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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 05 2020 13:16 GMT
#261
That FLY game was the biggest fiesta of the tournament, Solo did everything he possibly could to lose that game.

TES and DRX bringing out the cool picks, Noc Quinn and Draven.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 05 2020 13:38 GMT
#262
Deft's Draven build is one of Boris' best heists I've seen in a while
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 05 2020 13:45 GMT
#263
Now that's a good game of league
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-05 13:48:50
October 05 2020 13:45 GMT
#264
On October 05 2020 22:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Deft's Draven build is one of Boris' best heists I've seen in a while

Boris plaguing DRX is honestly not a surprise lol, in fact the whole LCK has suffered from his reign (apart from Damwon)
Faker is the GOAT!
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-05 13:52:05
October 05 2020 13:51 GMT
#265
On October 05 2020 22:45 AzAlexZ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2020 22:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Deft's Draven build is one of Boris' best heists I've seen in a while

Boris plaguing Deft and DRX is not a surprise lol


I just don't understand what its supposed to do. Like I get when a team builds 2-3 Cleavers because it might be good on all of the champs building them, but I'd still consider that getting Boris'ed. But this build just doesn't accomplish anything. So you do no damage because you have tear, then you go the lethality item that gets its power from 1v1s? Why though? If you want lethality so badly just go ghost blade or edge of night for their passives, or skip the whole thing and go tear -> BT/IE, or for fucks sake skip the tear and lethality all together like a normal person on Draven
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 05 2020 14:36 GMT
#266
That was a fun game, agreed. The Noc pick was pretty smart, it came after DRX showed TF (the main counter) and then Quinn (she can't really split when Noc is missing, completely negates her power as a Renekton counter).

Idk how Draven lost the lane so hard, they didn't show much of the lane, except a few early engages which Draven somehow lost. Also Deft running OOM felt like he isn't too comfortable on the champ (has the mechanics, but Draven is so hard you only really see OTP play him). Then he went for that Draven build nobody really understands except that it sucks when behind.

Think if DRX wasn't baited into Quinn then the game would've looked better, but then TES probably wouldn't have drafted Noc mid, so the point is kind of moot.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
October 05 2020 15:16 GMT
#267
On October 05 2020 22:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2020 22:45 AzAlexZ wrote:
On October 05 2020 22:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Deft's Draven build is one of Boris' best heists I've seen in a while

Boris plaguing Deft and DRX is not a surprise lol


I just don't understand what its supposed to do. Like I get when a team builds 2-3 Cleavers because it might be good on all of the champs building them, but I'd still consider that getting Boris'ed. But this build just doesn't accomplish anything. So you do no damage because you have tear, then you go the lethality item that gets its power from 1v1s? Why though? If you want lethality so badly just go ghost blade or edge of night for their passives, or skip the whole thing and go tear -> BT/IE, or for fucks sake skip the tear and lethality all together like a normal person on Draven

I didn't watch the game so I dont know how it played out.

But the Muramana->(any)Lethality item is the highest DPS build in early to midgame for Draven. The "normal" build need at least 3 complete items before it's even to the Muramana build. The midgame build's items are significantly cheaper so you can pivot into a crit build after the two first items. Much stronger early game weaker lategame.

I suppose their gameplan was to win early or get an insurmountable lead in the midgame to let another lane carry the late. If he went tear first... Then yeah... If you cannot afford the Pickaxe on first back then just abandon the idea and go for regular build.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5107 Posts
October 05 2020 21:33 GMT
#268
DRX lost because they didn't respect Senna range and slow. Too bad for that. Chovy showing some fancy feet though.
Doran not being able to snowball his lane, was kind of sad to watch.
Taxes are for Terrans
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-05 22:47:14
October 05 2020 22:45 GMT
#269
On October 06 2020 00:16 Jek wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2020 22:51 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On October 05 2020 22:45 AzAlexZ wrote:
On October 05 2020 22:38 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Deft's Draven build is one of Boris' best heists I've seen in a while

Boris plaguing Deft and DRX is not a surprise lol


I just don't understand what its supposed to do. Like I get when a team builds 2-3 Cleavers because it might be good on all of the champs building them, but I'd still consider that getting Boris'ed. But this build just doesn't accomplish anything. So you do no damage because you have tear, then you go the lethality item that gets its power from 1v1s? Why though? If you want lethality so badly just go ghost blade or edge of night for their passives, or skip the whole thing and go tear -> BT/IE, or for fucks sake skip the tear and lethality all together like a normal person on Draven

I didn't watch the game so I dont know how it played out.

But the Muramana->(any)Lethality item is the highest DPS build in early to midgame for Draven. The "normal" build need at least 3 complete items before it's even to the Muramana build. The midgame build's items are significantly cheaper so you can pivot into a crit build after the two first items. Much stronger early game weaker lategame.

I suppose their gameplan was to win early or get an insurmountable lead in the midgame to let another lane carry the late. If he went tear first... Then yeah... If you cannot afford the Pickaxe on first back then just abandon the idea and go for regular build.


But he was getting dunked on all game. Like sure go pickaxe first and see where it goes, but after you aren't winning bail out and just IE rush so you're useful. Taking what you're saying as absolute fact, he sacrificed the late game to win the early game...without winning the early game. And beyond that, the lethality item he chose was the 1v1 item whos name I can't remember. If it was ghost blade or edge of night for their passives I could maybe give it a pass, but it just felt like he was doing nothing the entire game. The build didn't match the champ identity or state of the game.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-05 22:58:22
October 05 2020 22:52 GMT
#270
It absolutely matches the champion identity to build for lane what are you talking about? Not getting an advantage as Draven into Senna is a piloting problem, it’s not a item or champion problem

Before the tear/leathality build the most popular first item on Draven was BT unless you were snowballed out of your mind and could full complete IE on 2nd back. The tear into sanguine build is just a significantly higher dps variation on the same build.

This is how Draven has always been played and surely it’s partially why he’s rare in pro play, but this build is just flat out a buffed version of the traditional BT Rush Draven build . And if you think your Draven is good enough to punish a Senna pick in lane it’s perfectly fine, it was a piloting problem.
Carrilord has arrived.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-05 23:42:21
October 05 2020 23:39 GMT
#271
Disregard me I forgot how to read.

Although I will say the "real" Draven build is still BT-> IE if u.gg is to be trusted
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 06 2020 00:03 GMT
#272
It’s definitely contentious, I know PSZ for example still does BT first. But the goal of the Bt build and the lethality build are the same, the lethality version is just significantly more gold efficient
Carrilord has arrived.
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-06 08:00:51
October 06 2020 07:57 GMT
#273
I have seen many players on KR and super server streams build like Deft, it seems to be an Eastern thing. You can kind of see that when on your site too, although the Master+ sample sizes for Draven are very small tbh.

From his interview, Deft reveals he has back problems, and that probably affects his play. He also mentions that he practiced a lot of Draven, but not specifically vs Senna, and basically learned from the game that it's a bad matchup. Since he suggested the pick, he feels the loss was his fault and seemed pretty upset. He kind of hints at it, but this game was mainly lost in the draft phase, the Draven pick flopped and the surprise Noc pick nullified TF and Quinn. I still think they have a decent chance to beat TES in the next game, their rookies looked solid, Chovy can lane kingdom even someone like Knight, and Deft's mechanics were on point despite the poor performance.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5107 Posts
October 06 2020 08:15 GMT
#274
Seems like an int comp by G2.. could be a spicy game actually lol
Taxes are for Terrans
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 06 2020 08:21 GMT
#275
Yeah, this is starting to look like the infamous G2 int game.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5107 Posts
October 06 2020 08:35 GMT
#276
Kalista Sett seems like a fun bot combo by the way. Also, Impact seemed like he got blasted by Wunder? 60 cs in 20 minutes is not a small feat.
Taxes are for Terrans
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-10-06 08:44:34
October 06 2020 08:41 GMT
#277
On October 06 2020 17:35 Uldridge wrote:
Kalista Sett seems like a fun bot combo by the way. Also, Impact seemed like he got blasted by Wunder? 60 cs in 20 minutes is not a small feat.

Intentional trade off for the 50 cs lead for Tactical during the mid game that is actually doing something for them now.
Faker is the GOAT!
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
October 06 2020 08:43 GMT
#278
Nice job TL! It looks like they finally learned something from the spanking they've been receiving the last two games. Good early game, nice transition into mid, and contesting opponent jungle when they have tempo.
darkness overpowering
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 06 2020 08:44 GMT
#279
Seems like NA 2-1 EU in Worlds
Faker is the GOAT!
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 06 2020 08:48 GMT
#280
Has any team that wins a lv 1 fight lost a game so far? Not a fan of games snowballing out of control within the first 3 minutes of the game. Although this was mostly G2 forcing bad plays non stop, pretty poor play.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
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