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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote: This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had | ||
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Zona
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Forgot to say so earlier: Thanks to Ace for hosting the game, and flamewheel91 for wrapping up the end. | ||
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Elemenope
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had A lot of people helped out a lot and it was mainly due to the discussion of the 'What do we do with people who launch nukes?' I hope in the future, people realize that when town makes an idea such as "we auto-lynch unsupported nukes", that some people are going to vote for that; especially when it's in mafia's favor. Look at the lynches: RoL, Xelin, Nikon, [no lynch]; RoL was Day 1 lynch so that can possibly be excused, but then he launched a nuke which sent him to 15 votes IIRC. Xelin - the nuke on me and the nuke on Zona especially. Nikon - asked for a nuke to hit him and then reflected it back. Tree.hugger, BM, and nemy are also victims of this, though nemy's a bit of an exception. If all town aligned people followed the plan of no unsupported nukes from the very start, a lot of this would've been avoided and Caller was going to be a sure lynch on Day 2 most likely. Especially with Fishball tracking him. These random nukes by town only helped us in giving a higher priority lynch target and you guys simply did our work for us pretty much. The point of town isn't to figure out who mafia is on your own and then act on it, saying "I've got a feeling." If you think someone is mafia, come up with arguments to show so, because if you just act on your own and people who you *think* is mafia, you're going to look scummy and get via lynch or someone else who decides to take action. ToD was plenty enough to just use nukes as a day vigi hit, even with retaliation from scum members. Basically, shooting nukes without town permission basically meant free lynch. I'm sure a lot of people would've said that we should nuke Caller on Day 2 if all this stuff on Day 1 didn't happen, especially if Fishball came out with that tracker post. Edit: On April 11 2010 06:08 Zona wrote: Remember the mafia had only one kill per night. Nukes in their hands were one of the ways to counterbalance their lack of killing power. The game did end the way I predicted - once a portion of the town members died and the few anti-nukes exhausted, the mafia nukes would decide the game. The town had even fewer anti-nukes than I thought, though. Forgot to say so earlier: Thanks to Ace for hosting the game, and flamewheel91 for wrapping up the end. Luckily all the game's anti-nukes were used up Day 1 ^^ | ||
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Bill Murray
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Canada4732 Posts
On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
really though i dont think there's a better way to deal with rogue nukers. nuking them just leads to retaliation shots + ToD increase, ignoring them means that if they are anti-town they get to live. so we're stuck lynching non-consensus nukers. and you're absolutely right about how townies decided to pick their targets. Even from the get go where people wanted to lynch L, we were doing it wrong. | ||
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Elemenope
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote: Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " Best part about the last day was the fact that Shinbichan launched a nuke after the deadline and pretended his internet was blowing balls. And all the stuff that happened afterwards for about the next two pages. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote: Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " Well basically Opz was on the right track (finally) and Abenson would listen to him. Haster of course knew that he had to get mafia to win, so he was playing for the town that day. iaaan afk'd and didnt do anything, and citizen decided to be dramatic and vote for himself in a rage until he got his shit together and tried to defend himself. i think the town could have lynched caller, until they tried to switch to Elemenope at the last second and basically not enough people were there. | ||
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haster27
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![[image loading]](http://www.mapsofworld.com/images/world-countries-flags/south-korea-flag.gif) No? Fuck, it might easily have been, considering how almost all the Townies damaged the Town than me. Still, it was pretty fun playing Serial Killer in this game; this role is very hard to win with, but because one have so much power on his own disposal, it is very easy to sketch out strategies. Day 1, I tried to play myself as pro-town as debate about what should be anti-nuke policy raged on, posting sensible thoughts and pointing out flaws in other people's statements. I also first argued for two retaliatory nukes because I had no nuke defense at that point (I knew nukes were going to start flying sooner or later so I really tried hard to get anti-nuke earlier days in the game) and the town nuke supply would have gotten exhausted pretty quickly if they followed my proposal. Before everything went to hell I also had little spat with JeeJee and Caller about me spamming what not. (I suppose they were throwing random accusations hoping to get solid lynch candidate formed.) This would be our first encounter, and was harbinger of what would happen later on- both of these players will turn out to be my greatest nemesis. Now, about the voting thing. I saw opportunity to appear pro-town when unjust bandwagon for L was rapidly forming. I immedately started counter-bandwagon against Abenson, who I thought was better target as he was lurker, and other sensible players easily followed my lead. I did not expect that result of my action would lead to ~OpZ~/Abenson role-claim. Although I had firm logical grounds for targetting Abenson, I knew if someone criticized on me people's perception on me would slightly turn for the worse. Thus when JeeJee started bandwagon against RebirthOfLegend using exact same reasoning as mine, I jumped in. Damn you Mafia :p I am impartial about nuke RoL launched. I know it was horrible for the town, but because of his actions, combined with L's return, gave me chance to really argument my image. I think by end of day 1 I was one of the least suspected of anti-towns. First, let me explain why I sided with L. Besides him making pretty good sense- and he made a pretty good shield also because he seemed to be some fucking hate attractor- he proposed the plan that would have led to 3 deaths instead of 2 deaths. As I am Serial Killer and was not aware of how fucked up Town was yet, more kill sounded much better. My penchant for more deaths (but by hands of other players) was one of the reason I took such strong position against non-concensus nukers besides the fact they were incredibly stupid. Well, apparently everyone decided that I needed to be relearnt the meaning of "having too much of a good thing" and started throwing nukes everywhere. To be honest, at day 1 I was happy and kept pusing for the massacre of non-concensus nukers, but when same trend kept carrying onto the following days... boy I knew I had the trouble in my hands. I would write more about day 1, but seeing as how it consisted of imbeciles leaping up one after another and me consistently arguing against them, I am not even going to bother. At least it put me in pretty strong position perception-wise. At night 1, I stole from JeeJee since he was the one besides Bill Murray who explicitedly stated he had nukes (and didn't use it). Unknowingly by doing this I had my revenge on JeeJee for dragging me into what now was revealed to be Mafia bandwagon  Day 2, Xelin is being fucking idiot. Can I please stop talking about this day? Everytime I think about it something inside my heart dies. Okay, maybe there IS something sane to talk about, it namely being Meeple and Caller roleclaim. Personally, at that very moment I had Caller pegged down as Mafia. His story was so surreal and convenient that I don't understand how could anyone else not see it. But at that moment I wasn't playing that much pro-town yet, so I kept following my policy of lynching all non-concensus nukers anyway. As night 2 action, I chose to steal a nuke from Abenson who country-claimed United Kingdom, a nuclear power. Abenson was also confirmed Mason, which prevented my nuke-steal from "verifying" alignment of another player since I was always careful not to make any statement that suggested nuke-stealer might be third party; Mafia would descend down on me like flies if I did that. I entertained the possibility of killing Fishball for moment, but my intention was to hide my killing powers unless there were few players left, and I was confident Mafia would try to stop Fishball from using his abilities so I removed him from my night action calculations and never thought about him again. Day 3, I make my biggest mistake in the game, country-claiming as Portugal. Unlike any other players, I had problem with country-claiming because everyone knew Colombia was anti-town. I hoped to circumvent suspicion by taking some risks and claiming early before any others revealed their country, since it could be argued that Colombia would country-claim late because he would be fearful of country he decided to pretend as being represented by another player in the game. This much was good, but I did not want to take so much risk and claimed Portugal which was small country. At that time most countries were unclaimed, so I thought there were equal portions of small and big countries mixed in; as the day continued and it turned out most player had big countries, I knew I had trouble and hoped someone wouldn't notice it. Well, stupid Townies didn't but Mafia did. Seriously, in the game, the true enemy I had was not the Townies but Mafia. Okay, Nikon business. My willingness to lynch Nikon instead of Caller was what made ~OpZ~ suspect me, though my actions in day 4 reversed his opinion about me pretty quickly again. What ~OpZ~ did not know was that I was the Third Party, and me, not knowing there were two SK in the game, was confident of Nikon being Mafia. Then there was all that about Nikon claiming to be hit even though I did not use my kill power yet. So in my mind I had choice between bandwagoning Caller or Nikon. I lynched Nikon because I wanted to keep Caller alive. This was what Mafia didn't understand (and kept protecting Caller). There was too many "confirmed" Townies in the game- namely being Abenson, ~OpZ~, laaan, and I suppose JeeJee though I found him suspicious as fuck by that time. As SK, it would be in my interest to keep people more scummy than me alive so that Town lynches them, not me. This is exactly why night 3, out of two Mafia suspects I had, JeeJee and Caller, I chose to kill JeeJee. It turned out to be wise decision as Mafia was protecting Caller vigilantly, but my faulty country-claim came back to kick my ass as Mafia detected something wrong from me claiming Portugal and role-blocked me. If I had some guts and claimed Spain, outcome of this game may have been vastly differnet but oh well. Day 4, I expected this day to be simple affair where Town rallied to lynch Caller. However, to my disbelief Caller makes even more scummier claim, and fucking EVERYONE but me calls out on Caller's bullshit! God damn it, laaan. If you had a bit of a brain we could have formed a fucking majority too. I know without two Masons the Town was screwed, and with wrong lynch Town's idiocy would drag me down with them. This is where I fully devoted myself into playing pro-town, trying to point out all the flaws so-called Caller supporters were proposing. Before ~OpZ~ revealed his trap at the very last moment, I was planning to nuke either Caller, d3_crescentia, or JeeJee at the last moment though it would have brought massive suspicion onto me. Fortunately before I did that I saw ~OpZ~ change his votes and immediately saw what was happening. Rest is ~OpZ~ and me duking it out with my sworn nemesis, Mafia. By the end of the day I was `100% certain that Mafia was Caller, JeeJee, d3_crescentia, and LMNOP. I was pretty sure LMNOP was last Mafia when ~OpZ~ proposed compromise lynch on LMNOP. I actually waited for JeeJee to respond before supporting it. Too bad citizen and laaan were being too pig-headed and did not follow the idea. As the day was seemingly ending in no lynch, I sprang a trap to further confirm JeeJee's scumminess. As long as no one was voted out, I can prevent Mafia victory by exercising my night kill. I was pretty sure JeeJee will "conveniently" miss his fake nuke timing should he be scum. He did, and even if he really intended to extend the day, his sudden burst of idiocy made it pretty certain he was Mafia anyway. Easy night kill. During the night time I had entire Mafia and Townie list down, so I was optimistic about my prospects. I intended to play Mafia and Townie off. This is how it would have went should there be no nukes: Day 5 3 Mafia 1 SK 3 Townie remaining. Caller (Mafia lynched) KILL A TOWNIE. Day 6 2 Mafia 1 SK 1 Townie remaining. PERSUADE TOWNIE SINCE HE CANNOT WIN ANYMORE, HE SHOULD FORCE NO LYNCH AND AWARD WIN TO MORE DESERVING PLAYER (lol, survivor.) If Mafia exercises his night kill 1 Mafia 1 SK game over. If Mafia does not use his night kill to try to persuade Townie they should win, nuke the Townie and turn the remaining player into 1 Mafia 1 SK. Of course this plan depended on no other players using nukes, but I thought I could make adjustments as the new nukes cropped up. What I did not know was that Town no longer had any anti-nukes, and unlike dillusional-paranoid Townies, Mafia prudently saved their nukes for the late game. They won and I congratulate them for victory though honestly the Town wasn't that much of a hard competition for them  I wish I had a gut and claimed Spain- I think I would definitely have had more fun trying to figure out last two Mafia (d3_crescentia and LMNOP) with JeeJee dead and day 4 completely different. Still, well played.This is the list of PM's I got from the game in chronological order: Ace WaW Role! + Show Spoiler + Yea if you have anti-nukes you can use those as much as possible if you please. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Oh okay. Also, I know the player is restricted to launching one nuke per day, but does this reaction apply to anti-missile defenses also? (as in, can I use my anti-missile defense more than one time per day?) ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I dont understand your question o.0? you dont get to pick what you steal, you just tell me the player. If they have nukes, you take 1. If they dont but have anti-nukes, you take one of those instead. If they have neither you get nothing ^_^ I randomized all the roles so I left everyone with whatever they got. SK is fun but tough so thats why I gave you the option to steal nukes. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Is it possible for me to state that I want to steal anti-missile defense, and then get nuke if the targetted player has 0 defense? (A/N: I really wanted that anti-nuke )Geez, what a heavy-handed role to give to a beginner ----------------------------------------- Original Message <Ace>: You are The Colombian Slumlord! (anti-town, Serial Killer/Theif) You start with 0 nukes! Special Abilities: You only make coffee and export lots of drugs. Still, you don't like the fact that everyone else is getting crazy with their shit. At night, you may choose to kill any player of your choice. You are also immune to night kills and show up Innocent to Detective checks! You can still be nuked or lynched during the day. Since you don't have any nukes of your own, you must steal them. If you want to forego your night kill, you can target a player and steal up to 1 nuke from them if they have any. If they don't have any nukes, but have missile-defense weapons installed you will take those instead and leave behind lots of coffee beans and cocaine. The other players will be notified of their losses but not of who took them. Remember doing this means you cant kill at night. You win when you are the only one left alive in the town. Ace WaW interception question + Show Spoiler + sometime in between. I just will try not to make it obvious when it was launched. (A/N: To my memory I sent this message while RoL nuke was heading toward Caller. I think I was just being impatient, having to wait for night to arrive b/c this nuke. No way I had any idea how longer the day 1 was going to be rofl) ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: One question: If the nuke is intercepted, is that fact publicly revealed at that very moment or the 24 hrs after the intercepted nuke had been launched? Ace WaW + Show Spoiler + o.0 ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Thanks, though I am assuming ~OpZ~ is not supposed to be at the Bill Murray list ;p ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I edited it ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: Could you edit the voting list you just updated? JeeJee has pointed out some flaw in them. Ace WaW question + Show Spoiler + If you get hit during the night you'll be notified you got shot ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: If I get NK hit during the night, will I be notified of this fact? What will be the message that I will receive? Ace WaW communication? + Show Spoiler + Oh. Just saw it- searched the browser for "PM" and assumed there was no mention about it seeing as how it returned no results -_-;;; Thank you. (A/N: I sent this right after we started to bandwagon RoL. You might remember my comment "I wish PM's were allowed in this game" or something. This is because I wanted to send everyone PM tellling to vote RoL. No lynch sucks because as SK moar death is better.) ----------------------------------------- Original Message: just read the rules ^_^ ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: Is PM allowed in this game or not? Ace WaW stealing question + Show Spoiler + you'll still get to steal ^_^ ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: In nighttime I choose to steal from Player A. At the same time, Mafia decides to NK Player A. Will the steal be successful, or fail because Mafia has already killed player A before I had chance to steal from him? Ace Is L's plan legit? + Show Spoiler + signal? I thought you were talking about the self nuke. I skipped that part of his post ----------------------------------------- By this, I mean his comment about Starcraft "signal" but I can't gauge if he is serious or not. ----------------------------------------- no, I'll address this in the thread ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: Just had to ask (facepalm). (A/N:Where I am trolled by L's "let's play Starcraft and lose when you are Townie!" post. It was sent before L went over his rage and started posting sensical posts.) Ace question + Show Spoiler + yes ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: Will person I am thieving against be notified even if I fail? Ace request + Show Spoiler + not for this game. I might consider next game. Part of this is because the players should be telling each other what they are capable of doing. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Can you make it so that when player having special role is killed, player can quickly discern its ability by posting the role information you included on PM at OP? Ace no Abenson replacement yet? + Show Spoiler + lol nah Abenson hasn't been replaced. I haven't mod killed him yet as its the weekend and lots of ppl arent active ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: We need some decent pro-town player here Jesus Christ who can literally round out all these slimy scums infesting the town. but not enough to find me out  flamewheel91 About Mafia WaW + Show Spoiler + Haha hosts can take a lot. When I hosted Mafia XX, I think I got about 300 pms alone asking about the bus driver role... Yeah, let the town kill people ^^ ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Actually I am bombarding Ace with so many questions now I bet he is quite sick of me right now. Either way, I'll just let the town do its job until night 2; what is the worst thing that could happen? :p ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Haha, maybe. Explicit wording at this point would be really important (see: Johnnyspazz xD) but a night kill would either lead to "serial killer???" or "who the fuck used his vigi shot???" in most cases. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: ^^ I am actually trying to nab myself an anti-nuke for day 2, b/c with all this nuke flying I feel I don't want some idiot to be crowned as epic hero after nuking me for no reason. Might change my opinion though, after I ask Ace if the person I stole from receives what kind of PM; "nuke is stolen" versus "nuke is stolen by SERIAL KILLER OMG". If second case, it might be better NK'ing someone just to keep the presence of SK in doubt. I wonder if there is no Mafia at L list at all actually. That would make an epic hilarious material ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Yeah, I saw that shift and it made me happy. Initially people are like "no nukes" trying to take the high road... and then things degenerate from there ^.^ I mean, the longer the day goes the better for you the better it is. During night, are you going to NK? Due to this being a completely closed setup, there's no way of knowing for sure if there's a serial killer or not. And yeah, wait for postgame. Shit's going to be so hilarious. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Thanks. Initially started rooting for L due to "let's nuke to get 3 kills day 1" policy, and I had somehow moved onto strong pro-town position due to all those random Townies coming out to fire nukes everywhere O.O Now if I can help in nabbing some Mafia day 2, I should be set for rest of the upcoming days. Only problem is getting shot by scum who will then start to connect the dots but... meh, we are heading toward endless day after all lol. I really wish I knew who are Mafias so I can laugh at the Townies more. ----------------------------------------- Original Message<flamewheel91>: I just want to say that I'm very impressed by the way you're playing, especially given the role you have. Keep it up ^^ Ace WaW Role! + Show Spoiler + cocaine and coffee was in his PM. I still dont see why you are being so paranoid but ok. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Is this the exact lettering you PM'd Jeejee? Because I can't see how he figured out coffee and Colombia from there :/ I need to know how much information is given away by stealing so I can make most beneficial decision. (A/N: I am still curious. Did JeeJee really guess Colombia from the two clues he was given? Because he talked as if he was certain of his guess, which made my country-claim lot harder.) ----------------------------------------- Original Message: "one of your nukes/anti nukes have been stolen and some cocaine was left in place" ----------------------------------------- Original Message: What kind of PM will person I stole from receive? (as in, "nuke is stolen" versus "nuke is stolen by SERIAL KILLER OMG") ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Ace>: You are The Colombian Slumlord! (anti-town, Serial Killer/Theif) You start with 0 nukes! Special Abilities: You only make coffee and export lots of drugs. Still, you don't like the fact that everyone else is getting crazy with their shit. At night, you may choose to kill any player of your choice. You are also immune to night kills and show up Innocent to Detective checks! You can still be nuked or lynched during the day. Since you don't have any nukes of your own, you must steal them. If you want to forego your night kill, you can target a player and steal up to 1 nuke from them if they have any. If they don't have any nukes, but have missile-defense weapons installed you will take those instead and leave behind lots of coffee beans and cocaine. The other players will be notified of their losses but not of who took them. Remember doing this means you cant kill at night. You win when you are the only one left alive in the town. Ace Never-ending WaW questions + Show Spoiler + 1.) False, it will show up as intercepted by Columbia (I wont reveal your full name because that'd be crazy ^_^) 2.) False, only player A. B gets to keep his. Also True at the second part, no one will know player B fired anything. 3.) Well I didn't give anyone false claims this game. You'll have to guess although I don't see how claiming Columbia is an issue. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: 1.If I intercept the nuke, the nuke post will be written as "the nuke was intercepted by anti-nuke from Columbian Slumlord!" (True/False) 2.In case player B fires anti-nuke after player A fires anti-nuke at the same missile: Both player A and B loses an anti-nuke (True/False) The nuke post will only be written as "the nuke was intercepted by (country of player A)."; involvement of player B will not be mentioned. (True/False) 3. Can you give me one country that was not used in this game? If people ask me what my country is, I don't think I can say either Columbia or Columbian Slumlord ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Ace>: You are The Colombian Slumlord! (anti-town, Serial Killer/Theif) You start with 0 nukes! Special Abilities: You only make coffee and export lots of drugs. Still, you don't like the fact that everyone else is getting crazy with their shit. At night, you may choose to kill any player of your choice. You are also immune to night kills and show up Innocent to Detective checks! You can still be nuked or lynched during the day. Since you don't have any nukes of your own, you must steal them. If you want to forego your night kill, you can target a player and steal up to 1 nuke from them if they have any. If they don't have any nukes, but have missile-defense weapons installed you will take those instead and leave behind lots of coffee beans and cocaine. The other players will be notified of their losses but not of who took them. Remember doing this means you cant kill at night. You win when you are the only one left alive in the town. haster27 WaW night action + Show Spoiler + I wish to steal from JeeJee. Ace WaW night action! + Show Spoiler + oops ^_^ ----------------------------------------- Original Message: grammar (runs away)----------------------------------------- Original Message<Ace>: You're efforts are successful! Your drug lords recover a nuclear warhead from JeeJee! Ace WaW + Show Spoiler + <Ace>pretty much (A/N: I hate you.) ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: Okay, confirming this for the last time before I make my move. You will NOT tell me any countries not present in the game. RIght? ----------------------------------------- <Me> you evil evil man. show some mercy to the beleaguered Serial Killer, will you? This role probably have like win rate of 1%. ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Ace>: naw you'll just have to figure this one out on your own ^_^ ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: now can you tell me one country that is not being represented by any of the players? T.T I don't feel like claiming myself as Colombia if there arises a situation I have to country-claim. flamewheel91 Hehe the game goes on~ + Show Spoiler + Lol^^ Trackers are always like suicidal cops... ----------------------------------------- Original Message: okay France is going to wish they stuck to cooking upcoming night. (If it stacks with Mafia, heck, a good thing since it denies information) ----------------------------------------- Original Message: That's true, better a sure shot than nothing... Just don't go firing it indiscriminately now. Yeah they're like "where is haster???" Might wanna get on that, townie. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Well, I expected it in this case because Jeejee did suggest he had nuke, and ofc he didn't end up using it. I wanted to steal something rather than chance it, because it does cost NK after all ^^. Currently busy trying to mount a defense on that other game so I don't get killed rofl. ----------------------------------------- Original Message<flamewheel91>: Damn, and here you were hoping for an antinuke T_T So I'm guessing you got it worked out with Ace so that a targeted victim doesn't know if the SK took it or not. Interesting. haster27 WaW night 2 action + Show Spoiler + Murder Fishball. Tell 'im that France should have stayed quiet cooking. Ace WaW night 2 action revision + Show Spoiler + ok ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: Actually, just try to steal nuke from Abenson. Ace WaW night 2 + Show Spoiler + You tried to steal nukes from Abenson but failed! (A/N: On retrospect this didn't suck too much because it revealed they had nuke-switching ability and made them 100% confirmed Mason in my mind) flamewheel91 WaW + Show Spoiler + True. But Spain is well-known country, so I expect good chance one remaining players represent it. O.O Either way, maybe it IS time for me to take out my kill stick. Only 11 player going to be left next game after all... my dream of nabbing anti-nuke hardly seems likely now. And if Town fail lynches again, then I definitely need to make Mafia kill. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: ^^I hate inactivity. But there's no really adequate way of dealing with it... this is why Mafia get such an advantage early game with all the lazy people. Well, actually the Portugal never really had the navy... they receded in power once Spain and France and Britain started colonizing, but Spain is the one with the navy. 1588? Spanish Armada?^^ ----------------------------------------- Original Message: but killing Mafia confirms there are SK though, especially with Vigilante that is going to pop up if roleclaim works. Also, lol Nikon. I love how Mafia (or imbecile Townie) are starting to pop out of woodworks. As for the Portugal, that country had fairly strong navy before Great Britain took over, right? ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Not saying anything about that, but it's a funny country. ^^Doesn't matter who you kill right? As long as you're alive at the end... ----------------------------------------- Original Message: OH NOES Did I just screw myself by picking the country other player had? lol. (A/N: Yes, you did.) Actually I am feeling impulse to break away from tradition and kill ~OpZ~ because I felt suspicious about them being Mafia long time ago. I could be of course drastically wrong, but... ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Hehe, yeah. So much bullshittery going on. And why Portugal :O ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: I love how ~OpZ~ and Abenson are so blatantly trying to call fowl on my night action, even though he didn't have any nukes (or anti-nukes which I wanted!) to be taken (A/N: I still don't get it. Was it some kind of piss-poor attempt to draw out nuke-stealer?) Ace WaW + Show Spoiler + you cant trash nukes ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: Entertaining possibilities here- is it possible for me to trash (remove) my nuke without being detected? (A/N: I was worrying about ~OpZ~ pointing me out to launch a fake nuke here. At day 1 I made a post asking if I should fake nuke because I wanted to get real-nuke strike disguised as "fake nuke" later on the game. Instead, it became hindrance and I couldn't suggest I had nukes because I was afraid someone would point out that post. Until day 4 I would avoid being at keyboard the time deadline drew near when there was no one present to launch a fake nuke.) flamewheel91 lol + Show Spoiler + Haha, yeah. Though at this point I think people are afraid to use real nukes... ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I should follow it, though number of "confirmed/likely Townies" are starting to grow too much for my liking. Hell, if the Town lynches correctly, I might just stick to my habits and steal another nuke. ----------------------------------------- Original Message<flamewheel91>: Hmmm the town might be relying on you tonight^^ (A/N: But no way am I listening to your words, ~OpZ~) haster27 WaW night kill + Show Spoiler + Fuck it. Let's send everything to shitstorm. ##Kill JeeJee haster27 WaW night action + Show Spoiler + You know what? ##No action haster27 clarification + Show Spoiler + I am going to think about NK a bit, so I'll probably send in new command within next hours. Ace WaW night action + Show Spoiler + ok ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: ##Kill JeeJee Whatever. Either this move will make me or break me. (A/N: After all that deliberation...) Ace WaW + Show Spoiler + You've been roleblocked for Night 3! (A/N: Ace must have been rofling as I kept changing my night action deliberating whether I should reveal the existance of another KP or not.) L Hi :3 + Show Spoiler + hahahaha you know. Good, then I can be honest. Don't change the fact that they are beginning to annoy me because Mafia became too strong unlike I expected. Maybe I shouldn't have pre-occupied myself trying to get anti-nuke. Urrg, that roleblock really put me in bad position for sure. I'll try to work it out. Hopefully. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I already know your role and win condition, so there's no 'we'. (A/N: =_=) That said, your last paragraph was very good in trying to hide who you are. Mafia seem to be on your case, though, which is bad news. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Thank you very much ^^ I am really annoyed because if we didn't suffer through lineup of idiocy - from random nukes right into disaster that is Xelin - we would be in so much better condition. (sigh) ----------------------------------------- Original Message<L>: That last post of yours was very well done. L wait + Show Spoiler + True. That's why I found Abenson's fake nuke particularly intelligent. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: He wasn't really trolling. He set up a rather solid trap. He'd have lost the game for town right there if mafia didn't have so many people afk, though. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Thank god he was trolling. I was getting Town 'Last Stand' strategy planned out (where ~OpZ~, Abenson, and any nuke-wielding Townies would strategically bomb Mafia suspects I POINT OUT to decimate Mafia anti-nuke ability, prevent Mafia victory, and possibly place Town in advantageous position) too. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: well, that's if you hit some townies :3 ----------------------------------------- Original Message: My only hope is that Mafia win condition entails SK's death. Then even if ~OpZ~ fucks up (I'll find out citizen's alignment depending on how much steam his amazing argument gathers), I can hopefully use my NK + nuke to bring situation back to 2 Mafia 1 SK 2 Townie. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I hope Ace releases a role list after the game so that everyone can see how intensely bad certain players are. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: I almost want to convince myself into believing Abenson and ~Opz~ are REALLY REALLY intelligent Mafia, but I know that's not possible because false-claiming Canada and Great Britain so early in the game are suicidal + nuke switching (GB nuclear power). Of course Ace could have put those two countries as red and given all Mafia nuke-exchange abilities just for lols (in which case you would be lolling at me too), but seriously I have more faith in Ace than ~OpZ~. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Good lord Opz is a complete idiot. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: damn, maybe I should have gotten myself nuked earlier in the day too. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: well, yeah. makes for more hilarious spectating. ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: does that mean you know the identity of every player in that game? O.O Ace Clarification needed + Show Spoiler + any time within that time frame, I just try not to make it obvious when the anti-nuke was fired (A/N: My plan to shut up LMNOP using this line of inquiry failed. Thankfully he didn't clarify this fact in the thread though I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to believe ~OpZ~ was anti-town even if he did.) ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: In case nuke is fired, even if its intercepted within 24 hours, the day will end 24 hours after the nuke was fired. Right? Please clarify this point in the WaW thread. flamewheel91 hahahahaha + Show Spoiler + Thanks, got it edited. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: you have two Callers ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Oh yes, but I get to post EVEN MORE macro images. And I get to my font! Good luck to you now sir! ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: Now you actually have to WORK to let this chaos you love continue. flamewheel91 With love + Show Spoiler + Lol no u. From what I take, there's been no lynch (haven't gotten to thread yet...) Good luck tonight ----------------------------------------- Original Message: NO U ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Unfortunately, I can't update the OP... >.> It's Ace's. ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: Will you please update the OP so it displays night 1, day 2, night 2, and day 3 post? You might also choose to challenge yourself and add all the nuke posts as well ^^ flamewheel91 WaW + Show Spoiler + I like that quote. ----------------------------------------- Original Message<Me>: "But I think the one thing that I can say about us is that we're very consistent about certain things and part of that is our desire to do the very best work that we can and not rest on our laurels, or not allow formula to come into what we do." Michael stipe (A/N: I take solace in stopping your perfect victory, scum.) ##Kill JeeJee Also, let's vote for fun! Poll: Who is Town LVP? (Vote): ~OpZ~/Abenson pair (Vote): iNfuNdiBuLuM/citizen (Vote): laaan (Vote): RebirthofLegend (Vote): johnnyspazz (Vote): Phrujbaz/Bill Murray (Vote): tree.hugger (Vote): Amber[LighT] (Vote): meeple (Vote): Xelin (Vote): Versatile (Vote): nemY | ||
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johnnyspazz
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Elemenope
Burkina Faso1704 Posts
On April 11 2010 07:40 johnnyspazz wrote: should've saved me for the nukes and antinukes More like RoL should've launched his revenge nuke at Caller. I seriously have to question this move. | ||
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Infundibulum
United States2552 Posts
On April 11 2010 07:40 johnnyspazz wrote: should've saved me for the nukes and antinukes i thought you could have saved yourself? why didn't you? | ||
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
On April 11 2010 07:48 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote: i thought you could have saved yourself? why didn't you? No, he can't use anything until day 2. You can read it from the USA description. | ||
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Infundibulum
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On April 11 2010 07:43 Elemenope wrote: More like RoL should've launched his revenge nuke at Caller. I seriously have to question this move. He wasn't allowed to launch it at caller actually. From what RoL told me about the vengence nuke was you could only nuke someone who voted for you, and apparently caller didn't vote for him. | ||
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Bill Murray
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Bill Murray
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haster27
Taiwan809 Posts
On April 11 2010 08:37 Bill Murray wrote: i'd like to know why i'm even on the LVP list. I used my anti-nuke to save a medic from an idiot townie I actually liked to put entire player list to make it fair, but 12 was maximum. That is the list after I excluded Mafia, third party, and what I believe L and Fishball. | ||
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