EPTTL Mafia XVIII
| Forum Index > TL Mafia |
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
In better news: My fantasy team is in the top 10! And it'll stay there for a whole week! | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Going to sleep now... | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Usually in a mafia game there would be about 10-14 or so mafia for 50 people. I think their KP would be about 4-5. I'm not really much of a mafia game organizer so I dunno if these stats are totally right, but I'm sure they're not far off if they are. So if it's just town v. mafia the town is at a major disadvantage, with 20 mafia and a KP of 6. Obviously this is balanced out by the fact that the two mafia families are trying to kill each other. So the goal right now is just to survive IMO. Redtooth mentioned that the town is screwed if the two mafia families decide to mutually kill off the town. This is true, but it'll never happen. The two mafia families would have to talk to each other in order for that to happen, and if one revealed any names to the other they'd all die. Even if they worked together to kill the town, you'd still want to be at least one kill up on the other family so you'd win the shootout afterwards. The last game with two mafia families was horrible for the town because the two families were not in opposition, they just didn't know who exactly was in the other group. Once they found each other and connected, the town was screwed. Again, this isn't the case for this game. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 15 2010 08:04 L wrote: SCAMP START FUCKING POSTING. Geez, man. Can't a guy lurk in peace? What exactly do you want me to post about? I have a question about the game. I'm not 100 percent sure it hasn't been asked already, so sorry if it has. When a DT checks someone and they turn up mafia, does the DT also get to know which family that mafia is from? I'm looking ahead to the scenerio where one mafia family gets hosed and the last 2 members of the family have to go into the "town protection program." | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
As if mafia have to act a certain way to make sure we all know who they are. Please stop saying things like that. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 16 2010 06:31 Nikoner wrote:We can't just blindly post lists of confirmed mafia, what if we discover 8 members of the same family? If we post that, it's pretty much an auto-loss. Suddenly, being able to derive information from a somewhat private discussion becomes much more powerful. Couple that with the fact that mafia wouldn't typically want to kill DTs as you and it's not that bad of an idea. No, it's not an auto-loss. The game then becomes a hunt for the last two members of that family, with the town trying to protect them with their medics while the other family tries to kill them and the town medics with a KP of 3 or less. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 16 2010 07:55 Mystlord wrote:Oh, and another point about Empyrean... Where do we go from his lynch? Are we just lynching to help out the other mafia family or what? I might be a bit ignorant in this, so I'd like to get this cleared up before I'm fully on board with the Empyrean lynch. It seems more like a dead end to me. If he truly is mafia, why not let a mafia family waste a kill on him? With this logic, you're saying the town wants to do nothing and let the mafia do all the work. Basically, if we know someone is mafia we're going to kill them. Sure, the other family wants to kill them too, but the goal of the town is to take down as many mafia as possible as soon as possible to reduce their KP. We only need to worry about a mafia family winning once one family is reduced to the other family's KP. Besides, if we don't kill people that we think are mafia, what else are we supposed to do with our lynches? | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
If either L or Redtooth (or both) are mafia, then they'll help us catch the other family. Even assuming they can hit the other family with incredible accuracy (3KP plus town lynches) there will still be two members of the other family left after night 3. At that point the town can step in and help protect the last two and the game will continue from there. So everyone please stop worrying about nuking one of the two families. Even in the worst case scenerio the town will still have a fighting chance. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
I wish you guys would stop fear-mongering. We take out as many mafia as we can to start the game. Period. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Well, unless the town has been reduced to three or less at that point. With a medic in tow, no less. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
If I were a mafia family I would kill any medics I could. If you don't, then they may prove to be a huge obstacle towards winning. I suppose you might argue to keep them around to help you later, but that seems to me like playing to not lose rather than playing to win. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
And my point is that the medics give the town control over the race. And that's something either mafia doesn't want to deal with. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 18 2010 04:06 redtooth wrote: only alternative is Ver faked his protection but that is a huge gamble (if someone else comes forward with a protection claim then the numbers don't add up), i don't know if he realized BC was double tapped at the time, and there really is no benefit to that move. I don't see this as a gamble, under the circumstances, assuming that he's mafia. If someone else comes forward with a protection claim then the numbers still add up, since there's an extra hit due to BC. However, I believe his claim that he was hit and protected since I can't actually see the benefit of false claiming. It doesn't clear him as non-mafia and whoever protected him can't claim to him. All that we know, assuming it's true, is that one of the mafia families targeted him. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
However, I would certainly like to point out that the clue analysis toward me has been flimsy at best, and the only thing pointing toward me that sticks is the presence of sewage. Nothing is indicating anything being blocked as far as I can tell, and whoever mentioned a cat knocking something over is also ignoring the grunting and panting sounds. L, stick on me if you want, but you were elected on the basis of actively hunting out the truth. The reason I voted for you is so you could do just that. So please don't just tunnel on me, there's got to be other candidates you heavily suspect especially if you're going for a double lynch next time. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Essentially his profile is about his brown army, so I propose he killed 789 with the power of shit sewage. That's where the grunting and panting noises come in as well. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
I suppose our double lynch can be used later to balance out the families if one goes down 5/3 or whatever, but that's assuming we can get the right guys. Also, we get three double-lynches so using one now won't ruin our opportunity for that later. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 22 2010 04:12 Iaaan wrote: the only problems I'm seeing is that we are going after the sumiyoshi family (Redtooth, Ver, Quickstriker, Chez, maybe some others), and the Gambino family isn't taking too many hits (Caller, no one else?). This. Is what makes it so difficult to trust anyone. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
I really don't have any excuses for lack of activity other than the SC2 beta. It's really freakin' difficult to provide something in this format. But other than L, who IS PROVIDING ACTUAL EVIDENCE (wrong as it may be) I would really like everyone else who has pointed a finger at me to explain why I am to be lynched. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
I like how everyone I challenged to find a link between myself and anyone else in the game has shut up on the topic. I say this to everyone: Going after me, for any reason, is a waste of time. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
laaan ohN tredmasta ShocKeyy These five people voted but didn't vote for the double-lynch. My question is: why? Well Caller I can understand, but the rest I can't. Also: Who the hell is tredmasta? | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
That being said, we'll just have to wait and see for now. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 25 2010 13:21 L wrote: Scamp's the shitter clue. If you haven't noticed, there are many combination clues wherein one part points to someone and the other part points to someone else. The kill here points to amber, the leadup, specifically the coffee mug, points to scamp. I'm still in favor of killing scamp tomorrow, but amber's also mafia. Malongo, you really think that fits me better? Why? L: The coffee mug could also point to decafchicken. I also think that the mug and items means that Lucas was in the bathroom - not quite sure of the significance of that though. I also think that the taunting actions of the attacker may have some significance. Perhaps there is someone who Lucas was angry with earlier? I'll check it out. Could you point out a lot of these combination clues? I would really appreciate it if you took one of your DTs and checked me. This has gone on long enough. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 25 2010 14:20 Nikon wrote: Yes, he clearly was in the bathroom when the text states that he was woken up by the sound of the perpetrator's laugh. Moreover, your profile fits the toothbrush, coffee mug, empty water bottle nicely. Nice try tho. Wait, what? How does my profile fit the toothbrush and empty water bottle nicely? | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Anyway, the only person that appears in that list and Malongo's list is Cynanmachae. But I think we can wait until after the night is over to discuss people. Mafia KP will whittle down suspects and hopefully open up new revelations. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
And is it just me, or is it clearly obvious that Caller was killed by J-spazz? I'm 100 percent positive now that L and Chez are in the same family. The only problem is that it wastes our double-lynch to target them both, but at least we have two more. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
At this point, you're spamming the thread more than Chezinu is. Not to mention you haven't pressed Chez for any info whatsoever. You also don't seem to mind that he's being his usual waste of space. Your only plan to see about his legitimacy has been to kill me. On top of all that, you never apologized for being wrong about Redtooth, and now you want to lead the town again? Plain and simple: you're not good for the town. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
People die for a reason. Go through their posts and see what may have gotten them killed. Though I'm talking to half town and half mafia at this point. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 26 2010 10:49 johnnyspazz wrote: I'm just wondering, can the town vote for another double lynch? Yes, of course. Though I'll have to see how this vote goes before I commit to another double lynch. After this day and night there may be more mafia than town. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 26 2010 14:24 L wrote: Besides you, the only people bothering to vote for me are inactive lurkers or 100% candidates. You're so fortunate. I've got a bunch of inactive lurkers on me as well as you and Foolishness. There's a lot I really don't understand right now. One are the people who are voting for both L and myself. What could be the possible motivation for that? Maybe they think L is mafia but has hunted me down because I'm in the opposite family? Well that would mean that L is Gambino, since he's accusing me of being Sumi. I challenge anyone to make that argument, because it doesn't make any sense. But what also doesn't make any sense is that people think I'm a higher priority over Chezinu. Maybe I missed all the help that he's been since according to Foolishness I have to read his posts very carefully.....but no. Why would anyone read any of his posts? I also find it hard to believe that any detective with four days can't find a mafia to kill. I also find it hard to believe that any detective who outs himself early in the game can't clear any townies or provide any kind of helpful insight throughout the game. So if either Foolishness or L (especially Foolishness, though) want to provide evidence that Chezinu is town and can convince me of such, I'll vote for myself. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 26 2010 15:46 L wrote: I don't see how a useless non-posting mafia player with multiple solid clue links should be a lower priority than a DT. You exaggerate the truth with "multiple solid clue links" and I say that if he is a DT, and a very public one, he should prove it. Also I'm not mafia. I can sort of prove it with voting records. I'm curious about this list of people who voted for me on day 3 and then left. Scamp Votes: 1 Chezinu L Caller johnnyspazz tree.hugger Nikoner There should be lines through everyone but Nikoner. This could be a nice collection of mafia....and also Nikoner. It should be fairly obvious through the context of the thread that the probability of me being bussed is very low. Thus, confirmed mafia Caller and Johnnyspazz agree on something here, along with mafia suspects L, Chezinu, and tree.hugger. Both mafia families know that I'm not with them, and they should also know by now that I'm not with the other side either. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 26 2010 16:11 L wrote: I linked you to the shitter clue and said "feel free to disprove me", you came up with another possibility for the clue, so we killed redtooth instead like morons. If caller, spazz and hugger wanted to try and bus you, I sure as fuck stopped it when I said you were right and injected enough doubt with your rebuttal. But how exactly does that make you innocent? Right now the votes on me: L: (5) Scamp Amber[LighT] tree.hugger Versatile sidesprang Scamp, amber, tree.hugger and sidesprang all are likely mafia members. 4/5 Pretty damning. I guess by your logic I'm innocent too. Killing Redtooth had nothing to do with me providing another possibility. Also saying you stopped a bus goes against everything I said since my claim was that the probability of me being bussed was very low. And no, the votes on you now is not the same thing. There are no confirmed mafia in that list, just some probables. On my list are confirmed mafia from (most likely) both families as well as likely mafia. The confirmed part makes all the difference. I also asked for some evidence that Chez provided help to the town as a DT. What happened to that? Stop twisting/ignoring my words and start looking for reds like you said you were going to. Also do not ignore Malongo's posts. That goes for everyone. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 26 2010 16:59 sidesprang wrote: voting scamp, because of the cluelink towards you. Opinions on Chezinu, please. Behavior-wise you've either got to be the biggest "don't step on any toes" mafia ever or just a scared townie. The only reason why I'm not going to try to push anything on you right now is because if you're mafia, you're probably Gambino. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
He keeps mentioning me as a solid cluelink, even though there's only one clue that's actually solid toward me and even then he admitted that it's more likely to point toward Chezinu. Continually pointing the finger at me is not scumhunting. I asked Foolishness and L to defend Chezinu over a day ago. Neither has stepped up to offer anything. So let me ask the seven people who are voting for me: why? What makes me the most likely candidate? Is it because L said that some clues point to me? I've noted how I've been targeted, SERIOUSLY targeted by both mafia families. That claim simply hasn't been countered. I simply ask: where is the suspicion coming from? I am simply a green townie, and my history/actions should prove that. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 27 2010 07:56 L wrote: Chez claims he's checked like 3-4 people who've flipped green, and that's cool. Maybe he's lying. Maybe he isn't. Regardless, the easiest way to see if he's lying is to kill scamp, but for some reason scamp/him are tied. Additionally, targets like amber and tree.hugger, who have been playing incredibly obvious as mafia, or players like OhN, who have a ton of clues pointing to them but don't fucking post aren't being looked at. I still don't know why you insist that killing me sheds light on Chez. Did Chez check me and say I was anything? No he did not. All you have is one clue that could possibly point to either me or Chez, and that's it. So killing me doesn't exactly shed a great amount of light on him. I also find it difficult to believe that a DT with 4 checks can't find a mafia in this game. On the other hand, if a bandwagon starts to go after OhN I'd be in support of that. I'd also support one against Tredmasta and Cynanmachae. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 27 2010 08:19 Malongo wrote: Thats the most stupid thing you may have said all game long and proves you have no fucking clue about how to play townie. In the most basic sense it says hey! i support virtually any last second badwagon so i dont get killed. We have over a day left, I'd hardly call that last-second. We have a number of coasters who barely post anything, and in some cases they literally don't post anything. We know they're active in the game because they vote. It's good for the town to get people talking. The only way we might possibly get these people talking is to vote for them. So before you assess my ability to play townie, you might want to think about the situation we have just a little bit harder. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
I am, however, less confident about L being mafia. But I really don't see the case against tree.hugger. I don't see any solid clue links to him. Yes occasionally part of a tree appears but that's about it, I'd hardly consider that solid. And yes a bunch of innocent people voted for him on day 3....but how does that prove anything? | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
I agree strongly that tree.hugger needs to post. Also who the hell is Tredmasta? | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On February 27 2010 14:37 dozko wrote: The lack of content does indeed generally hint red, however as I stated previously lets go after the people we have already discussed and have seemingly solid leads on first. Strategies conditionally based on current information, I believe, are more valuable in comparison to the "general mafia theory red tell" that they are exhibiting. First, to address something you said earlier, Chezinu was not the DT that checked Quickstriker. The only thing he's done to prove himself at all is post a list of four townies and himself that he supposedly checked. Now, the problem we have right now is that there are several people who are not talking and have no reason to because we put no pressure on them to say anything. If we just go on what we have right now then no matter what the results are we'll have nothing to go on after the fact. Case in point: ShoCkeyy. The guy voted for myself and L, an action to which I believe is incredibly puzzling. What is the point of voting both L and me? The only people that've offered up an explanation are Vivi and Sidesprang, and both of their reasons are awful. We need to understand more of why people are playing the way they are. We need to force people to start participating or else we're always just going to be guessing and hoping. Also who the hell is Tredmasta? | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Here's the case against me... One possible clue link. L's assertiveness. I've already noted how both mafia families are voting for me. No matter who among the top suspects you think are mafia, the fact remains that both families have put me up for consideration throughout the game. Seriously, take a good look at the voting record. If I'm still one of your top two mafia candidates after this, I don't know what else to say. Finally, do not use clues as your main argument. Use the clues to support an argument you can get through more solid means. If your main and/or only argument is that a clue points to someone, you're playing poorly. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
I again simply ask people to seriously think about why they are voting me. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + From: Chezinu [ Profile | Buddy ] Subject: Re: You way out Date: 2/28/10 06:10 Will do. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: Yeah, I think it's a fear of everyone (including the mods and maybe excluding the other team) that a mafia family may quit when they get down to two. But if people did that then they'll be banned from future games. Plus there is technically a way to win still, difficult as it may be. You can still win if you eliminate the other family and the town has equal/less people than you. This means reducing the town to two before you kill the other family. Difficult but possible. I am not really above saving myself just for the sake of saving myself. I'm not going to just save myself in order to kill someone I think is innocent. Technically L is still being killed in front of me, so I don't need to vote for both. There's probably going to be a last-second flurry of activity, so I'm worried. So while Ver was innocent that doesn't mean his analysis is correct. I'm still slightly skeptical of tree.hugger being scum, but his recent activity of popping in once then disappearing again isn't doing him any favors. Cyan I suspect more because of his behavior and voting record. I just wish I could find some kind of clue link to support my analysis. Do you know who that guy is in his profile? So yeah, let your supporters know that I will change my vote to tree.hugger and Cyan if the support to lynch them increases. But please let them also know that it is not to save my own ass but because I genuinely suspect that they are mafia. ----------------------------------------- Original Message: If you vote tree.hugger and Cyan I think you might be able to save yourself. I know a lot of people suspect Cyan and I'm willing to take my vote off of you and on to him if it doesn't kill me. I wouldn't want you to die if that means you are taking L with you. Plus, some of people I've been talking to think you are innocent and out of them some are voting for you just to save me. Our best hope is that the town will be active enough to change votes and the mafia that is against Cyan. But if your townie and not a blue role, your going to die already unless the other mafia has better targets... I think I'm the only blue left so if your town switching to Cyan can't hurt. Even if your mafia and cyan is on your team, he will probably die tonight soon... Well, I guess this lynch isn't about lynching mafia so much.. It's about saving me and L. With L, town has a hostage. With me, they gain one more rolecheck before I die. But if I live I also benefit the mafia...so would they even hit me? With two mafia teams, lynches really aren't all or nothing except when it comes to medics, DT, and elected roles. Well, so far that went bad... now it's just me and L left... Even if L is mafia, killing him would be dumb for town. town can let two members of each mafia team live and still win. with L protected it will make mafia wonder if they can win without lynching him. Uh oh.. I just thought of something.. What if a mafia team gets down to two members? Will those members not vote and modkill themselves thus ending the game before town could win? Does that mean there is no hope for town unless both mafia teams kill themselves all in one night? -this has been the thoughts of Chezinu as he reflects what is the best move for town, if it even exists and if there is more than one route to reach the town's goal. Town success depends on the mafia's success. May the mafia kill well tonight. By that I mean not kill me since that would be dumb because the other mafia might kill me... maybe one mafia is smarter than the other... but I don't have that hope anymore for two medics are down. Meeple the clue analyzer and Redtooth our Great mayor, the protector of the unprotected who detected the detective, the one who made the town go round and round. The one who took a tangent path at the site of the BcraftstarII bomb. Let the matters guide you. for had matters, especially when letters in front of 2 and 3 switch their places. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Also would you guys read my last post and take a good look at Chezinu? He has absolutely no authority over his "town circle" and those players haven't coordinated once over the course of the entire game. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
There are no vigilantes, BTW. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Laaan and Amber were both on L's Sumi circle, I think that's one of the reasons they were targeted. At this point, I really want to hear from Abenson and oHn and their reasons why we shouldn't kill them. I also want Abenson to answer what he did not last night and explain why I was most likely to be mafia yesterday. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Can you please tell me what page it's on? | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Sort of re-confirms my position on Abenson and ohN. Will wait for them to post, though. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
But he also lumped me in there with Malongo while making a case against Malongo. I think it's pretty clear that I'm town now, but if there's still a case against me I'd love to hear it. Anyway, the point is that he could just be making bad suggestions when he said the last Gambino should reveal himself. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On March 01 2010 15:24 Vivi57 wrote: god i suck at this tonight ebwop: shockey, not scamp Oh, I see. I still don't know what you mean when you said that you don't think they would mess with their kp this late in the game. I must be reading that wrong. Foolishness I'll look into Opz again but I'm not quite sure about him yet. However, I'll let him defend himself. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Opz made half-ass contributions to the game? Your contributions consist of the last second voting analysis and often stating "NO ONE CARES." By the way, what happened to that analysis? Way to bring it up and then never go back to it again. Mafia plan: Come in when people are talking about you, make a few posts, disappear again. This is what you said, this is also what you've done. Maybe not to the extent where you only show when people are talking about you, but I noticed Ver pegging you on a small list of Sumiyoshi suspects. Mafia plan: Kill people who are suspicious of you. Well guess who was killed: Ver. And guess who used Ver's analysis post-death as a reason to go after tree.hugger: You. Interesting. And guess who Ver suspected: You. Your whole argument against Opz revolves around what Caller said way back early in the game. It really seems to me that Caller was talking about Opz in previous games, but you took it and made a really long argument with it about how he was expected to provide clue analysis. Because one person said so. The only part that seems clear to me is that Opz needs to participate more. That's pretty much it. Except perhaps the voting record. So Opz hasn't voted for anyone that's mafia with the exception of Quickstriker. Guess who else fits that profile? You. Technically you get points for voting QS over redtooth, and I guess you voted for Bill Murray for mayor despite him not having a snowball's chance at that point. But you still have a highly suspicious record that now needs to be addressed. Finally, you never explained why you voted for me yesterday other than to say that I'm more likely to be mafia over L and Chezinu. That's not what's wrong. You also mentioned MULTIPLE TIMES that L is CLEARLY INNOCENT and apparently you're trying to brush by that fact. You also were asked MULTIPLE TIMES by me to clarify HOW CHEZINU HAS PROVEN HIMSELF and you've just not addressed that at all. Also nice contribution by telling J-spazz to just stop posting when he brought something up against Shockeyy. So let's face it.....you really don't have the right to accuse someone like this when there's a lot of things you simply haven't addressed that have come up against you. I'd like an explanation please. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
If a gazillion people have given themselves away, why are you only focusing on Opz? And aren't you even the least bit offended that of the people left Vivi only thinks that Malongo is worthy of being a GF? HEY EVERYBODY! IF FOOLISHNESS SENT YOU A PM TELLING YOU TO TAKE YOUR VOTE OFF OF L, PLEASE POST IT NOW. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Also Sidesprang too. But I have no idea what kind of time schedule he's on. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On March 02 2010 04:35 Versatile wrote: why are you screaming my name? that usually only happens in the bedroom, owwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww. but anyway, i voted for who i think is mafia, based on posts and behavior. is there an issue? Yes, the issue is that we're basically at MDLSLO (Mis-double-lynch Sumiyoshi and lose) unless the town happens to have two medics left over. So I really, really want to know what everyone is thinking when they vote. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On March 02 2010 08:26 Vivi57 wrote: ok town, we need to coordinate. ABENSON SIDESPRANG XELIN two of those need to die tonight. The very last thing we need is to have town split their votes among all 3 and get to the point where the smafia just overrun us with votes and we can't do anything about it because our votes are too split up. We need to organize and figure out which two we want offed tonight. Alright, here's where I'm at right now. As much as I hate to do it, I'm going to take Chezinu on his word now and assume that he's the DT. L was very correct when he said that one DT is too few for the town to have, and no one else has stepped forward claiming such. No one has even tried to false claim. If there is a DT still out there then he's the worst DT ever since there's practically no reason not to reveal yourself and five nights worth of information by now. So, unless they're godfathers, this clears Vivi and Foolishness. And if you believe that I am innocent that means that since L, myself, and tree.hugger were the primary suspects in the last lynch and we were all non-Sumi. So if you're Sumiyoshi there was no reason to protect anyone and also no reason to pile votes on anyone. Getting more to the point right now is Versatile's behavior today. He's either Sumiyoshi or he didn't read the thread very well before voting. This is because he voted for Opz after Johnyspazz's post. He also voted for Abenson at the time. Now, after a little momentum, he's changed his votes to Malongo and Foolishness. If you assume that Versatile is Sumiyoshi, then this pattern of behavior is very telling. I think that it doesn't matter who is voted for out of the four that's been targeted so far, as they're all not Sumiyoshi. tl;dr: I think Abenson might be innocent. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
I also like the idiocy you so subtly hint at when you've done nothing all game to warrant such a statement. Come up with something brilliant to save the town or else you're mired in here with the rest of us. Abenson: Claiming BG doesn't mean jack. Also why are you voting for Opz? Doing that just makes me want to kill you. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
But yeah, double lynch is very important. Don't forget to vote for that. Or, in other words, anyone who doesn't vote for a double lynch will be killed on the next day. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Again, anyone who does not vote for a double lynch will be killed on the next day. Exception for Malongo if he can't vote. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Offer any proof that J-spazz is Sumiyoshi and I'll consider it. Otherwise....wth? | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Double lynch is the only guaranteed wise action by the town right now. I will keep your hat as a trophy. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
You = johnnyspazz, btw. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
If you don't die, I think town wins. What's the ruling on this? OH NO! INCOGNITO IS INACTIVE TOO!!! | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
On March 03 2010 09:35 Qatol wrote: Actually the tiebreaker used was checking who had more votes at a time when they weren't tied. There was a point where spazz had 2 votes while chezinu had <2. Therefore, spazz died. It's kinda a crummy tiebreak, but it's the only fair one I could think of on the spot. Just something else to talk about after the game is over. Well it is consistent with the rules, so yeah. Plus now I get to blame Versatile for this. I'd say it's just something for the organizer to add for future games. Doesn't even really matter IMO what the ruling is as long as it's announced when the game starts. Kill both, kill one, kill neither are all fine. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
Much hilarity IMO. Also lack of tact. | ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
|
Scamp
United States1086 Posts
| ||
| ||
