Micro-MAFIA (The Second) - Page 2

On April 04 2010 12:00 Vivi57 wrote:
if foolishness was mafia, he'd 100% leave me alive to die tomorrow. Think about it. Foolishness is my #1 suspect going into tomorrow

On April 07 2010 03:27 Vivi57 wrote:
lets stick with foolishness

I have foolishness/cynan, you have foolishness/madnessman

lets agree and lynch foolishness today

On April 07 2010 07:35 Vivi57 wrote:
The more I think about it, the more i think foolishness is innocent. In the last game where he was mafia, he was being extremely aggressive. This game, he's sitting there calmly trying to explain why he's innocent trying to diffuse problems instead of pointing fingers.

Combined with he fact that he's saying I'm innocent when I'm the most obvious and easiest target for the mafia to mislynch tonight, I'm going to withdraw my vote on foolishness.

Also, madnessman/cynan is a likely combo and madnessman didn't once mention cynan as a potential mafia candidate so I'm going to go ahead and vote cynan.

##vote CynanMachae##

I think cynan and madnessman are the mafia, but I need bm and foolishness to back me up here (as in, we're fucked if we split up our votes).

On April 07 2010 13:27 CynanMachae wrote:
Ok sorry guys I couldn't post today, and I did followed up the thread yesterday but I didn't post since there were so little happening and I wanted to give time for people to throw out some votes first.

Because, as it is now, its 3 townies, 2 mafias. With a townie death, mafia is really close to winning so they really must try hard to get a townie lynched. If you look at it that way, they only need ONE vote from one of us (toward a townie) in order to avoid lynching and pretty much win the game (if I'm right, 2 mafia 2 town is a mafia win).

So what do the mafia want? One vote. Best plan? Throw suspicions around, be first to vote to start bandwagons. That's what Vivi and BM did, throwing votes very early, hopeing to get at least one townie to follow them.

Yes, I've been suspicious of Vivi since the beginning. I've also been the one to call Vivi on his bandwagonning of KF91 which he never bothered to answer.

Anyway, I've been looking at the Vivi/Foolishness possibility, because so far Vivi has done a very good job of distancing himself from Foolishness, throwing accusations when it was safe to do so, voting for him, he could even get him lynched and then ride alone to victory, clearing his name up. While this is less of a possibility to me that the BM/Vivi combo, it's worth looking into, but anyway for this day I'm gonna vote Vivi again because he's in both of my possible mafia teams.

Also, for those that are pointing to a me/madnessman mafia combo, just think seriously about it. Yes, from the beggining I've said that I didn't suspect madnessman and just now he said that he thought that I was town. That would be a pretty awesomely bad play to throw out everywhere how we don't suspect the other so that if one get lynched the other dies the next day. Much easier would be to just ignore each other like Vivi and BM have been doing.

Anyway, I've been rambling randomly a bit and my thoughts arent as ordered as I wanted, so I'm gonna say now that I'm voting vivi.

##Vote Vivi57##

Reasons? First, among the possibles mafia teams, he's on both the ones I suspect most (BM/Vivi, Vivi/Foolishness). Also, he's been pretty good at not attaching himself to any bandwagon, like voting for Foolishness alone last day and L on the first day. Also, when I showed up to be quick inactive today he was prertty quick to start bandwagonning me, probably hoping I wouldn't be very much active to defend myself.

Now that I look at that again, Vivi/Foolishness really seems plausible.

On April 07 2010 21:20 Bill Murray wrote:
i find it suspicious of some things you wouldn't notice at first assuming vivi and foolishness are both mafia: vivi tried to get a quick day 1 lynch on me by throwing a vote on me before I was active based upon me not posting yet. That'd be fine if people wouldn't do it, but since it's me, he probably hoped for a quick lynch of someone he knew was town (remember, this is assuming they're mafia).

On pages 7, 8 Foolishness and Vivi both try to start different wagons. Vivi tries to start one on L, and Foolishness tries to start one on RoL. Innocent? possibly, but let's look at it from the perspective that they're mafia. Wouldn't they want veterans to get bandwagoned? Yes. Yes, they would.

On April 08 2010 00:06 CynanMachae wrote:
So what about Vivi then? I do agree that if you and Vivi were mafia, some of the stuff would have to be "staged" and some elaborate plan, but that's not that far-fetched since most of the accusations were easy to dismiss or not that elaborate

You are very quick to dismiss the Vivi/BM possibility. You say you and Vivi aren't mafia, but does that clear Vivi? I don't think so. You say you want me to post more and clear stuff, but the same can be said about Vivi who so far have been delivering far less.

On April 08 2010 07:41 CynanMachae wrote:
I might have missed it, but why did the BM/madnessman pairing seemed less probable?

On April 08 2010 10:38 madnessman wrote:
I made a comment and BM wasn't very happy about it.



So I see that Foolishness is voting in alignment with Vivi...why doesn't that surprise me? I really don't think it would be a "huge, elaborate" plan for Vivi and Foolish to be working together. Why? Vivi defends Foolish when there's pressure on him, and only accuses him only when there's little to no chance he's going to get lynched. Sounds like a pretty good way for mafia members to disassociate themselves from each other. Also, I don't think we can take Vivi's voting pattern as coincidence. He puts himself in danger of being lynched, when Foolish is casting the deciding vote and could vote for him. If a regular townie thought Foolish was mafia, why would he put himself in a position where Foolish could easily get him lynched?

Looks like the game is in BM's hands now. It's wound up to be me and cynan voting against vivi and foolishness, with BM casting the deciding vote. I think I've brought up specific scenarios where vivi acts scummy, and acting as though he's in alignment with foolish, which would make voting for vivi a pretty safe bet. On the other hand, vivi and foolishness hardly provide solid reasons why they think cynan is scum. So I don't know what else I can say...Seems pretty clear cut to me, but BM I hope yo uthink all this over and make the right decision. Unless you're mafia then we're screwed with you casting the final vote :/.

On April 08 2010 11:00 madnessman wrote:
eh. what's zona's policy in the case of a tie? -.^