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[EU LCS] Summer Split 2015 Week 7 - Page 25

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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 20:22:41
July 10 2015 20:21 GMT
#481
On July 11 2015 05:19 RagequitBM wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 05:16 Redox wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:15 SagaZ wrote:
there's just no winning against fnatic such dominance

Of course there is. Fnatic was rather lucky OG went for a 3v5 engage amd threw the game. Not sure why people are praising them so much right after the game where they showed the most weakness so far.

Because coming back from 6000 gold twice in a row is very impressive. Why be such a buzzkill? What do you get out of it

Just trying to gauge Fnatic's strength. Obviously Fnatic is beatable if the advantages you can gain over them in the laning phase are used better.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
July 10 2015 20:22 GMT
#482
On July 11 2015 05:21 Caiada wrote:
Fnatic's drafting is careless. Feels like they're trying different things for their own sake. Meanwhile, the better teams are starting to figure them out a little. Weak or reckless early games, an early game reliance on Huni/Reignover, the 'huni go bot while we ward baron' stuff. We'll see where they actually lie at playoffs/worlds.


I don't think playoffs will tell you anything, honestly.
But if Fnatic can bomb out in groupstage at Worlds to Taiwanese team after going 24-0, I will approve.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
Numy
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
South Africa35471 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 20:23:49
July 10 2015 20:22 GMT
#483
On July 11 2015 05:21 nafta wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 05:20 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On July 11 2015 05:18 krndandaman wrote:
peke played pretty well
love me some good old peke tf


??

Him ulting into the whole Fnatic team was whatlost that crucial teamfight.

or gold carding the janna instead of kalista out of the bush


But be backdoored! Lol Xpeke played that so poorly. Don't know if him or Soaz were worse at fighting. At least Fnatic are good at punishing those kind of misplays. That's one positive from this game.
Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9262 Posts
July 10 2015 20:24 GMT
#484
Didn't he gold card Janna to prevent her from using her ult?
You're now breathing manually
AlterKot
Profile Blog Joined January 2014
Poland7525 Posts
July 10 2015 20:25 GMT
#485
To be fair this is probably Fnatic at it's lowest and they are probably relaxing before they start crunching for playoffs.
Americans don't like to use unblockables, it is considered not honest. You press a button at the wrong time and hit the other person, you are random, not a top player. You DP Sim's far fierce, it is random and not honest.
Poopi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France12906 Posts
July 10 2015 20:25 GMT
#486
The comeback is strong with this team :D.
WriterMaru
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 10 2015 20:26 GMT
#487
On July 11 2015 05:24 Sent. wrote:
Didn't he gold card Janna to prevent her from using her ult?

they were 3 people in the bush if he uses his gold card on janna do you think naut+gragas can kill a lulu ulted kalista?
Mensol
Profile Joined September 2012
14536 Posts
July 10 2015 20:26 GMT
#488
Froggen destined to stop fnatic's streak.
If you don't know what the fuck you are doing, how are your enemies supposed to know what the fuck you are doing. - imaqtpie on NA teams at Worlds.
nafta
Profile Joined August 2010
Bulgaria18893 Posts
July 10 2015 20:28 GMT
#489
no uol will stop it after losing all their games after today until the matchup

Apex
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States7227 Posts
July 10 2015 20:28 GMT
#490
On July 11 2015 05:28 nafta wrote:
no uol will stop it after losing all their games after today until the matchup



That sounds like such a UoL thing to do
krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 20:37:47
July 10 2015 20:29 GMT
#491
--- Nuked ---
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
July 10 2015 20:32 GMT
#492
The port in Fnatic's one really terrible drag fight pretty much ensured the cleanup. It was definitely one of his better games. This was a game mostly lost on macro and bad overall calls.
XDG Mata
Majax
Profile Joined December 2014
France816 Posts
July 10 2015 20:34 GMT
#493
On July 11 2015 05:16 Redox wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 05:15 SagaZ wrote:
there's just no winning against fnatic such dominance

Of course there is. Fnatic was rather lucky OG went for a 3v5 engage amd threw the game. Not sure why people are praising them so much right after the game where they showed the most weakness so far.


Because after x times seeing them being "lucky" maybe we could agree that they are just really decisive and on point when it comes to punishing ennemy mistakes, miles ahead of any other european team, and that's why they are 14-0.
Can't take LMS hipsters serious
Azarkon
Profile Joined January 2010
United States21060 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 20:38:31
July 10 2015 20:38 GMT
#494
On July 11 2015 05:15 Mensol wrote:
fnatic is easily the best team LCS ever had.


And it only took them two Korean imports to do it. Amazing what sort of difference that made over the last two splits. Of course, getting a competent ADC also helps.

Still, the fact that Korean imports are able to fly to the five major regions and subsequently take the top slot of every region except LMS, speaks to what is effectively a talent gap. After all, just a year ago people were saying that Korean imports would never work in LoL because of the language requirements. Yet, it looks as though that wasn't as big of a deal as the raw skill difference these imports brought. Such a result has to make people think hard about why NA, EU, and China, with a combined player population that has to be 10+ times the size of Korea, hasn't been able to match up in talent. Infrastructure arguments just don't cut it now, except insofar as they deal with talent scouting/development.

I wonder when TSM is going to spend their next import slot. Soon, I think.
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 20:40:29
July 10 2015 20:39 GMT
#495
Leave it to SK to make the start of a good draft into a stupid one.

Lulu sup and Naut top is fucking tragic.
XDG Mata
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
July 10 2015 20:39 GMT
#496
EU LCS 2015 Summer Split Week 7 Day 2 Game 5


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Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
July 10 2015 20:45 GMT
#497
Soren... really?
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
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Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-07-10 20:48:46
July 10 2015 20:46 GMT
#498
On July 11 2015 05:38 Azarkon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 11 2015 05:15 Mensol wrote:
fnatic is easily the best team LCS ever had.


And it only took them two Korean imports to do it. Amazing what sort of difference that made over the last two splits. Of course, getting a competent ADC also helps.

Still, the fact that Korean imports are able to fly to the five major regions and subsequently take the top slot of every region except LMS, speaks to what is effectively a talent gap. After all, just a year ago people were saying that Korean imports would never work in LoL because of the language requirements. Yet, it looks as though that wasn't as big of a deal as the raw skill difference these imports brought. Such a result has to make people think hard about why NA, EU, and China, with a combined player population that has to be 10+ times the size of Korea, hasn't been able to match up in talent. Infrastructure arguments just don't cut it now, except insofar as they deal with talent scouting/development.

I wonder when TSM is going to spend their next import slot. Soon, I think.

Meh its not like the 2 Koreans are better than the other 3 players on the team. Fnatic's success is also largely about having a good coach and a rigid structure with less freedom for players. That is the biggest thing they have in common with korean teams and what other western teams lack.
Talent is often overrated anyway compared to other things.
Off-season = best season
oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
July 10 2015 20:50 GMT
#499
What was that Lenny's ult about, lol.
LiquidLegends StaffFPL 25 #1 | tfw I cast games on-air | back-to-back Liquibet winner
TitusVI
Profile Joined April 2013
Germany8319 Posts
July 10 2015 20:51 GMT
#500
gogo CW make the 10th place fight a thriller
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