picking one of these guys is the best course. If they have any previous server experienced, or were active in other parts of the forums but missed this, anything that's making them be quiet, etc.Incorrect. Go read again, sir. Frankly, I'm disappointed in your analysis. Additionally, a lot of the people you say "posts 1 liners" in fact offer insight and analysis that you either failed to read or are blatantly ignoring it in order to try and bolster your "point". I think the best course of action would be to lynch YOU as you are trying to get people to support your idea through false information and/or faulty logic. ITW's analysis was actually very good but considering he was pointing you out just like i did you called it bullshit And the list goes on and on and on and on and fucking on AND YOU WONDER WHY I FIND IT SO HARD TO READ THIS THREAD. I've said my reasoning that mafia hide behind this crap and confuse the town, Ocz3z did it all the time. People have to deal with this rather than finding more reds so i think that you should be lynched to improve our chances of finding more reds
Further Jugan hatred. It's a good excuse to make posts that don't make you look inactive on the first day, but actually have no clues contained in them at all.
He never comments on analysis, he just calls people out on practical issues.
On April 20 2010 19:58 Scaramanga wrote:
Hello? is anybody home?
I'm starting to believe Scaramanga didn't make a single Mafia game related post in this thread.
On April 21 2010 17:46 Scaramanga wrote:
If we use the double lynch who are we going to use it on, theres no point in using it if we have one target and we just waste it on an inactive.
Theres been names thrown around the thread in the last few pages of who is scum, i'd like to see BC and those who are doing analysis to setup and suggest who to lynch or what two people should be lynched if the double lynch vote goes through
"I'd like other people to suggest who to lynch in case our double lynch goes through"
Most. Useless. Townie. Ever.
On April 21 2010 18:45 Scaramanga wrote:
Love it that im the only australia (so i think) so little people here
Anyway Korynne why did you do analysis on protoss when even you say that he's no threat to us even if he is mafia. I also wanna know why you voted for double lynch, reasoning and who we should hit, this is something pretty important and you've given no reasoning
Neither have you.
On April 21 2010 20:28 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2010 19:42 Korynne wrote:Well he just seemed fishy when I first started reading the thread.He seemed readable, whereas people like Ace really confuse me. >.< I was just doing analysis, didn't know what I would come up with as I went along, and I made my conclusion at the end. I didn't analyze anyone that I did not write about. Sure, if I knew ahead of time then I might not do an analysis on Protoss, but he seemed manageable when I was reading so I'm just trying my best to contribute. I definitely will be watching him, but I think if he's the last mafia left there really isn't much harm and we could take him out easily, whereas someone with more experience would be more scary. So given that I don't have much against protoss and he doesn't seem like a great player, my final conclusion is just to keep an eye on him and focus on bigger threats. Like I said, I'm new at this, so if someone else manages to find something real on protoss after I brought him to everyone's attention then I've managed to contribute my part. Do you know already who you wish to lynch tomorrow Scara? I personally don't. But I see kind of two lines of people in focus right now, Caller/Ace/etc. and BC/RoL/etc. So I think it'll be reasonably likely that we can find someone suspicious tied to both of those camps, and therefore a double lynch would speed things up a little in terms of what information we would have regarding those two camps. Why have you not contributed much Scara? It seems like all you've done is get in a fight with Jugan, and seem condescending overall and focus on how the quality of the posts suck. You keep asking questions, but where's your analysis of anything? Games in the past that ive played all point to lynching big players that look suspicious pays off some of the time but most turn out town, then you're left with inactives which allows mafia to sit there, do fuck all and get away with it So from this game I'm assuming Caller is a "big player," of course this could be an incorrect assumption since I have not gone through previous games to see what Caller is like, but he certainly gives off that impression. So scara in your first vote you said: ##vote caller
Where are you caller, if you post i'll change my vote but inactiveness leads to death So you voted for a big player AND an inactive...I don't get it. You then retract your vote because you didn't read carefully, and just throw out names randomly while stating you haven't finished reading yet... I NEED TO READ THE RULES LOOOOOOOOOOOL ## vote for BloodyC0bbler LOL sorry guys i'll change it after ive read everything im up to page 22 And then finally vote for Jugan, basically because he clutters up the thread rather than you think he is mafia. Now today you just bandwagon vote Caller, implying that you need no reasoning because motbob already said it. I've given more reason to vote Caller than you have. So Scara, could you please explain your reasoning, rather than asking other people to do so for you? There you go, thats all i was asking for, not just analysis but some suggestions aswell. See i have no idea who to vote to lynch, i might vote for Ace if caller turns out green but im not sure whats best for us in this situation hence why im calling for suggestions not just "oh check this out he might be scummy" like whats been happening. Yeah i havent really contributed that much because i dont really know what to do  . I can't do awesome analysis of clues (not relevent to this game but going off prior games) or behaviour and pin reds like many others can do. The way i see my self contributing to the thread is giving my two cents where nessessary which mostly is about keeping the town clear and heading in the right direction. I felt that the posts from jugan were majorly cluttering the thread and detracting efforts from finding actual reds, note i clarified and explained that its not the posting overall that i said "sucks" it was jugans and jugans posts only that "suck". And im trying to contribute now, as you can see in the pages leading up to this people are doing good analysis but none of those who are doing analysis are calling for lynches and very limited ammount of town are giving their thoughts on this, thats why im calling for most of the town to come out so we can head in the right direction that most of us agree with, i want to make sure that one of our most important assets, the double lynch is used properly. The reason that im not analysing or giving my thoughs on analysis is because im very very very bad, ask BC, ver, qatol hell 99% of people that have played mafia with me would say im one of the worst. I feel that any of my "analysis" if you want to call it that would just detract attention from good people like BC, Ace, caller, incog, ROL etc, hence me not posting analysis or my thoughts on it, ive been doing this after my first game of mafia. And in regards to my votes I thought it was pretty obvious when i voted that i wasnt done reading the thread, i voted for caller because where i was up to in the thead he hadn't posted once. After a few pages i wanted to change my vote, changed it to abstain but i didnt read the rules, so i changed it to a good friend of mine BC (for the lols ) as a filler till i was done reading the thread and could make a proper decision to who should be lynched, and i felt like that should have been jugan I voted caller because reading through the thread when someone claiming to be a DT calls out someone as being scum, you're going to catch at least one mafia. If Ace is a DT then we get caller as mafia, if not we know that Ace is mafia getting rid of caller. Thats why i said in the votes thread, what motbob said which refered to "Caller and then Ace if Caller flips green" So theres my train of thought in asking everyone for their reasoning, thoughts, analysis. Mine isnt going to do the town any good and at the moment with the main players clashing heads without sugesting something town can't move forward as well as we can
It's the "i'm new and suck too much" excuse
On April 22 2010 22:02 Scaramanga wrote:
Hi flamewheel, hows running the thread going?
MOST. USELESS. TOWNIE. EVER.
On April 24 2010 18:36 Scaramanga wrote:Show nested quote +On April 24 2010 18:07 Incognito wrote:Fishball: Its day 3, you're a troll, and you gotta come out now. Thanks. Oh also one interesting thing to note is that you comment saying the zbot archive is awesome. Why is this so? Either you just threw this out there to fake activity, or you're actually using it to do analysis. Take your pick. Bill Murray: At first he made me think he was just playing usual and just be ignored. But his posting has dramatically declined. Busy? Thinks he's in the clear? Not his spammy usual self anymore. But then again, its really hard to read him. If he's mafia, he may be receiving orders from a strong mafia player (BC). Lets see if his posting deteriorates even more after BC is offed. He's been acting inconsistently though. No. 1 RC suspect imo. Scaramanga: You've been useless enough, been called out enough times on it, and haven't responded. Moreover, you seem to be active elsewhere but not here. You've been around long enough to know what is expected. motbob: motbob is inconsistent. Besides his early useless posts, he posts this:
On April 21 2010 15:49 motbob wrote:
I don't want to get modkilled, so here I am, posting. I think town is pretty much on the right track so there is no need to delve into anyone's posts or anything yet.
But only two posts later, he says: On April 24 2010 10:46 motbob wrote:
....I don't think this game is winnable unless we hit on every lynch. 14 town and 7 mafia. Mafia have 3KP in a best case scenario. If mafia just skip likely medic targets and hit random town, and we miss a lynch, this game is basically over. What makes this worse is that (imo) we don't have any likely lynch targets. So town is in roleclaim mode IMO. What does everyone else think?
So the town is on the right track, but then only two posts later we're doomed? What happened? I'm sure the night kills didn't change your mind that much...your posting is inconsistent, and you just seem to be stirring the pot and trying to avoid discussion when possible. Then, you pop up and say we're doomed, likely because you want to out all the power roles. Given that I still think there's at least 2 medics in there, that would help you a lot if you were mafia, right? Trying to push the boat in the direction you want? Seems like it to me. Falcynn: I thought you could've been mafiassassin given that you were talking a lot about assassins in your early posts. But now that all the assassins are gone, I guess that clears a few things up. Other than that, advocates a randomlynch, posts more useless information, then responds to me. Then your posts really start to slide. Defending your terrible play, admitting to active lurking, and even more defense of your terrible play. I wish townies would just stop defending their terrible play. Either way, I don't think you're a townie, so whatever. In response to your post, I had an inkling AFJ was an assassin, and felt bored last night. Sadly, he didn't bother following through and choosing to kill you. If you tried to kill him to stop his hit from coming through, it wouldn't work, all night actions happen simultaneously. So no, I won't use that excuse, but then again, I don't really need to. d3: hmm the Caller-is-innocent vibes may have been coming from reading my list of innocents. Blindly following me? Or having a subconscious bias of Caller's innocence because of my statement? Other than that, he seems to be posting like normal from past games. I like my other suspects better. Although d3 hasn't been extremely helpful. Hmm...I seem to remember that he is usually more technical and planning-oriented. Didn't see too much of that in his current posts. Scamp: probably town. I like RoL(?)'s and meeple's latest analysis of him. yeah, he voted jpak, but I don't know how much weight that holds for me. His mention of TheLardyGooser doesn't seem a mafia oriented action. And even though he's been around for a while, I don't think he would be one to accuse his own mafia member off the bat. Although given the weird activities going around lately, I wouldn't be surprised if the mafia had a solid player around trying to coach the weaker ones. (Would make sense since BC has been so inactive all game). Anyway, paper due on monday morning, so I will probably be less active until then. Looks like not much is happening right now though. Im active elsewhere? care to elaborate? Again i'll say im reading and responding to best keep the town moving forward
egh
On April 24 2010 21:04 Scaramanga wrote:
A wild Zona appears!
egh
On April 26 2010 21:22 Scaramanga wrote:
I hope our vigis hit some good people
egh
On April 27 2010 14:49 Scaramanga wrote:
Oh god, not ace, we needed him so badly
egh
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TL;DR: Scaramanga is either the most useless townie ever, or another Mafia pretending to be inactive and "too bad to help the town". The only time he made an accusation was when TLG got accused, but it was just calling Jugan out on his terrible posting.
Conclusion? If he's not mafia I'd prefer not playing a Mafia game with him ever again, cause this shit should not be tolerated by town.
I actually believe the chances of him being Mafia are decently high, but I don't believe it would be a correct lynch, since his alliance would provide us with almost zero information.
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