Рабоче-Крестьянская Красная Армия мафия - Page 37

On March 09 2010 03:37 citi.zen wrote:
I must be slow or something, so please explain this to me day by day.

Right now we have 2 "can shoot" players out of 23 people. Let's use Ace's "worst case" speculative number of 7 mafia. So we have a 7 vs. 16 situation. Next the mafia can kill 2 greens, making it 7 reds vs 14 players, with 2 confirmed greens. Then we shoot someone you want to shoot - Shock or myself or Incognito. They likely turn green/blue. The mafia kills 2 more people. Now we have 7 mafia vs. 11 greens, with only 3 confirmed "can shoot" players (BM, Mal, and 3rd shoter). Since according to you it does not matter anyway who we shoot, we kill someone else who is a "stupid green", let's say whoever is left of shcokkey/incognito/myself. Then the mafia kill 2 more townies. Now we have a 7 vs 8 situation, with only four confirmed shooters.

How is this a good plan (for the town, that is)? Please explain it to me slowly, day by day.

On March 09 2010 03:37 sidesprang wrote:
Crescentia, ace it seems like your missing a major point. Lets use your example about end of day 6.

6 people have shot = 6 dead
the mafia could have killed 9 guys(they have already lost one kill)

that means 15 dead total, and 11 left alive. But this does not mean that there is only 5 people left alive that has not shot anyone, because the 6 that has shot can all have been taken out by the mafia. Making it 11 people left alive that has not shot anyone.

So the worst case at end of day 6 is 11 ppl alive none of them having made one shot. If its 4-5 mafia left then the town have lost.

On March 09 2010 02:52 Ace wrote:



How many Mafia do you really think there are in this game? Even with 7 Mafia the town wins by straight shoot outs.

Look, Malongo and Bill Murray have already shot someone. Put them in the pool of probably innocent.

Everyone else that hasn't shot must prove they are town by shooting someone scummy.

Regular Mafia cant shoot.

With even 15 town vs 7 Mafia in that situation, the town wins.

Do you honestly think there are SEVEN Mafia in a 26 player game? That would be ludicrous. Like I said this setup has at most 5. 5 would be pushing imbalance, and 4 would be just right. You don't need to know how many Mafia there are in the game for this plan to work.

Are you starting to get my posts now?

On March 09 2010 03:37 sidesprang wrote:
Crescentia, ace it seems like your missing a major point. Lets use your example about end of day 6.

6 people have shot = 6 dead
the mafia could have killed 9 guys(they have already lost one kill)

that means 15 dead total, and 11 left alive. But this does not mean that there is only 5 people left alive that has not shot anyone, because the 6 that has shot can all have been taken out by the mafia. Making it 11 people left alive that has not shot anyone.

So the worst case at end of day 6 is 11 ppl alive none of them having made one shot. If its 4-5 mafia left then the town have lost.

On March 09 2010 03:43 Incognito wrote:


Oh finally now you decide that the list plan is nice for killing regular mafia even at the expense of letting the GF through. This strat switch makes you look kind of...well, you know.

Either way, no we don't win with 15 v. 7. Mafia get 2 hits per night.

On March 09 2010 03:42 Ace wrote:


Do you really think only townies are playing stupid?

Do you really, honestly think any rational townie is going to shoot an active player? well, wait nevermind about that point.

Hi, lets go through it like this:

16 vs 7.

Of our current player base, lets say 13 are active.

that leaves 10 inactives to shoot off.

Everyone who hasn't shot yet, start shooting.

If you hesitate and don't role claim, you get shot by someone else willing to do it. How does the town lose in this situation?

Worst case scenario that you described skips people trying to prove their role. Shockeyy already fucked up on his role claim. If you honestly believe he's truly a medic I have no hope for you. He's going to get shot by me, or some other sane townie reading this thread.

Like I said, stop worrying so much about me and read whats going on.

On March 09 2010 03:34 Ace wrote:
Thats a pretty shitty theory.

BTW you should read that PM from February 28th and compare it to what I've done this game. You'll find something interesting going on. lulz.

I have no idea how Vivi is even connected to me. But I'm just about to shoot you anyway.

The town can't kill me once I shoot. Because then they'd have to kill Malongo and BM too. The Mafia want to kill probable innocent shooters. We've already shown we aren't going to punish people for shoot first ideals. So you lose. Keep up with the game and stop posting nonsense.

On March 09 2010 03:47 citi.zen wrote:


I am trying to just "read what's going on" and focus on the plan which makes most sense to me - the one proposed by Incognito.

I just don't get why now you are against it, advocating chaos and for people to "stop worrying" and just shoot. Weren't you the one to think an ordered list was helpful? Isn't this in line with Incognito's plan?

What gives?

On March 09 2010 03:51 Incognito wrote:


Oh Ace. Ignoring my entire post except for my sarcastic conspiracy theory. Which obviously is a joke. Unlike BM and Malongo, you're stirring up shit. So no, your case != their cases. Care to respond to the serious portions about my post about l10f?

Right here and now if I was the GF it would make the most sense to shoot an active contributor.

On March 09 2010 03:56 Ace wrote:


I read the l10f part and put him in the same boat as shockeyy. Anyone lurking should be shot. Don't really care what his reasons are.