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On March 23 2010 21:00 Ace wrote: I'm looking for temp replacements for L while he's banned. If anyone viewing the game wants to come forward and volunteer please send me a PM about it. If this doesn't happen can we just kill him anyway and steal any potential nukes? I'm saddened by another game not getting ruined by the master  | ||
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On March 23 2010 22:54 Ace wrote: 2 months? o.0 And yes L is still able to be killed even if I dont find a replacement. He's pretty much still fair game, guess you guys can consider him a lurker ^_^ If someone has nukes when they die the nukes somehow disappear, kind of like Iraq irl. On March 23 2010 13:12 Ace wrote: Votes With 22 players, it's 12 to lynch! Deadline is Thursday, May 25th 12:00AM ET ^^ All this bio-chemical warfare. We should go for the ez kill then and go for L if he's going to be inactive anyway. Any other target would be foolish at this point, unless someone thinks there's any reason to suspect anyone else. ##vote L | ||
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On March 23 2010 23:25 JeeJee wrote: also why the fuck are you voting for L? sure he will be afk for 2 days, but when has L's activity ever been a problem in mafia? as soon as he's unbanned, he'll hop right back in. yah he's going to hop right in and steer the town away from victory. this is repetitive behavior and it's best to just nip it in the butt and get rid of the excess of retard in this game. | ||
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On March 24 2010 01:12 meeple wrote: Ace, can you clarify this? Do we need to launch a nuke before voting? Can the nuke be a fake one? Read Nikon's post. You need a lynch or no lynch to end the day, not the other way around. And I'm not accusing L because of past game performance. I'm accusing L because he is the "most" inactive player for the next two days. Why keep him around anyway if he's going to not contribute. When he's unbanned chances are he will continue to muck up the thread with his "stellar" analysis. | ||
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On March 24 2010 01:23 meeple wrote: Yeah I didn't refresh before I posted that... I don't particularly mind if L goes... but in general I prefer to lynch active players that looks scummy. At least they leave post trails and we can look at who they support and such in order to get info on more potential mafia. Having said that, this early in the game there's not much of a trail in any case. Thats why the inactive route is the better choice. Maybe we should wait a bit and get a better look at who's going to be useless in this game and spare L. I guarantee 2-3 idiots are going to stroll in here in about 6 hours saying "oh hey just saw the game started" or "oh I was so busy with schoolwork I had no time. I guess I'll check up on the thread now." | ||
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On March 24 2010 01:53 haster27 wrote: What I am worried about is that Mafia will not adopt lurker policy due to Ace's harsh mod-kill policy. Because of mandatory 1 post per day and one has to vote within the thread, it will be really hard for anyone to try to be inactive without drawing town attention onto themselves. I do recommend waiting for everyone to make their first post, but lynching due to inactivity should only apply when there are absolutely no suspect present. I'm completely fine with that. I mean only two of us voted so far so it's not like Ace is rushing for the Night post. It would be wise to note who hasn't posted as of yet and to get on their ass to come up with a plan. If people think that being quiet is going to make them an asset later they better wake the fuck up and start posting. Ask questions. Suggest targets. Suspect people. CMON GUYS THIS IS MAFIA! | ||
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On March 24 2010 02:14 Versatile wrote: all i'm saying is, we're trying to create town order. so when the town decides person A needs to be nuked, how do we stop persons B-J from all firing a nuke @ him and ending the game? we have to think about this if we're trying to avoid chaos. Simple. We need to establish that though townies and mafia both have nuking capabilities, that neither side should use them or else we're all fucked. Nukes are our bittersweet friend, and mafia shouldn't be using them unless they're all retarded, and I don't think Chezinu signed up so we're okay! What we should do is discourage the use of nukes for at least two days. From there we can determine how to eliminate players by using nukes, if necessary. If we keep the count down by the end of the game we will be fine. For all we know the mafia could launch a nuke when the towns ahead just to call it a draw, and vice-versa. If you have a special role then keep it to yourself and when the time comes, put it to good use. I'm not sure how these roles are going to work so we're really going to have to play this game as an old-fashioned lynch, night, kill, clues, day, lynch etc. game. Don't focus on nuking. If someone threatens to use a nuke we have to be on top of counter/anti-nuking. | ||
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On March 24 2010 03:19 Zona wrote: There are two things to discuss though - if we approach a day deadline with no majority vote. Is it worth it to launch a fake nuke to extend the day? And the amendment to my plan of LYNCHING the first nuke-initiator rather than revenge-nuking them. @Xelin. I don't think we should be making any assumptions about the game setup. As Versatile stated earlier in response to a declaration I made about RoL's alignment (which I now retract, due to her point), Ace could have done anything for this game. The setup is hidden for such a reason. I would guess there's plenty of roles to mess around with anything. The game host does often derive enjoyment by seeing how everything mucks up everything else, especially with such a format. No. If he hit no majority then we're effing stupid. There's no need to have people crying wolf when we're trying to retain order with nuking. | ||
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Pick one of the three, we can't afford to have a split between them though. | ||
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##Vote Abenson He's the most inactive, has refused to post his reasoning for lynching L, and I'd be willing to give L the benefit of the doubt that he will be helpful in the future. | ||
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What the hell RoL? There is a limit to how many nukes can be launched, and you arbitrarily decided to send one flying through the air? We have no info in this thread right now other than than the fact that you're acting like an idiot. | ||
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On March 26 2010 02:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: LEARN2READ. Just because you are dumb enough to go with whatever a bunch of guys said about nuking being "anti-town" doesn't mean it is. I disagreed with that, and I nuked someone I found suspicious. You retard I was one of the first people to propose an anti-nuking policy. | ||
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On March 26 2010 04:54 XeliN wrote: Versatile are you black? you seem black... I always thought Versatile was a girl... I know we have a couple wimins playing in mafia games, notably some of the mods' girlfriends. | ||
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On March 26 2010 07:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: L I think the town shouldn't save Caller of their own will because the act of agreeing to do that could save a mafia, or a townie. However if we agree to NOT anti-nuke the mafia would have to make a decision. Do we let our player die? or do we use OUR anti-nukes and try to convince the town the next day that some ingenious townie decided to save caller AGAINST the towns will. Which since we agree this play is mafia you can see who is trying to save caller. Not saving anti-nuking caller is the smartest thing to do in this situation. and Haster7, I am not a very emotional player. I get irritated sometimes, that's about it. I will not be launching retaliation nukes every 5 minutes, considering I don't have any left. yes you are lol stop lying. | ||
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On March 26 2010 21:13 Zona wrote: I would like to disagree with this. Since this game has no PMs allowed, confirming OpZ does not allow us to "build a circle" because no one else can talk with OpZ privately, detectives cannot use OpZ as a mouthpiece, and none of the regular benefits of a "town circle" can be realized. Well for all we know Ace could have informed that the detective role was aloud to PM other players.... ie check the rules: No talking about the game outside the thread. This includes Private Messages unless your role gives you permission to do so. You will be mod-killed if this rule is broken. I mean Ace is really putting us in the dark here since we don't really know what the role PM's specifically stated, if anything was said at all. | ||
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On March 28 2010 04:28 Elemenope wrote: If he said Yes, then he didn't change rules at all if you phrased it as you said in your post at the bottom of page 54. I'm glad the missile towards me was shot down, but what the fuck at these other missiles. Admittedly, both of these are rather expected given the L was saved situation. I do think that L's pro-town and these nukes toward him are out of spite rather than for scum tells; I'd like to see L saved, but that's really up to the town and if they feel we need to save antis or not. Keep this in mind: NK may shoot another nuke tomorrow; he has anonymous nuking powers and has been shown to be clearly antitown since nobody has come up to state "hey, I'm NK, this is why I shot at Elemenope". As for the Amber-d3 inactivity: there's a lot of people who I haven't seen actually post real content about these last missiles, namely: d3 - posted just a few lines xelin - posted explaining his reasoning behind his day one pre-lynch actions Amber - hasn't posted nearly anything about these nukes Caller - hasn't posted anything at all I believe since RoL's missile was shot down Zona - This is a big surprise in my opinion. He hasn't posted at all since March 27 2010 05:57. 3 missiles has been shot since then, where are you Zona? Fishball - Posted somewhat early on, but recent posts have been lacking in terms of content other than showing how L is hypocritical/a douche/whatever Nikon - Last main post was during the 'should Japan come out and claim' nemY - Hasn't posted anything worth of content since his vote to lynch RoL. We have had what, 6 missiles shot by now? It shouldn't be that difficult to have something to talk about. Even if it's a "hey, I don't agree with this missile getting shot down" or whatever or "OMG THERE'S AN NK WITH ANONYMOUS NUKES". On March 27 2010 23:17 Amber[LighT] wrote: so I guess we're not being conservative about nuking anymore? lol Page 53 for reference. If you read the first few pages of this thread you should know of my stance on nuking. I'm not going to re-iterate what I said, but JeeJee and I have been on the same wavelength for the past 50 or so pages. I voted for L originally and then moved to Abenson, didn't remove since the mob went for RoL, who I figured was just being a complete faggot (check page 33 or so where I called him out for being a retard). I didn't believe RoL was mafia, but he went against the policy I assumed the town agreed on, which was "NO NUKING!" The lynch was justifiable so I can't sit and point fingers. I have nothing to say about the recent nuke-happy players. As I quoted from the bottom of Page 53 I asked a sarcastic question. What more can I ask since the town as completely abandoned playing this game with any structure. | ||
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On March 29 2010 00:06 Zona wrote: We have 3 nuke-initiators. If we get no further information I'm comfortable lynching any among them. But we haven't even hit the first night yet, why don't we at least wait to see what information surfaces before we talk about an event that's far in the future? L was so confident that tree.hugger was targeting him and out of all of the people who have been targeted his posts prior to death seem to be the best leads we have. If we are going to prioritize lynching I think he should be first. I'm still not advocating nuking anyone anymore. We have already moved from Very Low to Low ToD. We need to conserve nuke usage. Here's where we need to make sure that we conserve our resources for the late-game (re-hashing 50 pages prior) | ||
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I never had any aggression towards any L post after that and never disagreed with anything he had to say. He wasn't a threat to the town when he was unbanned, and if I could have stopped his death I would have. If you think I'm before tree.hugger we need to sort this out asap. | ||
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On March 29 2010 01:47 ~OpZ~ wrote: And also note Amber, you were part of my massive post of quotes, just to show the stance on L in the beginning of the game. I could of quoted almost every post of yours and then you just fell off the radar. And now you pop up to point at tree.hugger using L's logic? The same logic you and him both have been discrediting? I think you should take precedent over tree.hugger. You started the bus. my last post. I knew the L bandwagon would be a good way to attract the masses. Suspect me if you want, but I never actually believed he would be lynched. My last post switching from L to Abenson: On March 25 2010 01:38 Amber[LighT] wrote: ok ok i see whats going on here. There's way too much nonsensical reasoning for lynching L and I'm not going to be part of this bandwagon. ##Vote Abenson He's the most inactive, has refused to post his reasoning for lynching L, and I'd be willing to give L the benefit of the doubt that he will be helpful in the future. | ||
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On March 29 2010 23:22 ~OpZ~ wrote: Oh, and Zona? That problem with the mafia trying to get a draw? Don't you support saving anti-nukes? Well guess what...Town launches almost all their nukes, increase ToD, no one needs to anti-nuke, so all other anti-nukes are saved. Then when mafia tries to force a draw, you antinuke it. They would have to reveal themselves by nuking to begin with, and at the ToD's high point, a townie will not fire a nuke. AGAIN, you've argued to save anti-nukes for late game. So your argument makes no sense why wouldn't we want to increase the ToD. If it's the town launching the nukes at ONE player, then the MAFIA can't nuke anyway. Town wont want to nuke Mafia will possibly want to cause draw, and will be forced to out themselves by nuking. The rest of the anti-nukes would be saved to prevent the draw, as town would have no need for nukes. The mafia couldn't use them as day kills because the ToD, and it would out themselves. Find the problem there. Because I don't see it. We wouldn't stop the 3 to 6 nukes flying at our target, so we'd have the anti-nukes to stop mafia from causing the draw that you had a problem with. This plan, though I agree with, seems extremely risky. We're threatening a number of townies' lives. The mafia could outnumber us if we're sending nukes around like they're going out of style and killing our own. That and we'll begin accusing ourselves for killing our town foolishly. | ||
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On March 30 2010 00:12 ~OpZ~ wrote: That plan...Amber...Involves NUKING ONE PERSON, and leaving it at that. Everyone launches their nukes at a single person. I posted it last page, a development off of L's original plan. whoops back to work for me | ||
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On March 30 2010 01:58 ~OpZ~ wrote: My only request is the world stops ignoring Amber, and blaming versatile for the bandwagon on L. It was Amber who made the most posts saying Kill L, he'll be inactive and we can't do nothing with inactive townies. I didn't create a bandwagon intending on actually killing L. I spotted when the mindless drones started voting L and I switched my vote to one of those mindless drones, someone who should still be a big suspect in this game... | ||
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yes someone who should still be a suspect | ||
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On March 30 2010 02:33 Nikon wrote: What? That's your explanation for why I'm a suspect? That's trash. Versatile, you're #1 suspect right now. I suggest you do better or you're being lynched tomorrow. Seriously, you guys just amaze me. wow nice copy and paste mafia scum | ||
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you're really pushing this against me aren't you.... It's funny that you think I'm trying to deceive the town even though I've been honest from the start. I've confided with you my role/ability for this game and yet you continue to push the issue that I didn't read _EVERY_ detail of this game. You want me to post but we're just running around in circles. This has been the endless day and I'm sick of it. Though I thought the nuke on TH was justified I'm just done with sitting on Day 1. These trigger happy players are causing more chaos than the mafia ever could. I never reacted poorly to anything you had to say about me, and I've been trying to maintain diplomacy. You know I can nuke, and yet unlike half this town I'm choosing not to be a buzz-kill on the game and go after the first person I suspect with my weaponry. What more do you want from me. You want to discuss the lack of clues we have? Or maybe we can discuss how I'm not reading everything in the thread, but when I post I get scrutinized, while other players sit idling in the corner and have barely said a word. If mafia is smart I'll be dead in the morning, since you outed me so nicely... and I really appreciate that. I'll be more of a shield to make sure we can actually lynch some mafia, since nuking obviously has failed miserably. | ||
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On March 30 2010 06:40 Nikon wrote: I'm thinking that about a quarter of the town is already dead, and it's still Day 1. That's drastic, we can't just go on trying to lynch mafia the normal way, as they've already been given a solid headstart. Also, our medic is dead, noone knows if there's a second one, and given the numer of players, and the fact that some of the people might just have anti-nukes instead, it's logical to conclude that there's no second medic, and so mafia pretty much have guaranteed nightkills. And as a result of this analysis you felt potentially wasting an anti-nuke would be a good idea? | ||
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On March 30 2010 05:17 Versatile wrote: i don't get it opz. where did amber say he didn't understand why RoL was getting lynched? and if he did contradict himself like that, he should definitely explain. I never didn't understand why he got lynched. I said I didn't join the bandwagon because I knew he was an idiot, and my vote didn't matter since there were 14 people stacked on him when I checked to see if I should switch. (check my flame post on page 30 something) | ||
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On March 30 2010 06:43 ~OpZ~ wrote: Yo....Plain and simple...Amber, my logic on your contradictions, you tell RoL to read the thread, when you yourself MISSED MINE AND ABENSONS ROLE CLAIMS. You say Abenson is SUSPICIOUS. He's a MASON. Me and him both. I'm not suspicious but he is, yet I'm the only reason he isn't suspicious. That is why. How versatile didn't get that when I asked her if Abenson was suspicious. I figured she'd be laughing her ass off. Especially after my post of you telling RoL to read the thread, when you yourself missed the conversation between me haster and lmnop ON THE SAME PAGE you are telling RoL shit? How do you not see the irony? -_-... It was day 1 and he admitted to not reading the introduction or pages 1-15. The content was straightforward at this time. All of a sudden you guys have a nuking party in my absence so I try to get the cliffs on what the hell is happening. You're taking what I said out of context. RoL not reading the RULES and me not reading 25 pages of BS are two completely different things. Most importantly he nuked someone without any reason and I am just sitting here twiddling my thumbs waiting for night to fall. You can't compare the two scenarios. | ||
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On March 30 2010 12:15 XeliN wrote: On reflection going to delete this, checked incase it broke rules but still it is clearly a dubious line. DO NOT edit posts. This is modkillable like half the rules here. that's a line that's obviously got a ton of gray area | ||
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On April 15 2010 16:45 Nikon wrote: I got killed before I could set forth my serial killer claim  I didn't actually think there was a serial killer in the game. Let me say that I killed Amber[Light], and when there was only 1 kill the next night I claimed vet to further fuel the suspicions about a serial killer in the game. So, uh, yeah.AH IT WAS YOU!!!! Anti-town scum I actually thought it was Caller... he's such a dick ^^ And yah he was meant to be the lone-survivor of the game. Probably should have saved that night hit... | ||
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