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VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 15 2016 02:05 GMT
#501
echo fox 2-0 this week, dreams do come true
I come in for the scraps
wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 15 2016 02:19 GMT
#502
I really should refund my renegades icon that i bought before the season started.
liftlift > tsm
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 15 2016 02:24 GMT
#503
On February 15 2016 11:19 wei2coolman wrote:
I really should refund my renegades icon that i bought before the season started.


Hold on to it, that icon's gonna be super rare after they get relegated :>
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wei2coolman
Profile Joined November 2010
United States60033 Posts
February 15 2016 02:29 GMT
#504
On February 15 2016 11:24 BrownBear wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 11:19 wei2coolman wrote:
I really should refund my renegades icon that i bought before the season started.


Hold on to it, that icon's gonna be super rare after they get relegated :>

If only i could sell it like i did my ibuypower 2014 dreamhack csgo stickers for 12 dollars a piece....
liftlift > tsm
EsanLOL
Profile Joined January 2015
479 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 03:08:41
February 15 2016 03:07 GMT
#505
On February 15 2016 08:58 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 08:52 Redox wrote:
On February 15 2016 08:48 DystopiaX wrote:
On February 15 2016 08:47 suicideyear wrote:
crumbzz out here getting caught and dying every teamfight every game but lcs teams apparently can't find spots for players like shrimp who have to go back to korea because...?

especially renegades lmao

shrimp is on apex as a sub for eve.

Does Shrimp have NA residency? I doubt it.

Both NRG and Renegades need a better NA jungler. I can only think of Contractz who probably wont leave Ember.

replace alex ich with NA midlaner cause he's deadweight and pick shrimp up or something


Okay, I know everyone is fed up with Moon and Crumbz, but are we really gonna ignore Shrimp's 8-death Lee Sin game VS Dig? He didn't exactly look better.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 04:10:07
February 15 2016 04:09 GMT
#506
On February 15 2016 12:07 EsanLOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 15 2016 08:58 DystopiaX wrote:
On February 15 2016 08:52 Redox wrote:
On February 15 2016 08:48 DystopiaX wrote:
On February 15 2016 08:47 suicideyear wrote:
crumbzz out here getting caught and dying every teamfight every game but lcs teams apparently can't find spots for players like shrimp who have to go back to korea because...?

especially renegades lmao

shrimp is on apex as a sub for eve.

Does Shrimp have NA residency? I doubt it.

Both NRG and Renegades need a better NA jungler. I can only think of Contractz who probably wont leave Ember.

replace alex ich with NA midlaner cause he's deadweight and pick shrimp up or something


Okay, I know everyone is fed up with Moon and Crumbz, but are we really gonna ignore Shrimp's 8-death Lee Sin game VS Dig? He didn't exactly look better.

that's one game on a team he had no practice on, he's looked better in the other professional games he's played. And while that's vs worse competition, he looked a lot better that split than Crumbz did.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 15 2016 05:10 GMT
#507
Odds on Meteos to another team after this split? He's arguably an upgrade in pretty much every team except IMT and C9, and some teams like REN and NRG woefully need a new jungler.
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Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
February 15 2016 05:55 GMT
#508
It hinges on how the competitive jungling meta changes? As last I checked, Meteos wants two things: He wants to play jungle his way, and he wants a team environment that's... less than 100% competitive. The former tends to be cited more often.

Guess Dignitas failed the test of competency today.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 06:19:25
February 15 2016 06:16 GMT
#509
On February 15 2016 09:00 ramon wrote:
what happened to move, did he go back to korea?


Yeah, apparently he was confused about when he was going to be a free agent or something, and by the time he announced that he was, most rosters were already filled up and he went back to Korea. Also, not sure why people keep saying that Renegades should get Goldenglue. Why would he leave a team where he's making over $90k a year to join a team that's probably worse and where he would make less money?

Also, Shrimp was apparently extremely nervous in his one LCS game, so I don't think you can really judge too much from that, especially considering they likely had little to no practice together.
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Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9378 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 14:03:52
February 15 2016 13:48 GMT
#510
On February 14 2016 23:39 Ansibled wrote:
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On February 14 2016 19:58 Hider wrote:
and at worlds gp was banned every game anyway.


No. He played it against EDG, whereafter EDG banned it the next game. Why did other teams even ban it vs Fnatic? Didn't they listen to Monte?

And it's weird, but Fnatic - during worlds - was actually the team most willing to take GP and play it into Morde. Seems weird. Shouldn't Deilor know that Huni cannot play it? Or shouldn't Huni himself know he cannot play it?

also just becasue huni has good mecahnics doent mean he can play every champ godlike. look at byfargiven. cant play kalista even super gifted mechanically.


Sneaky played bad Jhin during one soloqgame I watched. So I am going to assume he will continue to be bad at it even if it becomes meta and he has had 2 months to practice on it.

My default assumption is that mechanically gifted players cannot actually learn to play mechanically difficult champions if they weren't good on it after one week.

/S

TLDR; You should understand the implications of a default assumption. A default assumption doesn't mean something is 100%, but its the most likely scenario.

i cant even remember when monte said that during worlds


Monte on SI prior to worlds (like 1-2 weeks) was so happy to tell the viewers about Huni not being able to play the champion. He stated it one episode. Then next episode, he wanted to bring it up again: "Hey Thorin let me tell you who can and cannot play GP. Soaz can, Huni cannot". (or something like that).

I really have no idea what you're talking about.


Really? Which part didn't you understand?

That default assumption =/ 100% probability (?)
The Sneaky anology intended to demonstrate that one game on a new champ =/ good indication of the skill level of how good the player is 2-3 months in the future?
That Monte just prior to worlds was very happy to tell the audience that Huni could not play GP? (based on useless data)

Neither seem hard for me to understand. But maybe my communication was off. Please enlighten me.
Hider
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Denmark9378 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-15 14:01:52
February 15 2016 13:52 GMT
#511
On February 14 2016 23:30 Miefer wrote:
lol.esportspedia.com/wiki/2015_Season_World_Championship/Picks_and_Bans/Bracket_Stage

Pls get your facts straight before talking nonsense. Fnc didnt pick GP at all. It was a 3 0 vs edg with GP banned every game. Even in group stage GP banned 100%. And 2 weeks before worlds to Februar 2016 u cant change your mind? Huni was Bad at gp i agree withm onte before worlds from what er saw. He could have improved now 4 months later. But to be honest vs dig he wasnt outstanding either. . But whatever picking a Quote from somebody 4-5 months ago to prove he is wrong now seems you are just nitpicking because you are biased vs monte..


It was picked in G2 vs EDG though. The game was however remade. In the remade game, EDG had to readjust their P/B and ban Morde.
If Fnatic/Huni was not comfortable playing GP, they would probably ban Morde and GP on red side as most teams did. However, EDG on the other hand wasn't willing to play GP into Morde.

So just by looking at the P/B-strategies of the team, it shows alot about the players champion pool.
VayneAuthority
Profile Joined October 2012
United States8983 Posts
February 15 2016 14:59 GMT
#512
crumbzz isnt even good in solo q and has a mediocre/terrible attitude. Why he's still in pro play is beyond me. I guess just like irl having connections/friends helps and Dignitas' owner "hands off" style means his job isnt really in jeopardy.
I come in for the scraps
Zato-1
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Chile4253 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 12:45:15
February 16 2016 12:43 GMT
#513
On February 15 2016 23:59 VayneAuthority wrote:
crumbzz isnt even good in solo q and has a mediocre/terrible attitude. Why he's still in pro play is beyond me. I guess just like irl having connections/friends helps and Dignitas' owner "hands off" style means his job isnt really in jeopardy.

To me, the biggest indication that Crumbzz was done as a jungler came from when he got the boot from dignitas in the 2015 Spring Split. He had been playing abysmally, got replaced by CloudNguyen, he lambasted his team and his teammates saying that the problem was that they weren't getting enough vision or following his calls and that the team was going to crash and burn without him, and next week dig played SO much better without him it was like a different team, and they started picking up wins again.

I think Crumbzz moved into coaching then, which is fine, but I don't know why Renegades thought he'd be any good as a player again after that. Why not take a chance on a challenger jungler over someone who isn't any good in soloqueue, is nowhere near LCS-caliber on stage, and is well past his prime. It's like if TIP now decided that what's missing in their roster is to buy Chauster from CLG and start him in the jungle again.
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Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
February 16 2016 16:18 GMT
#514
Crumbzz isn't exactly just a player recruited by Renegades.
So, from this interview with Chris Badawi back in last March:

Q. So how did you get in touch with Crumbzz and Alex?

So initially, I was in the running to purchase Curse Academy from Steve Arhancet. I got outbid but I formed a relationship with Steve and during that process he invited me to work with Liquid for a couple of weeks and see what it is that I wanted to get out of the scene. Steve opened a lot of doors for me and really welcomed me into the scene. I made a lot of great connections and met a lot of good people. After my experience with Liquid, I decided to create my own team and we parted on good terms. Steve was really wonderful throughout the whole process.

I saw Crumbzz left Dignitas, had drinks with him and talked about what we wanted out of the future. We wanted to create something that was really player centric - less of a company and more a family, something like the early Cloud 9 - a bunch of guys doing something that they loved. The scene is so competitive and there is so much money involved that there is a lot of pressure on these guys and a lot of the times their love of the game diminishes. Overall I think it is possible for players to play this game for a living and have fun doing it.

I decided I wanted to create an atmosphere and a team where they felt like they were part of an organization - something they were proud of and were personally invested in the outcome of how the organization does and Crumbzz really liked the philosophy. So he and I together started talking about what kind of team we wanted and what kind of roster we wanted. Crumbzz suggested Alex and I talked with Alex to see if he was contracted to any team. He said he wasn’t and so we ended up getting Alex. Crumbzz and Alex are two of the nicest people I’ve ever met in my life. Any team with these two kind, professional and distinguished personalities at its core will be an absolute pleasure for all involved - not to mention Alex is a legend and Crumbzz has been in the scene from the start.

So with this philosophy in mind, I started to search for other players and found Yuno. All three of us agreed that she was a diamond in the rough. We’re now three strong and still looking to solidify the rest of the roster. We have plenty of time until the Challenger Series qualifiers.


So the vibe presented to the public is that Crumbzz is there less because of his skills as a player and more because of a philosophical match.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
February 16 2016 17:00 GMT
#515
im sure there are some bronze players who are also philosophical matches
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Saradin
Profile Joined January 2015
456 Posts
February 16 2016 17:14 GMT
#516
It does get me wondering where Crumbzz/Alex fall in the power structure in Renegades, though. The manager in place at the time, Mason Long, is listed on esportspedia to have left in April*. And I've no idea how much authority the current manager, Leonyx, has from Badawi.

*aside, if you look at Mason Long's esports resume, it says differently. His resume (which can be found here) lists his tenure as manager of Misfits (Renegades' previous name) from January 3 to August 12 of 2015. There is some overlap with what he listed as his time as coach of CLG.Black, which was for October 1, 2014 to February 7, 2015. That one month overlap of jobs gets an eyebrow raise from me, but I can't dig up more on that to go further. Misfits wasn't even publicly announced until March.
Skitter
Profile Joined August 2015
United States899 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-16 18:44:20
February 16 2016 18:43 GMT
#517
He was with C9T during the ascension tournament and until they became Ember
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