Not a fan of MAD Eve pick, they don't seem to do much with it.

TL clearly better team. Like to think that if Camille didn't die those first 2 times and could push side properly it might have gone differently, but MAD had no real answer for Twitch (despite running a comp which was designed to murder him in fights).

Since 2nd seed from each group don't play each other, this doesn't change the likelihood of who makes it out. LGD won't play MAD, unless either loses again and ends up 3rd seed...

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

September 25 2020 14:07 GMT

#46

MAD losing to SuperMassive and LGD losing to UoL are both possibilities. The former moreso

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

September 25 2020 18:46 GMT

#47

Just finished watching the vods:

-Not sure on Evelynn, she’s definitely very strong but I could see her being a champ that is just significantly worse in pro. Think I’ll wait to see another team play it before putting it on the pick because MAD looked bad for several reasons.

-Lucian mid is definitely first pick material but both Lucian players greifed it today. Especially Xiye, I hate the tear build because you come online at the same time as Orianna, and Is rather have an Ori, but he Greifed it even harder going for a zeal item before IE so he’s just a tickle machine compared to his lane opponent.

-Twitch is still possibly good but I think it’s hard to say because mad was really bad, specifically when Shadow counter ganked broxah he and Kaiser let twitch tank the minion wave unmolested setting up a freeeze for himself that negated the entire lead built off the early flash force, it was a mistake you don’t even expect in solo queue, let alone worlds.

I think everything else has been said already

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

September 25 2020 19:10 GMT

#48

Eve is good in the hands of someone who can play her. She needs to be the one engaging, and Shadow + MAD didn't do that.

Gahlo

United States35172 Posts

September 25 2020 19:36 GMT

#49

Besides, once you see an Eve build Banshee's first you know she isn't going to have an impact.

starkiller123

United States4030 Posts

September 25 2020 21:31 GMT

#50

pretty fun day 1 all things considered, worlds is so fucking hype every year

Amui

Canada10567 Posts

September 26 2020 09:48 GMT

#51

Tay with the 200IQ 25 minute boot buy. 8 players with tier 2 boots and he's walking around without them lol.

Probably the most fed Shen I've ever seen in pro play. Just insane.

Uldridge

Belgium5088 Posts

September 26 2020 11:53 GMT

#52

LGD going to lose to R7?

Seems like either China is overhyped, or LGD is significantly worse than TES and JD Gaming?

Sent.

Poland9288 Posts

September 26 2020 12:19 GMT

#53

Maybe China's just like Europe or formerly NA and there's a huge gap between the best and almost best teams there

Gahlo

United States35172 Posts

September 26 2020 12:24 GMT

#54

4 deep might be too much, even for a talent rich region like China.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

September 26 2020 12:37 GMT

#55

I would still maintain that this was their best solution, assuming they refused to change format from the start like every year. A format change with 3 teams from the major regions would have been ideal, but I'll give them a COVID pass

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

September 26 2020 12:41 GMT

#56

Ahh, the Clutch Gaming take herald no matter what play

Gahlo

United States35172 Posts

September 26 2020 12:48 GMT

#57

On September 26 2020 21:37 chipmonklord17 wrote:
I would still maintain that this was their best solution, assuming they refused to change format from the start like every year. A format change with 3 teams from the major regions would have been ideal, but I'll give them a COVID pass

Yeah, I'm not going to hold it against Riot because this is a lot of decisions they're kind of being forced into. I just hope it's something they don't carry over to future Worlds.

chipmonklord17

United States11944 Posts

September 26 2020 13:02 GMT

#58

I'm like 99% certain they announced this was a result of no MSI and a one off, but admittedly am too lazy to fact check that

DarkCore

Germany4194 Posts

September 26 2020 13:22 GMT

#59

I mean, with LGD floundering like this, it's good they didn't make it straight to the main tournament, so I don't mind too much. Now I do worry that MAD is going to have to play LGD, who will suddenly decide to play better when it's their final chance. Don't forget that LGD made it to Worlds by beating an OKish WE and a dumpster fire iG. They were destroyed by SN and JDG, LGD went 0-8 vs SN this split. Top 3 CN teams should be much stronger than this. 4 teams from CN and EU does look a bit too deep though, agreed.

The top half of the CN league was fairly competitive for most of the year, but outside of TES, JDG, and SN, nobody seemed to improve much in summer. That was painfully apparent because iG was winning so much, despite having glaring weaknesses, which were exposed when LGD beat them in 2 Bo5 by playing fairly normal.