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Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 06:57:28
May 04 2016 06:56 GMT
#141
The dragon was actually pretty decent, all things considered. And if that's like ~55% power level of the dragon, imagine it in the hands of Faker or Maple...

Edit:

CLG's bans were absolutely garbage. I'd rather it they banned Azir than Ryze.
Ryuhou)aS(
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States1174 Posts
May 04 2016 06:56 GMT
#142
Wow what a fun game to watch!
BW. There will always be a special place in my heart for the game I spent 10 years to be mediocre at.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 04 2016 06:57 GMT
#143
On May 04 2016 15:55 Inflicted wrote:
Darshan's maokai was pretty unimpressive, should've just gone for Poppy


6.8 Poppy is just objectively worse than Maokai
Carrilord has arrived.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 07:00:53
May 04 2016 07:00 GMT
#144
On May 04 2016 15:57 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 15:55 Inflicted wrote:
Darshan's maokai was pretty unimpressive, should've just gone for Poppy


6.8 Poppy is just objectively worse than Maokai


Was NA finals 6.8 too? I think they're better off banning Maokai and playing the Poppy/Ekko trade
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iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 04 2016 07:00 GMT
#145
On May 04 2016 15:56 Kinie wrote:
The dragon was actually pretty decent, all things considered. And if that's like ~55% power level of the dragon, imagine it in the hands of Faker or Maple...

Edit:

CLG's bans were absolutely garbage. I'd rather it they banned Azir than Ryze.


Also considering their comp, not sure why they were afraid of Thresh.

With their comp Ali is way scarier.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 07:02:40
May 04 2016 07:01 GMT
#146
On May 04 2016 16:00 iCanada wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 15:56 Kinie wrote:
The dragon was actually pretty decent, all things considered. And if that's like ~55% power level of the dragon, imagine it in the hands of Faker or Maple...

Edit:

CLG's bans were absolutely garbage. I'd rather it they banned Azir than Ryze.


Also considering their comp, not sure why they were afraid of Thresh.

With their comp Ali is way scarier.


Exactly. Ban Azir and Ali, then how do RNG engage onto them, assuming the top champs are swapped and it's Darshan on Poppy and RNG's top later on Maokai.

On May 04 2016 16:00 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 15:57 Slusher wrote:
On May 04 2016 15:55 Inflicted wrote:
Darshan's maokai was pretty unimpressive, should've just gone for Poppy


6.8 Poppy is just objectively worse than Maokai


Was NA finals 6.8 too? I think they're better off banning Maokai and playing the Poppy/Ekko trade


I know NA, EU, and LCK was played on 6.6, I think LPL, LMS, and IWCI was 6.6 too. So they should've known that Maokai > Poppy.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 04 2016 07:04 GMT
#147
On May 04 2016 16:00 Inflicted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 15:57 Slusher wrote:
On May 04 2016 15:55 Inflicted wrote:
Darshan's maokai was pretty unimpressive, should've just gone for Poppy


6.8 Poppy is just objectively worse than Maokai


Was NA finals 6.8 too? I think they're better off banning Maokai and playing the Poppy/Ekko trade


I mean if you think the Mao pick was the problem, I don't agree at all.
Carrilord has arrived.
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
May 04 2016 07:05 GMT
#148
On May 04 2016 16:04 Slusher wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 04 2016 16:00 Inflicted wrote:
On May 04 2016 15:57 Slusher wrote:
On May 04 2016 15:55 Inflicted wrote:
Darshan's maokai was pretty unimpressive, should've just gone for Poppy


6.8 Poppy is just objectively worse than Maokai


Was NA finals 6.8 too? I think they're better off banning Maokai and playing the Poppy/Ekko trade


I mean if you think the Mao pick was the problem, I don't agree at all.


I don't think it was a "problem" but his Poppy plays are cleaner/better
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MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 04 2016 07:07 GMT
#149
I feel like this game next is going to be pretty close as well
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
May 04 2016 07:07 GMT
#150
I just think going back to p/b in a game where properly finishing is a >75% chance of win is a waste of time
Carrilord has arrived.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
May 04 2016 07:12 GMT
#151
On May 04 2016 16:07 Slusher wrote:
I just think going back to p/b in a game where properly finishing is a >75% chance of win is a waste of time


When CLG had aced RNG and pushed for the inhib turret, there was no way they could've ended there when it's Mao, Braum, and Cait having to push through inhib turret, inhib, 2 nexus turrets, and the nexus itself in less than 25-30s (which is when Azir and Lucian were going to be back up).

Getting the inhib and taking dragon 1 was the right call. CLG played it sloppily, as did RNG. Both teams were messy in their engages, target selection, etc. But when CLG is drafting for a team comp that is looking to kite back and control the fight with Cait traps, Sol suns, Maokai humping an enemy carry, and Graves looking to dash around with smoke grenade fields, letting the enemy team have a guaranteed hard engage with Ali and sustained damage in Azir is giving up win% points to a team that knows how to use those champions really well.
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
May 04 2016 07:12 GMT
#152
Yay, Clement
xd
RagequitBM
Profile Joined November 2011
Canada2270 Posts
May 04 2016 07:12 GMT
#153
im so sad
Twitch.tv/Ragequitbm for all the fans
chipmonklord17
Profile Joined February 2011
United States11944 Posts
May 04 2016 07:14 GMT
#154
I wish this tournament started earlier. I wanna see SKT/SUP and CLG/FW
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 04 2016 07:17 GMT
#155
On May 04 2016 16:07 Slusher wrote:
I just think going back to p/b in a game where properly finishing is a >75% chance of win is a waste of time


Id agree. If huhi didn't dive 2 towers at 12 minutes, and Stixxay wasnt 300 range from the tower at bottom after first baron then CLG probably just won that fairly cleanly right after second Baron.

Those two throws alone gave RNG a solid 3k gold both times, and denied CLG of the tower gold both times. They basically swung the game 10k gold in the favour of RNG with those mistakes. Not sure if nerves or what.

They basically threw real hard a few times with dinky micro decision making.

Then the end, Darshan tree suicided at 40 minutes like lots of trees do. It's easy to forget that suddenly you aren't unkillable after being unkillable for 40 minutes.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 07:24:07
May 04 2016 07:22 GMT
#156
This g2 lineup has serious engage problems.

how is Ryze supposed to get in???
Carrilord has arrived.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 04 2016 07:24 GMT
#157
On May 04 2016 16:22 Slusher wrote:
This g2 lineup has serious engage problems.


Yeah, basically only have Ryze TP flanks.

I think if Flash Wolves engage though they probably have the better teamfight comp if someone doesn't get insta-wrecked.
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 07:29:11
May 04 2016 07:28 GMT
#158
Pillar in the middle of the team and then just run at them nice.

Also superior splitpush maybe idk?
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 07:29:34
May 04 2016 07:29 GMT
#159
I think Kikis clicked his minimap
Carrilord has arrived.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-05-04 07:30:01
May 04 2016 07:29 GMT
#160
OH SHIT KIKIS FLASHED THE WRONG DIRECTION!

EDIT JK blind.
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