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[IEM] Katowice 2015 Discussion - Page 112
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TitusVI
Germany8319 Posts
But he is right. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
On March 14 2015 22:28 Solaris.playgu wrote: Yes, I totally agree with that, SK got stomped this game for sure. They picked bad and they played bad, no doubt about it. I don't particularly care about SK as such. The thing is, YFW won this game in the earlygame, by having a strategy that countered SK:s playstyle at every step. Something like that will generally only work once, and despite this the SK laners were massively ahead in terms of farm. That just tells me that SK members were more skilled, and that a better pick/ban combined with a tailored earlygame strat and bad reactions from SK won YFW this game. Unless they had more strategies prepared against SK it's just very unlikely that they would win in a longer series. It would only work once if SK wasn't completely known for being a one trick pony with their mid-game transitions also subject of mics: BZZZZZZZZZT BZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZT On March 14 2015 22:31 Solaris.playgu wrote: Not at all, there are many strategies that are viable. However, similar to the case of starcraft, unless the opponent has several earlygame strats prepared in a longer series the better macro-player will generally have the advantage. And no, it's two bo1:s with a full day inbetween. Hardly the same as a bo2. It can be thought of as a Bo2 because YFW clearly learned and adjusted for the second game. | ||
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Solaris.playgu
Sweden480 Posts
On March 14 2015 22:27 Thinasy wrote: No shit they have cs advantages when Yoe stayed stacked for the majority of the game.. like roaming and putting down wards, killing people 3v1 and stuff. I swear these types of arguments are very close to the arguments that a macro game in SC2 is the only way to play, its stupid. *You need to sit afk in lane for 30 minutes and they have a 5v5 battle decide who wins the game through sheer individual laning* Also its 1-1 vs SK, so yeah.. it really isnt a bo1 in this case Not at all, there are many strategies that are viable. However, similar to the case of starcraft, unless the opponent has several earlygame strats prepared in a longer series the better macro-player will generally have the advantage. And no, it's two bo1:s with a full day inbetween. Hardly the same as a bo2. | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Spirit, is it time to beat CJ Entus again? On March 14 2015 22:31 AlterKot wrote: I mean if YFW put up a fight against TSM (even lose 0-2 but not in a dominant fasion) then I re-evaluate my opinion on SEA. Until then I consider this an upset. Upset =/= disgrace. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
WE has to play CJ and assuming they win they have to play GE directly after? Talk about brutal. | ||
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orzeu
Poland5205 Posts
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On March 14 2015 22:33 Kavas wrote: Is the schedule on Teamliquid bar correct? WE has to play CJ and assuming they win they have to play GE directly after? Talk about brutal. Why is it brutal wtf?It really isn't a big deal. Also this is iem there will be a 40 minute break after the game lol. | ||
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Solaris.playgu
Sweden480 Posts
On March 14 2015 22:30 las91 wrote: It would only work once if SK wasn't completely known for being a one trick pony with their mid-game transitions also subject of mics: BZZZZZZZZZT BZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZZZZ BZZZZZZZZZT It can be thought of as a Bo2 because YFW clearly learned and adjusted for the second game. Of course they adjusted. They adjusted by watching another team play against SK and defeating them, and by forging an earlygame strategy that was tailored against SK:s earlygame play. Which is not something that could be done in a bo2 series due to time-restraints. Which means that it cannot be thought of as a bo2. | ||
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
Speak about motherfucking LPL champion legacy. Not going Nidalee, Spirit? Eh, don't like it, but okay. | ||
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las91
United States5080 Posts
at least xiye isn't taking TP again | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On March 14 2015 22:31 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote: Karsa had his best game in tournament tonight. Spirit, is it time to beat CJ Entus again? Upset =/= disgrace. Look, I don't watch LMS, I don't know if YFW is the second coming of TPA or whatever. Every international tournament in past 3 years proved that SEA is the worst region by noticeable margin. I know a lot of people already wrote of SK, but I genuinly thought they would get to semis against CJ and put up a fight. "Disgrace" is a joke exaggeration, but in a sense that I still think SK is a team of caliber that shouldn't have lost to YFW. I mean the tournament proved they aren't, but just how I imagined them prior to today. | ||
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nafta
Bulgaria18893 Posts
On March 14 2015 22:37 AlterKot wrote: Look, I don't watch LMS, I don't know if YFW is the second coming of TPA or whatever. Every international tournament in past 3 years proved that SEA is the worst region by noticeable margin. I know a lot of people already wrote of SK, but I genuinly thought they would get to semis against CJ and put up a fight. "Disgrace" is a joke exaggeration, but in a sense that I still think SK is a team of caliber that shouldn't have lost to YFW. I mean the tournament proved they aren't, but just how I imagined them prior to today. Sounds like you haven't been watching the eu lcs last few weeks. | ||
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ShootAnonymous
1948 Posts
YOU CAN DO EET! | ||
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Ansibled
United Kingdom9872 Posts
On March 14 2015 22:33 Kavas wrote: Is the schedule on Teamliquid bar correct? WE has to play CJ and assuming they win they have to play GE directly after? Talk about brutal. That's what you get for being second seed out of groups. | ||
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Kavas
Australia3421 Posts
At least Sivir outscales Corki >_< | ||
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AlterKot
Poland7525 Posts
On March 14 2015 22:39 nafta wrote: Sounds like you haven't been watching the eu lcs last few weeks. They beat Fnatic though, I thought that was an end of a slump. | ||
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krndandaman
Mozambique16569 Posts
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oo_Wonderful_oo
The land of freedom23126 Posts
On March 14 2015 22:37 AlterKot wrote: Look, I don't watch LMS, I don't know if YFW is the second coming of TPA or whatever. Every international tournament in past 3 years proved that SEA is the worst region by noticeable margin. I know a lot of people already wrote of SK, but I genuinly thought they would get to semis against CJ and put up a fight. "Disgrace" is a joke exaggeration, but in a sense that I still think SK is a team of caliber that shouldn't have lost to YFW. I mean the tournament proved they aren't, but just how I imagined them prior to today. That's why bo1 works properly for SEA teams in their current state. Yoe/TPA are way stronger than they were before and in bo1 they can give run for money to any teams in the world but top Korean/Chinese teams. Did SK underrate YoeFW? Of course they did. Since that day, they won't. Okay comp by WE, actually, just don't need to die. Even with Xiye's tp, eh. | ||
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