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cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
March 05 2016 08:26 GMT
#621
#1 Corki should be the #1 priority here. Clearly this pick is ridiculous. He can facetank the majority of other mids, and is the best poke mid.

On March 04 2016 22:21 Gahlo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:19 Disengaged wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:14 MuddyJam wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:10 Disengaged wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:08 MuddyJam wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:05 nafta wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.

Have yet to see democratic shotcalling really work tbh.


depends how you define it.
Everyone in a play should give information and look for and spot options.

Hard to criticise shot calling methods when you don't hear the mics


We've heard how TSM does their shotcalling through numerous "Mic checks" though. They shout over one another while Yellowstar can barely be heard through it all


shot calling is not managing a tf. Macro play has nothing to do with how a team fight is played out. You could have beautiful calling during a tf and still be a clown fiesta and vise versa. The mic checks you see in riots stuff makes for a nice 5 minute video but doesn't really give much insight. A better example would be the mic check on SKT a while back where they are planning mores for the next minute talking about rengar ulti and what is there plan.


Well, I mean, compare the TSM mic checks during team fights and C9 teaming fighting. Hai is the person giving the orders. Saying who to kill, when to back off, when to switch targets, while everyone else is giving small information like whether someone used a summoner, or if an ability is on CD. That kind of information lets Hai decide the best course of action while fights are breaking out.

To be fair, Hai is one of the best shot callers in the world.


"One of the Best"

Lulz. Best ever. He is the Faker of shotcalling, look at the team he somehow got to worlds last year. Look at his ridiculous weird zed sneaky sneaky play in S4.

TSM v. Origen = The worst draft phase, by both teams, since season 1.

Freeeeeeedom
Letmelose
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Korea (South)3227 Posts
March 05 2016 11:33 GMT
#622
On March 05 2016 17:26 cLutZ wrote:
#1 Corki should be the #1 priority here. Clearly this pick is ridiculous. He can facetank the majority of other mids, and is the best poke mid.

Show nested quote +
On March 04 2016 22:21 Gahlo wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:19 Disengaged wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:14 MuddyJam wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:10 Disengaged wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:08 MuddyJam wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:05 nafta wrote:
On March 04 2016 22:04 Disengaged wrote:
Seriously though, why the hell pick up Yellowstar if your not going to utilize his shotcalling ability? The democratic shotcalling can work, yes, but it hasn't been working out for TSM for a long time so its time for them to change the shotcalling. Everytime I hear TSM comms, all I hear is yelling/talking over eachother, and Yellowstar is drowned out due to the noise and cant really be heard.

Have yet to see democratic shotcalling really work tbh.


depends how you define it.
Everyone in a play should give information and look for and spot options.

Hard to criticise shot calling methods when you don't hear the mics


We've heard how TSM does their shotcalling through numerous "Mic checks" though. They shout over one another while Yellowstar can barely be heard through it all


shot calling is not managing a tf. Macro play has nothing to do with how a team fight is played out. You could have beautiful calling during a tf and still be a clown fiesta and vise versa. The mic checks you see in riots stuff makes for a nice 5 minute video but doesn't really give much insight. A better example would be the mic check on SKT a while back where they are planning mores for the next minute talking about rengar ulti and what is there plan.


Well, I mean, compare the TSM mic checks during team fights and C9 teaming fighting. Hai is the person giving the orders. Saying who to kill, when to back off, when to switch targets, while everyone else is giving small information like whether someone used a summoner, or if an ability is on CD. That kind of information lets Hai decide the best course of action while fights are breaking out.

To be fair, Hai is one of the best shot callers in the world.


"One of the Best"

Lulz. Best ever. He is the Faker of shotcalling, look at the team he somehow got to worlds last year. Look at his ridiculous weird zed sneaky sneaky play in S4.

TSM v. Origen = The worst draft phase, by both teams, since season 1.



From the brief exposure to the team communications from various shows, I think prime Mata is head and shoulders ahead of Hai in terms of the methodical and meticulous detail his shot calling brings to the game. Hai is more of a complete package as in he seems to bring forth a very positive atmosphere to his team, and is very charismatic, but his shot calling involves more guess work and risk taking that simply does not match Mata's methodical approach to the game.
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nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 05 2016 11:39 GMT
#623
He doesn't shotcall in English though can he possibly be the best?
Yorbon
Profile Joined December 2011
Netherlands4272 Posts
March 05 2016 11:42 GMT
#624
Hai will never get the chance to shotcall a good team.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
March 05 2016 11:44 GMT
#625
As a TSM/KT fan, there is no good outcome of this game unless it's a mess and takes forever.
739
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Bearded Elder29903 Posts
March 05 2016 11:44 GMT
#626
Huhi said they feel confident to beat SKT.

Let's watch that >.<
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Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9152 Posts
March 05 2016 11:49 GMT
#627
Aphro is so good, TSM bought the wrong part of CLG's botlane
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-05 11:54:25
March 05 2016 11:53 GMT
#628
Darshan lol. This seems like typical CLG.

edit: Aphro so good.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9152 Posts
March 05 2016 12:01 GMT
#629
What's with the sad piano during pauses lol
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
March 05 2016 12:08 GMT
#630
CLG tp plays, facepalm
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Amui
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada10567 Posts
March 05 2016 12:08 GMT
#631
Really cute ward drops to stop huhi from taking that lantern.
Porouscloud - NA LoL
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 05 2016 12:17 GMT
#632
So basically what everyone was saying about CLG is happening in game 1. Darshan exposed by good players means CLG's core strat falls apart.
Gahlo
Profile Joined February 2010
United States35165 Posts
March 05 2016 12:19 GMT
#633
Second time Stixxay has dashed into the Trueshot Barrage to get himself killed.
Dan HH
Profile Joined July 2012
Romania9152 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-05 12:21:03
March 05 2016 12:19 GMT
#634
Those Bang snipes, damn

On March 05 2016 21:17 Numy wrote:
So basically what everyone was saying about CLG is happening in game 1. Darshan exposed by good players means CLG's core strat falls apart.


They didn't even try that since they put him on Poppy. And personally I'd say his international debuff is more of an anxiety thing rather than Darshan being bad
DarkCore
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany4194 Posts
March 05 2016 12:20 GMT
#635
If Bang plays like this for another year, we might start calling him the bonjwa of LoL instead of Faker.

Finished CLG practically solo there
Fixed a bug where LeBlanc could lose
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 05 2016 12:21 GMT
#636
slow down there buddy
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-03-05 12:40:50
March 05 2016 12:39 GMT
#637
On March 05 2016 21:20 DarkCore wrote:
If Bang plays like this for another year, we might start calling him the bonjwa of LoL instead of Faker.

Finished CLG practically solo there

Let's just not call anyone the bonjwa of lol, I think that's better.

Not like beating CLG is an achievement.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9419 Posts
March 05 2016 13:08 GMT
#638
WTF are these delays lol. Yesterday I watched the game on VODS and was happy with long delays because it made it easier for me to catch up. How can anyone watch this live?
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
March 05 2016 13:10 GMT
#639
On March 05 2016 22:08 Hider wrote:
WTF are these delays lol. Yesterday I watched the game on VODS and was happy with long delays because it made it easier for me to catch up. How can anyone watch this live?


Kind of same way I watch LCS. Do other shit and just have it going on the background.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
March 05 2016 13:11 GMT
#640
On March 05 2016 22:10 Numy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 05 2016 22:08 Hider wrote:
WTF are these delays lol. Yesterday I watched the game on VODS and was happy with long delays because it made it easier for me to catch up. How can anyone watch this live?


Kind of same way I watch LCS. Do other shit and just have it going on the background.

same
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