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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 22 2009 19:15 GMT
#376
Mafia don't need to kill the DT who claimed to the fake vet, since the DT is going to see blue as red and red as blue and might actually hurt the town. Then the fake vet can gain all the information he can and win.

I guess you're correct about imba though, so I'd say that there's only one medic and one vet, but we can never be sure and if we screw up with that, we're done.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 22 2009 19:32 GMT
#378
On October 23 2009 04:26 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 04:15 Shikyo wrote:
Mafia don't need to kill the DT who claimed to the fake vet, since the DT is going to see blue as red and red as blue and might actually hurt the town. Then the fake vet can gain all the information he can and win.

I guess you're correct about imba though, so I'd say that there's only one medic and one vet, but we can never be sure and if we screw up with that, we're done.

I think if you shift medic/Vet numbers at ALL it would be imbalanced. So we can be SURE the one Vet that claims is sincere. If there are two Vets that claim we call it off and kill the Two claiming vets.

Well yeah, I can't see any other reason for different amount unless the hosts were screwing with us somehow. Especially 2 medics would be completely gamebreaking, and yeah with so little KP... I guess it could work. I highly doubt they'd have the GF claim vet though, since if the day 2 lynch turns out green, it'd be better for them if a normal mafia claimed vet because of the DT confusion. I don't think they can afford to let the town have a confirmed townie that early in the game, so I guess that's what they might be going for.

If the day2 lynch turns out to be either blue or mafia, then Mafia has no way of claiming vet without getting screwed unless it's the GF claiming... sigh my head is starting to hurt.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 22 2009 19:38 GMT
#381
On October 23 2009 04:35 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
Especially 2 medics would be completely gamebreaking,
Not really. They would all need to claim rather early, not get lynched, not get hit prior to claiming, etc.

I really don't think we should assume that we have a certain number of a role given that they have been hidden from us on purpose. It could very well be that we have 0 vets and 2 medics as far as i can tell.

I know you're right, there most likely are some roles that are completely unused. And if there are 0 vets that plan is going to backfire horribly. About medics though, well I think that having a complete autowin after lynching 2 mafia is quite imbalanced...
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 22 2009 21:16 GMT
#390
Seems like L and Ace are disagreeing. Here we go again!
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 22 2009 22:05 GMT
#395
Goes like this every game. Ace = town = win Ace = mafia = lose

since every time he runs he gets into the office even with no platform
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 22 2009 23:33 GMT
#433
On October 23 2009 08:32 HeavOnEarth wrote:
lol i googled orange and it has no rhyme. lucky me ._.

Isn't that like common knowledge? One of the few words with no rhyme ^_^

These poems are really annoying, I really don't like reading each post 5 times to see what it means.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 22 2009 23:58 GMT
#445
Now one thing we must make sure, we need to vote the least suspicious candidate to be the pardoner. A mafia pardoner would completely destroy us the moment we try to doublelynch. So I guess we need to vote in a way that ensures tricode to be the pardoner.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2009 02:05 GMT
#470
On October 23 2009 09:59 SugiuraMidori wrote:
1. Dreamflower
2. Foolishness
3. Ace <-- Acting like a non-red Ace
4. vx70GTOJudgexv <-- Acting like the blue Judge we know from before
5. RebirthofLegend <-- Small chance of being red, however, due to the poor plan to out all the Veterans and DT's.
6. Bloodyc0bbler <-- he's being an annoying senseless post-rhymer because he has nothing else useful to do for the town and just wants to be lynched out of here.
7. Incognito
8. Amber[Light] <-- Not too bright, rare posts, not massively interested in the game?
9. Pyrrhuloxia <-- too much goofing around compared to when he's red
10. L <-- Trying to rule the world, evil man, useless arguments, mafia.
11. Tricode <-- Trying to keep himself alive because he's useful, but can't be mafia cuz they'd be slapping him around for being a douche.
12. Vivi57 <-- knew far too soon that tricode was non-red
13. Infundibulum <-- acting reasonably smart.
14. Sugiuramidori <-- Me
15. Scamp
16. Shikyo <-- Not acting anything like his previous games were he wasn't red, and also it's perhaps his turn to try being red.
17. Caller
18. Motbob <-- dead man walking
19. Redtooth
20. Heavonearth
21. Chezinu <-- On and on about his stupid brown stuff, vibe I get is he's red. (no useful posts either)

This is my first list of suspects that I have gathered from reading all the posts up till now (except for the lamers and their poetry which I refuse to read from how poor it is).
List is of course incomplete.. and blue and green are potentially swappable.

Did my best at picking out the four reds, the other people would fall as either blue or green, and I'll refine the list later.[Note]: This is what I've gathered just from reading the grammar and methods of peoples speech patterns.

Well, I'd say that L has this evil ruling the world thing going in just about every mafia game he plays, so I don't know how reliable that analysis is. Otherwise most of the stuff seems to make sense, except for your apparent lack of knowledge regarding my playstyle. Tricode appeared blue to me as well.

I guess you have no opinion about incognito or Scamp, which is strange because there should be at least some material to work with.


About the elections, it seems like there was a huge voteswing at the end. That's something to keep in mind. I was planning on changing my vote if necessary, but I missed the timing and it seems like it wouldn't really have mattered, anyway. Oh well.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2009 02:19 GMT
#473
So let's see, now we kill someone and then decide who DTs check and kill that person tomorrow, right? It might also be worthwhile to compose the medic and DT lists or whatever was decided.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2009 09:43 GMT
#540
On October 23 2009 16:23 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 23 2009 16:16 Chezinu wrote:
On October 23 2009 16:03 SugiuraMidori wrote:
ƃƃ ˙spuə ʎɹʇəod əɥʇ ‎ן‎‎ן‎ıʇ uʍop əpısdn əq ‎ן‎‎ן‎ıʍ uo ʍou ɯoɹɟ ƃuıɥʇʎɹəʌə '‎ן‎‎ן‎ɐ ʇı ɟo əɔuɐʎouuɐ ɹəəɥs oʇ ənp

@Amber[Light]:: ʇəʎ ‎ן‎‎ן‎ɐ ʇɐ ɐəpı ou pɐɥ ʎəɥʇ ɟı ʞɔəɥɔ p‎ן‎noɔ ʎəɥʇ oɥʍ uo sən‎ן‎ɔ s,ʇp əɥʇ əʌıƃ ƃuıɥʇʎuɐ ɟı puɐ 'ʇdɯəʇʇɐ ʇsɹıɟ ɐ əq oʇ pıɐs sɐʍ ʇı uosɐəɹ ɐ sı əɹəɥʇ ˙ʇɹɐd ʎɯ uo suoıɔıdsns ɹo sƃuı‎ן‎ʞuı sɐʍ ʇı ɟo ɥɔnɯ uəɥʍ op oʇ pɹɐɥ sɐʍ ɥɔıɥʍ 'pəʇʇods ı sƃuıɥʇ əɥʇ ɹoɟ suosɐəɹ ppɐ oʇ ƃuıʎɹʇ ʎ‎ן‎ɹɐəɯ sɐʍ ı

For the annoyance of it all, I will type in colors till the upsidedownness ends.


¡ɹəɥʇəƃoʇ ʞɔɐq ɯəɥʇ ʎouuɐ uɐɔ əʍ 'pooƃ sı ɥɔıɥʍ 'sdoʇs ʎɹʇəod pıdnʇs əɥʇ ‎ן‎‎ן‎ıʇ doʇs ʇ,uoʍ noʎ ʎxoɹd ʎq suɐəɯ ʇɐɥʇ 'səpısəq puɐ px sɹnoʎ dn ədʎʇ oʇ sɹɐəʎ noʎ səʞɐʇ ʇı ʇəq ı 'sıɥʇ ədʎʇ oʇ ‎ן‎‎ן‎ɐ ʇɐ əɯıʇ ou əɯ səʞɐʇ ʇı 'puıɯ ʇ,uop ı

That's too troublesome to read, so from now on I'll just ignore every post of yours. Please keep that in mind if you or anyone else try to analyse my behavior or decisions or whatever. If you say something important, I sadly am going to miss it, but I can't be arsed to read that.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2009 09:46 GMT
#541
An interesting thing to note: Motbob has posted 5 times on TL after his last post about his grandfather.

Highly suspicious!!!
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2009 17:28 GMT
#549
On October 24 2009 00:20 SugiuraMidori wrote:
pəɹ sı oʎʞıɥs əıp ı ɟı ʇɐɥʇ sɐʍ 'sıuuəʇ ʎɐ‎ן‎d oʇ sɯɐəɹp ʎɯ pəpɐʌuı ɹəʌ puɐ ‎ן‎oʇɐb ɹəʇɟɐ 'ƃuıʞɐʍ ɟo əʇɐʇs snoıɔuoɔnıɯəs ɐ uı ƃuıuɹoɯ sıɥʇ pɐɥ ı uoıʇɐzı‎ן‎ɐəɹ ɐ

now they're going to kill you to get me lynched -_-;;
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2009 21:00 GMT
#559
On October 24 2009 03:16 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Shikyo has been caught
now he is getting pissed off
that he might get lynched



(haiku's > *)

I have no idea what I should say since you won't believe anything after you've set your mind on something, apparently. So I guess I don't mind if you believe I'm mafia. Let's just say that your analysis about me has really been the worst analysis I've seen from you in the games I've played with you.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 23 2009 22:17 GMT
#561
On October 24 2009 07:08 SugiuraMidori wrote:
Shikyo needs to learn
that there was a game to play
to find out his side

Shikyo I know best
so I made Shikyo my test
a circle can start

Okay~
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 24 2009 00:29 GMT
#570
On October 24 2009 08:25 Caller wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2009 04:00 Qatol wrote:
On October 24 2009 03:42 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I might have to upload an mp3 and post a song

Just as long as it's you and not Caller. My eardrums still haven't recovered from last time.......

lololololol

I've always wondered, at what point do you generally start saying something useful?
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 24 2009 01:04 GMT
#573
I don't really get
what's so cool and amazing
in silly haikus
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 24 2009 04:52 GMT
#579
On October 24 2009 13:31 L wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 24 2009 12:39 Qatol wrote:
HeavOnEarth again:


Imo motbob should be lynched, because the scenario is different now, we actually get information from his death. If he flips mafia ace is done. If he flips townie we have a good player in a protected position, and a medic can cover him all night as well. Blues can roleclaim to him and we can establish a circle of townies .

Why would motbob flipping townie confirm Ace as town?

Yes, he said he would pardon anyone who'd be lynched first day? It actually proves nothing at all. Even if its mafia, nothing points to him pardoning the mafia intentionally.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 24 2009 12:48 GMT
#587
On October 24 2009 17:27 Ace wrote:
1st of all I already posted no matter who was going up for insta lynch I was going to pardon them so motbob living or dying has no bearing on me as it doesn't hold a motive for me.

2nd if the town tries to lynch motbob tomorrow I'll pardon him because I find this "bandwagon" against him really suspect. No one has any credible motive for lynching him except "lol he hasn't posted much". The same can be said about a number of players but it seems like a few of you are trying to force it. How about instead of that, we look at the people trying to force Motbob's death and check them out instead?

I think that you're correct in that some of the people trying to, especially unreasonably, get motbob lynched might be somewhat suspicious. However, I still believe that you shouldn't pardon him, or anyone else on the second day. The DTs can use their checks now, and it definitely doesn't seem like a good idea to pardon him and delay everything for a full day. Even if motbob does turn out to be green, that gives us some definite information, gives the DTs an idea of their sanity, and lets us think about other players' attitudes about him. The rewards are higher than the losses even if he is green.

The first pardon was completely justified, but it's extremely questional to pardon someone on the second day, and would directly turn you into a top suspect along with motbob.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 24 2009 12:50 GMT
#588
Oh yes, I'll add this. The only reason for you to pardon someone on day 2 would be if you knew for certain that they were an important blue. But in this case, you should present to the town why you believe that is the case instead of using your pardon up like that. That way, we could lynch someone else and not waste another lynch.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
October 24 2009 13:06 GMT
#590
On October 24 2009 21:59 Ace wrote:
Not at all. Like I said I'm not in the business of killing someone just for the sake of information especially when that someone was bandwagonned into it, ie they are most likely innocent anyway. If you guys want to find lynch motbob someone will have to come up with a more convincing argument. Call me suspect if you want but I'm sure you know I really dont care as it won't go any ways towards painting me guilty or suspicious.

As for your second post I don't care if the person is blue. As long as they are more likely innocent than guilty I'd pardon them. The whole point of the Vet idea is to avoid having to lynch a player to verify our DTs.

Well I guess you have a point in a way, although I disagree with your opinion about the importance of information. Of course, if a better lynch candidate comes up, we could very well lynch him instead. If you believe motbob is innocent, who do you think isn't?
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