Рабоче-Крестьянская Красная Армия мафия - Page 20

On March 08 2010 03:35 L wrote:
Fulgrim, Abenson, the current most inactive player.

Many suggestions have been put out but people seem to be intentionally not talking about it.

On March 08 2010 03:56 Fulgrim wrote:


You could call it an upswing in participation, it was a saturday night I was out. I like posting my thoughts whether you think them trash or not.

Ok lets talk about the town's plan for a minute. We wanted a list of people that we could use to decide the order for who is doing the shooting each day. Ace came up with a list of people and declared Malongo to be the first target. So the issue with his list is that we don't know whether Ace is mafia or not, which could be solved by either A) Killing him, B) Rolechecking him, or C) Using a different list! I was trying to expand on citi.zen's idea that everyone could make a random list and pm it to two designated people. That way we could solve the problem without wasting a DT check (which Ace could be a CIA agent), or killing Ace. It makes the most sense to ME at least.

I agree with your last point at least, that getting a large amount of people to do something is difficult, but chances are the mafia would kill one of the people who are being active, and who would pm their list to these people.

On March 08 2010 04:21 L wrote:

Or we could flip the list and there's zero problems. If you think we're going to get 26 people throwing out 52 pms, you're pretty out of your mind. mafia killing someone who didn't bother to make a list essentially lets them have 2 people engineer a list. Additionally, someone having pmed the other dead target (kp is at least 2, remember? ) gives someone the ability to forge the list if he waits and no one speaks up.

Now do you see the 'gaming the system' part?

On March 08 2010 03:29 XeliN wrote:
I disagree with Aces plan and quite frankly i would consider the simple fact that he is pressing to kill molongo, someone who to me seems highly likely to be green, as a valid reason in itself not to go along with it.

If aces plan is implemented I will not be following it and if this results in my death then meh, the life expectancy of Russians is probably quite low anyway.

On March 08 2010 02:46 789 wrote:
Well if we are going to go with random lists that is made by a confirmed green. Here's my proposition. We start with Ace's inverted list which will have Abenson as the first to execute. I think you can all agree with me (no offense abenson) that it is unlikely abenson was chosen as the CIA agent. If he can shoot he is more than likely green. Then abenson could use the same method Ace did to create a list. This would give us a list that we will not have to worry about bias.

On March 08 2010 05:28 dozko wrote:


Your idea is good but your thought process is ridiculous. Judging by the length of the night the reds have not yet sent in their night actions to Caller. Therefore the CIA agent is yet to be chosen. Furthermore nothing stops the reds electing abenson as the cia (if he is one of them) and then simply telling him what to write/writing for him.

So basically here's how I would like our strategy. 1) We go with ace's initial idea of a random list 2) We go with 789's idea of letting the confirmed green shooter generate a new list every day 3) We DO NOT decide on how to rearrange the original random list by ace until it is Day 2.

Also just for the record the chance that Xelin is pro town in all 3 games (BC's, Incog's, Caller's [assuming 6 reds]) is 11%.

On March 08 2010 06:15 d3_crescentia wrote:
Okay, just reread all the posts since I logged off early this morning and my mind is feeling way clearer. Didn't realize that the CIA had the GF power; my bad for lacking reading comprehension at the time.

Dozko I have no idea where you got those numbers for XeliN and I don't think they're too helpful anyway.

I support the Ace/789 plan; still don't think Malongo is really worth a shot though. If Abenson doesn't post is he going to get modkilled?

On March 08 2010 06:01 XeliN wrote:
Dozko that is faulty logic, here is the link so you may correct this most silly of assumptions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gambler's_fallacy

techinally actually it isn't but the insinuation is that my likelihood of being Mafia in this game is somehow greater than other peoples and in that sense it is faulty