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On October 16 2018 07:06 AlterKot wrote:
I'm still sad to see VIT lose yesterday. I don't think it was a "fluke" or that they "should" play better, but I think they could play better and they simply lost their nerves against C9 (on top of getting outsmarted in draft and gameplan).
C9 drafted better in almost every single game in their group. Impressed with Reaper's p/b. He's got a really strong grasp on the meta.
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On October 13 2018 04:03 Haasts wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2018 22:56 Gahlo wrote:
So it's pretty clear iG, RNG, and KT are the only real competition for the cup this year. I have my fingers crossed for a strong Flash Wolves showing as well, but yeah, looking forward to some great Bo5s.
FML. Pouring one out for SwordArt &c; not sure what the LMS coaches are up to wrt/ picks & bans, eesh.
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On October 16 2018 09:31 AdsMoFro wrote:Show nested quote +On October 16 2018 07:06 AlterKot wrote:
I'm still sad to see VIT lose yesterday. I don't think it was a "fluke" or that they "should" play better, but I think they could play better and they simply lost their nerves against C9 (on top of getting outsmarted in draft and gameplan). C9 drafted better in almost every single game in their group. Impressed with Reaper's p/b. He's got a really strong grasp on the meta.
Reapared has widened the gap between him and the other coaches so ridiculously far.
I think the best thing C9 LoL team has done since its inception was getting Reapered and allowing him to take control of the team the way he has right now. It is the only team I can think of right now in NA where the coach has more power than any player(s) and he is using that power well.
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Well that was a pretty clear indicator TL is fucked, as if they weren't already.
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Some casters are acting like they've never seen Kaisa damage before. It's quite annoying.
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Is there a reason why people don't build an early Bramble Vest in lane vs Urgot? Gives a decent amount of armor and his W is 3.0AS with weak attacks to reflect damage from + cut his refill sustain.
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Were any of the games against mad team worth watching?
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I really like the runaan's buy by Iboy. Kaisa is low ranged and you can generally expect to be hitting multiple targets with the hurricane bolt procs.
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On October 16 2018 20:45 nineninja9 wrote:
I really like the runaan's buy by Iboy. Kaisa is low ranged and you can generally expect to be hitting multiple targets with the hurricane bolt procs.
Yeah with the nerfs, it becomes more viable. Before, AP was just too good. Man, this game must be depressing for TL. Hyping yourself up for a tournament-defining game only to be deflated.
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Oh look, TL finally showing life when it doesn't matter anymore.
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On the bright side I aced pick’ems for this group. Not much consolation for TL being eliminated, but better than nothing I guess.
Also:
TL beats EDG today
EDG beats KT
So once KT win worlds, transitivity tells us TL is the best team in the world.
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I'm not really sure who I want to win out of teams that are left, I guess I would prefer iG winning the whole thing.
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I'm hoping deep down that Fnatic somehow clinch first spot, because then we might see them in the final 4. Unless they get AF, because they look absolutely beatable.
From what I've seen so far, top 4 for me this tournament:
1. iG
2. KT
3. RNG
4. VIT (when you average their performance out, they had incredible highs but too many lows)
5. FNC (4th since still in tournament, also not enough games to truly assess)
KT and iG are the juggernauts, I don't mind KT stumbling because that's what they do best, but now they only play series. RNG has also shown weakness, but VIT playstyle is unique and the Zilean comp caught them off guard. VIT is out, FNC has yet to show how good they really are, I honestly think they can beat iG in the next game, just not in a series. In that regard, ending up in the group with iG is actually a good thing.
Not expecting much from C9, because Zilean is going to be banned every game, and their bot lane just isn't going to cut it against iG and KT, FNC would probably dump on them too. Jensen and Licorice are going to have back problems after the tournament, their drafting is good though.
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Yeah I think bo1s made Vitality look better than they really are. It's sad to see them go because their games were fun to watch, not because they're as good as IG, RNG or (hopefully) FNC.
If KT gets G2 I might just skip the match, watching G2 get 3:0d in uneventful games would be a waste of time.
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I think VIT could have beaten C9 in a series, not the other top teams though. The reason being that while Reapered is obviously a great drafter, they won because Zilean completely dumps on VIT playstyle and comps, and they weren't prepared for it (neither was RNG, they almost lost to it in the tiebreaker). I also think RNG was tilted so hard after the loss to VIT, they played poorly for the rest of the day until the tiebreaker. Maybe I'm just being harsh on C9.
I think T1 would be iG and KT, RNG doesn't quite fit there because they had some poor games (again, feel it was mostly tilt because they didn't expect their group to be so hard).
If KT gets G2 I might just skip the match, watching G2 get 3:0d in uneventful games would be a waste of time.
Pretty sure KT/iG are going to destroy the second seeded team they get, the real question is if they meet semi finals or finals.
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Yes how could VIT have prepared for Jensens most played champion this split.
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Just because you know it's coming doesn't mean you have an answer for it. You think FW didn't know Heimerdinger was going to be picked by G2? They drafted Morde as a counterpick and still lost to it. The real solution was to ban it, but hindsight is always 20/20.
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On October 17 2018 01:42 DarkCore wrote:
I think VIT could have beaten C9 in a series, not the other top teams though. The reason being that while Reapered is obviously a great drafter, they won because Zilean completely dumps on VIT playstyle and comps, and they weren't prepared for it (neither was RNG, they almost lost to it in the tiebreaker). I also think RNG was tilted so hard after the loss to VIT, they played poorly for the rest of the day until the tiebreaker. Maybe I'm just being harsh on C9.
I think T1 would be iG and KT, RNG doesn't quite fit there because they had some poor games (again, feel it was mostly tilt because they didn't expect their group to be so hard).
If C9 were to play a bo5 against Vitality I'd bet on C9. I know it was just a one game but I think the fact that Zilean shut them down so hard signals they're either only good at one strat which happens to be hard countered by Zilean or bad at preparation. NA Zilean shouldn't be a surprise to them and yet they seemed completely clueless on how to beat C9 in that game. I think it would only get worse for Vitality if C9 had more time to find and exploit their weaknesses in a series. Weaknesses like Kikis, who tends to get overagressive early, which Sven should be able to punish with the support of his team.
Show nested quote +If KT gets G2 I might just skip the match, watching G2 get 3:0d in uneventful games would be a waste of time. Pretty sure KT/iG are going to destroy the second seeded team they get, the real question is if they meet semi finals or finals.
Yeah that goes without saying. I meant that the match is going to be as boring as G2 vs Afreeca and TL vs KT games where the Korean teams were clearly winning the macro game while their opponents showed little initiative to get back into the game.
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