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On March 14 2015 22:15 Racket wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 22:12 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 22:09 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:07 orzeu wrote:On March 14 2015 22:06 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:05 orzeu wrote:On March 14 2015 22:03 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:02 orzeu wrote:
SK one trick pony. ohhhh, hate incoming!!!! be prepared fans! Hate? They can play one team comp that is easily punishable. competitve lol doesnt offer a really wide range of compositions anyway Are you retarded ? if switching one front laner for another and one poke for another, and one cc for another, how is that a wide range of compositions? i have never seen more than 3 different compositions. On March 14 2015 22:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
When yoe wins bo3 against TSM, people will stop whining about bo1 :>
Rachel hypu.
and begin complaining about bo3!  Please, there are 3 potential protect the Kog'maw compositions alone. I think this is an issue with a too narrow definition of composition, or a lack of understanding what makes compositions different. are you calling "3 different PROTECT THE KOG MAW" compositions "different compositions"? are you for real?
At first I was going to agree with you, then I thought about it:
Is a Janna/Thresh-style peel-for-kog really the same as Lulu/karma stack-all-the-shields kog?
League comps are somewhat limited to me still, but there's sufficient nuance I think, albeit not a 'wide' range.
edit: My mind went meandering. my conclusion is yea, I agree w you. >_<
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On March 14 2015 22:17 Thinasy wrote:
*Gap is really small vs GE Tigers* - Fox
Gets fucking rekt in lane by a tear Ezreal as Leblanc and proceeds to be invisible the entire game not even trying to flank.. Jesus christ how delusional are these players.
I can guarantee they're gonna blame this loss on pick/ban somehow.
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On March 14 2015 22:15 Racket wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 22:12 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 22:09 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:07 orzeu wrote:On March 14 2015 22:06 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:05 orzeu wrote:On March 14 2015 22:03 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:02 orzeu wrote:
SK one trick pony. ohhhh, hate incoming!!!! be prepared fans! Hate? They can play one team comp that is easily punishable. competitve lol doesnt offer a really wide range of compositions anyway Are you retarded ? if switching one front laner for another and one poke for another, and one cc for another, how is that a wide range of compositions? i have never seen more than 3 different compositions. On March 14 2015 22:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
When yoe wins bo3 against TSM, people will stop whining about bo1 :>
Rachel hypu.
and begin complaining about bo3! Please, there are 3 potential protect the Kog'maw compositions alone. I think this is an issue with a too narrow definition of composition, or a lack of understanding what makes compositions different. are you calling "3 different PROTECT THE KOG MAW" compositions "different compositions"? are you for real? edit: i may be too kind by calling that "different strategy" but im not even sure if i really ok with it.
They all play out completely differently. The overarching strategy is the same (protecting the Kog'maw) but the way you go about it is different.
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On March 14 2015 22:17 ShootAnonymous wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 22:15 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:12 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 22:09 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:07 orzeu wrote:On March 14 2015 22:06 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:05 orzeu wrote:On March 14 2015 22:03 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:02 orzeu wrote:
SK one trick pony. ohhhh, hate incoming!!!! be prepared fans! Hate? They can play one team comp that is easily punishable. competitve lol doesnt offer a really wide range of compositions anyway Are you retarded ? if switching one front laner for another and one poke for another, and one cc for another, how is that a wide range of compositions? i have never seen more than 3 different compositions. On March 14 2015 22:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
When yoe wins bo3 against TSM, people will stop whining about bo1 :>
Rachel hypu.
and begin complaining about bo3! Please, there are 3 potential protect the Kog'maw compositions alone. I think this is an issue with a too narrow definition of composition, or a lack of understanding what makes compositions different. are you calling "3 different PROTECT THE KOG MAW" compositions "different compositions"? are you for real? At first I was going to agree with you, then I thought about it: Is a Janna/Thresh-style peel-for-kog really the same as Lulu/karma stack-all-the-shields kog? League comps are somewhat limited to me still, but there's sufficient nuance I think, albeit not a 'wide' range. edit: My mind went meandering. my conclusion is yea, I agree w you. >_<
Janna has a shield same as lulu/karma just sayin.
Ironic how forgiven is denied success by the wolves yet again.
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On March 14 2015 22:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 22:17 Thinasy wrote:
*Gap is really small vs GE Tigers* - Fox
Gets fucking rekt in lane by a tear Ezreal as Leblanc and proceeds to be invisible the entire game not even trying to flank.. Jesus christ how delusional are these players. I can guarantee they're gonna blame this loss on pick/ban somehow.
It always does end up like that sadly enough.
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Bo1 is really killing this tournament imo. Just looking at how the lanes went (100+ cs advantage bot, 70+ cs advantage top) and the fact that such a tailored earlygame strat will only really work once it's pretty much guaranteed that SK would win a bo3 against YFW. It's also very questionable if WE would have went on in a bo3 format. Oh well =/
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On March 14 2015 22:19 nafta wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 22:17 ShootAnonymous wrote:On March 14 2015 22:15 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:12 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 22:09 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:07 orzeu wrote:On March 14 2015 22:06 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:05 orzeu wrote:On March 14 2015 22:03 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:02 orzeu wrote:
SK one trick pony. ohhhh, hate incoming!!!! be prepared fans! Hate? They can play one team comp that is easily punishable. competitve lol doesnt offer a really wide range of compositions anyway Are you retarded ? if switching one front laner for another and one poke for another, and one cc for another, how is that a wide range of compositions? i have never seen more than 3 different compositions. On March 14 2015 22:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
When yoe wins bo3 against TSM, people will stop whining about bo1 :>
Rachel hypu.
and begin complaining about bo3! Please, there are 3 potential protect the Kog'maw compositions alone. I think this is an issue with a too narrow definition of composition, or a lack of understanding what makes compositions different. are you calling "3 different PROTECT THE KOG MAW" compositions "different compositions"? are you for real? At first I was going to agree with you, then I thought about it: Is a Janna/Thresh-style peel-for-kog really the same as Lulu/karma stack-all-the-shields kog? League comps are somewhat limited to me still, but there's sufficient nuance I think, albeit not a 'wide' range. edit: My mind went meandering. my conclusion is yea, I agree w you. >_< Janna has a shield same as lulu/karma just sayin. Ironic how forgiven is denied success by the wolves yet again.
touche! that's not really her 'peel' though.
On March 14 2015 22:20 Solaris.playgu wrote:
Bo1 is really killing this tournament imo. Just looking at how the lanes went (100+ cs advantage bot, 70+ cs advantage top) and the fact that such a tailored earlygame strat will only really work once it's pretty much guaranteed that SK would win a bo3 against YFW. It's also very questionable if WE would have went on in a bo3 format. Oh well =/
*continues to drink tears from NA/EU fans* stay salty; didn't see y'all complaining this much when the brackets were first released (I know there were complaints, but see the sharp increase after an upset makes me cackle)
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On March 14 2015 22:20 Solaris.playgu wrote:
Bo1 is really killing this tournament imo. Just looking at how the lanes went (100+ cs advantage bot, 70+ cs advantage top) and the fact that such a tailored earlygame strat will only really work once it's pretty much guaranteed that SK would win a bo3 against YFW. It's also very questionable if WE would have went on in a bo3 format. Oh well =/
How is it guaranteed when they went 1-1 with each other? SK just isn't as strong as they or people think. They are arrogant about their own ability and completely ignore their opposition. They did that again GE and now against moe wolves.
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Don't blame format, SK got outpicked and outplayed. It's simple.
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Yoe didn't have an early game strat lol.Sven started red and got it he didn't even get delayed much since reksai pushed bot and then did drake.Sven was actually a full level ahead in xp.
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I guess, we won't even get to "we messed up in p/b phase" excuses this way, considering "bo1 killed tournament, TSM is just that superior to CJ Entus that they would have won bo3 all day long, hurr durr".
That's why Season 2 was cute :p
TPA haters were in little numbers.
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Ok if TSM looses their best of 3 I wont buy rp anymore.
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On March 14 2015 22:19 Mikau wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2015 22:15 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:12 Mikau wrote:On March 14 2015 22:09 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:07 orzeu wrote:On March 14 2015 22:06 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:05 orzeu wrote:On March 14 2015 22:03 Racket wrote:On March 14 2015 22:02 orzeu wrote:
SK one trick pony. ohhhh, hate incoming!!!! be prepared fans! Hate? They can play one team comp that is easily punishable. competitve lol doesnt offer a really wide range of compositions anyway Are you retarded ? if switching one front laner for another and one poke for another, and one cc for another, how is that a wide range of compositions? i have never seen more than 3 different compositions. On March 14 2015 22:08 oo_Wonderful_oo wrote:
When yoe wins bo3 against TSM, people will stop whining about bo1 :>
Rachel hypu.
and begin complaining about bo3! Please, there are 3 potential protect the Kog'maw compositions alone. I think this is an issue with a too narrow definition of composition, or a lack of understanding what makes compositions different. are you calling "3 different PROTECT THE KOG MAW" compositions "different compositions"? are you for real? edit: i may be too kind by calling that "different strategy" but im not even sure if i really ok with it. They all play out completely differently. The overarching strategy is the same (protecting the Kog'maw) but the way you go about it is different.
whatever, as long as you enjoy watching the game, you can call it whatever you want and believe whatever you want, i dont agree with you and i wont ever
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On March 14 2015 22:18 Itsmedudeman wrote:
I can guarantee they're gonna blame this loss on pick/ban somehow.
No, you know, they were ill this week and they didn't had enough practice so that happened.
Nothing to do with poor play, poor control of vision and so on...
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OK I calmed down.
1) Fox did nothing that game. Improve that.
2) Svenskeren is not good at engaging. He played the early game well, he was ahead in exp of Rek'Sai and he denied YFW vision/paths by being a threat. He'll pick off a target, he'll make damage, but he won't make you a good engage. That's what fredy's for.
3) I don't mind risky invades and trading kills for turrets. But SK are taking so many high risk-low reward situation. Evaluate that.
4) If Forg1ven can't play more than 3 adcs then it's silly that he's even in conversation for best ADCs in the west when Sneaky exists.
5) Play different comps. Siege comp would probably work well for you. Juggermaw would definitely be good. You can't play pick comps with your philosophy on vision and you can't play engage comps because Sven and nRated suck at engaging.
6) Losing to SEA is a disgrace. Fuck you SK.
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On March 14 2015 22:20 Solaris.playgu wrote:
Bo1 is really killing this tournament imo. Just looking at how the lanes went (100+ cs advantage bot, 70+ cs advantage top) and the fact that such a tailored earlygame strat will only really work once it's pretty much guaranteed that SK would win a bo3 against YFW. It's also very questionable if WE would have went on in a bo3 format. Oh well =/
No shit they have cs advantages when Yoe stayed stacked for the majority of the game.. like roaming and putting down wards, killing people 3v1 and stuff.
I swear these types of arguments are very close to the arguments that a macro game in SC2 is the only way to play, its stupid. *You need to sit afk in lane for 30 minutes and they have a 5v5 battle decide who wins the game through sheer individual laning* Also its 1-1 vs SK, so yeah.. it really isnt a bo1 in this case
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Why would they force Forgiven to play Corki if he hates him and other adcs were open?
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Yes, I totally agree with that, SK got stomped this game for sure. They picked bad and they played bad, no doubt about it. I don't particularly care about SK as such. The thing is, YFW won this game in the earlygame, by having a strategy that countered SK:s playstyle at every step. Something like that will generally only work once, and despite this the SK laners were massively ahead in terms of farm. That just tells me that SK members were more skilled, and that a better pick/ban combined with a tailored earlygame strat and bad reactions from SK won YFW this game. Unless they had more strategies prepared against SK it's just very unlikely that they would win in a longer series.
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On March 14 2015 22:27 AlterKot wrote:
OK I calmed down.
6) Losing to SEA is a disgrace. Fuck you SK.
You sure you're OK there mate?
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On March 14 2015 22:27 Sent. wrote:
Why would they force Forgiven to play Corki if he hates him and other adcs were open?
Graves and Lucian were banned and Caitlyn was useless when he played her yesterday. Corki is more like Graves/Lucian than Sivir.
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