EPTTL Mafia XVIII - Page 17
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Ace
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L
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Abenson
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
On February 14 2010 12:09 Abenson wrote: so that doesn't mean chezinu was mafia trying to get info out of us? D: good guys get information too. Look at a previous game I played. I was DT and I got two mafia with my first two role checks.. but people were pretty inactive and weren't trying as hard...but still says something right? | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
On February 14 2010 12:11 Ace wrote: No, come up with new plans. This entire discussion around whether to use Clues on Day 1 is so revealing already. Like I said it doesn't matter how many Mafia are in the game, using Clues to catch people isn't going to change the fact that they are subjective call outs. See the point now? Ace I totally agree! You should vote for me because I use pm's to analysis people. And you should try to get everyone else to vote for me too. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
On February 14 2010 12:06 Ace wrote: Ok L, try using that the "40% of people are Mafia argument". It doesn't help. Blindly pointing fingers in the chance you may nab someone is just as bad if it were a game where 20% of the people are Mafia. Stop it. You're wrong. So you don't agree that the clue seems to point to you? Because it's fairly suggestive... Having said that, I don't think the increased mafia will mean that the clues are nerfed, and thus we should rely on them more. What's your suggestion Ace? Who are your suspects? | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
The lynching right now doesn't feel too important to me; the main weapon to kill the mafia are the mafia themselves, for the first little bit at least. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On February 14 2010 12:11 Ace wrote: No, come up with new plans. This entire discussion around whether to use Clues on Day 1 is so revealing already. Like I said it doesn't matter how many Mafia are in the game, using Clues to catch people isn't going to change the fact that they are subjective call outs. See the point now? So basically you're innocent in the face of the only real piece of evidence we have on our lap? Ok. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
We should NEVER rely on clues are our primary weapon for catching Mafia. Remember they are based on interpretation NOT fact. This is why I said it DOES NOT MATTER how many more people in the game are Mafia, it's always going to come down to guesswork. At the very least we can focus on behavior. Look at all the people vying for clue work when it's an easily acceptable fact by anyone that has played before that it's a bad idea. I don't have any suspects, the game just started. I tend to think things out very carefully and lay traps out well in advance to see how funny people's behaviors are. | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
so x = mafia 1 y = mafia 2 z = town z is trying to kill x + y X is trying to kill y y is trying to kill x therefore z seems to have advantage? since the only time the mafia will actually try to kill townie is by "mishits" | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
On February 14 2010 12:13 L wrote: So basically you're innocent in the face of the only real piece of evidence we have on our lap? Ok. L, if Ace decides he doesn't like me remember, I'm on your side! You should tell everyone to vote for me because I was the first one to mention the obvious clues against Ace! | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
Flame war between vets o.o | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
If the clue set regarding the moonlight horseman doesn't apply to you, then who does it point to? Instead of analyse what appear to be a substantive set of clues, you've ignored them and provided the town with no content. | ||
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meeple
Canada10211 Posts
y = mafia 2 z = town z is trying to kill x + y X is trying to kill y + z y is trying to kill x + z Isn't it something more like this? | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On February 14 2010 12:19 meeple wrote: so x = mafia 1 y = mafia 2 z = town z is trying to kill x + y X is trying to kill y + z y is trying to kill x + z Isn't it something more like this? no, because the victory conditions for X/Y only rely on the other one being completely dead so Z kill X + Y X kill Y Y kill X as mentioned above | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On February 14 2010 12:17 Abenson wrote: L v Ace... Flame war between vets o.o Don't really see this being a flamewar, I'm just shocked by the fact that Ace is ignoring the game format and pretty much ignoring both the validity of day 1 clues in this format as well as the strength of the clues themselves. I'm wondering if he's hoping that I'll back off in the face of some mafia members giving him proxy support in the thread or something. | ||
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Chezinu
United States7448 Posts
On February 14 2010 12:18 L wrote: Well the fact that you didn't bother disputing the credibility of the clues when you're 100% certain that they don't point to you is interesting. If the clue set regarding the moonlight horseman doesn't apply to you, then who does it point to? Instead of analyse what appear to be a substantive set of clues, you've ignored them and provided the town with no content. There was a picture in someone's profile with a moon, a woman, and fire. I was posted earlier. Plus shadows and darkness was in Day 1 post of last game. | ||
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Abenson
Canada4122 Posts
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On February 14 2010 12:20 Chezinu wrote: There was a picture in someone's profile with a moon, a woman, and fire. I was posted earlier. Plus shadows and darkness was in Day 1 post of last game. Shadows aren't what make me think he's the horseman. Its the blinded by moonlight, him disappearing into shadows, and his radiant end. I mean, they fit perfectly with his quote. | ||
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Iaaan
Canada578 Posts
On February 14 2010 12:16 Ace wrote: We should NEVER rely on clues are our primary weapon for catching Mafia. Remember they are based on interpretation NOT fact. This is why I said it DOES NOT MATTER how many more people in the game are Mafia, it's always going to come down to guesswork. At the very least we can focus on behavior. Look at all the people vying for clue work when it's an easily acceptable fact by anyone that has played before that it's a bad idea. Clues aren't the primary weapon for catching mafia, just another tool; I can't see why you say we should completely ignore them, at a time when clues are the only thing we have. Obviously no one is going to change your mind, but your not going to stop people from talking about clues either. Its great that you've warned people to be wary of clues, but repeating it isn't really useful. | ||
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