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diamond: we just picked random trash and won against this crap team
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
Doublelift's gold hope are getting pale again, for fuck sake.
Even though, should be cool set of games.
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On December 21 2014 05:18 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 05:16 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:09 krndandaman wrote:On December 21 2014 05:04 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 05:03 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:00 nafta wrote:On December 21 2014 04:59 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 04:57 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 04:54 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 04:52 Fildun wrote:
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This is 4.21 right? On 4.21 it's the normal max... Pretty sure E max is better. W: INITIAL HIT DAMAGE 4/6/8/10/12% of target's max health (+3% per 100 ability power) in magic damage AREA OF EFFECT DAMAGE 40/70/100/130/160 (+4/6/8/10/12% total health) E: 60/90/120/150/180 magic damage Pretty sure W max is better. E's cooldown is dramatically reduced with each rank. W gets 4 secs reduced on cd as well.Pls suff.... Oh meh. But I am still not convinced. Her W's auto reset is really slow and requires her to stick to her target. E is so much safer. ??? What does this even mean. You also need to apply a frost stack for the E... it means he knows hes wrong but can't really verbalize that I don't think I am wrong. All I see is Diamond Q in once, lands autoattack component of W and an E, then his target just walks away. It's really an awful spell. How is E max gonna change that? He will still walk away and you'll still not be able to land a second W or E.
Actually, you can very easily E twice when you E max first. Frost lasts 4 seconds, so you can R -> E (E on cooldown) then QW. Q stuns for 1 second, and each tick of W applies Frost. Realistically if you have 6 seconds cooldown on E you can easily apply another E to your intended target.
It's really weird that E can be used a second time so easily now - it used to be very difficult due to the flat 11 seconds cooldown. For a while I thought E was bugged and applying Frost by itself.
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On December 21 2014 05:23 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 05:18 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 05:16 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:09 krndandaman wrote:On December 21 2014 05:04 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 05:03 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:00 nafta wrote:On December 21 2014 04:59 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 04:57 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 04:54 Sufficiency wrote:
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Pretty sure E max is better. W: INITIAL HIT DAMAGE 4/6/8/10/12% of target's max health (+3% per 100 ability power) in magic damage AREA OF EFFECT DAMAGE 40/70/100/130/160 (+4/6/8/10/12% total health) E: 60/90/120/150/180 magic damage Pretty sure W max is better. E's cooldown is dramatically reduced with each rank. W gets 4 secs reduced on cd as well.Pls suff.... Oh meh. But I am still not convinced. Her W's auto reset is really slow and requires her to stick to her target. E is so much safer. ??? What does this even mean. You also need to apply a frost stack for the E... it means he knows hes wrong but can't really verbalize that I don't think I am wrong. All I see is Diamond Q in once, lands autoattack component of W and an E, then his target just walks away. It's really an awful spell. How is E max gonna change that? He will still walk away and you'll still not be able to land a second W or E. Actually, you can very easily E twice when you E max first. Frost lasts 4 seconds, so you can R -> E (E on cooldown) then QW. Q stuns for 1 second, and each tick of W applies Frost. Realistically if you have 6 seconds cooldown on E you can easily apply another E to your intended target. It's really weird that E can be used a second time so easily now - it used to be very difficult due to the flat 11 seconds cooldown. For a while I thought E was bugged and applying Frost by itself.
Except leading out with R in ganks is garbage and when teamfights happen you do have the maxed E. Also if the enemy does have an escape you won't land that frost stack and if he doesn't you won't need it.
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On December 21 2014 05:21 krndandaman wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 05:16 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:09 krndandaman wrote:On December 21 2014 05:04 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 05:03 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:00 nafta wrote:On December 21 2014 04:59 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 04:57 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 04:54 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 04:52 Fildun wrote:
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This is 4.21 right? On 4.21 it's the normal max... Pretty sure E max is better. W: INITIAL HIT DAMAGE 4/6/8/10/12% of target's max health (+3% per 100 ability power) in magic damage AREA OF EFFECT DAMAGE 40/70/100/130/160 (+4/6/8/10/12% total health) E: 60/90/120/150/180 magic damage Pretty sure W max is better. E's cooldown is dramatically reduced with each rank. W gets 4 secs reduced on cd as well.Pls suff.... Oh meh. But I am still not convinced. Her W's auto reset is really slow and requires her to stick to her target. E is so much safer. ??? What does this even mean. You also need to apply a frost stack for the E... it means he knows hes wrong but can't really verbalize that I don't think I am wrong. All I see is Diamond Q in once, lands autoattack component of W and an E, then his target just walks away. It's really an awful spell. If he just wants to clear the jungle then he can go ahead. But going W > E > Q is a bit questionable. The way I see it, Q has to be maxed second, because you desperately need the lower CD on your gapcloser. On choosing W and E, E offers a lot of CC and damage at long range while W requires you to stick to your target. I don't know if you like playing devil's advocate or something because you always seem to support an unpopular opinion that no one else holds. junglers need to max whatever skill helps them clear the jungle or else they'll fall behind in levels and do jack shit. w does just that and maxing e would hinder your clear drastically. whats the point if you're say level 7 with maxed e instead of being level 9 with maxed w? maxing e is dumb. you seem to be the only sejuani that does it since I can't find a single sejuani that maxes e on http://www.probuilds.net/champions/Sejuani
Hmm OK I'll try W maxing first a couple more times then. I still think E maxing is good though. Also I definitely do not agree with maxing Q last - that's just plain stupid.
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On December 21 2014 05:25 Fildun wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 05:23 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:18 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 05:16 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:09 krndandaman wrote:On December 21 2014 05:04 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 05:03 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:00 nafta wrote:On December 21 2014 04:59 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 04:57 Fildun wrote:
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W:
INITIAL HIT DAMAGE
4/6/8/10/12% of target's max health (+3% per 100 ability power) in magic damage
AREA OF EFFECT DAMAGE
40/70/100/130/160 (+4/6/8/10/12% total health)
E:
60/90/120/150/180 magic damage
Pretty sure W max is better. E's cooldown is dramatically reduced with each rank. W gets 4 secs reduced on cd as well.Pls suff.... Oh meh. But I am still not convinced. Her W's auto reset is really slow and requires her to stick to her target. E is so much safer. ??? What does this even mean. You also need to apply a frost stack for the E... it means he knows hes wrong but can't really verbalize that I don't think I am wrong. All I see is Diamond Q in once, lands autoattack component of W and an E, then his target just walks away. It's really an awful spell. How is E max gonna change that? He will still walk away and you'll still not be able to land a second W or E. Actually, you can very easily E twice when you E max first. Frost lasts 4 seconds, so you can R -> E (E on cooldown) then QW. Q stuns for 1 second, and each tick of W applies Frost. Realistically if you have 6 seconds cooldown on E you can easily apply another E to your intended target. It's really weird that E can be used a second time so easily now - it used to be very difficult due to the flat 11 seconds cooldown. For a while I thought E was bugged and applying Frost by itself. Except leading out with R in ganks is garbage and when teamfights happen you do have the maxed E. Also if the enemy does have an escape you won't land that frost stack and if he doesn't you won't need it.
Nothing will happen if you miss your Q regardless.
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On December 21 2014 05:29 Sufficiency wrote:Show nested quote +On December 21 2014 05:25 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 05:23 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:18 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 05:16 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:09 krndandaman wrote:On December 21 2014 05:04 Fildun wrote:On December 21 2014 05:03 Sufficiency wrote:On December 21 2014 05:00 nafta wrote:On December 21 2014 04:59 Sufficiency wrote:
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E's cooldown is dramatically reduced with each rank. W gets 4 secs reduced on cd as well.Pls suff.... Oh meh. But I am still not convinced. Her W's auto reset is really slow and requires her to stick to her target. E is so much safer. ??? What does this even mean. You also need to apply a frost stack for the E... it means he knows hes wrong but can't really verbalize that I don't think I am wrong. All I see is Diamond Q in once, lands autoattack component of W and an E, then his target just walks away. It's really an awful spell. How is E max gonna change that? He will still walk away and you'll still not be able to land a second W or E. Actually, you can very easily E twice when you E max first. Frost lasts 4 seconds, so you can R -> E (E on cooldown) then QW. Q stuns for 1 second, and each tick of W applies Frost. Realistically if you have 6 seconds cooldown on E you can easily apply another E to your intended target. It's really weird that E can be used a second time so easily now - it used to be very difficult due to the flat 11 seconds cooldown. For a while I thought E was bugged and applying Frost by itself. Except leading out with R in ganks is garbage and when teamfights happen you do have the maxed E. Also if the enemy does have an escape you won't land that frost stack and if he doesn't you won't need it. Nothing will happen if you miss your Q regardless.
Ofcourse you have to hit your Q, that's the point of the entire champion...
Pls
Well unless they flash it, in which case you R-E and still catch up to them.
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Btw Sufficiency, I think W => E has been preferable on Sejuani for awhile actually. It feels much smoother than the alternatives imo.
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who will win
Poll: who will win?CLG (6) 67% gambit 0.2 (3) 33% 9 total votes Your vote: who will win? (Vote): gambit 0.2
(Vote): CLG
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Head says clg, especially when rush hour gets a bully lane. Edward and Pinoy looked rather weak yesterday. Hope Diamond can show more Sejuani or Zac though!
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The land of freedom23126 Posts
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Head says CLG but heart wants Gambit to win because it will just be really funny if Doublelift can't even win this shit IEM after taking out the only good team at the event.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
Go Gambit for the upset !!!!!!!
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On December 22 2014 00:40 Numy wrote:
Head says CLG but heart wants Gambit to win because it will just be really funny if Doublelift can't even win this shit IEM after taking out the only good team at the event.
but TSM proved us no.1 NA cant beat yettobeinLCS team
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Damn rooting against CLG would be easier if Zion wouldn't be in it.
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Bearded Elder29903 Posts
On December 22 2014 00:50 TitusVI wrote:
Damn rooting against CLG would be easier if Zion wouldn't be in it.
THIS. I love Zion too <3
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This carmak is such a pseudo sensible interviewer.
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They wouldnt at all be attempting to fill some time here would they? Talk to me about sailing.
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EPT
