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On April 11 2010 12:25 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 12:14 Elemenope wrote:On April 11 2010 12:01 JeeJee wrote:also epic quotes (filler text usually cut out) **initial plans** + Show Spoiler +[22 Mar 10 22:25] * ace * all im saying is [22 Mar 10 22:25] * ace * look at the power of your roles [22 Mar 10 22:26] * elemenope * what, we have nukes [22 Mar 10 22:26] * elemenope * that's all we need [22 Mar 10 22:26] * ace * and how hard it is for you to just straight out get raped by nukes [22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * ace i think ur problem is [22 Mar 10 22:26] * caller * wtf i wanna nuke L [22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * u think we're good at mafia [22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * but we just wanna nuke shit [22 Mar 10 22:26] * caller * i agree [22 Mar 10 22:26] * ace * I know  **discussing night kills and random roletalk -- night 1** oh and meeple snipe reasoning is in here. at least my take on it, lmnop had a different reason iirc + Show Spoiler +[14:32] elemenope: anyway, what I'm thinking of is prot-me, kill-meeple, rb-whoever [14:32] shinbi: no [14:32] shinbi: we have a problem [14:32] elemenope: what [14:32] shinbi: or rather [14:32] shinbi: an issue worth discussing [14:32] shinbi: i talked to ace-- it matters WHO sends in the kill [14:32] shinbi: becaus that person is doing hte killing [14:33] shinbi: this leads me to believe there is like a triggerhappy or a tracker role in the game [14:33] elemenope: so we'll have caller do it [14:33] elemenope: easy pz [14:33] shinbi: tbh i think meeple is DT, but if he's not [14:33] shinbi: why not have you do it? [14:33] shinbi: if you hit a triggerhappy, you have medic prot [14:33] elemenope: wouldn't that bypass medic prot? [14:34] shinbi: i dunno [14:34] shinbi: i don think it should [14:34] shinbi: otoh if it uses up a medic prot and like SK hits u then u'll still die [14:34] shinbi: so maybe we're just better off using caller [14:34] elemenope: yeah [14:34] elemenope: we'll just have caller do it [14:35] shinbi: ok [14:35] shinbi: btw the reason i think meeple is dt is cos [14:35] shinbi: before L died he had like 35 posts [14:35] shinbi: after L died he had like 2 [14:35] shinbi: maybe he's thinking " o shit no more medix for me" [14:35] shinbi:  [14:35] elemenope: yeah **during discussing of the insane-dt-bussed-onto-dead-guy plans** + Show Spoiler +
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * i should totally claim tracker
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * and claim i tracked fishball
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * and saw him hit meeple
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * SO MAFIA HAS A ROLEBLOCKER AND A BUS?
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * lmao
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * i find that hard to believe
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * that's fucking imba as fuck
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * elemenope * FUCK WHAT YOU FIND HARD TO BELIEVE
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * elemenope * THIS IS WORLD AT WAR
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * somehow
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * I see this ending very badly
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * so what did i do
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * go claim you got bussed
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * from nikon
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * to meeple
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * as a dt
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * yes
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * elemenope * Yes
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * and on top of that im paranoid/insane
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * as a, you've found out, insane dt
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * lol ok
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * this seems highly implausible
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * and is going to get me killed
[31 Mar 10 21:57] * d3_crescentia * yes.
[31 Mar 10 21:57] * caller * but i like it
[31 Mar 10 21:58] * shinbi * for the record, i think the bus claim is fucking stupid as fuck-all. and is going to get caller killed
after the bus claim worked, it all kind of generated into random lulz and shit so i don't really have much to post aside from elemenope making fun of my bottles oh and one final excerpt for flamewheel commenting on elemenope's wall of text posts.. this was our take + Show Spoiler +
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * you realize i hope
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * nobody reads them
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * even i didn't
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * yeah I know
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * but when somebody says something
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * I'm just like
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * hey douche bag
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * I addressed this here
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * fucking read next time
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * LOL
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * ace * lmao
again thanks for the game ace, was lulz ^^. based on M.A.D. from MS i guess? edit @haster oh right. cuz i knew my nuke didn't go through, i was just screwing with the town during pages 115-116. i forgot that kind of revealed that i'm mafia and should've requested prot.. oh well If the bus claim wasn't thrown in, admit it: we would've lost. Just admit it right here 6 bottle shinbichan. stfu no it was only 2 bottles also after this game i have no idea how to do post analysis for mafia anymore at least for the first 2 days i was just posting whatever pro-town shit i would post normally just a bit more active cos i had a role. it doesnt really affect mafia unless a mafia's a target of popular opinion which given the odds they probably aren't. so i have no friggin' clue how people like mbh are so damn good at it.
He gets leaked lists of all the roles, for starters.
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On April 11 2010 13:37 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote:On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote:On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote:
I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off.
Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed:
1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game.
2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough.
3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue.
4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers.
5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch.
This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " -_- Seriously...Don't remind me. You seen my pm's.... -_____________- JeeJee was the only one I wasn't sure about, but at the end....When he put his vote....I couldn't stand it. Seriously me jumping on citizen....Just handed it....and fucking no body would vote. Props to Abenson. Thanks Ace...God life blows. and flamewheel
I love you ~OpZ~.
No worries about the town.
Always next time.
You gotta skate.
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On April 11 2010 13:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 06:36 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote:On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote:On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote:
I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off.
Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed:
1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game.
2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough.
3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue.
4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers.
5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch.
This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " Well basically Opz was on the right track (finally) and Abenson would listen to him. Haster of course knew that he had to get mafia to win, so he was playing for the town that day. iaaan afk'd and didnt do anything, and citizen decided to be dramatic and vote for himself in a rage until he got his shit together and tried to defend himself. i think the town could have lynched caller, until they tried to switch to Elemenope at the last second and basically not enough people were there. No....Iaaan afk'd our way to loss...Even switching to LMNOP we coulda won if Iaaan was on and trusting me -_-
tbh, there was no way you would have lynched any mafia that day. if lmnop/caller were actually in danger of getting lynched, we were gonna have d3 play the "lol im too busy but lets make it fun ##nuke:opz" card, drawing out an anti-nuke if there is one, and have caller/lmnop throw down real nukes after cuz we needed 2 to land for victory.
i guess if we had done that during day4 we would've had that flawless which i oh so wanted, but decided to go with nolynch and do the nuke plan after as then we would only need 1 of the nukes to hit, so less risk in that sense. of course i ended up dying so both would've had to land anyway.... oh well
come to think of it, did u guys even consider this when launching the nukes? were u so certain both were gonna land due to some new info or were you under the impression that we still needed only one? i was sleeping so i wasn't part of the decision making process there
i mean i think flamewheel wasnt aware as he said it's gonna be gg as soon as one of the nukes lands which wasn't true actually, needed both. but yeah, fill me in?
durr nvm im stupid
ignore the above
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FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
On April 11 2010 14:04 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 13:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 11 2010 06:36 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote:On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote:On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote:
I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off.
Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed:
1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game.
2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough.
3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue.
4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers.
5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch.
This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " Well basically Opz was on the right track (finally) and Abenson would listen to him. Haster of course knew that he had to get mafia to win, so he was playing for the town that day. iaaan afk'd and didnt do anything, and citizen decided to be dramatic and vote for himself in a rage until he got his shit together and tried to defend himself. i think the town could have lynched caller, until they tried to switch to Elemenope at the last second and basically not enough people were there. No....Iaaan afk'd our way to loss...Even switching to LMNOP we coulda won if Iaaan was on and trusting me -_- tbh, there was no way you would have lynched any mafia that day. if lmnop/caller were actually in danger of getting lynched, we were gonna have d3 play the "lol im too busy but lets make it fun ##nuke:opz" card, drawing out an anti-nuke if there is one, and have caller/lmnop throw down real nukes after cuz we needed 2 to land for victory. i guess if we had done that during day4 we would've had that flawless which i oh so wanted, but decided to go with nolynch and do the nuke plan after as then we would only need 1 of the nukes to hit, so less risk in that sense. of course i ended up dying so both would've had to land anyway.... oh well come to think of it, did u guys even consider this when launching the nukes? were u so certain both were gonna land due to some new info or were you under the impression that we still needed only one? i was sleeping so i wasn't part of the decision making process there i mean i think flamewheel wasnt aware as he said it's gonna be gg as soon as one of the nukes lands which wasn't true actually, needed both. but yeah, fill me in?
Wait what?
It was 4-3 at that point.
One nuke killing Abenson would have made it 3-3. Mafia...
Oh.
Wait.
Hmm did I fail? For some reason I was like LOL 3-3 MAFIA CONTROLS >=50%.
Meh and then it was like fawoosh nuke at Haster27!
.-.
I'm confused as to your ninja edit >.>
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no
cuz they knew there was sk
so there were only 3 townies
yes. makes sense
actually coulda been vigi
whatev
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On March 25 2010 08:43 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
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You and Caller both look kind of shitty to me right now, one reason I was sticking with L had to do with that. Neither of you posted anything that constructive and since there is no PMing allowed in this game I will have to assume that Caller is really not doing anything, as opposed to his usual PM circles.
On March 25 2010 08:54 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
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##Nuke:Caller
Viva La Revolucion~
omm jus sayin yo~
Insane game though.
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My thoughts (for the limited amount I truly played in this game)
Caller and LMNOP both looked scummy as hell to me (obviously this is easy to say after the game's over)
JeeJee played fucking awesome
The town is its own worst enemy when given the power(s) to instantly kill each other off.
I sucked this game obviously, sorry about that :/
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Philadelphia, PA10406 Posts
I have to say that was a fun game to play, and a fun game to watch.
- Haster's role was pretty awkward, but I have to give him a ton of credit, he tried quite hard. When Ace pm'd me the role list though, I had to laugh. I would not have enjoyed figuring out a strategy for that.
- JeeJee played amazing. Absolutely amazing.
Relevant posts to Ace:
Original Message:
I was decently correct, but mostly off. Gotta love JeeJee though, his posting was amazing.
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Original Message:
JeeJee is one cool customer. I want him on my team, always.
I suspected LMNOP at the end, and I pointed out the obvious on d3. Caller looked like mafia of course, but I wrongly suggested he was innocent in my dying post. I never once suspected JeeJee.
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On April 11 2010 14:04 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 13:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 11 2010 06:36 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote:On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote:On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote:
I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off.
Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed:
1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game.
2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough.
3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue.
4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers.
5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch.
This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " Well basically Opz was on the right track (finally) and Abenson would listen to him. Haster of course knew that he had to get mafia to win, so he was playing for the town that day. iaaan afk'd and didnt do anything, and citizen decided to be dramatic and vote for himself in a rage until he got his shit together and tried to defend himself. i think the town could have lynched caller, until they tried to switch to Elemenope at the last second and basically not enough people were there. No....Iaaan afk'd our way to loss...Even switching to LMNOP we coulda won if Iaaan was on and trusting me -_- tbh, there was no way you would have lynched any mafia that day. if lmnop/caller were actually in danger of getting lynched, we were gonna have d3 play the "lol im too busy but lets make it fun ##nuke:opz" card, drawing out an anti-nuke if there is one, and have caller/lmnop throw down real nukes after cuz we needed 2 to land for victory. i guess if we had done that during day4 we would've had that flawless which i oh so wanted, but decided to go with nolynch and do the nuke plan after as then we would only need 1 of the nukes to hit, so less risk in that sense. of course i ended up dying so both would've had to land anyway.... oh well come to think of it, did u guys even consider this when launching the nukes? were u so certain both were gonna land due to some new info or were you under the impression that we still needed only one? i was sleeping so i wasn't part of the decision making process there i mean i think flamewheel wasnt aware as he said it's gonna be gg as soon as one of the nukes lands which wasn't true actually, needed both. but yeah, fill me in? durr nvm im stupid ignore the above
I had asked Flamewheel what his definition of majority was, and he said if we had 3-3, then we would win. I had waited until Caller was online before sending in our night actions anyway to ensure that we had 2-3 regardless. And since no anti-nukes were used previously, I was sure both were going to hit unless some townie decided that saving nemy would be an awful idea.
aka
You're dumb, 6 bottle more on Tiny fgt.
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On April 11 2010 15:38 Elemenope wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 14:04 JeeJee wrote:On April 11 2010 13:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 11 2010 06:36 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote:On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote:On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote:
I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off.
Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed:
1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game.
2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough.
3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue.
4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers.
5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch.
This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " Well basically Opz was on the right track (finally) and Abenson would listen to him. Haster of course knew that he had to get mafia to win, so he was playing for the town that day. iaaan afk'd and didnt do anything, and citizen decided to be dramatic and vote for himself in a rage until he got his shit together and tried to defend himself. i think the town could have lynched caller, until they tried to switch to Elemenope at the last second and basically not enough people were there. No....Iaaan afk'd our way to loss...Even switching to LMNOP we coulda won if Iaaan was on and trusting me -_- tbh, there was no way you would have lynched any mafia that day. if lmnop/caller were actually in danger of getting lynched, we were gonna have d3 play the "lol im too busy but lets make it fun ##nuke:opz" card, drawing out an anti-nuke if there is one, and have caller/lmnop throw down real nukes after cuz we needed 2 to land for victory. i guess if we had done that during day4 we would've had that flawless which i oh so wanted, but decided to go with nolynch and do the nuke plan after as then we would only need 1 of the nukes to hit, so less risk in that sense. of course i ended up dying so both would've had to land anyway.... oh well come to think of it, did u guys even consider this when launching the nukes? were u so certain both were gonna land due to some new info or were you under the impression that we still needed only one? i was sleeping so i wasn't part of the decision making process there i mean i think flamewheel wasnt aware as he said it's gonna be gg as soon as one of the nukes lands which wasn't true actually, needed both. but yeah, fill me in? durr nvm im stupid ignore the above I had asked Flamewheel what his definition of majority was, and he said if we had 3-3, then we would win. I had waited until Caller was online before sending in our night actions anyway to ensure that we had 2-3 regardless. And since no anti-nukes were used previously, I was sure both were going to hit unless some townie decided that saving nemy would be an awful idea. aka You're dumb, 6 bottle more on Tiny fgt.
if you were so sure both were gonna hit why didnt u agree to do this on day4 u fagling
you just wanted me to die didn't you?
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On April 11 2010 13:58 L wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 12:25 JeeJee wrote:On April 11 2010 12:14 Elemenope wrote:On April 11 2010 12:01 JeeJee wrote:also epic quotes (filler text usually cut out) **initial plans** + Show Spoiler +[22 Mar 10 22:25] * ace * all im saying is [22 Mar 10 22:25] * ace * look at the power of your roles [22 Mar 10 22:26] * elemenope * what, we have nukes [22 Mar 10 22:26] * elemenope * that's all we need [22 Mar 10 22:26] * ace * and how hard it is for you to just straight out get raped by nukes [22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * ace i think ur problem is [22 Mar 10 22:26] * caller * wtf i wanna nuke L [22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * u think we're good at mafia [22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * but we just wanna nuke shit [22 Mar 10 22:26] * caller * i agree [22 Mar 10 22:26] * ace * I know **discussing night kills and random roletalk -- night 1** oh and meeple snipe reasoning is in here. at least my take on it, lmnop had a different reason iirc + Show Spoiler +[14:32] elemenope: anyway, what I'm thinking of is prot-me, kill-meeple, rb-whoever [14:32] shinbi: no [14:32] shinbi: we have a problem [14:32] elemenope: what [14:32] shinbi: or rather [14:32] shinbi: an issue worth discussing [14:32] shinbi: i talked to ace-- it matters WHO sends in the kill [14:32] shinbi: becaus that person is doing hte killing [14:33] shinbi: this leads me to believe there is like a triggerhappy or a tracker role in the game [14:33] elemenope: so we'll have caller do it [14:33] elemenope: easy pz [14:33] shinbi: tbh i think meeple is DT, but if he's not [14:33] shinbi: why not have you do it? [14:33] shinbi: if you hit a triggerhappy, you have medic prot [14:33] elemenope: wouldn't that bypass medic prot? [14:34] shinbi: i dunno [14:34] shinbi: i don think it should [14:34] shinbi: otoh if it uses up a medic prot and like SK hits u then u'll still die [14:34] shinbi: so maybe we're just better off using caller [14:34] elemenope: yeah [14:34] elemenope: we'll just have caller do it [14:35] shinbi: ok [14:35] shinbi: btw the reason i think meeple is dt is cos [14:35] shinbi: before L died he had like 35 posts [14:35] shinbi: after L died he had like 2 [14:35] shinbi: maybe he's thinking " o shit no more medix for me" [14:35] shinbi: [14:35] elemenope: yeah **during discussing of the insane-dt-bussed-onto-dead-guy plans** + Show Spoiler +
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * i should totally claim tracker
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * and claim i tracked fishball
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * and saw him hit meeple
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * SO MAFIA HAS A ROLEBLOCKER AND A BUS?
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * lmao
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * i find that hard to believe
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * that's fucking imba as fuck
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * elemenope * FUCK WHAT YOU FIND HARD TO BELIEVE
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * elemenope * THIS IS WORLD AT WAR
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * somehow
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * I see this ending very badly
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * so what did i do
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * go claim you got bussed
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * from nikon
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * to meeple
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * as a dt
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * yes
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * elemenope * Yes
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * and on top of that im paranoid/insane
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * as a, you've found out, insane dt
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * lol ok
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * this seems highly implausible
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * and is going to get me killed
[31 Mar 10 21:57] * d3_crescentia * yes.
[31 Mar 10 21:57] * caller * but i like it
[31 Mar 10 21:58] * shinbi * for the record, i think the bus claim is fucking stupid as fuck-all. and is going to get caller killed
after the bus claim worked, it all kind of generated into random lulz and shit so i don't really have much to post aside from elemenope making fun of my bottles oh and one final excerpt for flamewheel commenting on elemenope's wall of text posts.. this was our take + Show Spoiler +
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * you realize i hope
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * nobody reads them
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * even i didn't
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * yeah I know
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * but when somebody says something
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * I'm just like
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * hey douche bag
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * I addressed this here
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * fucking read next time
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * LOL
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * ace * lmao
again thanks for the game ace, was lulz ^^. based on M.A.D. from MS i guess? edit @haster oh right. cuz i knew my nuke didn't go through, i was just screwing with the town during pages 115-116. i forgot that kind of revealed that i'm mafia and should've requested prot.. oh well If the bus claim wasn't thrown in, admit it: we would've lost. Just admit it right here 6 bottle shinbichan. stfu no it was only 2 bottles also after this game i have no idea how to do post analysis for mafia anymore at least for the first 2 days i was just posting whatever pro-town shit i would post normally just a bit more active cos i had a role. it doesnt really affect mafia unless a mafia's a target of popular opinion which given the odds they probably aren't. so i have no friggin' clue how people like mbh are so damn good at it. He gets leaked lists of all the roles, for starters.
hmm? maybe you are referring to another game, maybe not, but the one i remember, i afk'd out like the townie everyone hates, and instead decided to spectate, knowing who the mafia were, so when mbh posted his "Furious Five" or whatever, getting 5/5 iirc, i was just rofling and shaking my head wondering how he did it..
it was a clue-based game and i remember scooter was one of the mafia if it helps narrow it down
apparently it was TLM5
seriously i'm re-reading TLM5 and i just don't get it. halp?
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On April 09 2010 12:05 ~OpZ~ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 09 2010 11:35 JeeJee wrote:
This is what I'm trying oh so desperately to convey to you, and you seem to be missing it.
and yeah i'm ready to nuke whenever, although i believe we still have a fair amount of time
I don't believe my judgment is wrong here. We have two people, quite likely but not necessarily on different teams, one of which is a lying roleclaimer, the other one is just confusing as fuck. In a lylo situation (unless it is 6-3 but i doubt it) i can't believe we are not lynching the confirmed lying roleclaimer. It does not get more scummy than this. Nikon demonstrated this much too accurately.
Very true. We need people to argue. That's how we prevail. Through our discussion. I'm still not convinced of Caller's innocence. It pretty much becomes moot if Ace was just making flavor for the name as he did with me and Abenson.
Yo...JeeJee...I had answered the point you had said I been dodging, a bit before...
I thought you just kept saying I ignored it to make me mad.
Couldn't think of a good answer other than that....
So can I get anyones thoughts when I railed against citizen so hard? Please tell me you all saw that...I noticed JeeJee and Caller were the only to outright vote for citizen. Elemenope just tossed his support against citizen. I just refused to believe JeeJee was mafia...Had I turned there....
geh....Haster you bastard >_< You let JeeJee skate by, AND THEN said he didn't have to role claim...And you were the reason I had confirmed him...Omg....You coulda just claimed Town Aligned Arms Dealer (I think I posted the links to the games ace based this off of) especially considering you couldn't get hit at night.
Haster called for mafia by me, actually SK
Assumed Zona was dt, was actually vig
All the mafia defended L.... -______-
Last day I prove all mafia, and it all hinged on lynching LMNOP or Caller (assuming iaaan was mafia, but Haster would kill JeeJee, which would of put Iaaan back in the mix, I woulda said D3, but there was no way to get him lynched at that point.)
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Original Message:
Lol...
Well...I hope my trap is suscessful. I played it as good as I could, and for being so "purposely/seemingly" inactive, Caller sure missed a good bit of the thread. I also don't like Haster's arguments.
But two camps exist, with only d3 not being a part of either. If Citizen is town, and he voted for himself, it fucked my plan over completely. It forced LMNOP to sit on the sideline and not have to cast a vote.
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Original Message: (L)
lol.
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Just some insight...my full intention was for mafia to bus citizen and help caller create the bandwagon, see who jumps on it, then jump on Caller's lynch train...If Caller is being truthful, after messing up in this post
"Neither of whom looks at nukes but at people. We also have a veteran (iaaan) who can take night hits. Not nukes. So clearly, there are plenty of roles that don't involve nukes."
Then I will be highly upset....
God...So many nukes...I thought it was more balanced with nukes/anti and less nukes than that...
It was still a fun ass game...
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Some of you are incredibly bad at this game.
Mad <3 Ryan.
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No one had a lot of anti-nukes. It didn't make sense if everyone could nuke and enough anti-nukes were in the game to the point that nuking wasn't really a threat anymore.
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JeeJee// actually, if d3 launched his nuke, I would have immediately nuked you also before 24 hours were up. Then situation would be 4-5 to 3-4, but ToD raised up to 8. Since ToD was 9, all the nukes would have been frozen at that point.
~OpZ~// I just didn't want to give a speck of suggestion that tipped Mafia off of my ability lol. Also, you kept blasting me about being Mafia while you kept JeeJee, obvious scum, sliding, so I just decided to NK him and agreed with your points in order to mollify you.
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On April 11 2010 15:46 JeeJee wrote:Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 15:38 Elemenope wrote:On April 11 2010 14:04 JeeJee wrote:On April 11 2010 13:38 ~OpZ~ wrote:On April 11 2010 06:36 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 06:27 L wrote:On April 11 2010 05:45 iNfuNdiBuLuM wrote:On April 11 2010 05:05 L wrote:On April 11 2010 03:08 Ver wrote:
I loved Caller's strategy. Hosting his games must've paid off.
Caller's Recipe for Success. What to do if you get caught red-handed:
1) Post immediately out of nowhere after being accused despite having lurked the entire game.
2) Make up a bunch of random and far-fetched claims to mislead them. A cop here, random nation there, weird sanity here, convenient dead person check there...hmm that's not good enough.
3) Add even more bizarre claims to confuse them so much they just ignore you. What's missing? Invent a role! How about a Bus driver switch? Follow it up by sidetracking everyone into debates about how this role that doesn't exist works so they forget about the real issue.
4) When people finally stop getting sidetracked and come back to accusing you, spice it up more! Reveal you are actually an even more suspicious country, supply some random filler, and 'rolecheck' your accusers.
5) Now sidetrack everything onto a long debate about how the accuser's role works according to other rules to make everyone confused and waste time. Accuse said person that they don't understand their role. Mayhem ensues and town misses the lynch.
This should not have worked, but people are terrible. I think the distraction provided by XeliN / Nikon really helped him get away with it. edit: i'm also surprised at the number of nukes the mafia had Not really. That was stupid in its own right, but the last day alone was absolutely ridiculous. The entire mafia team was caught and townies basically went: " Ok lol, we won't kill any of you :3 :3 :3 " Well basically Opz was on the right track (finally) and Abenson would listen to him. Haster of course knew that he had to get mafia to win, so he was playing for the town that day. iaaan afk'd and didnt do anything, and citizen decided to be dramatic and vote for himself in a rage until he got his shit together and tried to defend himself. i think the town could have lynched caller, until they tried to switch to Elemenope at the last second and basically not enough people were there. No....Iaaan afk'd our way to loss...Even switching to LMNOP we coulda won if Iaaan was on and trusting me -_- tbh, there was no way you would have lynched any mafia that day. if lmnop/caller were actually in danger of getting lynched, we were gonna have d3 play the "lol im too busy but lets make it fun ##nuke:opz" card, drawing out an anti-nuke if there is one, and have caller/lmnop throw down real nukes after cuz we needed 2 to land for victory. i guess if we had done that during day4 we would've had that flawless which i oh so wanted, but decided to go with nolynch and do the nuke plan after as then we would only need 1 of the nukes to hit, so less risk in that sense. of course i ended up dying so both would've had to land anyway.... oh well come to think of it, did u guys even consider this when launching the nukes? were u so certain both were gonna land due to some new info or were you under the impression that we still needed only one? i was sleeping so i wasn't part of the decision making process there i mean i think flamewheel wasnt aware as he said it's gonna be gg as soon as one of the nukes lands which wasn't true actually, needed both. but yeah, fill me in? durr nvm im stupid ignore the above I had asked Flamewheel what his definition of majority was, and he said if we had 3-3, then we would win. I had waited until Caller was online before sending in our night actions anyway to ensure that we had 2-3 regardless. And since no anti-nukes were used previously, I was sure both were going to hit unless some townie decided that saving nemy would be an awful idea. aka You're dumb, 6 bottle more on Tiny fgt. if you were so sure both were gonna hit why didnt u agree to do this on day4 u fagling you just wanted me to die didn't you? edit: Show nested quote +On April 11 2010 13:58 L wrote:On April 11 2010 12:25 JeeJee wrote:On April 11 2010 12:14 Elemenope wrote:On April 11 2010 12:01 JeeJee wrote:also epic quotes (filler text usually cut out) **initial plans** + Show Spoiler +[22 Mar 10 22:25] * ace * all im saying is [22 Mar 10 22:25] * ace * look at the power of your roles [22 Mar 10 22:26] * elemenope * what, we have nukes [22 Mar 10 22:26] * elemenope * that's all we need [22 Mar 10 22:26] * ace * and how hard it is for you to just straight out get raped by nukes [22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * ace i think ur problem is [22 Mar 10 22:26] * caller * wtf i wanna nuke L [22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * u think we're good at mafia [22 Mar 10 22:26] * shinbi * but we just wanna nuke shit [22 Mar 10 22:26] * caller * i agree [22 Mar 10 22:26] * ace * I know **discussing night kills and random roletalk -- night 1** oh and meeple snipe reasoning is in here. at least my take on it, lmnop had a different reason iirc + Show Spoiler +[14:32] elemenope: anyway, what I'm thinking of is prot-me, kill-meeple, rb-whoever [14:32] shinbi: no [14:32] shinbi: we have a problem [14:32] elemenope: what [14:32] shinbi: or rather [14:32] shinbi: an issue worth discussing [14:32] shinbi: i talked to ace-- it matters WHO sends in the kill [14:32] shinbi: becaus that person is doing hte killing [14:33] shinbi: this leads me to believe there is like a triggerhappy or a tracker role in the game [14:33] elemenope: so we'll have caller do it [14:33] elemenope: easy pz [14:33] shinbi: tbh i think meeple is DT, but if he's not [14:33] shinbi: why not have you do it? [14:33] shinbi: if you hit a triggerhappy, you have medic prot [14:33] elemenope: wouldn't that bypass medic prot? [14:34] shinbi: i dunno [14:34] shinbi: i don think it should [14:34] shinbi: otoh if it uses up a medic prot and like SK hits u then u'll still die [14:34] shinbi: so maybe we're just better off using caller [14:34] elemenope: yeah [14:34] elemenope: we'll just have caller do it [14:35] shinbi: ok [14:35] shinbi: btw the reason i think meeple is dt is cos [14:35] shinbi: before L died he had like 35 posts [14:35] shinbi: after L died he had like 2 [14:35] shinbi: maybe he's thinking " o shit no more medix for me" [14:35] shinbi: [14:35] elemenope: yeah **during discussing of the insane-dt-bussed-onto-dead-guy plans** + Show Spoiler +
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * i should totally claim tracker
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * and claim i tracked fishball
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * caller * and saw him hit meeple
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * SO MAFIA HAS A ROLEBLOCKER AND A BUS?
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * lmao
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * i find that hard to believe
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * shinbi * that's fucking imba as fuck
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * elemenope * FUCK WHAT YOU FIND HARD TO BELIEVE
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * elemenope * THIS IS WORLD AT WAR
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * somehow
[31 Mar 10 21:53] * ace * I see this ending very badly
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * so what did i do
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * go claim you got bussed
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * from nikon
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * to meeple
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * as a dt
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * yes
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * elemenope * Yes
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * and on top of that im paranoid/insane
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * shinbi * as a, you've found out, insane dt
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * lol ok
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * this seems highly implausible
[31 Mar 10 21:56] * caller * and is going to get me killed
[31 Mar 10 21:57] * d3_crescentia * yes.
[31 Mar 10 21:57] * caller * but i like it
[31 Mar 10 21:58] * shinbi * for the record, i think the bus claim is fucking stupid as fuck-all. and is going to get caller killed
after the bus claim worked, it all kind of generated into random lulz and shit so i don't really have much to post aside from elemenope making fun of my bottles oh and one final excerpt for flamewheel commenting on elemenope's wall of text posts.. this was our take + Show Spoiler +
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * you realize i hope
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * nobody reads them
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * even i didn't
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * yeah I know
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * but when somebody says something
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * I'm just like
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * hey douche bag
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * I addressed this here
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * elemenope * fucking read next time
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * shinbi * LOL
[25 Mar 10 23:23] * ace * lmao
again thanks for the game ace, was lulz ^^. based on M.A.D. from MS i guess? edit @haster oh right. cuz i knew my nuke didn't go through, i was just screwing with the town during pages 115-116. i forgot that kind of revealed that i'm mafia and should've requested prot.. oh well If the bus claim wasn't thrown in, admit it: we would've lost. Just admit it right here 6 bottle shinbichan. stfu no it was only 2 bottles also after this game i have no idea how to do post analysis for mafia anymore at least for the first 2 days i was just posting whatever pro-town shit i would post normally just a bit more active cos i had a role. it doesnt really affect mafia unless a mafia's a target of popular opinion which given the odds they probably aren't. so i have no friggin' clue how people like mbh are so damn good at it. He gets leaked lists of all the roles, for starters. hmm? maybe you are referring to another game, maybe not, but the one i remember, i afk'd out like the townie everyone hates, and instead decided to spectate, knowing who the mafia were, so when mbh posted his "Furious Five" or whatever, getting 5/5 iirc, i was just rofling and shaking my head wondering how he did it.. it was a clue-based game and i remember scooter was one of the mafia if it helps narrow it down apparently it was TLM5 seriously i'm re-reading TLM5 and i just don't get it. halp?
L means Ace's Mafia World where MBH snuck into the other mafia's irc chat and got their family and all the bgs. He still figured out the non-bg town blue roles with camlito and no outside info afaik, though obviously that is much easier when you know 20/84 players.
MBH did something weird in TLM5; he got at least one mafia (rol; there was no 'randomizer') if not more from outside the game factors and didn't want that nor how to be known, not quite sure how. Don't think it was any role lists as Chuiu (wisely) doesn't give anyone any knowledge of that stuff until the game is over. I believe he got the others through a combination of thread traps and pm's but can't be sure.
Oh yeah, how did you know all the mafia in that game?
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On April 11 2010 23:55 haster27 wrote:
JeeJee// actually, if d3 launched his nuke, I would have immediately nuked you also before 24 hours were up. Then situation would be 4-5 to 3-4, but ToD raised up to 8. Since ToD was 9, all the nukes would have been frozen at that point.
~OpZ~// I just didn't want to give a speck of suggestion that tipped Mafia off of my ability lol. Also, you kept blasting me about being Mafia while you kept JeeJee, obvious scum, sliding, so I just decided to NK him and agreed with your points in order to mollify you.
Except we didn't really have any compunction about tying the game. Even on Day 1 Caller wanted everyone to die in a nuclear fire. ^_^
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On April 11 2010 23:55 haster27 wrote:
JeeJee// actually, if d3 launched his nuke, I would have immediately nuked you also before 24 hours were up. Then situation would be 4-5 to 3-4, but ToD raised up to 8. Since ToD was 9, all the nukes would have been frozen at that point.
~OpZ~// I just didn't want to give a speck of suggestion that tipped Mafia off of my ability lol. Also, you kept blasting me about being Mafia while you kept JeeJee, obvious scum, sliding, so I just decided to NK him and agreed with your points in order to mollify you.
depends how the timing would've worked out of course, if caller/lmnop nuked before you then it's irrelevant, if you nuked before them, then everyone would have lost (stop calling it a tie btw, a tie implies not losing )
@ver, i forget exactly, i think i just asked someone and agreed not to ruin the game if they told me. iirc i wanted to see what the mafia side was all about as i'd never been mafia before at the time and its hard to learn playing one side all the time
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Posting this here for now. When I'm fully settled in I'll go over analysis of this game and MM1:
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Day 1:
RoL nukes Caller
Elemenope shoots down Rol's nuke
Rol is lynched
rol Revenge nukes Johnnyspazz
tree.hugger nukes L
Xelin nukes Elemenope
Rol's nuke kills johnnyspazz
Bill Murray shoots down tree.hugger's nuke
Versatile nukes L
Bill Murray nukes Versatile
Versatile retals on BM
d3_crescentia shoots down Xelin's nuke
Versatile's nuke kills L
Bill Murray's nuke is a fake and Versatile lives
Versatile's nuke kills BM
~Opz~ nukes tree.hugger
~Opz~ nuke kills tree.hugger
Nikon nukes Zona
Abenson shoots down Nikon's nuke
Night 1:
meeple investigates Iaaan
Mafia hit meeple
d3_crescentia protect Elemenope
haster127 steals from JeeJee
Fishball tracks Caller
d3 protects Elemenope
Nikon shoots Amber[Light]
Day 2:
Xelin nukes Zona
Xelins nuke kills Zona
Xelin is lynched
Night 2:
d3_crescentia protects Elemenope
haster steals a nuke from Abenson
Mafia(Caller) hits Verse
JeeJee RB Fishball
Fishball tracks nikon
Day 3:
Nikon nukes Iaaan
Nikons nuke is fake, Iaaan survives
Abenson nukes Opz
~Opz~ nukes JeeJee
Iaaa nukes Abenson
nemy nukes Nikon
Nikon reflects the nuke back to nemy
nemy is killed by the nuke
Nikon dies due to lynch
Night 3:
haster shoots JeeJee
Fishball tracks ~opz~
Caller kills FB
JeeJee RB haster
d3 prots Caller
Day 4:
abenson nukes opz
opz nukes Iaaan
opz survives abenson's nuke
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Oh yea...
The nuke transfer ability never existed
It was a ploy to make the mafia think we still had killing power :O
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Ver, I remember that TLM5 game, we all got fucked hard. I had to be AFK for the first day and came back dead. I came back and you guys pulled that randomizer shit. Didn't MBH supposedly cheat that game? I remember someone PMed me an d asked if he had tricked me through PM's and since I haven't ever played with him before, let alone PMed with him that was bullshit.
So was there foul play or not? I honestly was just legit AFK and had been mafia before. Feigning AFK is only how I played mafia once.
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