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AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 17:40:46
October 20 2019 17:33 GMT
#581
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Que Sera Sera
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4131 Posts
October 20 2019 17:34 GMT
#582
Very good/entertaining draft imo. SKT will beat any team anyway and Splyce are free elo so matching them makes all the rest extremely interesting and hard to predict
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9244 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 17:35:51
October 20 2019 17:35 GMT
#583
SKT's match is the only no brainer I think.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
October 20 2019 17:42 GMT
#584
who is FPX paying for these draws
Carrilord has arrived.
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4131 Posts
October 20 2019 17:42 GMT
#585
On October 21 2019 02:35 Sent. wrote:
SKT's match is the only no brainer I think.

There were two possible no brainers. SKT will win vs anyone and Splyce will lose vs anyone, fortunately they merged into one, so we are left with 3 possible entertaining quarters instead of just 2
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 20 2019 17:45 GMT
#586
Fnatic wins worlds if G2 stops SKT before the finals
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 20 2019 17:45 GMT
#587
RIP SPLYCE
Faker is the GOAT!
starkiller123
Profile Joined January 2016
United States4030 Posts
October 20 2019 19:41 GMT
#588
On October 21 2019 02:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Fnatic wins worlds if G2 stops SKT before the finals

Fnatic loses to FPX regardless of what happens in the other series
loSleb
Profile Joined December 2010
Austria1389 Posts
October 20 2019 19:48 GMT
#589
TL fans at world's WeirdChamp.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 20 2019 20:21 GMT
#590
On October 21 2019 04:41 starkiller123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2019 02:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Fnatic wins worlds if G2 stops SKT before the finals

Fnatic loses to FPX regardless of what happens in the other series



FPX is the second worst team in the bracket behind Splyce
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9244 Posts
October 20 2019 21:05 GMT
#591
On October 21 2019 02:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Fnatic wins worlds if G2 stops SKT before the finals


Where does this faith in Fnatic come from? My impression was that they're really good only if things go along their very specific game plan. If that plan doesn't work, I think they most likely won't adapt fast enough to beat the team that was good enough to beat their initial game plan.

I'll probably bet on Fnatic, but wouldn't be that surprised if FPX manages to beat them with clever drafts.
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 20 2019 21:32 GMT
#592
Nice bracket for EU and viewers:

- Splyce get blasted by SKT, means we won't have a finalist contender drop out in their first series
- Fnatic has a good chance vs FPX, curious how they perform. If Lwx actually plays well and we get to see FPX macro for real, will be a tough game, but probably easier opponent than GRF.
- Group of death rewards Fnatic with not having to play vs SKT until finals.
- Similarly, G2 should probably be happy that they were garaunteed to not face GRF, who looked way stronger than DWG by the end of groups. And both EU hopefuls aren't on the same side of the bracket.
- iG is probably going to get destroyed by GRF, unless the lanes can carry their heavy junglers. But it could happen, iG have started to find form again, and GRF might make the mistake of trying to force mechanical out plays.

My most likely finals would be SKT vs GRF, followed by G2 vs GRF.
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Jek
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Denmark2771 Posts
October 20 2019 22:34 GMT
#593
Kinda sad it's FPX vs FNC. I wanted both to go all the way. :'(

The victor of this match will claim the trophy. Mark my words.
It's Elo not ELO - Every statiscian playing League
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 22:51:23
October 20 2019 22:49 GMT
#594
On October 21 2019 06:05 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 21 2019 02:45 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Fnatic wins worlds if G2 stops SKT before the finals


Where does this faith in Fnatic come from? My impression was that they're really good only if things go along their very specific game plan. If that plan doesn't work, I think they most likely won't adapt fast enough to beat the team that was good enough to beat their initial game plan.

I'll probably bet on Fnatic, but wouldn't be that surprised if FPX manages to beat them with clever drafts.


A few things

First, their play during playoffs, they fell just short of winning the split and played amazingly well.

Second, FPX was by far the shakiest first seed team and had by far the easiest group of the tournament, compared to Fnatic who was in the hardest group of the tournament. This has me pretty confident that Fnatic should win the round of 8.

Third, I don't trust Griffin in bo5 at all and neither should anyone else. They've been a categorically terrible team in best of 5 and that was when they had a coach. Sure they placed first in their group by smashing their final day, but I don't know how well that translates into a best of 5, so I expect iG to take that one. iG aren't quite in their worlds winning form and Fnatic proved last year they could stand with them until they got fully rolling.

Fourth, they have G2 to beat SKT before the finals. I don't think any team at the tournament will beat SKT if SKT makes it to the finals.

Finally, their mentality. Before the finals last year, Rookie said something to the effect of "What it comes to now is who wants to win more, and right now, that's us". Rekkles was talking in his winner's interview that the team finally started playing to win, and not playing because they're fearing losing. So I think if that's real and not just talk, they won't get stopped this time.*

*Other than SKT who are on another level at world's finals
amd098
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Korea (North)1366 Posts
October 20 2019 23:48 GMT
#595
On October 21 2019 02:12 Alaric wrote:
Why do IG have Qiyana, Vlad and Kai'Sa in the same draft?


Cuz we can't play Qiyana in either mid or jg, so like last year when C9 had to must ban Irelia or Akali, if we use other bans we have to give it up as we can't take it.
North Korea is best Korea!
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 21 2019 06:37 GMT
#596
TL's inflexibility was such an issue. Jensen was up against some really good midlaners in this group and he just fell back to LB and didn't really do much on a pick that needs to command the map for the first 25 mins of the game,

I think Xmithie played as well as expected other than the misplay bot in the IG game which sucked. Impact had a worse second week. But the big thing for me was that CoreJJ didn't play all that well in Worlds and MSI. Obviously offers a lot in shotcalling but his individual play was lacking.
Que Sera Sera
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-21 19:10:43
October 21 2019 19:08 GMT
#597
My Pick em's:

Quarter-finals
Griffin 3-1 IG
FPX 3-1 FNC
G2 3-2 Damwon
SKT 3-1(or 3-0) Splyce

Semi-finals
Griffin 3-1 FPX
SKT 3-1 G2

Finals
SKT 3-1 Griffin
Faker is the GOAT!
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9244 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-25 23:51:08
October 25 2019 23:37 GMT
#598
My Pick em's:

Quarters
Griffin vs IG
FPX vs FNC
G2 vs Damwon
SKT vs Splyce

Semis
Griffin vs FNC
SKT vs G2

Finals
SKT vs Griffin

I'm quite confident about G2 and SKT, but can't say the same about the top bracket. Griffin should beat IG. No idea about Fnatic, they can get 3:0d by FPX or win their semifinal 3:0.
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DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-26 07:41:25
October 26 2019 07:40 GMT
#599
Real shame I can't see GRF live today, hopefully I get back before FNC (so iG drag this out to 5 games plz). Picks:
GRF
FPX (believe in doinb dark technologies, else 3:1 FNC)
G2
SKT
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4131 Posts
October 26 2019 10:44 GMT
#600
not sure about pick ems, but I prefer IG to Griffin, so we are guaranteed a non all korean final, otherwise I dont really care, I just want good games, then normally g2 and fnatic, I will also root for splyce but this is so doomed that its better off to say SKT :-)
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
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