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I dunno if there is much to post for the first day so ima just say it. ##Vote Flamewheel91## LETS GET THE DRAMA STARTED. | ||
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##Vote L## You are a pain in the ass to read, and I'd rather you be dead. | ||
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On March 31 2010 11:25 CynanMachae wrote: Lack of activity is indeed a bad thing, but so far there has been really little to talk about. The one right now that drew my attention the most would be RoL, spamming stuff and "starting drama" as he said. Also, as someone (Flamewheel?) pointed out, comparing people's behavior with past games is a good part of what we should do; is this game KF91's first on TL? I NEED INFORMATION TO WORK WITH, ITS WHY I POST. At this point I have nothing to say. There is no plan to establish, everything obvious has been said. No lynch is a dumbfuck move. Don't lynch RC blues because they aren't mafia. If someone RC blue and you are that role. Counterclaim immediately. Trading blue for red is beneficial to the town. ALRIGHT? | ||
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On April 01 2010 10:02 Foolishness wrote: It has nothing to do with that. The game changes when we got a small number of people with a small amount of blue roles. There's no point in being quiet right now. Compare this to a normal big mafia game, but pretend like 30-35 people are dead and there's only 9 people left with 2 mafia (and DT has no information obviously). In that scenario I'd sure hope everyone would be incredibly active otherwise mafia run away with it. As of right now I'm voting for RebirthOfLegend. Yes, flamewheel, you're going to get what you want. And please let's not make the mistake of me just trying to be on your good side by agreeing with your suspicion. While I do agree with your statements about him, I will build upon them. The main reason I'm voting for him is because in my mind his posting is concurrent with his mafia playstyle. Mafia XII (hosted by Plexa) was the first game I ever played with him. In that game, he was mafia, and posted a few times during the first day and then never said a word again. I survived a long time in that game and I never suspected him of being mafia because I forgot he was even playing. He was the stereotypical mafia who hid in the inactives and didn't say a word. In contrast, it is definitely obvious that whenever RoL has a role he is usually quite active. In Ver's game he was a medic and actively posting throughout. While he wasn't one of the most active players, he definitely posted more than he has this game. (Also consider that with less people in this game, we'd expect him to post more since there's no highly active player such as Showtime! or Ace constantly posting. Also, in the smurf game, he was a highly active poster, even though he was a green townie. When the town decided that the medics needed to roleclaim, he even claimed medic in the thread, which is a highly ballsy move. Obviously that game was also different because it was a smurf game, but the point is he's not acting in accordance with his normal blue/green play. Right now I also believe Cynan is suspicious since I do not think he has defended accusations against him well. He's worthy of a check, but I think he's the person we can hold responsible and make sure he's posting over the next day. ##Vote RebirthOfLegend## I would dare to say I am generally one of the most active posters. However at this point in the game I don't think there is anything to say. I would appreciate it if you didn't pretend to understand my playstyle. That game I just went with not being noticed. I was legit inactive for around two days then never posted again because I wasn't under suspicion. I have been mafia many times before. I generally am very active regardless. I have nothing to say at the moment. I could go ahead and vote Flamewheel to kill him, but I won't. I will let you see how bad your reading skills are if I actually die. At this point I think his votes were in before mine anyway. I have expected to be lynched today just because of how I have been posting, meaning not at all. To be honest, I haven't even read the threat yet. I plan on reading it after this lynch and picking out my suspects since doing anything productive on Day 1 is hard. | ||
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On April 01 2010 11:19 Foolishness wrote: The main difference in not voting Cynan is because Cynan can be held accountable, RoL cannot. Cynan has actually taken the time to defend himself and respond to posts (even if they're bad). RoL has hardly said a thing, and we can't hold him accountable. If we want to kill Cynan tomorrow, I'm sure he'll be around to talk about it, RoL isn't a sure thing. That being said, the same thing can be said about flamewheel. Given the inactivity of this town, we need to get the mafia out of hiding. Killing off our most active poster (maybe?) is a terrible idea, as if he flips green mafia is still going to sit in the shadows (granted if he's actually mafia we got a whole new set of information but is it really worth it?). If you are still suspicious of flamewheel, bring up arguments against him tomorrow. He's going to respond, cause if he doesn't he knows he will die. More chances he's going to mess something up. However this same thing doesn't work on inactive players, which is why we can't kill flamewheel yet. I won't remain inactive. I have been trying to play some starcraft and spend time with my gf, and that has made me a little busy lately. Plus I don't plan on obsessing on Day One when I personally see not much to work with. Although 9 pages before the first lynch is a lot. Tomorrow I have work 10-3:30 then I am going to be home chilling and reading mafia. | ||
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WIFOM is the notion of a potential psychological game. Read the google link on epic mafia. It explains it well. FoS is finger of suspicion. Its basically saying I think someone is suspicious without directly calling them out, but is usually used when referencing a second most likely mafia candidate. | ||
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On April 02 2010 08:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: Anyone know when the night post is due? | ||
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First, let's start it off like this. ##Vote Foolishness## I have just read the entire thread and I am ready to bring down rape. Foolishness, you have literally posted more bullshit then I have. I would like to admit I was wrong, I figured there was nothing to really analyze or do during the first Day, I was completely wrong and for that I am sorry flamewheel. Flamewheel's style was so PAINFULLY town I probably would have voted to kill myself to save him. The guy posted so much stuff that when he actually got shit to work with (meaning lynches and more behavior) that getting a tell on him would of been easier then finding an underage whore in vietnam. Anyway, enough of that shit. Here is why I am alive. Foolishness, you posted shit all game and showed up and voted me and tried to transfer ALL the blame onto Flamewheel. Through the entire first day you posted nothing except negative comments, but nothing that actually attacked someone hard. You were trying to draw attention away from yourself. Then when you finally had to vote you vote for me then take a non committing stance with some sort of bullshit cop out of "Well.... if hes green, fucking flamewheel's fault" Get out of my game with that shit yo. If anyone would like I can post by post pull up all his bullshit, but he has like 9 posts. Feel free to read them all it will take like 5 minutes. Next order of business. The second highest suspects I have are KF and Billy. Although for some reason I Can't fucking remember why. So I am going to have to reread my shit and remember why. I got lazy and wrote suspects in a word document and didn't bother writing why. Now I fucking forgot. Edit: Typo's T_T | ||
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On April 01 2010 10:02 Foolishness wrote: It has nothing to do with that. The game changes when we got a small number of people with a small amount of blue roles. There's no point in being quiet right now. Compare this to a normal big mafia game, but pretend like 30-35 people are dead and there's only 9 people left with 2 mafia (and DT has no information obviously). In that scenario I'd sure hope everyone would be incredibly active otherwise mafia run away with it. As of right now I'm voting for RebirthOfLegend. Yes, flamewheel, you're going to get what you want. And please let's not make the mistake of me just trying to be on your good side by agreeing with your suspicion. While I do agree with your statements about him, I will build upon them. The main reason I'm voting for him is because in my mind his posting is concurrent with his mafia playstyle. Mafia XII (hosted by Plexa) was the first game I ever played with him. In that game, he was mafia, and posted a few times during the first day and then never said a word again. I survived a long time in that game and I never suspected him of being mafia because I forgot he was even playing. He was the stereotypical mafia who hid in the inactives and didn't say a word. In contrast, it is definitely obvious that whenever RoL has a role he is usually quite active. In Ver's game he was a medic and actively posting throughout. While he wasn't one of the most active players, he definitely posted more than he has this game. (Also consider that with less people in this game, we'd expect him to post more since there's no highly active player such as Showtime! or Ace constantly posting. Also, in the smurf game, he was a highly active poster, even though he was a green townie. When the town decided that the medics needed to roleclaim, he even claimed medic in the thread, which is a highly ballsy move. Obviously that game was also different because it was a smurf game, but the point is he's not acting in accordance with his normal blue/green play. Right now I also believe Cynan is suspicious since I do not think he has defended accusations against him well. He's worthy of a check, but I think he's the person we can hold responsible and make sure he's posting over the next day. ##Vote RebirthOfLegend## http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=83951¤tpage=All There goes your "Rebirth of always inactive when he is mafia" point. You open up in this post copping out blame to flamewheel "ya your getting what you want" like you were hesitant to vote me. Then come out with some analysis that is wrong at best. | ||
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At this point I do NOT drop my case against foolishness, I will put it on hold until KF is dead. ##Vote KF## I think we are going the right way here, KF is using backwards logic when he voted for FlameWheel. He basically voted flamewheel because flamewheel would be the biggest threat later on, he was talking and contributing a lot and activity HURTS the mafia. Yes, Flamewheel was being exceptionally wordy, but that is good. It gives us the town more to work with and the ability to read whats shit when its there. Any fool can see how flamewheel's posts were beneficial to the town. After that KF continues to not really say anything of substance and just goes with it. Look at his suspect list. It lists me and Vivi as the prime two suspects and gives NO COMMENT on foolishness. Who is obviously my strongest candidate. I think from a mafia perspective, I am an easy candidate to persecute. I usually post a lot and am very active, this game I haven't really done as much and mafia can easily jump on that. I posted enough nocontent shit to where I can pass for a mafia. If you look at the first days lynch, It could of just as easily been me, and instead of making up a bunch of reasons to go and off flamewheel I refused to move my vote because I knew that would make me look like a suspect if flamewheel flipped green. I knew this and would of rather died then screw with how the town is thinking. I also think its unlikely that you would be able to get a good wagon going on any mafia member Day 1. They have more influence on what happens and who gets votes since we really have no direction as a town, so they can push and pull at us as they play. If we take mafia influence on day one into account they are more likely to jump on someones idea to lynch someone who IS NOT mafia and start a wagon from there. If we look at the Day 1 lynch vote. 3 votes for flamewheel91 (first): [stripe]rebirthoflegend[/stripe] kf91 l bill murray 3 votes for rebirthoflegend: cynanmachae flamewheel91 foolishness While that doesn't follow directly with what I said, we see the two biggest suspects influencing the vote. The only surprising part is that KF was sort of the first vote on flamewheel. For everything that happens we need to take the voting into account. I don't think mafia would team up to lynch someone on Day one, but I do think they are both on those lists somewhere and like I said my two big suspects are Foolishness and KF. | ||
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On topic though, not committing and being cautious is more of a mafia tell. A mafia wouldn't want to be associated with a bad lynch generally while most people wouldn't care. This leads to them not starting off bandwagons (generally) and joining them with some words of caution and trying to act like they are being cautious because they don't want to kill a town, but in reality they act cautious so that they do not draw the eye of sauron onto them. | ||
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T_T!! I Feel like I tried forcing him to be mafia and should of just pushed it. Although some of his behavior I did find a little suspicious I should of reread everything. ~_~ | ||
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On April 04 2010 22:36 CynanMachae wrote: So, you'd have believed him if he said "I'm green, don't lynch me"? i lol'd. | ||
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T_T I can't really think of anything. Shouldn't the day post be up? | ||
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On April 06 2010 04:34 Bill Murray wrote: i am suspicious of CM, but I don't know if the town should go with me, as I've been wrong twice. I have been wrong once, very upsetting  I was pretty sure.I should be rereading and posting. I just am lazy right now. | ||
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Town should always listen to me. GOD DAMN IT. First Ace, then Foolishness escape my ever watchful eye. | ||
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On April 08 2010 11:46 madnessman wrote: Haha I definitely lol'd at you being afk the entire game, and then coming out of nowhere and saying "im ready to bring it down to rape, ##vote foolishness##" Thanks Zona! lol you are lucky I couldn't get support then KF was bandwagoned and I was like w/e he was a decent suspect. I should of pushed my awesomeness harder. | ||
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On April 08 2010 11:51 L wrote: Impressively bad play. Well done chaps. This is all your fault. Next time put up a better fight vs mafia and don't die night one. Pussy. | ||
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I aint fuckin wit that shit again. | ||
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On April 09 2010 06:17 Ace wrote: being suspicious of 4 people pretty much means you had no idea what you were doing looooooool at least he decided in just enough time to vote the wrong person and mathematically lose the game. I think that means you realized who it was after. Just relax man, play another game and try to improve :D | ||
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