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snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
April 18 2015 23:15 GMT
#4601
On April 19 2015 08:13 DystopiaX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 08:12 KissBlade wrote:
On April 19 2015 08:11 Ansibled wrote:
I think it's worth to just ban Kassadin.


And let through Yasuo?! :D

honestly in this meta there are so many good priority picks, look at what got through- Hec Shyv Grag Azir Naut Rek have all seen bans in other games.

There are many good picks, yes. If they can't play any of those picks better than TIP does, then they simply don't deserve winning this match, as much as i like Liquid.

Just looking at the that toplane makes me cringe. Played shyvana vs heca, lost every duel. played heca vs shyvana, lost every duel. Wat.
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 23:16:05
April 18 2015 23:15 GMT
#4602
IWD needs to be on a tankier jungler. I know Sejuani was banned, but he needs to get onto Gragas, or play Zac, or Nunu. This Rek'sai isn't good enough.

Also, TL needs to work on it's pick/ban a bit more. Piglet needs to get off Vayne/Twitch and get onto something like Lucian, I think you have to drop the Ori ban for Kassadin. Late game Ori is managable, late game Kass isn't.
lilwisper
Profile Joined April 2010
United States2515 Posts
April 18 2015 23:16 GMT
#4603
Reksai is probably going to be avoided the rest of the match. 3 straight games, 3 straight losses.
Faeny
Profile Joined January 2015
647 Posts
April 18 2015 23:16 GMT
#4604
On April 19 2015 08:15 O-ops wrote:
A lot of times they play it out and talk about what happened this game and what they will do next game as the other team is trying to close it out. It's not like they actually expect to turn the game back.

It's time you have to plan the next game. No point just /ff and lose all that.

TL doesn't seem to be that type of team though, especially with Piglet.
SKT hwaiting! RIP TL, TiP
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
April 18 2015 23:16 GMT
#4605
See you just have to replace saying powerspike with 'item timing' then it sounds fresh.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
cLutZ
Profile Joined November 2010
United States19574 Posts
April 18 2015 23:16 GMT
#4606
On April 19 2015 08:09 KissBlade wrote:
No one can even touch Impact's Shyvanna -.-. How did Quas fall so far behind in levels???


Thats how smite toplane works. He got a double kill and bought boots 2 instead of rushing Trinity and lost 2 waves. So, he lost a ton of XP, in a summoner matchup that is only going to snowball a level advantage, and didn't buy combat stats.

Honestly, though, I just dont understand Vayne picks in this meta unless you know the enemy is not picking any of: Kog, Corki, or Jinx (and probably others I'm not thinking right now). Vayne is just not a great champion IMO. Even the Twitch was better.
Freeeeeeedom
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
April 18 2015 23:16 GMT
#4607
On April 19 2015 08:13 DanielZKlein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 08:12 KissBlade wrote:
On April 19 2015 08:11 Ansibled wrote:
I think it's worth to just ban Kassadin.


And let through Yasuo?! :D


That would be ideal ;P Azir into Yasuo is a free lane, if you want to play Azir again.


Was a joke. Don't think Yasuo is getting picked again. The main issue is that Rush actually found a good early game tank jungler. And Dominate was very lackluster last game. I really don't understand why mid didn't get an absolute hardcamp. Why bother trying to let Vayne get ahead if Kassadin can instant pop him anyway.
Marmy
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Iran1697 Posts
April 18 2015 23:16 GMT
#4608
ok you heard it here first
TL wins 3-2
Ansibled
Profile Joined November 2014
United Kingdom9872 Posts
April 18 2015 23:17 GMT
#4609
I swear Gragas does more damage building full tank than Lee Sin does building bruiser... balanced.
'StarCraft is just a fairy tale told to scare children actually.'
TL+ Member
Faeny
Profile Joined January 2015
647 Posts
April 18 2015 23:17 GMT
#4610
On April 19 2015 08:16 Marmy wrote:
ok you heard it here first
TL wins 3-2

Well, I suppose the probable outcomes are narrowing.
SKT hwaiting! RIP TL, TiP
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 18 2015 23:18 GMT
#4611
XWX is just amazing. I love watching Impulse almost solely due to how good XWX is. Definitely #2 mid in NA and in my opinion can even challenge Bjergsen in some aspects(and the rest of his team isn't as solid).
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Itsmedudeman
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States19229 Posts
April 18 2015 23:18 GMT
#4612
On April 19 2015 08:18 Shikyo wrote:
XWX is just amazing. I love watching Impulse almost solely due to how good XWX is. Definitely #2 mid in NA and in my opinion can even challenge Bjergsen in some aspects(and the rest of his team isn't as solid).

Yeah... no. Think we all saw what bjergsen did to him this split.
snow2.0
Profile Joined September 2010
Germany2073 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 23:19:14
April 18 2015 23:18 GMT
#4613
On April 19 2015 08:16 cLutZ wrote:

Honestly, though, I just dont understand Vayne picks in this meta unless you know the enemy is not picking any of: Kog, Corki, or Jinx (and probably others I'm not thinking right now). Vayne is just not a great champion IMO. Even the Twitch was better.

Yea. I havn't seen vayne win any games, and i watch a lot of qtpie stream. She needs to get to lategame, and then she still has an incredibly hard time to just stay alive with double tanks just sitting on her face.

I've only seen her win off her teams back.
boesthius
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States11637 Posts
April 18 2015 23:19 GMT
#4614
--- Nuked ---
Caiada
Profile Joined January 2015
United States3052 Posts
April 18 2015 23:20 GMT
#4615
Lee's badness is the problem there, not Gragas. Though Gragas's slow is a bit silly atm. Unless you're just gonna TiP it up and Rush your way to a massive lead 10 minutes in, don't pick Lee.
XDG Mata
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 23:22:15
April 18 2015 23:21 GMT
#4616
On April 19 2015 08:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 08:18 Shikyo wrote:
XWX is just amazing. I love watching Impulse almost solely due to how good XWX is. Definitely #2 mid in NA and in my opinion can even challenge Bjergsen in some aspects(and the rest of his team isn't as solid).

Yeah... no. Think we all saw what bjergsen did to him this split.



Well he said in some aspects and tbh I think XWX's can lane perfectly fine against Burgerking. Bjergsen definitely trumps in all aspects of teamfighting though.

Also I thought didn't XWX do pretty alright against Bjergsen this split except for those last three roflmao games from playoffs?

On April 19 2015 08:18 snow2.0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 19 2015 08:16 cLutZ wrote:

Honestly, though, I just dont understand Vayne picks in this meta unless you know the enemy is not picking any of: Kog, Corki, or Jinx (and probably others I'm not thinking right now). Vayne is just not a great champion IMO. Even the Twitch was better.

Yea. I havn't seen vayne win any games, and i watch a lot of qtpie stream. She needs to get to lategame, and then she still has an incredibly hard time to just stay alive with double tanks just sitting on her face.

I've only seen her win off her teams back.



Wuxin had a pretty beast Vayne. But those series yeah ...
Kinie
Profile Joined December 2011
United States3106 Posts
April 18 2015 23:21 GMT
#4617
The more I think about it, the more that I think Kass just needs to go back on permaban status because if he scales to late game (which he will in most pro games) he's just going to be unkillable.
DystopiaX
Profile Joined October 2010
United States16236 Posts
April 18 2015 23:21 GMT
#4618
On April 19 2015 08:15 Kinie wrote:
IWD needs to be on a tankier jungler. I know Sejuani was banned, but he needs to get onto Gragas, or play Zac, or Nunu. This Rek'sai isn't good enough.

Also, TL needs to work on it's pick/ban a bit more. Piglet needs to get off Vayne/Twitch and get onto something like Lucian, I think you have to drop the Ori ban for Kassadin. Late game Ori is managable, late game Kass isn't.

Reksai is fine.

A lot of it isn't the comps it's how they're played out. When the game just started almost everyone was saying they thought the TL comp was fine, its not suddenly bad because they lost.
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-04-18 23:22:52
April 18 2015 23:22 GMT
#4619
Mostly was talking about farming and "challenging" isn't "better"

Funny how Kass is like half the strength he used to be and is still ridiculously powerful.
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
April 18 2015 23:22 GMT
#4620
Also let's stop banning Lee Sin thx
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