World at War Mafia - Page 7

On March 29 2010 00:59 Versatile wrote:
it's on page 20, if that helps. it's easy to determine that zona believed the mason claim before many others, as he was the one who started the bandwagon on RoL after the claim.

On March 29 2010 01:33 Amber[LighT] wrote:


L was so confident that tree.hugger was targeting him and out of all of the people who have been targeted his posts prior to death seem to be the best leads we have. If we are going to prioritize lynching I think he should be first. I'm still not advocating nuking anyone anymore. We have already moved from Very Low to Low ToD. We need to conserve nuke usage. Here's where we need to make sure that we conserve our resources for the late-game (re-hashing 50 pages prior)

On March 29 2010 01:46 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I switched to Abenson. I finally bought into the idea that he would be an asset to the town. Abenson was band-wagon voting L and it was obvious who should have been lynched. Then RoL casted his nuke and the town went with the anti-nuking policy we (I thought) established.

I never had any aggression towards any L post after that and never disagreed with anything he had to say. He wasn't a threat to the town when he was unbanned, and if I could have stopped his death I would have.

If you think I'm before tree.hugger we need to sort this out asap.

On March 29 2010 01:49 tree.hugger wrote:
~OpZ~, I've read your posts on the last two pages, and I have absolutely no idea what you're advocating. Absolutely none. Your wall-of-text has nothing holding it together, I have absolutely no idea what point you're trying to prove.

You've advocated Day 2 lynching me, then XeliN, and then Caller over the last two pages.

Please stop spamming the thread. You, Versatile, Abenson, and the rest of your mafia compatriots should probably stop attracting more suspicion.

On March 29 2010 05:05 Elemenope wrote:
To OpZ and Xelin; yes I proposed lynching Abenson for confirmation; Versatile pointed out about how this more applies to DT-red claims rather than Masons, and once Abenson confirmed, I am sold that you two are Masons. Yeah, it may seem like a ballsy move for scum to RC as Masons out in the open like that, but considering the last game I played was like...the first Red Army game which was one of the two games I played, I don't particularly know people's playstyles that well, so I don't attempt to put moves like these past others, especially when if the move works, it would put the town at a huge disadvantage.

To Xelin, the jump to accusing you for launching the nuke was simply based off your vote for me considering nobody else had voted for me IIRC. Coupled with the fact that this nuke was out of the blue makes it easier. I just attempted to find other things to support this claim, and I would've been left wondering until countries were revealed/your death, but you RCed anyway, even after stating that you wouldn't hide your nuke. As for your claim that 'do you really think this ability [the one to fire an anonymous nuke during the day with no retaliation or trace] would go to mafia', it's quite the anti-town move when used. Especially when tagged along that you didn't explain your nuke until after it was shot down. We had stated that any unsupported town nukes are clearly anti-town, and you had even come up with a plan to lynch these nukers, yet you go off and shoot one your own, anonymously so that nobody could track who shot it, and then you attempt to say that this ability is a pro-town ability going from pure logic on the two points of the ability is too weak for scum and Ace wouldn't give this ability to scum?

Then I read some more and then I see a nuke by OpZ towards Tree.Hugger.

Whether this nuke gets shot down or not, I agree with Versatile and Zona that we should wait out the day and night. As Zona said, randomly shot nukes are more likely to hit town than mafia due to the number advantage town has and the fact that day 1 suspicions are just that: suspicions. We have nothing to go off other than intuition.

As for haster, although this would be a resolution to the the nuke launchers, one thing you have to keep in mind is this: our ToD has increased by one stage when the second nuke landed. If we go by stages, such as Very Low [the start], Low [where we are at now], it is reasonable to assume that perhaps the next is medium, then high, very high, game over, or something similar. Now, Ace may have varying number of nukes for each of these, but the fact that two nukes have landed and we go into low is kind of unsettling. Along with the fact that if the nuke from OpZ falls and then someone nukes Xelin, we have 4 nukes that have landed I believe, then we're in medium already at day 1. So much for keeping a low ToD, eh? Regardless of the retaliation or lack thereof from treehugger, I don't believe nuking Xelin is the right course of action due to ToD. I had thought that Ace would assume we would launch many nukes considering it's TL and not all of us are the best at responding to personal attacks, but unless he has more than just five stages of ToD before game over, then we're in for a very quick game over. We also have to keep in mind that there may be a third party out there with the intention of having this happen as long as he or she lives.
I'm of the opinion that we should just let this resolve how it is now, shoot down the nuke/leave it alone, preferably save it due to this ToD issue which is going to be a major issue at this rate. Go to night. Then come back the next day with much more information than we had the previous day. So basically: no more nukes

On March 29 2010 09:55 tree.hugger wrote:

Hey, Opz, I spent 24 hours explaining why I nuked L, I'd like to ask you to explain why exactly you felt it was necessary to nuke me.

On March 29 2010 10:12 Zona wrote:

Each of those that you're trying to avoid being "lumped" with also thought like you did. They all nuked someone highly suspicious in their mind.

Did you just ignore the entire argument where the earlier in the game, the less information all town players have, and the more likely they will screw up their unrestrained kills and hit fellow town members? Right now you've just declared that you're better than everyone else...and you're not.

You say it's like day 3. It's not. We only have one concluded vote count. We don't have any flipped mafia, so we don't have any mafia statements we're sure of that we can examine for collusion with other probable members.

You've just added to the crapshoot that has already gotten 3 town members killed (1 killed by lynch). Perhaps probability will dictate that you'll score this time, or perhaps not, but you're not playing to further the best interests of the town.

This game is town vs mafia, not a bunch of lone rangers working alone vs mafia.