EPTDAMWON wins the 2020 World Championship - Page 4
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Uldridge
Belgium4773 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
Rooting for TL, they seem to deserve it far more than LGD and MAD. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35147 Posts
On September 27 2020 00:23 DarkCore wrote: Minor regions should be happy that their top seeds are better than EU and CN 4th seeds. Even if they don't achieve anything in the main event, knowing they're not miles behind major regions must be nice. Rooting for TL, they seem to deserve it far more than LGD and MAD. Hasn't that been the case recently anyway, with them nipping at the heels of 3 seeds? At least now we can stop hearing about super deep regions. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
Tbh I'm surprised how poorly LGD is doing. I thought they would easily make it to the main event, and get dumpstered there, but now there's a fair chance neither LGD or MAD will make it. They're going to have to play a series vs 3rd/4th in their group, and then a tough series vs 2nd seed. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
Kind of disappointing seeing this group stage that the other 4th seeds arn't around; Blaber would have had a field day with this play in groups jungle; is world's even world's without Faker? I wish we could have been able to see like Prime SKT era LCK 4th seeds like Jin Air against teams like C9, TSM, TL or even say a Dignitas... Be neat to really see how things stack up, instead of having to hear biased caster analysis from people like Yamato or LS who coming into this tournament would have had you believe that MAD / LGD were better than anyone from NA, and years past where there was this idea that NA and EU couldn't touch Korea. Maybe they could touch Korea, just not SKT, which... To be fair Korea couldn't touch SKT either. I always enjoy the play in stages the most at world's. Imo they should just double it in size. Bring first and second seeds from wild cards, bring 4th seeds from all major regions and third seeds from the two "lesser" major regions. It's like March madness, falling in love with an underdog is the best part. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On September 27 2020 03:23 iCanada wrote: I know common sentiment is that lol 4th seeds, and people don't want to see them at world's next year... But honestly I want to see every major regions 4th seeds in play ins next year along with the 2nd seeds of wildcard regions. Give us s chance to truly judge the strength and depth of regions relative to one another. Like yeah, G2 is better than all of NA by a wide margin, but they're also better than all of EU by the same margin, too. Kind of disappointing seeing this group stage that the other 4th seeds arn't around; Blaber would have had a field day with this play in groups jungle; is world's even world's without Faker? I wish we could have been able to see like Prime SKT era LCK 4th seeds like Jin Air against teams like C9, TSM, TL or even say a Dignitas... Be neat to really see how things stack up, instead of having to hear biased caster analysis from people like Yamato or LS who coming into this tournament would have had you believe that MAD / LGD were better than anyone from NA, and years past where there was this idea that NA and EU couldn't touch Korea. Maybe they could touch Korea, just not SKT, which... To be fair Korea couldn't touch SKT either. I always enjoy the play in stages the most at world's. Imo they should just double it in size. Bring first and second seeds from wild cards, bring 4th seeds from all major regions and third seeds from the two "lesser" major regions. It's like March madness, falling in love with an underdog is the best part. Let's just have every team from every league compete in play ins! jokes aside I agree that adding a couple more teams would improve play ins | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I guess it just really depends on how much time you have available, but I think it would be neat. If you didn't want to raise costs that much you could do the secondary teams you're adding in as an online play in to the play in. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On September 27 2020 04:17 iCanada wrote: I think having LGD and MAD there to contrast with makes a big difference. Idk, I think it's a nice touch, personally. I guess it just really depends on how much time you have available, but I think it would be neat. If you didn't want to raise costs that much you could do the secondary teams you're adding in as an online play in to the play in. Yeah especially for play-ins online is a super easy solution, after all it really is just a qualifier for worlds | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
I like the chance that 4th seeds have been given, but the game quality hasn't been particularly high. Play ins shouldn't be made bigger, it isn't the main focus and there are a lot of games people don't watch, either due to quality or because unknown teams. This year might be an anomaly, maybe 4th seeds from other years would have performed better, but I don't think really think it would be fun to see every year. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On September 27 2020 05:53 DarkCore wrote: Play ins is the only exposure many of the minor regions get at Worlds, making it online seems a bit disappointing for them. I like the chance that 4th seeds have been given, but the game quality hasn't been particularly high. Play ins shouldn't be made bigger, it isn't the main focus and there are a lot of games people don't watch, either due to quality or because unknown teams. This year might be an anomaly, maybe 4th seeds from other years would have performed better, but I don't think really think it would be fun to see every year. Oh I agree, im not saying that the wildcards should have to play online. I'm proposing that we get the guys who UoL, R7, legacy, and Supermassive beat, have them play online vs say Cloud9, T1, MAD, and LGD. Best of this pool gets to have MAD & LGDs spot in the play ins. My thought was just I wasn't sure how feasible it would be to have twice as many games in play ins, have riot fly in twice as many people, deal with visas etc, secure the event for longer, pay more casters... Etc. Idea would be less "take away wildcard exposure" and more "give all regions more chance at exposure." | ||
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
Hopefully, if wildcard regions do well this year Riot will scrap the format we have now and just do old TI style 2 large groups that feed into a bracket stage instead of Play Ins + Worlds, but I'm doubtful. Hypothetically speaking you could run the 12 teams current in Main Event, LCS3, PCS2, LCL1, LJL1, LLA1, CBLoL1, OPL1, TCL1, VCS1 and VCS 2 as two groups of 11, eliminate the bottom X, and have everything else feed into a (double elimination) bracket | ||
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Torchise
Canada245 Posts
Hopefully they will be more open to having some sort of double-elimination bracket since LCS and LEC both have double-elim brackets in their playoffs this year. Having teams get knocked out early but making miracle runs (e.g. TSM) is super hype plus it increases the chance that the best teams actually get to the later stages of a tournament. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
I just think it'd be cool too see every region represented equally, get a true idea of region depth and strength. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
UOL losing hard, tiebreakers are coming. Captain Snowflower not taking a breath in a 30 second fight really ruins the mood. | ||
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starkiller123
United States4030 Posts
On September 27 2020 17:52 DarkCore wrote: LGD is not good, they won because V3 did so much wrong... looks like no one is very good in this group tbh, at the very least they are all extremely inconsistent | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
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chipmonklord17
United States11944 Posts
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