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Poopi
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No team seemed utterly dominant so far. | ||
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nineninja9
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AdsMoFro
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You mean Hjarnan on the Donger. | ||
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JimmiC
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AdsMoFro
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On October 17 2018 22:25 JimmiC wrote: If you are a one seed you do not want to be matched up with whoever loses this! I think G2 are a scary second seed as well. Realistically the best two seeds to face are EDG and C9. | ||
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JimmiC
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JimmiC
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nineninja9
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AdsMoFro
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On October 17 2018 22:52 nineninja9 wrote: I feel like playing a non tank toplane is just a super arrogant move in general. You're basically saying we'll win earlygame and win it by enough to win by 30 minutes, otherwise the game is basically impossible unless you pull an RNG. It's fine as long as you have a lead and an Alistar. Leo Too squishy to frontline. I mean, the real problem is they had a huge mid advantage and a good ADC matchup, but bot inted and Ning got outpathed super hard. Unlucky. | ||
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JimmiC
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chipmonklord17
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nineninja9
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On October 17 2018 22:54 AdsMoFro wrote: It's fine as long as you have a lead and an Alistar. Leo Too squishy to frontline. I mean, the real problem is they had a huge mid advantage and a good ADC matchup, but bot inted and Ning got outpathed super hard. Unlucky. Yeah I really dislike Leona as a pick in general. You're basically saying we wanted Alistar but it was banned, so we'll take the vastly inferior Leona because we can't adapt in pick/bans at all. Also IG botlane inting is pretty predictable, they play up 100% of the time essentially, it's up to Ning to keep them safe and he was outjungled twice. Both games were basically jungle difference to an extreme degree. | ||
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JimmiC
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AdsMoFro
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On October 17 2018 22:58 JimmiC wrote: The one thing we have to keep in mind is Grex and 100T were the easiest bottom 2 of any group. So that alone will make IG and Fnatic look better. I think they are good but having the 4 easy games for each team helped them look amazing. IG was also SUPER overrated coming into Worlds. They're not that good. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
IG was also SUPER overrated coming into Worlds. They're not that good. I don't agree with this at all, iG played very well, hence they dumpstered GREX and 100T. Were they the weakest seeds in any group? Pretty close, only MAD looked equally as bad, and PVB/FW/TL were clearly not contenders either. But I think they could have taken games off teams that weren't as strong as FNC and iG. iG's laners are all beasts in the lane, that spells the end for most low level teams. They also have pretty good team fighting, simply because they are all mechanically talented and don't hesitate when they pull the trigger. Their weaknesses stem from the fact that Jackey doesn't have consistently insane reflexes like iBoy (he got caught with flash loads of time by FNC in both games) so his ballsy play ends up costing him, and sometimes they think they can just bruteforce games open with their ability, instead of playing like a team. But when those things don't happen, they are a contender for Worlds, 100%. | ||
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AdsMoFro
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On October 18 2018 00:09 DarkCore wrote: LOLOL, iG vs KT have to duke it out in the quarter finals, this is the best timeline. My 3 top teams are on one side of the bracket, the other 4 must be crying rivers of joy right now. I don't agree with this at all, iG played very well, hence they dumpstered GREX and 100T. Were they the weakest seeds in any group? Pretty close, only MAD looked equally as bad, and PVB/FW/TL were clearly not contenders either. But I think they could have taken games off teams that weren't as strong as FNC and iG. iG's laners are all beasts in the lane, that spells the end for most low level teams. They also have pretty good team fighting, simply because they are all mechanically talented and don't hesitate when they pull the trigger. Their weaknesses stem from the fact that Jackey doesn't have consistently insane reflexes like iBoy (he got caught with flash loads of time by FNC in both games) so his ballsy play ends up costing him, and sometimes they think they can just bruteforce games open with their ability, instead of playing like a team. But when those things don't happen, they are a contender for Worlds, 100%. So wait, you're saying something that happens pretty consistently in the LPL (Jackeylove inting), won't happen and then they can magically win Worlds. Yeah sure, hasn't happened yet. Of course, IG are gonna win cause they have better laners vs shit teams? What kind of logic is that? Guess what? The knockout stage doesn't have any shit teams. They just fucked themselves into a super bad bracket because of the inconsistencies that have plagued them for an entire season. Rookie smashed lane and should have easily been able to bring that advantage to the side lanes but Ning got outpathed and Jackeylove inted. Jackeylove's going up against Deft and Mata (a bot lane that IMO is one of the best laning duo in the world) and Ning's playing against the best jungler in the world. Don't see it being magically fixed in 2 days. KT are easily the worst stylistic matchup for IG of the teams they could have faced. Unlucky, easy win for KT. | ||
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General_Winter
United States719 Posts
KT is to a large extent just a better version of IG, a bunch of individual all stars and mechanical beasts. Yeah IG has better mid, but KT has better bot lane, and bot lane is OP now and has been most of the year. | ||
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nineninja9
United States194 Posts
The only way IG beats KT is if Score and Deft both megachoke, and even then it would still probably require both Ning and Jackeylove to play better than average. | ||
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DarkCore
Germany4194 Posts
I never said iG were better than KT, which is basically what your whole paragraph is about. I expect them to get dumped on, but there isn't another team in the world besides KT that can do it (in a series). RNG have been playing these guys for a whole year, and they can barely manage it. FNC might be able to, we saw it today, but they didn't look vastly superior. I don't know what to expect from AF this year. A contender for me is someone who can make it to the finals: iG could absolutely make it to the finals, if they didn't end up against KT. SSG got bopped in their group last year and had to go through a hellish bracket too, then destroyed a flimsy SKT. If iG manage to beat KT, they could do exactly the same thing. | ||
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