• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:56
CET 20:56
KST 04:56
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)15Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1831
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets When will we find out if there are more tournament SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list?
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship SC2 AI Tournament 2026 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) $25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs?
Tourneys
Small VOD Thread 2.0 [Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1205 users

FunPlus Phoenix Wins Worlds 2019 - Page 28

Forum Index > LoL Tournaments
Post a Reply
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 52 Next
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9267 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 13:17:34
October 20 2019 13:14 GMT
#541
TL brains so big

Spoke too soon
You're now breathing manually
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4133 Posts
October 20 2019 13:20 GMT
#542
so they lost 4 people vs 1 in a 5v4 fight where they also had an early advantage with early stronger champions - ok
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 20 2019 13:43 GMT
#543
Damwon jersey's are awful
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9267 Posts
October 20 2019 14:05 GMT
#544
Is it the first Garen-less Yuumi in the group stage?
You're now breathing manually
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5006 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 14:27:10
October 20 2019 14:26 GMT
#545
Imagine a Yuumi/Karma/Lulu/Ivern/Hyperscaling adc comp.
Taxes are for Terrans
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 20 2019 15:00 GMT
#546
I don't really like this iG draft tbh
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
October 20 2019 15:10 GMT
#547
And all of a sudden, Akali has 3 kills..
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
October 20 2019 15:21 GMT
#548
On October 20 2019 21:51 Sakray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2019 07:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:
And Fnatic is legit one of the best teams on the planet, I think they could win the whole thing.


Woah-woah hold on there pal
+ Show Spoiler +

Did we really watch the same games ? Fnatic has definitely not been impressive at all during group stage. Their 2 games against CG were painful to watch, definitely far from what they showed during LEC, the win against SKT I only saw some parts but SKT seemed too confident after their qualification, taking unnecessary dives and risks (jesus christ that Akali dive on Veigar, wtf went through Faker's mind).

And the win versus RNG, honestly it seemed like all teams from group stages would have won as easily. RNG literally threw the game in champ select and refused to play the game at all, they never contested anything, they just offered the game to FNC it was painful to watch (Xiaohu least damage of the game as Ryze just how).
Hylissang is a really good Pyke player, but what made him shine this game is just how passive RNG was, he could get away with pretty much everything he wanted.

Now don't get me wrong, FNC did improve since first round : Rekkles stopped trolling by playing mages, and they made some good plays/decision making during the 2nd RNG game. They knew botlane was free (poke vs kill lane) and toplane was of least importance (I mean, they both were useless that game, with a little advantage for FNC with GP's ult), so Broxah focused on ganking bot to both get Rekkles and Hyli going while shutting down Uzi even more than their comp did.
The way they also managed to get going while avoiding pretty much every teamfight (up until their lead was too much) was brillantly executed, thus really preventing RNG from any chance of winning (well not like they already had 5% of winning after champ select).

Frankly all their games were disappointing, it feels like it was more their opponent losing the game than them winning it
.


Regarding the games vs CG, EU has a strong tendency to play fiesta games vs weaker teams. NA too if I remember correctly from last year play ins.

There is also the aspect that even if people call Worlds stacked this year, there are still only a handful of teams that you could legit put over a stumbling FNC. The fact stands, Fnatic managed to take a convincing game off SKT, something RNG was not capable of. I won't get out my tin foil hat and accuse SKT of intentionally losing, and while I can imagine SKT didn't take the game too seriously since they basically had 1st seed in the bag, they did seem to be trying. The botched dive in mid lane on Broxah/Nemesis is exactly the kind of play that currently separates world class teams from everyone else, riskier plays with big rewards are meta. That is also exactly why SKT struggled at the start of the year, every iteration of the team has gravitated towards calculated plays and solid macro, took them forever to finally pull off those kinds of proactive plays properly, and imo they still make mistakes when they force situations, hence GRF can take games off them.

Surprised iG decided to bring in Ning, Leyen isn't perfect but I don't think he's the problem either. iG looks to be hoping that TheShy will just destroy Nuguri in the split push, which honestly isn't a bad idea.
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 20 2019 15:30 GMT
#549
The most fiesta baron play seen outside of NA LCS
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9267 Posts
October 20 2019 15:32 GMT
#550
On October 20 2019 07:30 Sent. wrote:
Changed my DWG vs IG bet from IG win to DWG win. I'm on the Korean hype train now.


Choo choo!
You're now breathing manually
AdsMoFro
Profile Joined January 2015
Japan4761 Posts
October 20 2019 15:32 GMT
#551
Nuclear: I heard y'all were talking shit.
Que Sera Sera
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
October 20 2019 15:33 GMT
#552
TL bout to get eliminated.
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
October 20 2019 15:38 GMT
#553
On October 21 2019 00:33 Gahlo wrote:
TL bout to get eliminated.


I can't believe anyone thought differently
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4133 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 16:13:04
October 20 2019 16:12 GMT
#554
Well the group developed into the best possible scenario for TL to qualify (excluding some miraculous scenarios) so lets have faith
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-10-20 16:28:02
October 20 2019 16:25 GMT
#555
On October 20 2019 10:11 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 20 2019 08:00 AzAlexZ wrote:
On October 20 2019 02:55 chipmonklord17 wrote:
On October 12 2019 09:41 AzAlexZ wrote:
On October 12 2019 07:10 chipmonklord17 wrote:
Spicy predictions before group stage starts
1) Europe will be the only region with all 3 advancing to the round of 8
2) LMS winrate combined wouldn't get them out of any group in 2nd
3) Clutch won't get enough wins to get out, but will get enough wins to fuck over who goes into the top 2 and who actually gets 1st

bruh, there's no way that Fnatic gets out of groups.
Also Spylce probably won't either


You got me. I underestimated the power of week 2 EU
also LCK has a chance to have 3 teams out of groups


Yeah I totally didn't expect C9 to have their worst world's performance in franchise history. I'd laugh fucking hard if TL knocks DWG out so I still end up being right accidentally.

And honestly I don't think it was EU week 2 as much as Splyce was a shoe in, JT and GAM should have been absolutely free and its embarrassing they dropped maps to them at all. And Fnatic is legit one of the best teams on the planet, I think they could win the whole thing.

lol you were wrong in your number 1 guess too, as Korea one-ups EU by having all 3 teams go in as the first seed, while EU only get second seeds
Faker is the GOAT!
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4133 Posts
October 20 2019 16:30 GMT
#556
when is the draw for the quarters?
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
AzAlexZ
Profile Joined September 2016
Australia3303 Posts
October 20 2019 16:33 GMT
#557
On October 21 2019 01:30 M2 wrote:
when is the draw for the quarters?

after this game
Faker is the GOAT!
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
October 20 2019 16:35 GMT
#558
Unless there's a tiebreaker.
Uldridge
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Belgium5006 Posts
October 20 2019 16:36 GMT
#559
Very strange how GRF and DWG turned on action mode after becoming boring. GRF was calculated, but slow, doesn't seem to be the case any more. And DWG looked like being boring too, but they've thrown it all out of the window to start demolishing.. Weird.
Taxes are for Terrans
M2
Profile Joined December 2002
Bulgaria4133 Posts
October 20 2019 16:39 GMT
#560
On October 21 2019 01:35 Gahlo wrote:
Unless there's a tiebreaker.

no tiebreak, this is the last game, regardless of the outcome, whoever wins-qualify
Knife kitty, night kitty, put you on a slab. Stealthy kitty, hunter kitty, stab stab stab :-)
Prev 1 26 27 28 29 30 52 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 16h 4m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 337
IndyStarCraft 158
UpATreeSC 155
BRAT_OK 99
JuggernautJason71
SC2Nice 40
MindelVK 19
Railgan 15
White-Ra 2
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 2108
Shuttle 637
Dewaltoss 129
firebathero 83
Killer 34
910 29
HiyA 14
NaDa 6
Dota 2
qojqva2716
League of Legends
rGuardiaN17
Counter-Strike
fl0m3509
pashabiceps1217
byalli439
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu438
Other Games
Grubby2905
Liquid`RaSZi2091
FrodaN1500
Fnx 1390
Fuzer 274
ArmadaUGS175
DeMusliM103
QueenE100
XaKoH 95
KnowMe90
Mew2King66
ToD29
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick2507
StarCraft 2
angryscii 14
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 14
• 80smullet 12
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Nemesis2835
• Shiphtur379
Other Games
• imaqtpie1616
Upcoming Events
OSC
16h 4m
SKillous vs ArT
ArT vs Babymarine
NightMare vs TriGGeR
YoungYakov vs TBD
All Star Teams
1d 6h
INnoVation vs soO
Serral vs herO
Cure vs Solar
sOs vs Scarlett
Classic vs Clem
Reynor vs Maru
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 16h
AI Arena Tournament
2 days
All Star Teams
2 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Wardi Open
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-14
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
SC2 All-Star Inv. 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.