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On March 25 2010 06:57 XeliN wrote:
I don't think there is any need to lynch one, It is extremely unlikely that mafia would pretend to have these roles as the roles themselves are not even disclosed, seems fair to assume they are telling the truth. If mafia were going to fake something as elaborate as this then OpZ and Abenson would not be people I would consider capable of doing so.
On this hypothesis I think people who voted for OpZ might be more suspicious, people voting for Abenson was prodominantly due to his being inactive and useless, weras OpZ actuallly contributed. If he is innocent the first place to look for mafia might be people jumping on the vote OpZ bandwagon (which I started).
I'm kinda typing as I think which is never that successful, I'll try to think through this more clearly but it seems like a good place to potentially start looking for mafia.
All this is dependant on OpZ and Abenson being the roles they//OpZ have claimed but that seems likely to me.
People voting for L are more suspicious. Let me emphasize...I BREADCRUMBED HIS NAME.
What good would that do if I was mafia?!
And stop considering yourself so superior? Jesus...
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Anyway, I gotta go to class again, seeing as I'm missing some lecture on mitosis and have a lab exam in 45 minutes.
I'll post again in about 40.
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On March 25 2010 07:14 johnnyspazz wrote:
i think the people abstaining are really dumb, you're preventing the town from getting information and we need all the information we can get since there are no clues. if it's true that opz and abenson both know each other's roles and shit, then abenson needs to confirm that in the thread so the suspicion is no longer on them.
we can have them both RC each other in the thread so that if one of them dies, atleast we know that the other one is also telling the truth since the majority of the votes are on them.
You are clearly against me. Abenson is offline right now, otherwise he would of posted.
Plain and simple. You don't post anything of value, and you are trying to get the only person I have confirmed killed. I will not accept this lightly. Be forewarned.
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On March 25 2010 07:28 Elemenope wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 07:20 Zona wrote:On March 25 2010 06:51 Elemenope wrote:
If Abenson and OpZ are on the same side as you imply, why not lynch one and we get the validity of the other? This is a TERRIBLE idea from the POV of the town. If you lynch one just to test their claim and it turns out they were indeed masons, you just removed their beneficial power, as the remaining mason is effectively just a normal town member afterwards. Or if there were more than 2, removing one from their circle removes a tremendous amount of benefit that they could have derived from an extra person in the discussion. And if you retort that having 3 people in a circle is almost the same as 2, all I can do is shake my head. The mason advantage is often dismissed too easily, but it's really the same advantage that mafia typically have, on a smaller scale (other than the nightkill). The big mafia advantage is information (they know their team) and coordination, contrasting directly with the town disadvantage of LACK of information, and lack of coordination. A mason group grants a small group of town members this advantage, which can be powerful if used correctly. Also, this is DAY 1. It's not too late to wait to test things, and it's far too early to lynch claimed roles. I don't like how you've totally developed tunnel vision on the two and won't consider anything else, especially on day 1. If you want to talk about anti-town or scummy behavior, there's some right here. Tunnel vision? Who are we going to lynch? Highest votes are L and Abenson. I don't feel we should lynch L as he may have some information from all this when he comes back. Who else am I supposed to focus on when OpZ has been making such contradictory claims and dodging posts that call him out? Especially considering if OpZ and Abenson are in fact masons: Abenson replied what....twice? three times? He may not even roleclaim as Mason either. Some great advantage we have. I only call out behavior that seems anti, and other than people not posting at all, OpZ has been making contradictions in his posts that needs to be called upon. I'd do the same to anybody else if I catch it, it's just that OpZ has been making glaringly huge ones which others have noticed as well. It's not tunnel vision at all, it's just pointing out OpZ stupidity and wanting other people's opinions on it.
Dodge posts that call me out? I'm in biology right now. I'm assuming Abenson is in Highschool, because he isn't on late, and never posts before 3p.m.
What haven't I responded to thats been logical? I've defended myself plenty vs you. You just seem to want me dead. Tunnel Vision was a good tearm?
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Do you have nukes Iaaan?
If not, launch one at RoL.
I'm sure he's fine with a normal missle LOL
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I proposed lynching JohnnySPazz....
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Revenge nuking due to lynching me? I'm sure someone voting for me will be mafia, so taking one out will make me feel better. More information for the town right? You said that yourself. Death=information. I'm not arguing this point further. Those are my sentiments. I know I'm town, just because you want me dead does not make me mafia.
Waiting a day to nuke? Okay, What I meant here is simple, I just didn't fully express the idea. After they launch the nuke and it hits, we will see how much the ToD increases. I hadn't further elaborated, because I was more concerned with my own pending possible lynch.
Not so subtle sarcasm is sexy, do it some more baby, ooooh yea.
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Going back to my lab, as 5 minutes have past, and probably can actually start working on it.
Ciao for now, will be back.
Find some more points please, minus the sarcasm though.
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Lol....RoL has a point. What has my favorite game mod been doing this whole game?
RoL, the one problem we have now is we don't know who's all on and willing to change their votes. The beautiful thing all this vote shifting is doing is giving us a lot of information though. Even if no one pops dead today, would the mafia really be willing to swap to a mafia target?
Maybe one or two, but certainly not the whole mafia team. Just because no one dies, doesn't mean we don't gain information. We just gain it at a later time. Atleast imo.
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(My group put the wrong fluid in a tube, so I had another 5 minutes because it's gotta soak in a solution. Going back to the lab)
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Abenson....Can you please post something...Atleast ACKNOWLE my defense of you?
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Well I read through the rules again...I'm assuming I can post PM's between me and him...
If you would like this I will post them...Wow...I'm thoroughly appalled by this...
I've asked him prior to him getting voted for to post some content, he hasn't replied...He could of talked it over to me his plans or what not....
-_-
But no sense lynching him anyway, he is townie.
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I will not vote for anti-nuke yet, unless Caller starts providing some content, or atleast making me laugh like he did earlier...But he did vote for me....sooooo...lol.
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On March 25 2010 11:33 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2010 10:29 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Well I read through the rules again...I'm assuming I can post PM's between me and him...
If you would like this I will post them...Wow...I'm thoroughly appalled by this...
I've asked him prior to him getting voted for to post some content, he hasn't replied...He could of talked it over to me his plans or what not....
-_-
But no sense lynching him anyway, he is townie. Even I read this part, wtf? Show nested quote +
No talking about the game outside the thread. This includes Private Messages unless your role gives you permission to do so. You will be mod-killed if this rule is broken.
I'm a mason. I can talk outside the thread with Abenson. I'm not sure if I can post what me and him talk about.
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Preach it brotherman Ace...
Lol...So far I'm having a decent amount of fun in your game. Too bad I'll probably die during the night phase.
Anyway, I'm down for jspazz. Or really anyone who voted to lynch L. Although that's assuming L is townie...So maybe the Abenson lynch wagon would be best to jump on. Again, I support Johnnyspazz on this note. He wanted to kill Abenson to confirm me? After I blatantly explained my elaborate post to save Abenson in, what I perceived to be, the distant future? My post where I breadcrumbed, was WAY before the lynch Abenson bandwagon came up and I thought my own death was imminent. I think I got up to 8 or 9? And yet, despite that being so far ahead of Abenson's near lynch, he still pushed for me to PROVE innocence? What better way to prove it? IF I would have died Abenson would of been confirmed. I expected to die and for him to confirm himself using it.
That is why I support lynching Jspazz. Whether it be today or tomorrow, if RoL must die for sake of punishment....
Sorry RoL...I really never supported the lynch on you, it was just a point was made. You posted exactly as nemy posted (minus being rude to me), but for some reason yours seemed enough to get you lynched while Nemy's post didn't seem enough to get him lynched? Odd...
And RoL...I can't blame you for launching the nuke...Caller was one of the people I would of considered too....
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On March 25 2010 15:22 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Opz when was I rude to you? Sorry if I was :D I don't even remember. The lynch on me was messed up, within 2-3 pages I had around 8 votes and there was no actual evidence besides Zona saying "yo hes inactive, get'em dawgz" which was a big wtf? Yeah, maybe I could of played it better. However I like the way this is turning out so far. It makes me feel as though Zona is full of shit and I hope at the end of this some perspective is gained.
Nemy, not you.
Yea...Jumping on you was kinda a weird path to go down. Sorry though, you understand why I had to defend Abenson though, yes?
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On March 25 2010 15:23 johnnyspazz wrote:
oops sorry i need to also check my facts, opz was ahead of abenson in votes at in the beginning at like 2:0 then it became 3:4 and abenson stayed in the lead
Sorry...I thought it was actually 5 (Xelin changed his vote right before I got another vote on me so it was 4), but I was insanely paranoid. And then it switched from me to my partner catching my partner catching the flack. Stressful day.
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On March 24 2010 11:57 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Good point Zona...
##Vote: Phrujbaz
L has a reason....The rest of you all need to up your posting game. With some content.
Okay...I'm going to say this again. We don't need an exact definite decision against nukes. I think our biggest worry will be people about to be lynched firing off their nukes anyway. That's the kind of stunt I would pull. I think that retaliation for nukes should be done on a situational basis. Two nukes is kind of much given that we don't know how much it will increase the ToD. That's my only problem with it. A combination of lynch/nuke is my thought, with some respect for the individual situation. I'm sure random nuking will be enough to piss off a majority of the town.
Also, we need to focus on a good lynch target. Be aware that we aren't near a lynch. Even though a few of us have been posting we need the whole towns participation. Not talking is bad for the town. Stuff like that will get you lynched and it's bad for use to not post. One liners don't help. Now please, start posting some content people.
Lots of people seem to be wanting to vote L. If he was some random person he would be a good candidate. But he is easily one of our best planners. Even if no lynch occurs today we will have some information gained from it because he will likely be a mafia target tonight, or even if someone else is, we should pay attention for those who push for L's lynch. Johnnyspazz hasn't posted much and voted for L originally. Abenson hasn't either and he voted for L. Nikon hasn't really posted either.
I propose Phrujbaz along with Zona. (Should he actually be modkilled right now? Has he confirmed to ace, or in the thread? Game's been up for 24 hours right?)
The paragraph beginning with also. First letter of each sentence in that paragraph.
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On March 25 2010 19:03 Bill Murray wrote:
Irrelevant as soon as he launched that nuke.
I don't know. I feel that I probably would of done the same. Not sure if Abenson would of done the same too, as we haven't really talked of nuking policy but he seemed content about the threat of nuking as a deterrent to lynch...although I pretty much just guaranteed we don't get lynched but get mafia killed. Lol...Although I don't really know how useful it would be to kill us. Ain't like we are DT's...
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