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On March 25 2010 21:17 Amber[LighT] wrote:
I don't understand why someone launches a nuke when we specifically say "DO NOT LAUNCH ANY NUKES IF YOU ARE PRO-TOWN."
What the hell RoL? There is a limit to how many nukes can be launched, and you arbitrarily decided to send one flying through the air? We have no info in this thread right now other than than the fact that you're acting like an idiot.
I can understand it
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He knows he's not mafia. He wants to feel involved. And he has pointed out his suspicion of a good player. Whether he is an idiot or not, only time will tell. I would love to hear a serious post from caller. (I lol'd massively at his response to the nuke)
Remember Amber, I've pretty much said I would do the something similar....
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On March 25 2010 23:37 L wrote:
Lol i'm back :3.
1) If abenson confirms that he/opz are masons, killing one of them lets every person in the game roleclaim to opz via confirmation. This is big shit.
Abenson already confirmed it in the thread. PM's are disallowed unless your role grants it. And I've pretty much explained his and my own innocence pretty satisfactory I feel.
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On March 25 2010 12:00 Abenson wrote:I'm sorry, I have had quite a busy week... First of all, I would like to thank ~OpZ~ for saving me back there, when I was on the chopping block. I really appreciate it but I was unable to give my thanks to you right away. I also apologize in advance of my complete uselessness in terms of aiding the town. Here is my attempt at redemption: Note: I hereby confirm that I am indeed in a mason with ~OpZ~ I would like to point out johnnyspazzHe's been active in terms of defending L early on in the game, when we were bickering whether or not to kill him day 1 Show nested quote +On March 24 2010 09:28 johnnyspazz wrote:
Okay, you've convinced me nemY
you're right, L contributes to the game way too much and i'm going to guess he is pro-town for now until he starts posting again
##Vote: nemY Also, he seems to be quite intent on pushing for a lynch of random people, jumping from one person to the next Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 07:14 johnnyspazz wrote:
i think the people abstaining are really dumb, you're preventing the town from getting information and we need all the information we can get since there are no clues. if it's true that opz and abenson both know each other's roles and shit, then abenson needs to confirm that in the thread so the suspicion is no longer on them.
we can have them both RC each other in the thread so that if one of them dies, atleast we know that the other one is also telling the truth since the majority of the votes are on them. This is after ~OpZ~ saved my ass and managed to convince many that I am town. Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 07:23 johnnyspazz wrote:
okay if you guys think lynching either abenson or opz is bad, then who else should we vote for? i'm willing to consider someone else It should also be noted that he voted for me, L, RoL, nemy off the top of my head. JSpazz's post count has been near the middle. He may be active, but he hasn't posted anything that I would count as extremely helpful. The only thing he has posted is his opinion on the matter and nothing analytic. Conclusion: Like ~OpZ~, I am hereby suggesting JSpazz as a lynch victim. P.S. I know that many of you don't have a good impression of me, but I believe that by now, thanks to ~OpZ~, you believe I am at least pro-town. Therefore I would like to request that you do not waste lynches on me and I will attempt to improve as a mafia player on overall.
Or Nemy.
Nemy's play style will make it extremely difficult to discern his alignment by analytical means.
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I don't feel just having anti-nukes makes you too special...
I pretty much have claimed to have the capacity to nuke everyone into oblivion....
Dunno...Whole world's wild...
Thoughts on Nemy/Jspazz versatile?
I still dunno...Like I've said, I probably would of pulled RoL's nuke stunt. But I would of already accepted death as inevitable by that point...
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Also, I'm concerned that this vote changing will stop us from lynching today...As I fully support no lynches, it's not too much of a big deal, but I am wanting some information...
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On March 26 2010 01:20 haster27 wrote:
Okay, I am starting to note that some people are abstaining due to RoL's obviously pissed-off Townie behaviour and is thinking of pursuing other suspects. We need to decide upon now what we want to do, because wishy-washy behaviour delaying who to lynch at the last minute could lead to no lynch. Since returning point of L who I had been advocating for has been disappointing so far, I at least want to salvage day one with some form of information.
My position is that unless there are clear suspect, we should maintain our vote on RoL. This is solely because of his nuke launch; had we not discussed that showing unwillingness to punish the player from non-consensus lynching will quickly collapse this Town into state of Wild Wild West? If we let him go off free, what prevents any random Townie or random Mafia from suddenly nuking someone with somewhat convincing reasoning?
His reason for nuking...Is the same reason any selfish townie that knows he's townie, or mafia with nukes would use. Nuke the fuck outta a bitch. I honestly feel we haven't voted for a single mafia yet, with the exception of possibly L. L has caught so much defense, which can be understandable, so I won't write him off yet.
No one else has...RoL's losing support...But I feel we should follow through with RoL....Just to see where the people that dropped their votes off of him lie....
That will provide us with more information than changing to someone else.
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On March 26 2010 01:25 Versatile wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 01:16 meeple wrote:On March 26 2010 01:10 Versatile wrote:On March 26 2010 00:04 haster27 wrote:On March 25 2010 23:37 L wrote:
1) If abenson confirms that he/opz are masons, killing one of them lets every person in the game roleclaim to opz via confirmation. This is big shit.
How can we role-claim to him without getting it also known by anyone else when PM is prohibited? all hail the return of the noble and wise L, who can't even get the rules right. smh. C'mon that's not really necessary... There have been several people who got caught up on the rules in this game. It's bound to happen. Being condescending about it just starts flamewars and pisses people off. wait...what....lemme listen.....yup...that's right. *nods* i still don't care. listen. at some point, all of you are going to have to decide: is L a good mafia player who makes dumbass mistakes, or is he a bad mafia player? going off the assumption that he's awesome at this game, a mistake of that nature should be beneath him, and strikes me as something to note. in an case, since when has pissing someone off deter me from making a comment? lecture someone who cares.
You can be rather rude homie...Although it reminds me of Showtime. Downside, Flamewars between townies. Upside, piss off a weak mafia member, and you made townie day. Chances are the first is more probable.
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Watch Caller be like DT or med or something...Lol
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On March 26 2010 05:46 L wrote:
Oh yeah, ##Vote tree.hugger
Kid clearly wanted to wagon me. I'd much prefer that we nuke the shit out of RoL and use anti-nukes on any retaliatory strikes. If he's town he shouldn't throw extra nukes out. If he's mafia, good. 2 seems like a good number of missiles.
The list of people who wanted to off me during a 36 hour ban is either full of retards, mafia, or people who are still consumed with the ghost of the rage donut. I suggest the best course of action for the town is to simply lynch everyone on that list.
Except me. I only voted you to push you ahead of Abenson. I never supported the lynch of you, I just merely said if someone that did pops red, we slaughter you like a pig. =D
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L that is a nice point actually. Let me get this straight tho. So you suggest changing the lynch to Tree.Hugger, and nuking RoL?
Make's sense that RoL wouldn't retaliate if he were town...And increasing the ToD would reduce the incentive of Mafia to nuke later in the game.
Don't know if we have enough people to switch the lynch to tree.hugger though...
Everyone lurking right now please post, yay or nay to this....As haster said, it seems to be a pretty legit plan. I also don't support L on a warpath either, but it seems like a nice plan.
So everyone, roll call. Let us know whos here.
Also L...No SC2 in my life, sadly.
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On March 26 2010 07:44 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 07:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On March 26 2010 06:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah i guess the whole problem with this RoL thing is that somehow people got convinced to vote for him for being inactive, so he goes ahead and nukes someone - really, we should have seen this coming. There are probably only a few players in this game who wouldn't fire off the last minute death nuke on whoever they find suspicious. This then puts us in a tough spot because now we're forced to lynch him by protocol even though he is no longer inactive. Tough shit i guess.
Depending on how the night kill turns out, I suggest looking at d3_crescentia and tree.hugger and maybe Xelin. It should also be somewhat clear about a few persons' alignment besides Opz and Aben.
Also, i don't think we should read too hard into the people defending or supporting the lynch of RoL when he flips. It's easy to incriminate someone who fucked up and both town and mafia alike will have called him out on it. What the fuck? Do you guys not understand I was inactive for like 24 hours and got fucking mobbed for it? Yeah I became fucking active, because my schedule fucking allowed it. Its very similar to how tomorrow I wouldn't post for around 12 hours because I have school from 10-1 then work from 3-10. Yet you are surprised that on my day off from school/work that I am suddenly "active"? This has to be some elaborate joke to annoy me. I think you have misinterpreted my post. I was expressing my surprise that the town had somehow formed a lynch wagon on you for the sole reason of inactivity, esp. in light of the other inactives around. I personally would not have voted for you, but you decided to nuke Caller. The point of my first paragraph is that originally you were going to be lynched for being inactive (a bad reason, given that there were better lynch targets for today), but when you became active again - a chance to redeem yourself and show interest - you decided to nuke Caller, thus forcing the town to kill you anyway in a grim irony. It is thus 'tough shit' for the town.
His nuking of Caller is the only reason we have time to talk about this.
L, I thought of a potentially deadly downside to your plan. You being mafia, 2 possible town kills become 3. There is no guarantee that anyone listed is mafia. While, you did catch tree.hugger lurking, and the plan does sound pretty rational, the missing information is very much a problem. I would be willing to risk it though and change my vote to tree.hugger.
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Oh...and what is your take on a super speedy lynch of tree.hugger, given a proper amount of people iNf?
L's logic for not nuking tree.hugger is pretty reasonable.
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And that isn't even mentioning the fact that tree.hugger is failing to make a decent defense of himself. Also, BM isn't being sir spamalot this game as he was in previous games. Some of his posts are short, but he's actually being useful. Prodding meeple. Pointing out some inconsistencies. Keeping the town updated. And overall I feel he is being useful. While I have yet to decide if he's just stirring up a lot of random shit, he has been rather smart with random accusations. I disagree with his harsh stance on RoL. Don't get me wrong, RoL dieing will provide tremendous insight. He's said it himself. But L dieing would provide just as much insight, if not more.
One thing in L's defense, he was almost bussed earlier, so I'm less suspicious of him. Forgot about that a second ago.
SERIOUSLY PEOPLE, READ L'S PLAN WITH TREE.HUGGER AND POST IF YOU ARE HERE AND WILLING TO DO IT. HELL, POST IF YOU ARE HERE ANYWAY. WE NEED SOME THOUGHTS, THIS IS IMPORTANT
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On March 26 2010 08:11 L wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 07:49 ~OpZ~ wrote:On March 26 2010 07:44 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On March 26 2010 07:28 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On March 26 2010 06:02 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:
Yeah i guess the whole problem with this RoL thing is that somehow people got convinced to vote for him for being inactive, so he goes ahead and nukes someone - really, we should have seen this coming. There are probably only a few players in this game who wouldn't fire off the last minute death nuke on whoever they find suspicious. This then puts us in a tough spot because now we're forced to lynch him by protocol even though he is no longer inactive. Tough shit i guess.
Depending on how the night kill turns out, I suggest looking at d3_crescentia and tree.hugger and maybe Xelin. It should also be somewhat clear about a few persons' alignment besides Opz and Aben.
Also, i don't think we should read too hard into the people defending or supporting the lynch of RoL when he flips. It's easy to incriminate someone who fucked up and both town and mafia alike will have called him out on it. What the fuck? Do you guys not understand I was inactive for like 24 hours and got fucking mobbed for it? Yeah I became fucking active, because my schedule fucking allowed it. Its very similar to how tomorrow I wouldn't post for around 12 hours because I have school from 10-1 then work from 3-10. Yet you are surprised that on my day off from school/work that I am suddenly "active"? This has to be some elaborate joke to annoy me. I think you have misinterpreted my post. I was expressing my surprise that the town had somehow formed a lynch wagon on you for the sole reason of inactivity, esp. in light of the other inactives around. I personally would not have voted for you, but you decided to nuke Caller. The point of my first paragraph is that originally you were going to be lynched for being inactive (a bad reason, given that there were better lynch targets for today), but when you became active again - a chance to redeem yourself and show interest - you decided to nuke Caller, thus forcing the town to kill you anyway in a grim irony. It is thus 'tough shit' for the town. His nuking of Caller is the only reason we have time to talk about this. L, I thought of a potentially deadly downside to your plan. You being mafia, 2 possible town kills become 3. There is no guarantee that anyone listed is mafia. While, you did catch tree.hugger lurking, and the plan does sound pretty rational, the missing information is very much a problem. I would be willing to risk it though and change my vote to tree.hugger. Its potentially deadly that we aren't hitting assured mafia members? Shocker. That's kinda the risk that any lynch has.
Exceptionally. We don't know how many mafia, or how town aligned you are.
=P Conspiracy theory:
L is mafia trying to make us kill 3 townies?!
But you almost got bussed so I doubt it.
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On March 26 2010 08:06 Iaaan wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2010 01:09 Versatile wrote:
well, i know RoL thinks zona is mafia, but i think that's just because he's pissed.
as far as suspect, my personal list would be jspazz and iaaan.
you convinced me on jspazz and iaaan has had a posting style that stands out as strange to me.
i'm not sold on nemy yet. need more analysis. I think your suspicious of me just because I was being rude to you. RoL has given us alot of nice content, which is good, when we kill him we will learn more from his posts than we would have if he didn't post at all, obviously. While RoL may disagree with the no nuke thing, that is too bad, if he really wanted to use nukes it would be fine to discuss it, not to just use one. He has to die or the game could easily just turn into a shitstorm. We should not waste our anti nukes to shoot his nuke down; Caller has not done anything that makes him worth saving. Simple as that, we get information, we lose someone who has not proved useful. Welcome back L O: Treehugger seems semi reasonable to lynch (at least for day 1), but it will have to wait. How posted why already, and in addition to that, we only have like an hour left to vote, right? Not enough time to switch to anyone but RoL. tl;dr Lynch RoL, Nuke Caller, wait for night post
Shitstorm? Do you think this will be like Callers game? No. Executions were instant in that game. We have a 24 Hour chance to stop nukes. And I know for a fact their are anti-nukes floating around. Don't suck up to make yourself any less suspect. We already stated we could slaughter RoL even if we didn't lynch him. So switching doesn't matter, because RoL would still die even if he didn't get lynched. Ya dig?
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8:54 KST...Very shortly
I don't think we can do it...And no body wont post they're here...
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I thought it only extended the day once? Rereading of rules...And I don't see how this will not re-extend the day...Wows......L you crazy sob!! Hahhahahaha
Wonder what Ace is going to say.
And the post for the launch might be hilarious.
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Well Iaaan, Ready to vote for tree.Hugger?
Lol. You said he would be a good candidate.
(I'm going to wait for Ace's post of epic pissed offness that will surely occur. I'm sure he's going to laugh too...but probably be mad...actually...I'm just very curious what you do Ace, so please let us know your first reaction...I chocked on Hawaiian punch lol)
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On March 26 2010 08:36 haster27 wrote:
I'm worried about Ace typing in something like "L launched a normal missile, and since it has been launched from its country, it just took 1 seconds to return back and blast the hell out of the idiotic base that had ordered to bomb itself" because this is game-breaking; the person about to be lynched can literally keep doing this eternally when he do not have any nukes.
Touche...But they really can't. They can only fire one nuke per 24 hours. And at the end of the 24 hours its instalynch.
And if that was a problem..
L could set up a nuke at me if he'd like. My proud nation is not afraid of nuclear missile strikes!
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Please only take out the scientology churches...Thanks in advance.
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On March 26 2010 07:41 L wrote:Show nested quote +L I think the town shouldn't save Caller of their own will because the act of agreeing to do that could save a mafia, or a townie. I think they town shouldn't save Caller because saving him would save someone? Well no shit, sherlock. A better argument might be "because I honestly think he's mafia", but you seem to have avoided that for some reason. Anyways, RoL just said he has no more nukes. If he lies, he's mafia. That pretty much green lights my plan. I'd rather not try to change the vote target and have people fail because we don't have enough people, so I'm going to go ahead and ask people: If you're cool to engage with the nuke RoL and lynch tree.hugger plan, say so in the thread. Lurking people work against us here.
Please people...We need input on this tree.hugger plan...
And I noticed Tree.Hugger "disappeared" again. Along with Iaaan, after your crazy ass pulled that shit.
Also, did it say the server was too busy a few minutes ago?
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